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SOD: Rafe and Carrie Grow Closer; 1/31/12
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Topic Started: Jan 19 2012, 03:05 PM (8,800 Views)
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Tammy101
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Jan 23 2012, 09:47 PM
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A Safe - Lumi triangle? Kill me now.
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magicsteacher
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Jan 23 2012, 10:05 PM
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- JamesScott_19
- Jan 23 2012, 09:40 PM
- magicsteacher
- Jan 23 2012, 04:14 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jan 23 2012, 11:29 AM
- daisy132
- Jan 22 2012, 10:00 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
NO ONE and that includes ALL of Sami's MEN including EJ, has had a story outside of Sami. When we all realize that if the guy we like is in a relationship with Sami and he just happens to move away from her then he will likely end up in one of two places. Cheating on her and leaving town (Brandon and maybe Rafe soon), or being the loser in love (Lucas, EJ), never to succeed with another woman again because if you have a love story with Sami, then for some reason no other woman can ever love you but her, lol. Realistically, I would sit through a Safe/Lumi triangle, even if it turns out to be boring because let's face it, I've watched Ejami/Safe, and Ejami/Lumi, so a new storyline would probably draw me in. I don't think I'm the only one that would sit through it either, so maybe that is where they are headed? Maybe not? Who knows, we'll have to wait I guess, but of all of Sami's men the one who appears to have the ability to break away from the usual, (cheater/loser in love) mode is Ej, solely because he has a woman who loves him and he apparently loves, so they can break the mold with him perhaps. Oh, and why are we even believing stuff KC is saying? Hasn't he lied over the years, on numerous occassions? They will try what they think will work and if it doesn't work they will try something else. It has nothing to do with what KC wants as I'm sure if it were up to him, or his wife he would have never had Sami cheat on Rafe with EJ, right?
I am with you. I would much rather see a Safe/Lumi triangle than another Ejami/Lumi or Ejami/Safe triangle. At least we haven't seen a Safe/Lumi triangle yet, and since these writers are insisting on writing triangles, at least it's something different.
I disagree I would hate to see a triangle that Safe and Lumi, Rafe needs to move on. Whether that is with Carrie or not, I don`t see why it i such a bad idea for Rafe to move on, just how long is one guy suppose to be attached to the same woman :shame: Not only that but Saimi of all people. Geez let the guy move on for once. My big gripe with this whole storyline isn't Rafe moving on, afterall it is a soap and that's a soap staple, it's the horrible way the entire storyline is being written. We were promised character driven storylines, and we haven't gotten one yet. This is all plot driven and characters are being changed to fit whatever plot Mardar decides to write on any given day. There were so many better ways to have written this whole Carrie/Rafe thing to make it believable; too bad the writers chose sleazy scenes, porn music, and Disney dances to do it.
Just as cheating is a soap staple, so is couples reuniting after a period of being with others. I can see that happening here with a Safe/Lumi triangle.
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daisy132
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Jan 23 2012, 10:42 PM
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- Tammy101
- Jan 23 2012, 09:47 PM
A Safe - Lumi triangle? Kill me now. That's what I feel. Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Exciting -_-
Edited by daisy132, Jan 23 2012, 10:42 PM.
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lysie
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Jan 23 2012, 11:19 PM
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- daisy132
- Jan 23 2012, 10:42 PM
- Tammy101
- Jan 23 2012, 09:47 PM
A Safe - Lumi triangle? Kill me now.
That's what I feel. Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Exciting -_- Sigh. I'm sitting on such a good joke, and I just can't make myself type it. Anyone else?
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LuvingLumi
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Jan 24 2012, 08:55 AM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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- daisy132
- Jan 22 2012, 08:35 PM
I don't really see the need for Cafe at all, other than to write in Rafe's exit. He's been hired/created to replace Lucas, and now the original is back. He's been likened to Austin too in some of the interviews, but the original is back also. The super duper dynamic duo (Bo and Hope) are back together on the force as the lead investigators of Salem's PD. There simply isn't any purpose for Rafe on the canvas now. If Austin gets killed off, then I can see Rafe leaving to Switzerland with Carrie.
Now if they'll start a triangle between Safe and Lumi, I would think most people would find it boring. Not to mention that more than likely, Rafe would win - not only because KC (or his wife as rumor has it) has an unhealty obsession with GG, but realistically Sami would have outgrown Lucas whom she's known and has had an on and off relationship since she was a teenager. In which case we could end up with Safe, and possibly Lucas and Carrie, since Sami has always been Lucas' second choice, and Carrie "the one" he always wanted. None of these scenarious would make ME happy, anyways.
