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Wednesday , January 25th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 24 2012, 02:44 PM (7,573 Views)
LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Beth
Jan 24 2012, 04:30 PM
What if Lucas is the new CEO of Titan and that's why he comes home???
I was thinking of that.....
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LuvingLumi
Jan 24 2012, 03:03 PM
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i dont want to have to go to Ej and ask for child support, i dont want to have to ask Lucas
and maybe allie should go back to Hong Kong


WTF Sami? Are you trying to tell me that Lucas and Ej aren't paying child support and that if you reach out to Lucas he's going to ask for Allie to go back to HK? This is the shit that sometimes makes me scratch my head....who the fuck was the breakdown writer for this episode? That makes absolutely NO SENSE.
I put all this on the writers. It's complete manufactured BS! If they want to write in angst then do it believably. No viewer is going to accept, no matter what the writers have the characters say, that Ej and Lucas are not being financially responsible for their kids! These are strong, proud, wealthy men who love their children. They are in no way shape or form going to let Sami and her husband be sole providers. That whole discussion was a joke. Quit insulting the viewers with this forced plot baloney.
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LuvingLumi
Jan 24 2012, 04:45 PM
Beth
Jan 24 2012, 04:30 PM
What if Lucas is the new CEO of Titan and that's why he comes home???
I was thinking of that.....
Sounds like an excellent plan!
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Keith
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Lucas coming in and becoming CEO makes sense.

WTF is Sami talking about? Whoever wrote the script today doesn't understand how this works. Why would Sami have to go to EJ and ask for child support? Are you telling me that him giving her full custody came with zero support? Bullshit! He wouldn't leave his kids to want for anything financially, no matter what Sami said. He would find a way. Same goes for Lucas. He may not have the wealth that EJ has, but he has worked for many successful companies, years for Titan, briefly with Mythic, and Hearth and Home. He's not exactly hurting for cash. This whole financial struggle that they are trying to make us buy with Sami and Rafe makes no sense. Its great that they're trying to bring different economic realities into the show, but you can't just pick a random couple and do it. As a writer, you have deal with the realities of the characters. At the very least, Rafe would be collecting unemployment after being fired from the Salem PD. I also find it hard to believe he didn't get a severance package from the FBI. And the only people they should be worried about is each other. The kids should be MORE than covered by their wealthy fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, etc. And making Sami turn it unbelievably into a source of pride is not helping the case of the character's negative impact. If any mother of 3 kids under 10 years of age tried to pull something like that while not having a job of her own, she would have her kids ripped from her so fast. I would more easily buy Sami living off of her kids' child support than the shit they're trying to make us believe. Its underhanded and it would fit the Sami of today, at least before getting her own job. Hell, the way she's playing the job field, I wouldn't be surprised to see her try to use it as cushion money and still having enough to make sure the kids are more than taken care of.
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Dany_E
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Madison's blouse is a horror to behold. Seriously??? She looks like she won several prize heifer contests.
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Lady Evol
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I was under the impression when EJ signed over the kids that he gave up his parental rights. That's the only way you can hand over your kids and not have any visitation. Judges won't approve an agreement where the kids have no contact with one of the parents. Granted, the writers have proved they have really limited knowledge of law and can't be bothered to research, lol. But if so, that would be why AJ doesn't pay support and Sami would have to go to him for help.

As far as Lucas, my guess is the fractured way the writeup was written doesn't convey what she was saying. Lucas pays child support, Kate said something about it when she first offered Sami the job.

I'm confused by Rafe's attitude. Full disclosure: I'm a fan, I actually only started watching days again when Galen and Lindsay came to Days from Passions. But that doesn't weigh on my thinking this story is REALLY out of character for him. Rafe likes Sami's schemy parts, and always defended her no matter how retarded she was acting. Today's crap makes it sound like he's just picking a fight so he can justify his feelings for Carrie.

Normally I don't mind boring filler episodes, there can't be constant action, but not for weeks, in the middle of story lines! Put the filler after one sl is resolved and before the next begins!!! :flipoff:
Edited by Lady Evol, Jan 24 2012, 06:37 PM.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IX69WPQYIA

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Sariah
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Partnersincrime
Jan 24 2012, 03:08 PM
Sariah
Jan 24 2012, 02:52 PM
TFP!

A new CEO for Titan? How about that heir you demanded Kate have for you before you would marry her?

YOUR SON, PHILIP!!!!

Stupid show.

they already mention philp does not want to be CEO


And this is what happens when you ignore history on the show.

Philip was being groomed to be CEO. It was the most important thing to him and Victor. He sacrificed relationships for it (Chloe and Stephanie). He fought with Brady about it. It was everything to him.

So it's total BS to me that when the opportunity came to come home to his family in Salem, to finally get that brass ring and take over Titan, that he would say no.

I just hate crap like that.
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daisy132


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Jan 24 2012, 06:39 PM
I honestly found nothing intriguing about this clip, and I watched with anticipation. Nothing.
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mandadawn
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Wow does Sami look awful. I don't even understand her hairdo. Not to mention, they should not have Alison Sweeney wearing those clothes.
I just find it funny that this show is talking about modeling and wearing model clothes when they can't put their actors into decent/form-fitting stuff.
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Helpless Romantic


I love how the Willena love shines through. :wub: :)
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Ellie


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Jan 24 2012, 05:26 PM
Its great that they're trying to bring different economic realities into the show, but you can't just pick a random couple and do it. As a writer, you have deal with the realities of the characters.
Yes yes yes yes and YES. I remember thinking this in 07 when Belle and Shawn were suddenly broke, which forced Belle to go to nursing school. Or something. BELLE'S FATHER OWNS A PLANE. It just made no sense whatsoever and seemed so forced that it interfered with the very plot they were trying to push forward. I'd put Safe in the same category.
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Ellie


