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SOD: Nicole to EJ: "Tell Me The Truth!"; 2/07/12 Issue
Topic Started: Jan 26 2012, 02:56 PM (10,589 Views)
LuvingLumi
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Feb 1 2012, 03:46 PM

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The facts should be faced that when Lucas gets back to town, there will be nothing else to argue about as far as so called Ejami. Ej will be with his love Nicole and LUMI will be working things out with between them and Safe...making all the Ejami stuff a moot point or as Joey Tribbiani (FRIENDS) says a "MOO" point lol.
But none of those scenarios are 'facts'.
When Bryan D. is onscreen all with be right with the world!
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Feb 1 2012, 03:04 PM
Nicole sure does get hurt by EJ focusing on Sami. If she's ok with him faking Syd's death and her mother getting killed by one of EJ's plans to exact revenge on Sami, she'll eat up whatever shit EJ serves up to her with a spoon and a smile.
That's why the Nicole fan in me does not like her in the EJole pairing. She's too weak and too watered down. EJ should have had to work harder to get her back.

I realize the the new writing regime may have been moving them together quickly to get their stories on track. Still, given Nicole's history with EJ, it sucked to watch her character go back that easily.
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But none of those scenarios are 'facts'.
When Bryan D. is onscreen all with be right with the world!
You said it! and with no sarcastic emoticon to follow it.....
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I truly believe that people's blood pressures will be at therapeutic levels when he arrives, thereby averting a national healthcare crisis.
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|But then if that wasn't the case we would get the constant complaints like we got when Lucas was around and he would call Sami on her lies, that he doesn't support her for who she is, yada, yada. Same thing goes for Ejole, and realistically it's part of a soap to have someone that loves someone else be vulnerable with that person from time and time and trust him/her even when they know they shouldn't. It's part of the writing of a love story, it's the reason why Brenda fell for Sonny the mobster. It happens and it's totally soapy.
The facts should be faced that when Lucas gets back to town, there will be nothing else to argue about as far as so called Ejami. Ej will be with his love Nicole and LUMI will be working things out with between them and Safe...making all the Ejami stuff a moot point or as Joey Tribbiani (FRIENDS) says a "MOO" point lol.
But none of those scenarios are 'facts'.
Exactly.

Actually the fact was before Lucas left town, Sami was fantasizing Lucas was EJ and was dreaming of kissing EJ in bed. That was a fact to how Lucas was written in comparison to EJ before he left for China.

Who knows what this regime will write?
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Nicole sure does get hurt by EJ focusing on Sami. If she's ok with him faking Syd's death and her mother getting killed by one of EJ's plans to exact revenge on Sami, she'll eat up whatever shit EJ serves up to her with a spoon and a smile.
That's why the Nicole fan in me does not like her in the EJole pairing. She's too weak and too watered down. EJ should have had to work harder to get her back.

I realize the the new writing regime may have been moving them together quickly to get their stories on track. Still, given Nicole's history with EJ, it sucked to watch her character go back that easily.
To me, she's always been a weak character pre-ej. She has made it a habit to manipulate teenagers for her gain, for eg. Her history of her father treating her the way he did makes makes her seek someone who treats her like garbage and she emulates her mother's door mat ways. So in a lot of ways Ejole make sense, it's just sad to watch. Not my idea of romance in the afternoon.
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^^I remember very little about Nicole during the storline --mostly because she was in prison. I know she got out in time to do get the tape recording of Ej talking to Stefano--but I don't remember EJ talking about Nicole at that time. I could be wrong--since it was a year and a half ago--but still the focus of EJ's sure seemed to be directed at hurting Sami. As his focus seems to always be on hurting Sami.

EJ made a point to go to Brady, tell him Sydney was dead, and ask him to let Nicole know. She wasn't in town, so he couldn't truly torture her, but he did want her to suffer.

Nicole was aware of this, too: Nicole: No, what I did, I did out of grief and loss and deep, crushing pain. What you did was a cold-hearted act designed to punish me and Sami, to put us through hell actually. And all at the expense of that little girl who was taken out of her home and away from her mother, away from everything that she knew. No, EJ, what you did was a far, far worse crime than mine could ever be. And like me, now you will pay.
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Feb 1 2012, 03:01 PM
I just don't think I could ever accept Ejami as a pairing again. I don't even care about all the things Ej did to Sami, its the fact that Sami tried to blow his brains out and showed no remorse ever.


