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SOD: Daniel Leaves Jennifer; 1/31/12 issue
Topic Started: Jan 19 2012, 03:10 PM (19,036 Views)
Harcourt
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thrillmar
Jan 19 2012, 05:32 PM
So, Daniel is going on a walkabout???
Exactly!!! :iagree:
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I thought we were going to be spared, but in the final scene, she runs to him and smooches him, telling him to hurry home. Crocodile tears and all.


:huh?: I thought they had broken up? When did they get back together? That was fast.
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annie21
Jan 21 2012, 10:19 AM
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@melissa_reeves

Worked with the whole gang today;) ready to pick up my sweet family at the airport;) http://pic.twitter.com/jqXerkHN


MR tweeted the picture in Dreamer's avatar on Jan. 6th. I did not get the impression that it was a picture of Jennifer. It's most likely a shot of Missy either on her way to the airport or at the airport. At the time, everyone commented on how different/better/younger she looked than she normally looks on the show. That's because this isn't Jennifer.


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@melissa_reeves

Love our hair dept;) patrick did this beautiful style today;) they are so good to us;)! Blessed!! http://pic.twitter.com/EviIi9YX


This is the pic she tweeted back on Nov. 7th. It was taken in her dressing room. And she tweeted that she had a big day of shooting the next day with "half of Salem."

I understand what your saying and it makes sense. MR is definitely sporting this hairdo on Mon. Jan. 23rd epi.
I wonder if her scenes with half of Salem is in relation to Sydney's birthday party this week?
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

I did not read the article, I am just glad that he left her. :biggrin:
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doxiefollies


I have been a fan of Days since 1976. Jack & Jennifer as a couple has NEVER been my favorite. The character Jack is so goofy and immature, what mature woman could ever find him appealing, I have always found him annoying and frustrating, he's like having another child, instead of a husband or partner....Jennifer is like a mother for Jack, instead of a wife, I find that so unappealing. At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him. I'm for Jennifer being with anyone except Jack. Watching Jack & Jennifer together is like nails scratching across a chalkboard...just make it stop! :frustration:
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doxiefollies
Jan 21 2012, 09:38 PM
I have been a fan of Days since 1976. Jack & Jennifer as a couple has NEVER been my favorite. The character Jack is so goofy and immature, what mature woman could ever find him appealing, I have always found him annoying and frustrating, he's like having another child, instead of a husband or partner....Jennifer is like a mother for Jack, instead of a wife, I find that so unappealing. At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him. I'm for Jennifer being with anyone except Jack. Watching Jack & Jennifer together is like nails scratching across a chalkboard...just make it stop! :frustration:
I respect your opinion but wholeheartedly disagree with it.

She never HAD to mother Jack, she chose to. He had his moments of immaturity but for the most part, he was the most mature male on canvas at the time they first fell in love. And J&J were equals in their relationship when it first started which is why they worked. Their back and forth sparring sessions were some of the most fun things to watch on this show, the fact that they've taken this aspect of their relationship away is the most frustrating. In the past whenever Jennifer had a snarky comment, Jack was allowed to fire back....it's the writers who've taken that away from them. This couple works best when each is allowed their snarky moments and the other is allowed to respond in like.

