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Thursday January 26th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 25 2012, 02:36 PM (12,322 Views)
Skye
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Thursday, January, 26



Marlena meets jack at the Horton square
he says he isnt comfortable meeting in public
she says we are not having a session here just wanted to ask you something, we remember i told you that im
meeting with military veterans that have served overseas
we begun having weekly therapy sessions and we are about to have one in the next 10 minutes
thought it would be good for you to join us,,,sit and listen
he says no i cant sorry
hard enough for him to meet with her one on one

madison meets with Abigail at the square, wants her to edit something

Quinn and Melanie at the spa
he tells her he wants to talk about Abigail cuz she was her best friend
mel says she was but she hates me now

john and brady at home
john wants to talk about a campaign in the high fashion magazines
something like black is back
brady says thats
predictable and expected
we need to use something we have have not done before, fashion magazines
who reads them anymore
john says women who buy clothes
brady says young women who buy most of the clothes , buy online
we have to be online, have to get a twitter account
john says
we are starting from scratch here
brady says i think you are dead wrong

Quinn and Melanie discuss Abigail
mel doesnt understand why he cares
he says cuz he made so many mistakes in his life and its easier to fix things before they go to far

mad tells Abigail they have to rescue Quinn, now they are at the spa , she says she has a new product that involves Quinn
he comes up and talks to Madison
he sends abi off to do something

mar says can we talk about this
he says its not going to work
those people they put their lives on the line.
this pen is my deadly weapon of choice and it would be an insult to pretend that i went thru the same thing
she says thats up to them , i asked if i could bring someone
he says no we will meet for the regular session
she says you are running away again you cant see that

john and brady have an argument
brady says lets talk about something else
john says the Yankees?
Brady says he isnt a Yankee fan
we are not going to work on any ad campaign
right now we have to see if we can work together



Quinn set up for abigail and melanie to run in to each other
they talk

madison wants to talk about him selling countess w
it screams middle age
she wants to use his spa for a huge national campaign that will promote mad world cosmetics
he says thats what kate is already doing
she says no she is going to launch a successful campaign
he could open spas all over the usa
opportunity of a lifetime



jack and marlena are in the hall way
jack says i dont think i can do this
she says you are one of the bravest people i know
what you went thru was unspeakable and you are going thru it all over again in order to heal, thats courage
he says i want to doesnt mean that i can
she says the people are helping each other, thats how they survive
they dont judge
jack says Abigail and JJ deserve a real father not half of me
i can try,, cover me im going in
they enter the room
mar says this is my friend jack
the man i told you about
the guys are sitting there
not looking too friendly
a woman has a dog
jack looks unsure




john tells brady, you are acting like a jerk
kind of like i am right now
they laugh

the woman says hi jack im Leslie this is Isaac ,my service dog
she introduces him to the other men
they all shake his hand
except for one guy, who seems quiet
jack and marlena sit
one guy says he has been back 3 weeks but doesnt feel like he is home , he asks jack
where did you serve
jack says im not in the service , im a writer
he says im not a big fan of journalists, maybe you meant well but
9 times out of 10 you guys have it all wrong, guess you had to be there
marlena says jack was there
jack says i was in Afghanistan i was working on a story about the drug trade and
leslie says how long where you there
he says i was there about a year
i was kidnapped
they kept me in a cave for about a year
i feel that right now,it doesnt feel like home feels like im still back there in the cave

john tells brady the problem is they are 2 much a like
john says he still stands by everything he said
we disagreed but we are still here
i can trust you thats the biggest thing of all
maybe we can come up with something we can both live with

melanie and abigail talk
quinn and mad come in
quinn says thats progress they didnt kill each other
quin introduces Melanie to Madison
mad says she has a new campaign for mad world, she wants to feature the 2 of them and the spa , and she wants them to be
the faces of the new line
you are both beautiful
she likes the way they relate to each other
she wants to feature friends ,best friends, who
look like real people
Quinn says we have a problem here
mad says if you 2 are on the outs
then i dont need either one of you

leslie says she wanted to share the things she remembered the most the sound of gun fire and the warm amazing people of Bosnia
jack says i think thats an amazing thing
you lost so much
she says i lost part of my leg but i still can walk ,lost most of my vision but i can still see a bit
so many people over there have lost their lives , towns, families
worst of all they lost their hope and sense of freedom
one guy says he has a blood clot now he cant go back
they feel like they let the guys down that are still over there
another guy says he wakes up in a sweat, can still hear gun fire
his wife wants him to talk about it
but he cant talk about those things
jack asks him his age
he says he is 20
jack says you are kid, my daughters age
another woman comes in
named Pat
she is a marine
she was in Iraq

john and brady talk about
reaching a compromise
john says i think black is back

madison says she cant have an ad campaign about friends without friends
melanie say she is interested
Abigail says she is too


