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Smash: Season 1 Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 17 2012, 04:45 PM (5,027 Views)
Tom


Fascinating commentary on this show: http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_air/2012/02/the-real-reason-nbcs-smash-is-sinking.html
Has to do with why we don't care about the producers' lives and how the show should be centered on Karen and Ivy -- truly centered on them.
Edited by Tom, Feb 21 2012, 11:56 PM.
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Catching up right now...

O-M-G. The assistant WASN'T gay. Didn't see that coming!
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Tom
Feb 21 2012, 11:54 PM
Fascinating commentary on this show: http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_air/2012/02/the-real-reason-nbcs-smash-is-sinking.html
Has to do with why we don't care about the producers' lives and how the show should be centered on Karen and Ivy -- truly centered on them.
I read the article and personally I like the more behind the scenes stuff in creating the musical. I would actually enjoy seeing the whole process and the end of the show being the actual production in the final product. But I am still finding it hard to see how they are going to go beyond a season and/or once the show is done.
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cubsgirl
Feb 22 2012, 10:06 PM
Tom
Feb 21 2012, 11:54 PM
Fascinating commentary on this show: http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_air/2012/02/the-real-reason-nbcs-smash-is-sinking.html
Has to do with why we don't care about the producers' lives and how the show should be centered on Karen and Ivy -- truly centered on them.
I read the article and personally I like the more behind the scenes stuff in creating the musical. I would actually enjoy seeing the whole process and the end of the show being the actual production in the final product. But I am still finding it hard to see how they are going to go beyond a season and/or once the show is done.
If you mean logistically, it is possible. As they said on the show, getting a theatrical production actually onto stage can take five years. :)
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Enjoyed Mondays show,hated that outfit they had Debra Messing in during the party.
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Just watching Monday's episode right now. Loved the intervention by the back-up dancers.
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I just got caught up on the latest episodes. This show has really improved after its slow start.

Perhaps I missed it, but did Ivy actually sleep with Nick Jonas' character? It seemed implied, but I can't say for sure.
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Season 1 Episode 6 ''Chemistry'' Promo

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Season 1 Episode 7 ''The Workshop'' Promo

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^ My face watching DAYS

Hmm caught this episode last night...not bad...certainly improved over the premiere.
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Megan Hilty's cover of Jessie J's "Who you are" and Katherine McPhee's cover of Florence's "shake it out" were something really quite special.

Each episode gets better than the last. I'm glad I stuck it out the first few episodes without quitting.
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Starting to lose interest in this show. Getting tired of every week some reason for some type of contemporary song that loosely fits the storyline but just seems to be there to sell and iTunes track. I think I could enjoy those moments more if I wasn't thinking "Oh there is an iTunes track".

Also I get the idea of Ellis being the bad guy, but I am so tired of him always being around getting the dirt on everyone and everything.
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I think this show gets better each episode.
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Bad review from Variety. http://weblogs.variety.com/bltv/2012/03/after-strong-first-act-smash-on-wobbly-legs.html

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After Its Strong First Act, 'Smash' on Wobbly Legs

By: Brian Lowry
Published: Sun, March 18, 2012, 8:39 AM
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NBC's "Smash" is turning into a show about artists who make all the wrong choices.

Unfortunately, that refers not to the characters so much as the program's show runners.

Like a lot of critics, I was with the musical drama at the beginning, after viewing four episodes. But the Smash-aboutthree subsequent hours -- including the one airing this Monday, which NBC made available for review -- have become a cautionary tale about how quickly a promising program, even one about treading the boards, can come close to skidding off the rails.

Mostly, "Smash" has undermined itself by writing toward the show's big-name stars and losing sight of what made its relative unknowns -- the two characters vying for the role of Marilyn Monroe in the fictional musical, played by Katharine McPhee and Megan Hilty -- so appealing.

A subplot involving Debra Messing, the writer dallying with an ex-flame/co-star, has been simply terrible from the get-go. And I've grown a little tired of watching Anjelica Huston's producer throw drinks in her ex-husband's face. Cute the first time. Tiresome thereafter.

As for the young women, their longing and hunger -- and not inconsiderable talent -- gave the show its heart. But having an overt pettiness creep into the relationship between them has made Hilty's character much less sympathetic, when the first couple of installments were propelled by the fact the show managed to have you rooting for both.

Monday's episode is a good example of how uneven the show has become, with some nice moments courtesy of Jack Davenport as the imperious director and a couple of strong musical numbers, but mostly hackneyed dialogue and subplots.

Ratings-wise, "Smash" has stabilized in tolerable territory, although much of that stems from the power of its "The Voice" lead-in. Yet all these missteps ought to be a source of chagrin and concern at NBC, which has invested so much -- perhaps more emotionally than financially -- in the series. Even if it comes back, "Smash" -- at its core a serial with a glamorous, high-tension setting -- is going to need to do some serious soul-searching to shore up its soap-opera elements or risk looking unworthy of the spotlight.

Thanks to its arsenal of talent, "Smash" can still regain its footing, and takes at least one step in that direction (I'll skip any spoilers) on Monday. Still, the show's rather abrupt slide is one reason I tend to incorporate disclaimers into reviews of serialized fare. Programs that grab you initially can easily veer off course, especially when the premise is ambitious.

Barring that, the show might demonstrate what many a musical has in the past: Even with all the catchy tunes you could ever want, if it's a weak book, that usually makes for a very long evening -- and alas, not often a long run.

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Posted: Sun, March 18, 2012, 8:39 AM

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I think this reviewer hasn't watched beyond epsiode 4. Eileen hasn't thrown a drink in her husband's face for at least 3 episodes for example.
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I don't listen to critics,ever.
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Mar 20 2012, 03:23 PM
I don't listen to critics,ever.
Thats wise. I do pay attention to metacritic though, which averages all the critics into one review rating.
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Smash has been renewed for a second season.
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I got caught up on this show over the last few days. It's pretty good. Anjelica Huston, Debra Messing and Megan Hilty are fabulous in their roles. Katharine McPhee is good as well. The dialogue is a little clunky at times and some of the song choices are odd, but overall it's a pretty good show. One thing though... I'm going to need that bitch Ivy to be knocked down a peg or two. As much as I love Megan Hilty, her character makes me want to throw something at the TV.
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Kenny
Mar 28 2012, 10:14 PM
One thing though... I'm going to need that bitch Ivy to be knocked down a peg or two. As much as I love Megan Hilty, her character makes me want to throw something at the TV.
I think the bitchiness stems from her huge insecurity. A lot of people in theatre are like that - always need to be validated by others, told how wonderful their performances are and wonderful they are. And if they don't get it, they lash out - especially at people they feel threatened by. I don't think Ivy needs to be taken down a peg or two, because she is a fragile mess already.

Ellis on the other hand - I hate that fucker and want him to suffer lol.
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Southofsoap
Mar 29 2012, 12:31 PM
Kenny
Mar 28 2012, 10:14 PM
One thing though... I'm going to need that bitch Ivy to be knocked down a peg or two. As much as I love Megan Hilty, her character makes me want to throw something at the TV.
I think the bitchiness stems from her huge insecurity. A lot of people in theatre are like that - always need to be validated by others, told how wonderful their performances are and wonderful they are. And if they don't get it, they lash out - especially at people they feel threatened by.
I hate people like that.

The worst is when they know they're good but they need constant validation anyway. Drives me crazy!
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