Daniel and Jennifer actually ARE equals....that's not a good thing. Currently both are vapid, whining, unstable babies who want to cut and run the minute something happens they don't like. The best part of Jennifer used to be that she saw all the bad things about Jack and loved him not only in spite of them, but in some ways BECAUSE of them. It's sad that the writers have also taken that aspect of their relationship away.
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doxiefollies
Jan 21 2012, 09:38 PM
At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him.
But she does have to grovel, cry and beg him not to leave her because he has the unfortunate habit of dumping her every other week.
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doxiefollies
Jan 21 2012, 09:38 PM
I have been a fan of Days since 1976. Jack & Jennifer as a couple has NEVER been my favorite. The character Jack is so goofy and immature, what mature woman could ever find him appealing, I have always found him annoying and frustrating, he's like having another child, instead of a husband or partner....Jennifer is like a mother for Jack, instead of a wife, I find that so unappealing. At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him. I'm for Jennifer being with anyone except Jack. Watching Jack & Jennifer together is like nails scratching across a chalkboard...just make it stop! :frustration:
I feel that Jack and Jennifer are very different, but were a great match once. I think they could be again. I don't like Jennifer with Daniel because I feel he's quick on the draw to manipulate her feelings when ever she's with Jack. He does what ever he can to make her feel gulity for spending any time with Jack and pet and coo at him. He has to always be reassured of her feelings where Jack always knew what Jennifer was feeling before she could even say it herself. I think Jack also has more confidence in himself and where his relationship with Jennifer could go, where Daniel seems like a high school kid who always needs to hear Jennifer say how she feels about him. To me Jack would be the better choice for her as he can stand aside and let her do her thing, where Daniel always need her to pet him and have her attention.
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ChampagneRiver
Jan 21 2012, 09:56 PM
doxiefollies
Jan 21 2012, 09:38 PM
At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him.
But she does have to grovel, cry and beg him not to leave her because he has the unfortunate habit of dumping her every other week.
Not to mention apologize for daring to have a life before he came along or for showing any affection, concern, or interest for the man she shared most of her life with in front of him.

So far, Jennifer has cried and made excuses for kissing Jack in her own house while Daniel was spying on them through her window.

Practically wet herself in agitation over Daniel seeing a wedding photo of her and Jack among other family photos in Alice's collection.

Almost had conniptions over Abigail inviting Jack to the family tree-trimming when she herself had invited Daniel.

Cried some more when Daniel dumped her after learning Jack had asked her to The Nutcracker before he did.

Jennifer has become a mewling teenager forever trying to soothe and placate her egotistical boyfriend, just to keep him around. As for Daniel, he comes across as an aging frat boy whose main concern in "winning" over his rival and who takes his marbles and stomps off whenever "the game" he instigated doesn't go his way. One could call these two characters many things, but "mature" and "equal partners" aren't the terms that spring to mind.

And for the record, I've never seen anything the least bit "motherly" in Jennifer's interactions with Jack. For much of their relationship, they had a mentor/apprentice dynamic. And Jack was the mentor, the cynic to Jennifer's idealist.
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ChampagneRiver
Jan 21 2012, 09:56 PM
doxiefollies
Jan 21 2012, 09:38 PM
At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him.
But she does have to grovel, cry and beg him not to leave her because he has the unfortunate habit of dumping her every other week.
Jennifer was young and impetuous when she met Jack. He was older and jaded. She challenged his brooding pessimism with her bright optimism. They matched. Ostensibly, he was the boss, but she bossed him around constantly. And he kind of liked it. He "let" her mother him many times because he was fascinated by her feistiness, and because often when she was down or depressed, he could get her riled up by pretending to be inept or make a mistake. This was their dynamic.

Later on, the writers chose to have Jennifer constantly complaining and nagging that Jack should change. As others here have noted, she chose to take on that attitude, even though when push came to shove, more often than not it was Jack rushing in to support or rescue her from some kind of trouble she had gotten herself into (from a collapsed bridge, from a conniving doctor, from a pregnancy scare, from the side of a cliff, and so on.)

Jack has always wanted Jennifer to be strong and independent both as a woman and a journalist. Daniel seems to like her totally focused on him. He only belatedly showed an interest in her career after Jack came back, and that was lukewarm because he hasn't mentioned it once since.

Personally, regardless of who she is with, I want feisty and strong Jennifer back -- the person who was stalwart and who loved and stood by her man no matter what. But in the meantime, I'd still rather watch her with Jack who "lets" her mother him than with Daniel who lets her act like a gushing immature teenager (and that was BEFORE Jack arrived back in Salem).



