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SOD: Rafe and Carrie Grow Closer; 1/31/12
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Topic Started: Jan 19 2012, 03:05 PM (8,804 Views)
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Jan 20 2012, 09:39 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 03:45 PM
I thought this was pretty interesting. - Quote:
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Rafe also doesn’t like seeing this side of Sami’s personality, that she’s being deceitful and lying. It’s a side that he wishes would go away.
Sami is deceitful and lying, that is who she is. That isn't going away, bro. She has been hiding that for the most part while being with him for some time but now that her true (and IMO awesome) colors are starting to re-appear, things are hitting the skids. And at the same time, the qualities he saw in Sami initially he starts to see in Carrie. Coincidence, I think not!! Looks like that good girl routine is coming to an end and Safe might be going in the same direction. :wave: heroine Sami!! Yay! :-)
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Jan 20 2012, 09:45 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 05:17 PM
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- Jan 19 2012, 04:31 PM
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- Jan 19 2012, 04:12 PM
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- Jan 19 2012, 03:12 PM
This is a WTF interview. Since when has Sami been harping on Rafe about working with Carrie? Wasn't it just the other day that Carrie, Rafe, Bo, and Hope were in the Brady Pub talking about how Sami is ok with them working together? Haven't Carrie and Rafe talked about how she is ok with it and they can't believe it? Now, we read she has been harping on Rafe about working with Carrie? I sure must have missed that. I don't ever recall Sami making Rafe feel inadequate because he didn't have a job. Rafe may have felt inadequate, but wasn't Sami telling him it was Ok, that he would find something soon and not to worry about it? Rafe has always been evaluated by Sami? Where did that come from all of a sudden? If anything, Rafe evaluated Sami at the beginning of their relationship. Rafe has known since he beginning that Sami was deceitful. Didn't she hide her pregnancy from EJ? Didn't she constantly try to sneak out of the safehouse? Didn't she shoot EJ in the head and cover it up? He didn't seem to have a problem with it then, but now he doesn't like her being deceitful?
I get where all this is heading and why they are doing it, but come on, Mardar, at least make this true to history. None of this makes any sense with the history of the two characters together.
Not only has he known about her lying and scheming, he's lied and schemed right along with her i.e. Grace and later hiding the fact that she shot EJ. MarDar can't write their way out a paper bag.
I just have to laugh at how lame this is. MarDar are going to push it through no matter what the history of Sami and Rafe have shown. Rafe suddenly has reservations about Sami's behavior after we've heard him tell her time and time again that what he likes most about her is her unpredictability? (which has always revolved around her lying) :lol: We've also seen these two covering up all kinds of secrets. He's no angel. I don't get the qualities he first liked in Sami he now sees in Carrie.....Carrie's not scheming to get around him, she's not a damsel in distress, she's not a loving mommy . . . maybe Sami use to giggle more? Or could there have possibly been an ice cube moment in Safe's past we weren't privy too? I love that they are throwing in another Carrie/Rafe hug session . . . nothing like having a partner you can grope every time a case goes your way! Hope Carrie is holding on tight enough to see if the whole package is worth her time. ;) The dance. Need I say more? Oh MarDar :shame: If Rafe is such a stand-up guy but golly-gee conflicted over these feelings then maybe, Mr. Stand-up, it's time to check the want-ads. But, then what's the fun in that? Salem needed a new scumbag and Roving Eye Rafe drooling over his sister-in-law is fitting the bill. I see the dance part of this as VERY old school Carrie & Austin(Corny and vomit inducing)...but I have a feeling I will somehow get a laugh out of it. The best part of watching Days for me are the completely unintentional funnies. I hope Kayla makes a funny face when she witnesses this travesty lol
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Jan 20 2012, 09:46 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 05:22 PM
This isn't Days of our Lives....this is Days of our Lies! Who make up this crap! Rafe has always known what a liar, deceitful woman Sami was since the day he met her! That's what gets him all hot & bothered about her! He loves her for her craziness....it make his blood boil and his temperature rise!!!! Now he thinks that Ms Bland is Ms Wonderful! These writers have invented a new Rafe...and we are supposed to believe it's the same guy who gave Sami a pass for breaking into Lexi's computer to check her medical files! Come on! MarDar is making this up as they go along....what are they smokin'!! Don't insult our intelligence...give us some credit for having some memory for Pete's sake! If they going to change Rafe's personality, give us a reason....relapse of the memory erasing, whatever! A guy just doesn't turn off his loving passion for his hot wife for nothing...especially Mr. Straight Arrow Hernandez... make this believable!!!!! :drunk: :frustration: But he's always lectured Sami on her deeds and reprimanded her. Maybe he's sick of all her shit. Who wouldn't be?
