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SOD: Nicole to EJ: "Tell Me The Truth!"; 2/07/12 Issue
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Topic Started: Jan 26 2012, 02:56 PM (10,591 Views)
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You know they could STILL make a story like that about Nicole. You see let's say that Nicole is striken with cancer. She needs a bone marrow transplant to survive. Many people in Salem are reluctant to even get tested to see if they are a match because of Nicole's history. Ej is relentless in trying to find a match, even paying amounts of money to someone willing to get tested and then paying even more if they are a match. This obviously ALL would take place AFTER Nicole knows the truth and is devastated and backs away from Ejk, but he won't let that stop him and it's not even about proving his love to her, it's about doing something SELFLESS for ONCE in his miserable life. Ej decides to test his kids to see if they are matches, low and behold Sydney is a match....and then we get the reveal that she was Nicole's all along. Sure the story at that point would shift to Sami losing the child, and all, but with Sami facing an uphill battle to win over Will, I seriously don't think that it's inconceivable that she would want to do what's right by Sydney and she knows aside from their history that Nicole does love Syd. It would also be a bit of karma for Sami, she went to great lengths to hide that child and Nicole has loved her even knowing she wasn't hers. Ej having his own children tested for bone marrow matches to a slime ball like Nicole is one of the lowest things he could do. Her life is not worth the pain those kids would undergo just getting tested.
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I love all these Nicole scenarios! Esp. after the election is over, I want more for Nicole's character, than sexing it up with EJ. Pregnant, Sydole possiiblity, illness or even an attempted victim of the SSK storyline, if it comes to fruition. She provides great & believable drama....Go Nicole!!!
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Feb 1 2012, 01:39 PM
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yes,he s with her now..but im sure ej will drop her in a heartbeat if i see a chance to be with sami again!!! nicole is not fit to be a mother..she's a mess,always drinkin...blackmailin ppl...who does that??? sami is not perfect but she loves her children.. ej and sami are both in denial bout their feelings...theyre just settlin with nicole and rafe so they can have a stable relationship...NOT!!! safe sucks sooo bad!! ejole are a fuckin joke..all ej gets from nicole is sex...the only thing she's good at!
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nicole is not fit to be a mother..she's a mess,always drinkin...blackmailin ppl...who does that???
One thing I can say about Nicole is that she always spent time with Sydney even though she wasn't her biological mother. Sami, on the other hand, finds any excuse to get Caroline, Will, or Rafe to babysit her children.
IDK if keeping your hostage close is a virtue. Nicole also had a live in nanny (that the family apparently let Johnny raise, so he wouldn't be there during all the Ejoleysd moments). Sami sucks as a mom, but it's way too soon to be giving Nicole any kind of prize. I'm looking forward to the blow up and I certainly hope Nicole will dredge up enough self respect and intelligence to stop trusting untrustworthy people. At this point, EJ could beat her over the head with a stick while screaming "I'm never going to be honest with you!" and Nicole would be right back there the next week being the more naive Marlena to EJ's shady version of John. Well then I guess no woman on the show should ever be with EJ since he has never been completely honest with any of them. But the thing is, EJ has been more truthful with Nicole this time around than he has with anyone else. He told Nicole that he made a mistake and that he refuses to tell her about it. To me, that is a very big difference from just out right lying.
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Feb 1 2012, 01:40 PM
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^ Or there's an accident and Syd is hurt and find out that she needs a transplant and Nicole's her only match. Sydole is reunited and EJole strike out to find how the switch happened.
"Mystery" that was previewed for EJole! I love this--and it falls right in place with all that we have been told will happen! The mystery...Ejole going strong and of course our hope for Sydole. Now, THAT'S a Soap!!
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Feb 1 2012, 01:54 PM
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You know they could STILL make a story like that about Nicole. You see let's say that Nicole is striken with cancer. She needs a bone marrow transplant to survive. Many people in Salem are reluctant to even get tested to see if they are a match because of Nicole's history. Ej is relentless in trying to find a match, even paying amounts of money to someone willing to get tested and then paying even more if they are a match. This obviously ALL would take place AFTER Nicole knows the truth and is devastated and backs away from Ejk, but he won't let that stop him and it's not even about proving his love to her, it's about doing something SELFLESS for ONCE in his miserable life. Ej decides to test his kids to see if they are matches, low and behold Sydney is a match....and then we get the reveal that she was Nicole's all along. Sure the story at that point would shift to Sami losing the child, and all, but with Sami facing an uphill battle to win over Will, I seriously don't think that it's inconceivable that she would want to do what's right by Sydney and she knows aside from their history that Nicole does love Syd. It would also be a bit of karma for Sami, she went to great lengths to hide that child and Nicole has loved her even knowing she wasn't hers. thats a nice scenario :wub: but poor nicole!i dont want her to go all that agony to have a child..why not have a child with ej normally.or maybe nicole finds out she cant carry a child to term and ej and nicole will consider adoption.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:23 PM
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nicole is not fit to be a mother..she's a mess,always drinkin...blackmailin ppl...who does that???