Leslie said when i came home i felt so disfigured
i had to morn my leg and my vision
taken me a long time to get where she is today
she is still in therapy
she decided not to let herself be a victim
i still have my voice and spirit
now she can reach out to give hope to others

pat says she thinks she is doing ok
then her 3 year old asks her whats wrong
and she doesnt want him to know.
He was the one who kept her going
he is my everything
Mike says they talk there but not at home, he cant say anything
like he isnt him
like walking thru his life
and no one but them knows what he has seen
what im thinking

paco says he thinks it was good for
his friends mom to know he was holding him when he died
his last words were tell my mom i love her
he hasnt laughed since he died
he thinks he never will again

Abigail and Melanie talk for awhile
about Daniel leaving
mel understand why she is upset
but Melanie still wants to be with chad

madison talks to Quinn
he wants to think about her offer
he says he will be breaking his agreement with kate
she says is she going to make him rich
he smiles
she says i take that as a yes

jack says what more can he say
its crazy to think you are the only one who has been to hell and back

poco says there are thousands
like them
going thru the same thing
jack says he will never feel sorry for himself again
paco asks him what was it like in the cave for a year
jack says time was weird
i knew it was important if i could remember what day it was ,if i knew the day
i kept a calendar , scratched in a rock
they couldnt see it
thought i wouldnt go crazy if i knew the day
its stupid
they beat us ,tortured us
he has flashbacks
of the beatings
i kept saying i will go home ,i will make it home
and then one day
they came and killed one of the prisoners, they
took my friend and i heard him screaming , i didnt want to know that there were people who could do that i didnt want to be in a world where there are people that could be like that and now that world and those people are more real to me than any of this
its like i feel like im still back in the cave

when i got out and came back i said yes i made it i survived ,going to pick up where i left off and go
it didnt work out that way
i managed to scare the hell out of my wife, i kept freaking out
it wasnt the people back there and it wasnt everything that happened
the world had moved on with out me the people i knew had moved on without me and i couldnt cuz
i have a huge part of myself that is back there
in a cave
i wanna be a good dad to my kids i wanna be a man whose wife wants to be with him
i want to be whole again
mar says thank you jack
time is about up for today
not easy for anybody
im reminded of what a world war 2 vet said once,, for those who were there no explanation necessary, for those that werent no explanation possible
hope you all come back next week
jack gets up and the guys shakes his hand and hugs him
and the women
they all leave

mar gives jack a hug
he says thank you
she says you did really good

Note at the end thanking the vets
for what they do

Tomorrow....Ej telling Will, im going to throw a party and i would like you to bring the quest of honour

Abigail telling Austin she is more mature than he realizes

Hope asking Stef , if he saw what was in that box
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annie21


Skye, thanks so much for posting this.

I was impressed with the PTSD stuff. So very impressed. It just goes to show you how riveting real drama can be. Wow. Just... wow.

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Dany_E
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I cried just reading this. Can't wait to see it.
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Ellie


Can't wait to see this... I'm so impressed with Days that they've done this type of show. Just wow. Thanks Skye!
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Dreamer
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Jack, Jack and more Jack! Everything else was boring, John and Brady, Madison, Abby, Quinn and Me-- Yawn!
TPTB should have made this epi with just Marlena and Jack and the group session members. They could totally hold their own!

Thanks for the write-up Skye. Now, where shall we start?
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NikiLani
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The Vets and Jack made this episode...just marvelous. Everything else sucked in comparison!

Looking forward to tomorrow, to see Nicole's reaction when EJ walks in with Sydney.
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Romancer66


Thanks for posting!

The scenes with Jack and the vets sound very powerful. I'm glad some of the stuff shown in those mini-plots last summer was explained--Jack scratching a calendar on the rocks, for example.