If I had no couple preferences at all, and I had to choose between watching a story that unfolded in 2007/08 or another one that has been in play since early 2009 and one that I've never seen before, I would choose the one I've never seen before, simple because....well I've never seen it before. Ejami/Safe and Ejami/Lumi have had a try, so I don't see why it's so unforeseen for these writers to try Lumi/Safe.
I also don't think that Sami has outgrown Lucas at all. Usually those kinds of relationships are the ones that last. It's a soap, so they have their issues and Lumi has always had trust issues. Look what's happening now with this Will shooting Ej story, their trust issues are in play again and Lucas isn't even back yet. The story writes itself. But that makes for their angst, the drama in their story, the hurdle they need to jump. At the very least they have a lot in common, they are very similar human beings. Actually, I can say with absolutely certainty that looking back at Sami, her relationship with Lucas is the ONLY relationship she's had that actually made HER GROW POSITIVELY as a character. She thought about others over herself for ONCE in her life she decided to do purely unselfish things and that was good for her character and she was still very much Sami. Since then she's regressed to a point that her character needs a MAJOR repair job to make her viable again with ANYONE.
On bolded, I'm actually surprised you mentioned that if they go with a Lumi/Safe triangle that Safe will likely end up together and Lucas will end up with Carrie....seriously? Carcas? at the very least, Lucas and Sami showed true love for one another, they chose one another above all others at one point in their lives. No one forced Sami to marry Lucas, no one blackmailed Lucas to marry Sami. Even in 2006 when Lucas finally got a chance to be with Carrie and Sami got her chance to be with Austin, the big story was how Lumi couldn't stop thinking about one another. They finally got who they wanted and guess what? They weren't happy, because they realized that they loved one another and no one could stop that. THAT was the story. Carrie was depicted to be in love with Austin even if she had her issues with infidelity at times, but I'd say the biggest eye opener in this statement is that if Sami and Lucas don't end up together because Lucas always chose Carrie first (which in fact wasn't always true BTW), then I would say that Ej ends up alone, because Nicole was his second choice and Sami always chooses him when every guy she actually wanted wasn't available, there was Austin first, then Lucas, then Rafe, it appears she'd rather go through every man in Salem, than end up with EJ.
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Partnersincrime
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Jan 24 2012, 01:00 PM
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- daisy132
- Jan 23 2012, 10:42 PM
- Tammy101
- Jan 23 2012, 09:47 PM
A Safe - Lumi triangle? Kill me now.
That's what I feel. Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Exciting -_- this i felt when show shove in my throat rafe/sami/ej triangle which worst thing ever because they both sucks if i surrived this as person that can not stand safe and loathe ej and sami together i sure you be able to surrived if it will be lucas/sami/rafe triangle
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jtsahottie
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Jan 24 2012, 11:22 PM
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If I woke from a coma and Channing Tatum told me he was my husband... I'd Believe Him!
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- LuvingLumi
- Jan 24 2012, 08:55 AM
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- Jan 22 2012, 08:35 PM
I don't really see the need for Cafe at all, other than to write in Rafe's exit. He's been hired/created to replace Lucas, and now the original is back. He's been likened to Austin too in some of the interviews, but the original is back also. The super duper dynamic duo (Bo and Hope) are back together on the force as the lead investigators of Salem's PD. There simply isn't any purpose for Rafe on the canvas now. If Austin gets killed off, then I can see Rafe leaving to Switzerland with Carrie.
Now if they'll start a triangle between Safe and Lumi, I would think most people would find it boring. Not to mention that more than likely, Rafe would win - not only because KC (or his wife as rumor has it) has an unhealty obsession with GG, but realistically Sami would have outgrown Lucas whom she's known and has had an on and off relationship since she was a teenager. In which case we could end up with Safe, and possibly Lucas and Carrie, since Sami has always been Lucas' second choice, and Carrie "the one" he always wanted. None of these scenarious would make ME happy, anyways.