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AHM


Well, Doxie, I love the offbeat shift from the ordinary that I see with Jack and Jennifer. I love Jack for being complex and damaged, and yes, funny (though I'm not a fan of Langan taking it to buffoonery some during the second run). I hope Jack and Jennifer aren't destroyed for a couple like D/J. There are plenty such ordinary couples for people who want that, and I've loved and followed Jack and Jennifer for such a long time. Maybe it's not a real argument, but I think it'll be a rip off if a couple I've invested in for twenty years is destroyed for a trite, thrown together "romance" of a few months (honestly, I can't even call what D/J had a romance---a couple of dates and sex?).

But all that aside, I see so much more potential for good, emotional, dramatic, history based story with JnJ than J/D.
Edited by AHM, Jan 22 2012, 12:34 AM.
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Vicky4Mimi
Jan 19 2012, 03:10 PM
“Part of the reason that he is leaving is to gain perspective on his life. But Daniel is also giving Jennifer and Jack time to figure out if they should be together.”

The two express disappointment over their failed marriage. “Jennifer and Daniel aren’t separating,” asserts Reeves. “It’s because they love each other so much that each wants what’s best for the other. So, it’s a very painful goodbye.”

credit Second Chances http://secondchanceslumi.com/topic/6688156/1/
This Spoiler is just so wrong. Second Chances should be accountable and explain this nonsense.
Missing and cut scenes absolutely believable, it makes Days look really bad. MR clearly not informed on the SL direction is even worse. Should be very embarrassing for all involved. Absolutely no discussion takes place or is inferred about Dan leaving to let JnJ figure out if they should be together.

Failed Marriage-- Jen and Dan are still single so -- I assume it was in the original SL plans
Separating--- they aren`t married, so technically, they are just breaking up
Painful Goodbye-- only for the fans watching

Please stop gaslighting the fans, I am not losing my mind, but I do feel victimized.

I assume Jen and Dan were to be married, but someone changed their mind. Actually, I would have preferred to see it happen, then would have enjoyed having Daniel wanting and needing to leave, because he cannot stand to see and feel JnJ getting closer. It would have been far more rewardig than the hand tremor and love crazy thing going on right now.
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I'm beginning to think as well that a marriage was the original storyline for Daniel and Jen and what is happening now is a hasty rewrite. The handshaking disease is an excuse to have Daniel leave town for awhile. Now I'm curious to see what happens while he is gone. Despite MR's nonstop pimping of Daniffer the pairing just isn't popular with the fans and changes were made to the original story. I'm wondering now if Chloe is being brought back for Daniel. That's the only pairing I liked him in and I think a Daniel/Chloe/Brady/Madison quad could be a good storyline.

Since I can't stand Jennifer anymore, she can be killed by the New Salem Serial Killer.
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leela46
Jan 22 2012, 01:49 AM
I'm beginning to think as well that a marriage was the original storyline for Daniel and Jen and what is happening now is a hasty rewrite. The handshaking disease is an excuse to have Daniel leave town for awhile. Now I'm curious to see what happens while he is gone. Despite MR's nonstop pimping of Daniffer the pairing just isn't popular with the fans and changes were made to the original story. I'm wondering now if Chloe is being brought back for Daniel. That's the only pairing I liked him in and I think a Daniel/Chloe/Brady/Madison quad could be a good storyline.