I like that Jack's first thought is of his children, and getting well for them. He was way too kind about Jennifer, of course. Because the fact that she doesn't want to be with him or be there for him in his present condition says far more about her than it does about him--and nothing good, either. Which is why I'm hoping that her emotional detachment and total lack of interest/involvement in his recovery becomes a major issue between Jack and Jennifer, once he's further along in his therapy.

Marriage is supposed to be for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, and Jen-Jen has completely failed in that regard. It's one thing to be scared when your spouse is psychologically traumatized and freaking out--it's another to be so cold, uncaring, and selfish as to reject him for not being "happy." i really hope the show and Jack do not continue to let Jennifer off the hook for her callousness. Viewers would have turned against Jack in droves if he'd been as cavalier about Jennifer's rape as she's being about his PTSD.

I don't have much to say about the other storylines in this episode, because, frankly, they all sound like inconsequential filler. Especially the spa and modeling stuff. FF buttons were made for this.

Thanks again!
Edited by Romancer66, Jan 25 2012, 03:05 PM.
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NikiLani
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Dany_E
Jan 25 2012, 02:53 PM
I cried just reading this. Can't wait to see it.
Me too. He's the only person that's ever made me cry on this stupid show.

AMAZING!
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AHM


The Jack stuff sounds good. I hope that it comes off as tasteful. I also hope it's setting up some sense of how alone Jack feels and how much Jennifer is not there for him because she's been too focused on her silly fling. But that's probably hoping for too much.

I don't care about Quinn at all. Or whether he sells Mad World or Countess W.
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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

Beautiful episode (Jack/Marlena stuff ONLY)!! DAYS deserves some recognition for this one...a very real and emotional episode...Hall and Ashford were great!

The only downside to this episode was EVERYTHING ELSE..WOW bad!
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Ally
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The Royal Princess

Wow. Just wow. Lost for words about the Jack/Marlena stuff. Sounds phenomenal.
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Dreamer
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Going in, I as not sure what I expected from the epi. Jack doesn't want to go, b/c he thinks he can't do it. Marlena tells him not to run away. He tries to get out of it and she tells him they already know about him and the he can do it, so they go. Initially, there is a little hesitation about Jack being there, esp. from 1 of the group members, they were all military service personnel and Jack admits to being a journalist. One of the ladies is late for the session, name is Pat, thought it would be a match for Jack, but she is not really soapy, (you'll see what I mean). We will have to wait and see what happens to Jack's therapy.

In the first set of scenes, each member tells parts of their story. Jack can sympathize with them and seems a little shocked. When the corporal tells him he's 20 years old, Jack mentions the same age as Abi. When it is his turn, Jack talks about the need to keep track of time. He tells them he did this by scratching on a rock, he kept hidden. Keeping track of time, seemed very important to him, to keep him sane. He fought hard to stay strong and hoped to return home one day. Jack talks of returning home and pickup with his life, where he left off. Clear disappointment, that life went on without him, he was different, things were different. He admits to scaring the hell out of his wife, the corrects himself, and says ex-wife. (we know that he is refering to the cabin epi). Jack goes on about not feeling right, has breakdowns. Jack wants to feel whole again. MA did an excellent job with his body language and facial expressions, he looked so uncomfortable talking about all this. He rocked!!

The last scenes were several minutes long, I had a hard time keeping the tears back at this point. Jack continues about how he doesn't feel like he's home and that half of him is still back in the afghan cave. He wants to be whole again. He want his wife to want him. He wants his life back. All the uneasiness that was felt in the beginning of the scene, seems to have disappeared, as Jack lets them in on his year of torture. In the end, it is so touching to see Jack accepted among the group. As each member leaves, Jack gets hugs and handshakes from all of them and he is overwhelmed by their support. I guess, nobody has hugged him in a very long time. In the final scene, Marlena and Jack hug and she tells him he did really well, not sure she says proud of him, but the sentiment is there, etc.
Edited by Dreamer, Jan 25 2012, 03:19 PM.
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For the first time in a long time I am looking forward to an episode of Days. I just love that Marlena is taking care of Jack and helping him with this ordeal.

TFP!
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Looks like I'll be watching tomorrow's show just for the Jack and Marlena scenes alone.
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Romancer66
Jan 25 2012, 03:04 PM
Thanks for posting!