One thing I can say about Nicole is that she always spent time with Sydney even though she wasn't her biological mother. Sami, on the other hand, finds any excuse to get Caroline, Will, or Rafe to babysit her children.
IDK if keeping your hostage close is a virtue. Nicole also had a live in nanny (that the family apparently let Johnny raise, so he wouldn't be there during all the Ejoleysd moments). Sami sucks as a mom, but it's way too soon to be giving Nicole any kind of prize. I'm looking forward to the blow up and I certainly hope Nicole will dredge up enough self respect and intelligence to stop trusting untrustworthy people. At this point, EJ could beat her over the head with a stick while screaming "I'm never going to be honest with you!" and Nicole would be right back there the next week being the more naive Marlena to EJ's shady version of John.
Well then I guess no woman on the show should ever be with EJ since he has never been completely honest with any of them. But the thing is, EJ has been more truthful with Nicole this time around than he has with anyone else. He told Nicole that he made a mistake and that he refuses to tell her about it. To me, that is a very big difference from just out right lying. Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted Image Let EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
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Feb 1 2012, 02:25 PM
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nicole is not fit to be a mother..she's a mess,always drinkin...blackmailin ppl...who does that???
One thing I can say about Nicole is that she always spent time with Sydney even though she wasn't her biological mother. Sami, on the other hand, finds any excuse to get Caroline, Will, or Rafe to babysit her children.
IDK if keeping your hostage close is a virtue. Nicole also had a live in nanny (that the family apparently let Johnny raise, so he wouldn't be there during all the Ejoleysd moments). Sami sucks as a mom, but it's way too soon to be giving Nicole any kind of prize. I'm looking forward to the blow up and I certainly hope Nicole will dredge up enough self respect and intelligence to stop trusting untrustworthy people. At this point, EJ could beat her over the head with a stick while screaming "I'm never going to be honest with you!" and Nicole would be right back there the next week being the more naive Marlena to EJ's shady version of John.
Well then I guess no woman on the show should ever be with EJ since he has never been completely honest with any of them. But the thing is, EJ has been more truthful with Nicole this time around than he has with anyone else. He told Nicole that he made a mistake and that he refuses to tell her about it. To me, that is a very big difference from just out right lying. People can be with EJ. They should just be aware enough of who he is to know he's a liar. Just like if Nicole tells a guy she's carrying his baby, he should insist on regularly seeing her bare belly. You know, learning from the past FTW.
I don't think admitting you did something wrong but keeping it quiet is really any better than pretending you didn't do anything wrong.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:34 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepbiological mother. Sami, on the other hand, finds any excuse to get Caroline, Will, or Rafe to babysit her children.
IDK if keeping your hostage close is a virtue. Nicole also had a live in nanny (that the family apparently let Johnny raise, so he wouldn't be there during all the Ejoleysd moments). Sami sucks as a mom, but it's way too soon to be giving Nicole any kind of prize. I'm looking forward to the blow up and I certainly hope Nicole will dredge up enough self respect and intelligence to stop trusting untrustworthy people. At this point, EJ could beat her over the head with a stick while screaming "I'm never going to be honest with you!" and Nicole would be right back there the next week being the more naive Marlena to EJ's shady version of John.
Well then I guess no woman on the show should ever be with EJ since he has never been completely honest with any of them. But the thing is, EJ has been more truthful with Nicole this time around than he has with anyone else. He told Nicole that he made a mistake and that he refuses to tell her about it. To me, that is a very big difference from just out right lying.
Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING! I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? Or because Nicole brought Sydney in contact with the kidnapper by taking her from ejami and to Chicago where she was taken? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:42 PM
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The beast has never really bonded with Sidney so I dont think she would be crushed if Nicole was her real mother. She might even say deep down she knew and couldnt get close to Sidney. maybe the beast could actually pay some attention to Allie. Her real daughter. That child has been ignored for far too long.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:43 PM
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Well then I guess no woman on the show should ever be with EJ since he has never been completely honest with any of them. But the thing is, EJ has been more truthful with Nicole this time around than he has with anyone else. He told Nicole that he made a mistake and that he refuses to tell her about it. To me, that is a very big difference from just out right lying.
Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole. Nicole forgave EJ and fell back in love with him--Sami has never forgave him. Ej hasn't forgiven Sami for anything either. Ej and Nicole have an understanding of each other that Sami will never have with him.
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Well then I guess no woman on the show should ever be with EJ since he has never been completely honest with any of them. But the thing is, EJ has been more truthful with Nicole this time around than he has with anyone else. He told Nicole that he made a mistake and that he refuses to tell her about it. To me, that is a very big difference from just out right lying.
Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole. Well didn't he do it to get revenge on Sami? Yeah Nicole loved the little girl too, but I think the point Vicky was trying to make is that he did it to punish Sami. Nicole's punishment was jail time.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
Nicole forgave EJ and fell back in love with him--Sami has never forgave him. Ej hasn't forgiven Sami for anything either. Ej and Nicole have an understanding of each other that Sami will never have with him. Unless the writers opt to have Sami and EJ forgive one another - as they've done with other things in the past.