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Lil
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Jan 20 2012, 09:47 AM
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- Aliaron
- Jan 19 2012, 05:39 PM
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- Jan 19 2012, 04:31 PM
- magicsteacher
- Jan 19 2012, 04:12 PM
- Vicky4Mimi
- Jan 19 2012, 03:12 PM
This is a WTF interview. Since when has Sami been harping on Rafe about working with Carrie? Wasn't it just the other day that Carrie, Rafe, Bo, and Hope were in the Brady Pub talking about how Sami is ok with them working together? Haven't Carrie and Rafe talked about how she is ok with it and they can't believe it? Now, we read she has been harping on Rafe about working with Carrie? I sure must have missed that. I don't ever recall Sami making Rafe feel inadequate because he didn't have a job. Rafe may have felt inadequate, but wasn't Sami telling him it was Ok, that he would find something soon and not to worry about it? Rafe has always been evaluated by Sami? Where did that come from all of a sudden? If anything, Rafe evaluated Sami at the beginning of their relationship. Rafe has known since he beginning that Sami was deceitful. Didn't she hide her pregnancy from EJ? Didn't she constantly try to sneak out of the safehouse? Didn't she shoot EJ in the head and cover it up? He didn't seem to have a problem with it then, but now he doesn't like her being deceitful?
I get where all this is heading and why they are doing it, but come on, Mardar, at least make this true to history. None of this makes any sense with the history of the two characters together.
Not only has he known about her lying and scheming, he's lied and schemed right along with her i.e. Grace and later hiding the fact that she shot EJ. MarDar can't write their way out a paper bag.
That was him protecting Sami. Rafe has always been under the delusion that Sami only does bad things when she's victimized. To be fair, Everything she's did to Ej has been a retaliation of some sort of victimization so I could understand him thinking that. But this is the first time he is seeing Sami scheme just to do it. Because its fun. The best reason, in my book, that soaps would show scheming. To bad her scheming partner is Madison. Let's hope when Lucas returns they join together to be the scheme team again. I've missed it. you said it. Cheers!
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Jan 20 2012, 09:52 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 07:12 PM
Based on what others have said, I think Kayla was supposed to return in February but they couldn't use Peggy McCay as Caroline so they just used Kayla in her place. I'm hoping that is the case or who cares?
I don't mind the way they are bringing Carrie and Rafe together. This is a soap. It's all about contrivances and crap like this. My issue with it is that I don't like where they seem to be going with Rafe. I have a feeling they are going to have Carrie and Rafe cheat before Sami's lies come out just so she isn't the only one who screwed up and I don't like that. I am hopeful that it won't happen until after the reveal too. Not only because it will make Sami look better but because I don't see Rafe or Carrie cheating that quickly. I think there will be some struggle with their feelings for each other and some build up. At least I hope so.
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Jan 20 2012, 09:59 AM
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- magicsteacher
- Jan 19 2012, 09:46 PM
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Based on what others have said, I think Kayla was supposed to return in February but they couldn't use Peggy McCay as Caroline so they just used Kayla in her place. I'm hoping that is the case or who cares?
I don't mind the way they are bringing Carrie and Rafe together. This is a soap. It's all about contrivances and crap like this. My issue with it is that I don't like where they seem to be going with Rafe. I have a feeling they are going to have Carrie and Rafe cheat before Sami's lies come out just so she isn't the only one who screwed up and I don't like that.