The scenes with Jack and the vets sound very powerful. I'm glad some of the stuff shown in those mini-plots last summer was explained--Jack scratching a calendar on the rocks, for example.

I like that Jack's first thought is of his children, and getting well for them. He was way too kind about Jennifer, of course. Because the fact that she doesn't want to be with him or be there for him in his present condition says far more about her than it does about him--and nothing good, either. Which is why I'm hoping that her emotional detachment and total lack of interest/involvement in his recovery becomes a major issue between Jack and Jennifer, once he's further along in his therapy.

Marriage is supposed to be for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, and Jen-Jen has completely failed in that regard. It's one thing to be scared when your spouse is psychologically traumatized and freaking out--it's another to be so cold, uncaring, and selfish as to reject him for not being "happy." i really hope the show and Jack do not continue to let Jennifer off the hook for her callousness. Viewers would have turned against Jack in droves if he'd been as cavalier about Jennifer's rape as she's being about his PTSD.

I don't have much to say about the other storylines in this episode, because, frankly, they all sound like inconsequential filler. Especially the spa and modeling stuff. FF buttons were made for this.

Thanks again!
There's so much good story if they go there, but then Jennifer has to take a fall. But that fall would redeem the character and would serve to make her more interesting.

I read MaryPickford's "Spoiler Free Days" blog. She posted comments about Jack and Jennifer's mock vows in Alamania. That one scene captures so well what Jack and Jennifer are really all about and who they are. Jennifer's "for better and mostly worse" is joking, but it also highlights what made Jennifer so appealing. She knew Jack wasn't easy, but she loved him and she fought for him, and she even liked that he was a challenge. I get that he lied and left and that her anger and hurt over that are justified, but clearly what happened wasn't his plan. It would be one thing if the crux of the "triangle" were Jennifer afraid of getting hurt again, but the show has made the issue that she's too in love with Daniel, and I don't understand that at all. I can't believe it. My issue is how very shallow that makes Jennifer seem. Particularly when she strings Jack along anyway. She went from a woman who loved the push and the pull and the arguing and the challenge of Jack to this woman who would settle for the Daniel doldrums; it's sad. And when there are episodes like this one, or even more striking because of the juxtaposition, the episode with Jack/Marlena and Jen/Dan, Jennifer just seems like such a twit. I want Jennifer Rose back! What I really hate is that Jennifer in her current crappy state is on three days a week and Jack is on so much less. He's interesting. She's not. I think the way to make her interesting again is to get into Jack really turning off from Jennifer, feeling like she failed him, and Jennifer looking at herself and dealing with that and having to convince him to open back up to her again.
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JACK!!!!!! :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :'( :'(
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Does anyone get a feeling that maybe this is the start of those rewrites that Missy spoke about?
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LuvingLumi
Jan 25 2012, 03:33 PM
Does anyone get a feeling that maybe this is the start of those rewrites that Missy spoke about?
No. Sorry to be a pesimist but this just a powerfull standalone episode, nothing more. I doubt MarDarīs involvement in it went beyond "We have the vets episode with Jack coming, who wants to write it?" It will have exactly the same zero effect on the story or anything else as the last session.
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Just reading the write up is making me tear up. :( Thanks for posting!
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Dreamer
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This episode was totally awesome! It was a standalone epi, it really doesn't follow the triangle SL at all. It's all about Jack, thank God! IMO, this epi is not a rewrite, except maybe for the point I mention below.

I was elated that Jack referred to the importance of time, and that it was what kept him sane. Knowing what day it was, kept him going as he hoped to return home again one day. When Jack 1st returned to Salem, I remember he told Jennifer it was her, that kept him alive and going in that cave, etc., she was the one that saved him. In this epi, TPTB, didn't include this in Jack's cave reflections to the group.

IMO, the rewrites are all going to be about making MR & Jennifer look better. In the viewers eyes, Jennifer is in hell right now, fans or not, her performance, dialogue and treatment of Jack was intolerable, on so many levels. It was idiotic and nonsensical. Now, Jennifer needs major damage control, to even come close to getting viewer support and acceptance, with or without playing along side Jack.
Edited by Dreamer, Jan 25 2012, 04:19 PM.
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