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Jan 24 2012, 06:49 PM
I love how the Willena love shines through. :wub: :)
Just watched. I know... I am enjoying their scenes and that storyline so much. Such an intelligent decision by TPTB to put Deidre into that story. She and Chandler have amazing chemistry, and she really does add an adult element to what could easily be a formulaic teen-movie type of plotline.
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daisy132


I like the way Kate dresses (although it's sometimes hit and miss too). She stays "hip", but covers everything, and wears clothes that fit, and are for the most part age appropriate. KL keeps fit too, I think that she's in great shape for her age (although the botox and lip injections are a bit much at times).
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Helpless Romantic
Jan 24 2012, 06:49 PM
I love how the Willena love shines through. :wub: :)
We get a brief moment with Sonny meeting Marlena tomorrow and he is very charming with her. Sonny needs to get to know his future boyfriend's grandmother. :wub: :wub2: :wub: :wub2: :wub:
Edited by Aldo, Jan 24 2012, 07:22 PM.
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Lady Evol
Jan 24 2012, 06:35 PM
I was under the impression when EJ signed over the kids that he gave up his parental rights. That's the only way you can hand over your kids and not have any visitation. Judges won't approve an agreement where the kids have no contact with one of the parents. Granted, the writers have proved they have really limited knowledge of law and can't be bothered to research, lol. But if so, that would be why AJ doesn't pay support and Sami would have to go to him for help.

As far as Lucas, my guess is the fractured way the writeup was written doesn't convey what she was saying. Lucas pays child support, Kate said something about it when she first offered Sami the job.

I'm confused by Rafe's attitude. Full disclosure: I'm a fan, I actually only started watching days again when Galen and Lindsay came to Days from Passions. But that doesn't weigh on my thinking this story is REALLY out of character for him. Rafe likes Sami's schemy parts, and always defended her no matter how retarded she was acting. Today's crap makes it sound like he's just picking a fight so he can justify his feelings for Carrie.

Normally I don't mind boring filler episodes, there can't be constant action, but not for weeks, in the middle of story lines! Put the filler after one sl is resolved and before the next begins!!! :flipoff:
Re: EJ, under normal circumstances, yes, but neither EJ nor Stefano have ever upheld the law. I don't find it believable that they would let his kids live in abject poverity. They would find a way around the law. Its lazy writing if we're suppose to believe they haven't, even with EJ's supposed new leaf. We've already seen that with that new leaf, he's not opposed to flouting the law at his discretion (framing John, having Will steal Abe's jobs plan, having Nicole get the debate questions ahead of time).
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Ellie
Jan 24 2012, 06:50 PM
Keith
Jan 24 2012, 05:26 PM
Its great that they're trying to bring different economic realities into the show, but you can't just pick a random couple and do it. As a writer, you have deal with the realities of the characters.
Yes yes yes yes and YES. I remember thinking this in 07 when Belle and Shawn were suddenly broke, which forced Belle to go to nursing school. Or something. BELLE'S FATHER OWNS A PLANE. It just made no sense whatsoever and seemed so forced that it interfered with the very plot they were trying to push forward. I'd put Safe in the same category.
I feel like Hogan and MarDar are kind of in the same vein. Doing some things right and some things so wrong. In some cases, I think they're doing different things right and wrong, but clearly the application of general circumstances to characters those circumstances shouldn't fit isn't one of them. The inaction people complain about wasn't as bad then, but there was all of that sitting around reading letters. I do think in general that Hogan had a better cast overall with a fair balance of people who were well loved and that we loved to hate. Much of today's cast has bred indifference and they can't make us love the weak writing as much as the cast we had in 2007 (with a few exceptions, of course, such as most of those who are still here from that time).
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Ellie
Jan 24 2012, 06:53 PM
Helpless Romantic
Jan 24 2012, 06:49 PM
I love how the Willena love shines through. :wub: :)
Just watched. I know... I am enjoying their scenes and that storyline so much. Such an intelligent decision by TPTB to put Deidre into that story. She and Chandler have amazing chemistry, and she really does add an adult element to what could easily be a formulaic teen-movie type of plotline.
Yep as I have said before as far as I am concerned Marlena is more of a mother figure to Will than Sami is ever capable of being. :wub: I love that Will has someone who will listen and support him through and through instead of scream like a banshee at him and be intolerant of him like Sami will be. Alienating him further.
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Helpless Romantic


Aldo
Jan 24 2012, 07:07 PM
Helpless Romantic
Jan 24 2012, 06:49 PM
I love how the Willena love shines through. :wub: :)
We get a brief moment with Sonny meeting Marlena tomorrow and he is very charming with her. Sonny needs to get to know his future boyfriend's grandmother. :wub: :wub2: :wub: :wub2: :wub:
Marlena with Wilson is :wub: Supporting her son like any good mother or mother figure would. Unlike Sami who will throw a fit try to "change Will" and make EVERYTHING about her. :shame:
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Ellie


Keith
Jan 24 2012, 07:15 PM
I feel like Hogan and MarDar are kind of in the same vein. Doing some things right and some things so wrong. In some cases, I think they're doing different things right and wrong, but clearly the application of general circumstances to characters those circumstances shouldn't fit isn't one of them. The inaction people complain about wasn't as bad then, but there was all of that sitting around reading letters.
Agree... If they were all (Marlene, Darrell and Hogan) breakdown writers under someone who knew how to direct stories and tie them together, the final product would be excellent.
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