:shrug: To me, these things happen. If EJ does get back with her, he'd do well to make sure she doesn't have the combination to the gun safe though.
Yeah Ej would would always have to sleep with one eye open. For me just like some complain about Nicole's character being destroyed being paired with Ej I feel the same could be said of Ej if he went back to his attempted murderess. That's just something I can't move past.
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Nicole sure does get hurt by EJ focusing on Sami. If she's ok with him faking Syd's death and her mother getting killed by one of EJ's plans to exact revenge on Sami, she'll eat up whatever shit EJ serves up to her with a spoon and a smile.
That's why the Nicole fan in me does not like her in the EJole pairing. She's too weak and too watered down. EJ should have had to work harder to get her back.

I realize the the new writing regime may have been moving them together quickly to get their stories on track. Still, given Nicole's history with EJ, it sucked to watch her character go back that easily.
To me, she's always been a weak character pre-ej. She has made it a habit to manipulate teenagers for her gain, for eg. Her history of her father treating her the way he did makes makes her seek someone who treats her like garbage and she emulates her mother's door mat ways. So in a lot of ways Ejole make sense, it's just sad to watch. Not my idea of romance in the afternoon.
You bring up a good point. Nicole has always been drawn to situations that are not good for her. I guess because I am a Nicole fan I still root for her to change that? :shrug:
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The facts should be faced that when Lucas gets back to town, there will be nothing else to argue about as far as so called Ejami. Ej will be with his love Nicole and LUMI will be working things out with between them and Safe...making all the Ejami stuff a moot point or as Joey Tribbiani (FRIENDS) says a "MOO" point lol.
But none of those scenarios are 'facts'.
Exactly.

Actually the fact was before Lucas left town, Sami was fantasizing Lucas was EJ and was dreaming of kissing EJ in bed. That was a fact to how Lucas was written in comparison to EJ before he left for China.

Who knows what this regime will write?
To my recollection, didn't that fantasy happen in 2008? Lucas left town in 2010, it's been 4 years since that fantasy and aside from her once imagining herself in a pic instead of Nicole around Ejole's first wedding, Sami hasn't thought of Ej ever again in that way. Even when she was kissing him in 2010, she started dreaming about being with Rafe.
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When Bryan D. is onscreen all with be right with the world!
You said it! and with no sarcastic emoticon to follow it.....
;)
I truly believe that people's blood pressures will be at therapeutic levels when he arrives, thereby averting a national healthcare crisis.
I think my blood pressure is going to spike! :D
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Nicole sure does get hurt by EJ focusing on Sami. If she's ok with him faking Syd's death and her mother getting killed by one of EJ's plans to exact revenge on Sami, she'll eat up whatever shit EJ serves up to her with a spoon and a smile.
That's why the Nicole fan in me does not like her in the EJole pairing. She's too weak and too watered down. EJ should have had to work harder to get her back.

I realize the the new writing regime may have been moving them together quickly to get their stories on track. Still, given Nicole's history with EJ, it sucked to watch her character go back that easily.
To me, she's always been a weak character pre-ej. She has made it a habit to manipulate teenagers for her gain, for eg. Her history of her father treating her the way he did makes makes her seek someone who treats her like garbage and she emulates her mother's door mat ways. So in a lot of ways Ejole make sense, it's just sad to watch. Not my idea of romance in the afternoon.
You bring up a good point. Nicole has always been drawn to situations that are not good for her. I guess because I am a Nicole fan I still root for her to change that? :shrug:
Of course! Just because I've had my fill of the woman, I can see the appeal to that but the ejole relationship isn't where Nicole is going to have that soul searching and hard work to accomplish that. EJ's character would have to have a major overhaul and it would destroy the essence of EJ Dimera that is alluring.
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Feb 1 2012, 03:57 PM

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But none of those scenarios are 'facts'.
Exactly.

Actually the fact was before Lucas left town, Sami was fantasizing Lucas was EJ and was dreaming of kissing EJ in bed. That was a fact to how Lucas was written in comparison to EJ before he left for China.