I don't like what they are doing to the character of Rafe either. Aside from the fact that what was said in this interview doesn't match with what we are seeing on our screens, his character change is what bothers me the most. It's not that people don't change, but not on a dime like they are having Rafe do. Then again maybe this is to lead us into a backstory on Rafe or they are going to blame this behavior change on what the Dimeras did to him. At first I didn't think he would cheat with Carrie before the reveal, then I was on the fence about it, but now, like you, I think they will cheat before Rafe knows what Sami did with EJ. That is one of the only ways they can make what Sami did not seem so bad, and level the playing field with them. It may make her breathe a sigh of relief on some goofy level and figure when he does find out, she can throw this back in his face. I think what they do with this couple is totally up in the air at this point. I know Rafe and Safe haters are sure that this is the end of Safe, but I don't think that's necessarily true at all. Rafe has never had a solid backstory! Shit, wasn't he at first an orphan now he's got like a million brothers and sisters and a family tamale recipe? Please. And if it turns out he only cheats because of what the Dimeras did to him that would be a total copout. All the females on this show have no trouble hopping from bed to bed (or to the DiMera sofa as it were) why not let some of the men, especially one who has never been paired with ANYONE ELSE get some poon tang.
Down with the Beast dammit!!!!!!
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Jan 20 2012, 10:03 AM
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and don't forget the vow renewal...she fucked the man she hated BEFORE the renewal of vows to her husband. That shit's important you know. :sarcasm:
And Rafe's going to screw his SIL after his renewal of vows to his wife. Yeah, I guess we are supposed to believe that none of that was important to Rafe at all, right? :shame: :shame:
You know some of this stuff feels like it was plugged in last minute, for example in any other soap you would have about 2 or 3 months of featuring Carrie and Austin showing this temptation, a slow build, but it appears they are going at this fast lighting speed. Last week we get hot office, ice cubes and bare torsos. This week we get more eying and getting even more closer and developing feelings during this dance. By the following week they will probably kiss and then by the second week of February they will fall into each others arms. During JER we would get months and months of slow build to an affair, we would get the first kiss after what seemed like months of near miss kisses and fantasies about one another, then one of the two or both wouldn't stop thinking about the kisses and flashing back to them and then the affair would happen. Then the guilt and maybe if it progressed from a ONS then it would happen again. Even Dan and Chloe's affair had a slower better written buildup than this and I'm talking about one of the worse contrived messes I ever saw. I could see them throwing this in last minute after they realized that Sami's character's popularity was at an all time low and having Rafe do this would at least make her look a bit better. I don't know it just seems to be happening way too fast, they could have began these feelings and hotness between Rafe and CArrie (and I mean what we are seeing now)way back around November and built it up from there. They haven't cheated yet. the bare torsos was clearly supposed to be corny and funny and porny (I hope so anyway lol) All they've done is giggle flirt and hug so I'm still hopeful they'll darg it until after the reveal so Sami's life can go even more to shit and even though I hate him, Rafe can still walk away the good, faithful guy. Just to twist the knife lol
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Jan 20 2012, 10:05 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 10:15 PM
:hail: Rafe, go on and work that thang. U have absolutely no reason to be faithful to Sami. We'll just chalk it up to a moment of lunacy. Damn that air-conditioning for breaking down! They wouldn't be potentially succumbing to deadairconditioningsex if the units hadn't burned out in the AC. Where's the air when they needed it? It's going make them do something CRAZY. Like have sex. Of course, Rafe had to be 'bad' and do something so Sami can't bear the brunt of her actions. Like that hasn't happened before. Been going on for years now. But, I like Carrie/Rafe. I really do. Yes, some of their matchups and meetings are contrived. But, not too many stellar, edge of your seat moments are happening in Salem anyways. So, I'll take it. GG and CC have a nice chemistry that needs exploring. LMFAO!!!
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Jan 20 2012, 10:17 AM
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- Jan 20 2012, 09:46 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 05:22 PM
This isn't Days of our Lives....this is Days of our Lies! Who make up this crap! Rafe has always known what a liar, deceitful woman Sami was since the day he met her! That's what gets him all hot & bothered about her! He loves her for her craziness....it make his blood boil and his temperature rise!!!! Now he thinks that Ms Bland is Ms Wonderful! These writers have invented a new Rafe...and we are supposed to believe it's the same guy who gave Sami a pass for breaking into Lexi's computer to check her medical files! Come on! MarDar is making this up as they go along....what are they smokin'!! Don't insult our intelligence...give us some credit for having some memory for Pete's sake! If they going to change Rafe's personality, give us a reason....relapse of the memory erasing, whatever! A guy just doesn't turn off his loving passion for his hot wife for nothing...especially Mr. Straight Arrow Hernandez... make this believable!!!!! :drunk: :frustration:
But he's always lectured Sami on her deeds and reprimanded her. Maybe he's sick of all her shit. Who wouldn't be? Rafe gave up on lecturing Sami ions ago. In fact many have accused him of being her enabler because he swallows the crap and simply rolls with punches trying to come up with the best possible way to cover her ass after she screws up, i.e. making threats to Nicole when she threatened to press charges after the fight at the hospital or simply being grateful that she didn't try and enter DiMasion when she went to see Johnny at Christmas time.