Since I can't stand Jennifer anymore, she can be killed by the New Salem Serial Killer.
I disagree. I don't think a marriage storyline was ever planned for Dannifer. (At least not yet) That would have had to involve too many characters for a marriage storyline. Bo, Hope, Victor, Maggie, Melanie, Abby, Jack. That's a lot of scenes to cut. I think it's more likely that the person who wrote the article screwed up and it should have said marraiges. I remember reading SOW a month or so ago and one of the articles was titled "Chad comes clean to Marlena", that was a WTF moment for me because it clearly should have said Will.
Edited by LanaluvsBroe, Jan 22 2012, 10:15 AM.
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ChampagneRiver
Jan 21 2012, 09:56 PM
doxiefollies
Jan 21 2012, 09:38 PM
At least with Daniel, they are equal partners and she doesn't have to "mother" him.
But she does have to grovel, cry and beg him not to leave her because he has the unfortunate habit of dumping her every other week.
Amen to that! And why do the writers keep repeating this scenario? Are the writers really so bad, that they think that this is good drama? Could they really think that? Are we talking Ed Wood, Jr. bad? The man famous for Plan 9 From Outer Space, and other "gems", LOL? Is this what it all boils down to, now?
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I am sick to death of Missy, and her talk of Daniel and Jennifer's true love. She HAS to know how popular Jack and Jennifer are, and yet, she doesn't seem to care. I can't help but think there has been a falling out between Missy and Matt behind the scenes. Anyway, she sleepwalks through her scenes and I would love for DAYS to show her the door at this point. There are many Hortons they could bring back; Sarah Horton in particular.
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The article in SOW is worse...

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This storyline has no continuity. Jack leaves Jennifer to push her towards Daniel, Daniel leaves Jennifer to push her towards Jack....someone make a fucking decision for Christ's sake.

All been very sudden? We've been living this shit for 4 months now Missy!

I'd really like someone to explain to me how Daniel leaving is doing what's best for Jennifer yet Jack leaving with the same goddamn excuse "hurt and destroyed" his family??? I need a writer on this board STAT. Because I don't get how as a viewer I'm supposed to buy that shit and not feel like it's a total prop for this character I don't give a crap about.
Out of every other storyline on canvas right now, this one is proof positive that MarDar think their viewers are stupid and will buy anything they write if they get what they want in the end. Newsflash: it doesn't work that way, morons.
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MyHappyEnding
Jan 22 2012, 12:22 PM
This storyline has no continuity. Jack leaves Jennifer to push her towards Daniel, Daniel leaves Jennifer to push her towards Jack....someone make a fucking decision for Christ's sake.

All been very sudden? We've been living this shit for 4 months now Missy!

I'd really like someone to explain to me how Daniel leaving is doing what's best for Jennifer yet Jack leaving with the same goddamn excuse "hurt and destroyed" his family??? I need a writer on this board STAT. Because I don't get how as a viewer I'm supposed to buy that shit and not feel like it's a total prop for this character I don't give a crap about.
Out of every other storyline on canvas right now, this one is proof positive that MarDar think their viewers are stupid and will buy anything they write if they get what they want in the end. Newsflash: it doesn't work that way, morons.
Amen to this! I would love to see an interview with MarDar! Of all the crappy storylines JnJ fans have had to sit through, this is the worst!
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Bring back Jack!

LanaluvsBroe
Jan 22 2012, 12:14 PM
The article in SOW is worse...

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Thanks..yeah the nerve of Jack escaping his cave hell to interrupt her perfect life. Again why is this story about Jennifer's feelings? They may aswell have just had Jack get lost in the Australian Wilderness with no means of contact because the reaction would've been no different.

And I thought she "fell in love" with Daniel after their one month (3 dates + sex) of dating. Jack was nowhere near coming back at that point. Besides if she and Daniel love each other so much then Jack returning should play no part in that. I'm pretty sure Jack wouldn't want her to reunite with him out of obligation. Inspite of what she thinks Jack would always put her happiness ahead of his own (even though he is going through the worse torment of his life).

Anyway I'm assuming the quotes are just Missy's interpretation of what Jennifer's supposed to feel (not sure if that makes it worse or not). I don't see the point of the big hoopla of him leaving if Jennifer's gonna carry on pining for him. He could have left quietly and still played the time he's away the same. But I guess they couldn't beceause him sneaking off would be the same as Jack did.
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