Who knows what this regime will write?
To my recollection, didn't that fantasy happen in 2008? Lucas left town in 2010, it's been 4 years since that fantasy and aside from her once imagining herself in a pic instead of Nicole around Ejole's first wedding, Sami hasn't thought of Ej ever again in that way. Even when she was kissing him in 2010, she started dreaming about being with Rafe.
I wasn't speaking to EJ vs Rafe at all. I was responding to EJ vs Lucas, given that the implication in the post I was replying to was stating as a fact that as soon as Lucas is back on the scene, there will be no EJ where Sami is concerned. My point was that is not a fact and the fact was that scene had illustrated Soap 101 that Sami wanted EJ, not Lucas.

The dates and timing don't matter as I never meant to imply they happened yesterday. It's a new regime, which is why I said who knows what they will do. It certainly isn't fact what they will do.
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To me, she's always been a weak character pre-ej. She has made it a habit to manipulate teenagers for her gain, for eg. Her history of her father treating her the way he did makes makes her seek someone who treats her like garbage and she emulates her mother's door mat ways. So in a lot of ways Ejole make sense, it's just sad to watch. Not my idea of romance in the afternoon.
You bring up a good point. Nicole has always been drawn to situations that are not good for her. I guess because I am a Nicole fan I still root for her to change that? :shrug:
Of course! Just because I've had my fill of the woman, I can see the appeal to that but the ejole relationship isn't where Nicole is going to have that soul searching and hard work to accomplish that. EJ's character would have to have a major overhaul and it would destroy the essence of EJ Dimera that is alluring.
I agree. EJ's character is already taken a major hit anyways. EJ is engaged in tickle fights every other scene and giggling like a middle-school aged boy about to cop a feel. I really can't stand it. He's EJ Dimera damnit. Ugh.
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^^I remember very little about Nicole during the storline --mostly because she was in prison. I know she got out in time to do get the tape recording of Ej talking to Stefano--but I don't remember EJ talking about Nicole at that time. I could be wrong--since it was a year and a half ago--but still the focus of EJ's sure seemed to be directed at hurting Sami. As his focus seems to always be on hurting Sami.

EJ made a point to go to Brady, tell him Sydney was dead, and ask him to let Nicole know. She wasn't in town, so he couldn't truly torture her, but he did want her to suffer.

Nicole was aware of this, too: Nicole: No, what I did, I did out of grief and loss and deep, crushing pain. What you did was a cold-hearted act designed to punish me and Sami, to put us through hell actually. And all at the expense of that little girl who was taken out of her home and away from her mother, away from everything that she knew. No, EJ, what you did was a far, far worse crime than mine could ever be. And like me, now you will pay.
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Feb 1 2012, 03:01 PM
I just don't think I could ever accept Ejami as a pairing again. I don't even care about all the things Ej did to Sami, its the fact that Sami tried to blow his brains out and showed no remorse ever.


:shrug: To me, these things happen. If EJ does get back with her, he'd do well to make sure she doesn't have the combination to the gun safe though.
Yeah Ej would would always have to sleep with one eye open. For me just like some complain about Nicole's character being destroyed being paired with Ej I feel the same could be said of Ej if he went back to his attempted murderess. That's just something I can't move past.
Do you also think that EJ should have a guard on Syd's room to make sure Nicole doesn't abscond with her in the middle of the night? She's taken her or tried to at least five times now. ISTM that he'd be able to rest just as easy (or not) with Sami as he would be with Nicole. Everybody has their dealbreakers, possibly fueled by their biases. I get that, but to me the whole lot of them is messed up enough that no pairing can really be elevated above the others on the merits of how they've treated each other.
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^^I remember very little about Nicole during the storline --mostly because she was in prison. I know she got out in time to do get the tape recording of Ej talking to Stefano--but I don't remember EJ talking about Nicole at that time. I could be wrong--since it was a year and a half ago--but still the focus of EJ's sure seemed to be directed at hurting Sami. As his focus seems to always be on hurting Sami.

EJ made a point to go to Brady, tell him Sydney was dead, and ask him to let Nicole know. She wasn't in town, so he couldn't truly torture her, but he did want her to suffer.