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Jan 20 2012, 11:02 AM
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And Rafe's going to screw his SIL after his renewal of vows to his wife. Yeah, I guess we are supposed to believe that none of that was important to Rafe at all, right? :shame: :shame:
You know some of this stuff feels like it was plugged in last minute, for example in any other soap you would have about 2 or 3 months of featuring Carrie and Austin showing this temptation, a slow build, but it appears they are going at this fast lighting speed. Last week we get hot office, ice cubes and bare torsos. This week we get more eying and getting even more closer and developing feelings during this dance. By the following week they will probably kiss and then by the second week of February they will fall into each others arms. During JER we would get months and months of slow build to an affair, we would get the first kiss after what seemed like months of near miss kisses and fantasies about one another, then one of the two or both wouldn't stop thinking about the kisses and flashing back to them and then the affair would happen. Then the guilt and maybe if it progressed from a ONS then it would happen again. Even Dan and Chloe's affair had a slower better written buildup than this and I'm talking about one of the worse contrived messes I ever saw. I could see them throwing this in last minute after they realized that Sami's character's popularity was at an all time low and having Rafe do this would at least make her look a bit better. I don't know it just seems to be happening way too fast, they could have began these feelings and hotness between Rafe and CArrie (and I mean what we are seeing now)way back around November and built it up from there.
They haven't cheated yet. the bare torsos was clearly supposed to be corny and funny and porny (I hope so anyway lol) All they've done is giggle flirt and hug so I'm still hopeful they'll darg it until after the reveal so Sami's life can go even more to shit and even though I hate him, Rafe can still walk away the good, faithful guy. Just to twist the knife lol That's exactly how I was hoping these writers would write this, but it seems to me that they are hell-bent on destroying Rafe's character right along with Sami's, and all to make her not look so bad.
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Jan 20 2012, 11:07 AM
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Ehh...gotta see how it plays out I guess.
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Jan 20 2012, 11:19 AM
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- Jan 19 2012, 09:55 PM
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Based on what others have said, I think Kayla was supposed to return in February but they couldn't use Peggy McCay as Caroline so they just used Kayla in her place. I'm hoping that is the case or who cares?
I don't mind the way they are bringing Carrie and Rafe together. This is a soap. It's all about contrivances and crap like this. My issue with it is that I don't like where they seem to be going with Rafe. I have a feeling they are going to have Carrie and Rafe cheat before Sami's lies come out just so she isn't the only one who screwed up and I don't like that.
I don't like what they are doing to the character of Rafe either. Aside from the fact that what was said in this interview doesn't match with what we are seeing on our screens, his character change is what bothers me the most. It's not that people don't change, but not on a dime like they are having Rafe do. Then again maybe this is to lead us into a backstory on Rafe or they are going to blame this behavior change on what the Dimeras did to him. At first I didn't think he would cheat with Carrie before the reveal, then I was on the fence about it, but now, like you, I think they will cheat before Rafe knows what Sami did with EJ. That is one of the only ways they can make what Sami did not seem so bad, and level the playing field with them. It may make her breathe a sigh of relief on some goofy level and figure when he does find out, she can throw this back in his face. I think what they do with this couple is totally up in the air at this point. I know Rafe and Safe haters are sure that this is the end of Safe, but I don't think that's necessarily true at all.