If I had no couple preferences at all, and I had to choose between watching a story that unfolded in 2007/08 or another one that has been in play since early 2009 and one that I've never seen before, I would choose the one I've never seen before, simple because....well I've never seen it before. Ejami/Safe and Ejami/Lumi have had a try, so I don't see why it's so unforeseen for these writers to try Lumi/Safe. I also don't think that Sami has outgrown Lucas at all. Usually those kinds of relationships are the ones that last. It's a soap, so they have their issues and Lumi has always had trust issues. Look what's happening now with this Will shooting Ej story, their trust issues are in play again and Lucas isn't even back yet. The story writes itself. But that makes for their angst, the drama in their story, the hurdle they need to jump. At the very least they have a lot in common, they are very similar human beings. Actually, I can say with absolutely certainty that looking back at Sami, her relationship with Lucas is the ONLY relationship she's had that actually made HER GROW POSITIVELY as a character. She thought about others over herself for ONCE in her life she decided to do purely unselfish things and that was good for her character and she was still very much Sami. Since then she's regressed to a point that her character needs a MAJOR repair job to make her viable again with ANYONE. On bolded, I'm actually surprised you mentioned that if they go with a Lumi/Safe triangle that Safe will likely end up together and Lucas will end up with Carrie....seriously? Carcas? at the very least, Lucas and Sami showed true love for one another, they chose one another above all others at one point in their lives. No one forced Sami to marry Lucas, no one blackmailed Lucas to marry Sami. Even in 2006 when Lucas finally got a chance to be with Carrie and Sami got her chance to be with Austin, the big story was how Lumi couldn't stop thinking about one another. They finally got who they wanted and guess what? They weren't happy, because they realized that they loved one another and no one could stop that. THAT was the story. Carrie was depicted to be in love with Austin even if she had her issues with infidelity at times, but I'd say the biggest eye opener in this statement is that if Sami and Lucas don't end up together because Lucas always chose Carrie first (which in fact wasn't always true BTW), then I would say that Ej ends up alone, because Nicole was his second choice and Sami always chooses him when every guy she actually wanted wasn't available, there was Austin first, then Lucas, then Rafe, it appears she'd rather go through every man in Salem, than end up with EJ. So True :applause: Sucks for EJ to always be last choice.. but it is what it is. :biggrin:
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magicsteacher
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Jan 25 2012, 10:09 PM
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- magicsteacher
- Jan 22 2012, 09:16 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep Rafe is a stand up guy who has always been true to the person he loves. Carrie has always been a cheater. It never mattered to her whether or not she was married or who she hurt in the process, and this is no different. Carrie is married and has been hitting on her sister's husband since she came back to Salem and all the while putting on a "miss goody two shoes" act. And when she decides she wants Austin back, she will leave Rafe in the dust just like she's done to everyother man.
No. Carrie does not deserve Rafe.
Truth be told we really don't know this. We know that up to now Rafe has been true to Sami but we have no idea what his past relationships have been like. He may very well have a track record of cheating that just hasn't come to light as yet. :shrug:
Anything is possible however, what we know of Rafe's relationship status post Emily and pre meeting Sami is that he buried himself in his work and that he had vacation days that he did not take while he worked for the FBI. Hilda told Sami that he was single when she wanted to know more about him, So he was from what we know with no one post Emily until Sami came along. Also pre Emily we know that he was involved with that Spanish agent that showed up that Sami was jealous of forget her name. Daisy you are right the car was speeding and they hit a tree. At the time they wrote it to show that Rafe was covering or protecting Ari from something thats what I think the "its happening again" line meant and of course that would be something that would ruin his FBI career which was in the letter Emily's sister wrote but she was crazy. I would also hope that Rafe's past- his childhood or the Emily deal be brought up again as anything would be an improvement over the current direction IMO.
Rafe's character has so much potential since his past has been virtually left untapped. His rocky childhood, why he was covering for Ariana that lead to Emily's death or even past FBI cases coming back to haunt him could enrich his story. Instead MarDar choose to dress him up, Luis style, in costume character so he can play another round of oogly-googly eyes. This stupid plot isn't creating a man viewers could come to know better, it's turning him into a pathetic prop. Sami gets on my nerves, but in this case I would love to see her swing her sister around by her hair and knock Rafe out with a great left hook . . . and not because she is jealous, but for allowing themselves to be turned into such weak caricatures. You are so right-- Rafe's character has so much potential that is now going to be wasted on his being an interloper to break up Carrie and Austin. All the writers have done is taken the part Sami used to play as the interloper in Carrie/Austin's relationship and substituted Rafe. What imaginative writing skills that took, Mardar. :sarcasm:
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