Nicole was aware of this, too: Nicole: No, what I did, I did out of grief and loss and deep, crushing pain. What you did was a cold-hearted act designed to punish me and Sami, to put us through hell actually. And all at the expense of that little girl who was taken out of her home and away from her mother, away from everything that she knew. No, EJ, what you did was a far, far worse crime than mine could ever be. And like me, now you will pay.
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Feb 1 2012, 03:01 PM
I just don't think I could ever accept Ejami as a pairing again. I don't even care about all the things Ej did to Sami, its the fact that Sami tried to blow his brains out and showed no remorse ever.


:shrug: To me, these things happen. If EJ does get back with her, he'd do well to make sure she doesn't have the combination to the gun safe though.
Yeah Ej would would always have to sleep with one eye open. For me just like some complain about Nicole's character being destroyed being paired with Ej I feel the same could be said of Ej if he went back to his attempted murderess. That's just something I can't move past.
Do you also think that EJ should have a guard on Syd's room to make sure Nicole doesn't abscond with her in the middle of the night? She's taken her or tried to at least five times now. ISTM that he'd be able to rest just as easy (or not) with Sami as he would be with Nicole. Everybody has their dealbreakers, possibly fueled by their biases. I get that, but to me the whole lot of them is messed up enough that no pairing can really be elevated above the others on the merits of how they've treated each other.
Ej was teasing Nicole about her taking Sydney last week. They were giggling about it practically. He loves and trust her-and she has given him reason to.
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EJ's character is already taken a major hit anyways. EJ is engaged in tickle fights every other scene and giggling like a middle-school aged boy about to cop a feel. I really can't stand it. He's EJ Dimera damnit. Ugh.
If they make EJ a BLACK or a HORTON, will tickling be ok??? Because that is certainly where the storyline seems to be going. . ;)
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EJ's character is already taken a major hit anyways. EJ is engaged in tickle fights every other scene and giggling like a middle-school aged boy about to cop a feel. I really can't stand it. He's EJ Dimera damnit. Ugh.
If they make EJ a BLACK or a HORTON, will tickling be ok??? Because that is certainly where the storyline seems to be going. . ;)
I'm sure they were regarding his personality rather than his last name. EJ, when written reasonably consistent, is probably one of the last people on the list who would ever be tickling anyone. EJ and Lexie are both Dimeras but we expect something different from them based on their personalities. Same goes for Sami and Marlena.
And even if his last name did change (God help us all) it does not mean that it would be ok. Once again that goes back to personality and keeping things consistent.
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Exactly.

Actually the fact was before Lucas left town, Sami was fantasizing Lucas was EJ and was dreaming of kissing EJ in bed. That was a fact to how Lucas was written in comparison to EJ before he left for China.

Who knows what this regime will write?
To my recollection, didn't that fantasy happen in 2008? Lucas left town in 2010, it's been 4 years since that fantasy and aside from her once imagining herself in a pic instead of Nicole around Ejole's first wedding, Sami hasn't thought of Ej ever again in that way. Even when she was kissing him in 2010, she started dreaming about being with Rafe.
I wasn't speaking to EJ vs Rafe at all. I was responding to EJ vs Lucas, given that the implication in the post I was replying to was stating as a fact that as soon as Lucas is back on the scene, there will be no EJ where Sami is concerned. My point was that is not a fact and the fact was that scene had illustrated Soap 101 that Sami wanted EJ, not Lucas.

The dates and timing don't matter as I never meant to imply they happened yesterday. It's a new regime, which is why I said who knows what they will do. It certainly isn't fact what they will do.
I know what you were saying and that is why I started with what occurred and how long ago because since that time she dreamed of EJ it's a fact that she dreamed about being with Rafe instead of EJ, so I can only assume the story will come back around and shell be probably dreaming about someone else soon. I agree about the writers, we truly have heard so little about these stories going forward that they can do anything they want at this point.
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WOw, and to think this thread was dead...EJole are just that entertaining!

EJole are just not your typical soap couple that you can solely base their relationship on whether or not they are honest. He should of definitely told her about beastsex, but the more I see of them, the more I think EJole can survive this. They are soulmates! (Thanks for that line writers!)
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dream on!!!nicole will always be ej's second choice.
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