On your last sentence, I might not like Safe but I've never believed they were truly over, especially when we started getting the spoilers that Carrie and RAfe would be growing closer and closer. I always said that they wouldn't let Sami take the complete fall for the angrynotsodeadbabysex without having Rafe do something equally as offensive in Sami's eyes. Here it is.....and I do think if this happens before the Ejami sex reveal then you might see Rafe keep his secret and that comes out later on. I think someone here mentioned a while ago that they thought it would be a quad Lucas/Sami/Rafe/Carrie and I agree...with Austin and Abby pretty much in their own little orbit and PM sounding very 'down' about Carrie and Austin, my take is that they are over because she cheats on him and he finds out. I believe we may start out with a Lucas/Sami/Rafe/Carrie quad, but at some point, I think one of the parties will drop off, and it will become another predictable triangle. Either Carrie will go back to Austin, and it becomes a Lucas/Sami/Rafe triangle, or Lucas finds someone else, and it becomes a Carrie/Rafe/Sami triangle. I am going with the first option b/c I don't believe Caustin are done. Carrie always ends up going back to Austin after her little romps with other men, and after listening to that interview with PM, I didn't get the impression that Caustin are done for good. I think they are over for awhile b/c she cheats with Rafe, and they will be together, but permanently, I don't think so. Plus CC did give an interview awhile back where she said she wouldn't mind if Carrie and Austin split up for awhile, but not for good.
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Jan 20 2012, 12:00 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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I think it comes down to what the long term plan is for Cafe - both as a pairing and individual characters. If they wind up having them cheat before finding out about the EJami sex romp then I think it's clear they're rushing through this in order to level the playing field between Safe and take some of the burden of blame/guilt off of Sami. However, if they don't have them do the deed until after the EJami sex reveal it could be that they are anticipating a more long term pairing for them and setting them up to be a lasting couple. Whehter that would be on or off screen is likely up in the air.
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Jan 20 2012, 02:27 PM
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I'm all for Cafe doing it AFTER the SCANDAL reveal. I'd rather Rafe stay faithful and in character than lose his integrity (yet again) and cheat with Sami's playful, daiquiri making sister.
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Jan 20 2012, 04:42 PM
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Rafe and Carrie have no appeal to me. They can't even get beyond cringe inducing in their beginning stage build-up. The chemistry is forced, every situation is forced and they just come off looking foolish together. Let's just get them to the sex moment they were put together for in the first place and be done with it.
Oh damn, what am I thinking. MarDar love to prolong viewer misery. Carrie will probably end up pregnant next to extend the drama. :sleep: Or instead of saddling us with this dullsville couple MarDar could insert one of their famous twists and have seducing Rafe Carrie's plan all along as payback to her sister. They need to do something to break up the monotonous predictability because Rafe and Carrie as a couple are so humdrum.
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Jan 20 2012, 09:03 PM
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I finally saw these scenes and was surprised to get about half way through without laughing or rolling my eyes (it was all over when Carrie started sucking a pen and admiring Rafe's ass...and the montage....Jesus wept :shame: ) My Days related standards are low enough to consider this a success. So, go ahead and bring on cafe. Because, hey, it could be worse.
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Jan 21 2012, 01:02 AM
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BARF BARF Days is once again Ruining my fav couple for this forced no chemistry couple. If it wasn't for Lucas coming back I'd be tuning out totally. I slowly beginning to not care anymore
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Jan 21 2012, 04:17 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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:blah: :blah: about Sami.
CAFE......... :D :D :D ! they need to hit the sheets already.
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am103
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Jan 21 2012, 06:30 PM
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- LuvingLumi
- Jan 19 2012, 09:50 PM
One thing that bugs me about Sami's kids' birthdays is that when you think about it, Syd has had 2 birthdays and she's what 3 years old? But the twins....nahhhh, we can't have that and that would be made of all kinds of awesome just the players involved would be fabulous....hint MarDar, hint! Could you imagine, Sami, Lucas, Will, Ej, Nicole, Kate, Stefano, Marlena and John in the room with the twins......Sydney isn't more special than any of the other kids Sami has....spread the wealth. I totally agree! I saw this pattern forever ago between Marlena's children and Sami's youngest kids: Sydney will grow up to be the special spoiled brat (see: Sami Brady), Johnny will grow up and move to Colorado so he can be mentioned by his family once a year if he's lucky (see: Eric Brady), and Allie will grow up to be the nice one, all the while knowing that her sister Sydney is a crazy scheming attention-seeking bed-hopping bitch (see: Belle Black). :D
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Jan 21 2012, 06:38 PM
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"Who's Allie?"
--Sami Hernandez
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