It just takes the stroke of a pen and every single story (not just the EJami/EJole/Safe/Lumi merry go round) can be turned on a dime. We see it happen all the time. Just ask the Jack & Jen fans what the hell has happened to Jennifer. :laugh:
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Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
Well didn't he do it to get revenge on Sami? Yeah Nicole loved the little girl too, but I think the point Vicky was trying to make is that he did it to punish Sami. Nicole's punishment was jail time. Yes he admits he was trying to punish SAMI in the worse way possible. I don't think punishing Nicole was even on his mind at that time. Nicole did give him his daughter while Sami was risking life and limb to keep his daughter from him. Sami and EJ use the children as pawns to hurt each other--which is something Nicole has never done to EJ and I don't think EJ has done it to Nicole. I remember he was letting Nicole spend time with Sydney just because he knew how much Nic loved her during the time he had custody (after the shooting).
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
Well didn't he do it to get revenge on Sami? Yeah Nicole loved the little girl too, but I think the point Vicky was trying to make is that he did it to punish Sami. Nicole's punishment was jail time. EJ was quite clear when he talked about it that he did it to get revenge on everyone he felt betrayed by - specifically Stefano, Nicole and Sami.
The only one he seemed to feel remorse for hurting with it was Sami.
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Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
Well didn't he do it to get revenge on Sami? Yeah Nicole loved the little girl too, but I think the point Vicky was trying to make is that he did it to punish Sami. Nicole's punishment was jail time. I agree. Nicole is spineless enough to see her pain incurred by Operation Fake Syd's Death to Punish Sami as collateral damage. It was all good.
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Oh of course Ej has been more truthful with Nicole than he has Sami!!! No doubt about it. His truths will come back and bite him--as always--but I don't think the fact that he slept with Sami while and he Nicole were on a break will be anywhere near as bad as this reveal was... Posted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
Nicole forgave EJ and fell back in love with him--Sami has never forgave him. Ej hasn't forgiven Sami for anything either. Ej and Nicole have an understanding of each other that Sami will never have with him. Sydney wouldn't exist if Sami never forgave EJ for anything and the Rafe would never have had to come to the wedding with a CD if EJ never forgave Sami for anything, but honestly I don't know what all that has to do with the situation at hand. EJ has hurt Nicole and he's hurt Sami. Both of them have hurt him, but that doesn't change the fact that this: "Let EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole" has already happened. At the same time it happened to Sami. Because it was the exact same event.It's either that, or that Nicole really doesn't love Sydney as her own after all, because it can't be both.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:54 PM
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Unless the writers opt to have Sami and EJ forgive one another - as they've done with other things in the past.
It just takes the stroke of a pen and every single story (not just the EJami/EJole/Safe/Lumi merry go round) can be turned on a dime. We see it happen all the time. Just ask the Jack & Jen fans what the hell has happened to Jennifer.
of course the stroke of the pen could have Ej and Sami forgive each other. BUT right now the pen is having Ej being hopelessly in love with Nicole--and she is writen to return those feelings. I think the writers realize that is where the good story is with EJ. With Sami-they would have to write him as the ruthless non loving man that has grown tiresome to watch. The show seems to be going with the man in love that we see now which much more tolerable to watch. EJ is ONLY good with Nicole...away from Nicole he is FF material.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:55 PM
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep biological motherPosted ImageLet EJ do something as horrible as what's on that CD to Nicole--then we will talk about UNFORGIVING!
I'm sorry. Really? Nicole thought Sydney was dead too. How can you argue on one hand that Nicole loves Syd as her own and sydole should exist etc. etc. while simultaneously arguing that what EJ did by faking Sydney's death didn't crush Nicole just as hard as it did Sami? Actually, shouldn't it have hurt her even more, since Nicole loves Syd and Sami sees her as another piece in her collection, as we've been told? And since Sami barely knew Sydney and Nicole had all those memories with the child she thought was dead in a river? EJ's plot got revenge on Sami, Stefano and Nicole.
Well didn't he do it to get revenge on Sami? Yeah Nicole loved the little girl too, but I think the point Vicky was trying to make is that he did it to punish Sami. Nicole's punishment was jail time.
EJ was quite clear when he talked about it that he did it to get revenge on everyone he felt betrayed by - specifically Stefano, Nicole and Sami. The only one he seemed to feel remorse for hurting with it was Sami. Well it came across that he was mostly trying to hurt Sami Yeah he mentioned Stefano and Nicole as well. But his focus was on destroying Sami until the writers turned him into a schmoopy idiot. I still shake my head when I think about that waste of a storyline. :shame:
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Feb 1 2012, 03:01 PM
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^^I remember very little about Nicole during the storline --mostly because she was in prison. I know she got out in time to do get the tape recording of Ej talking to Stefano--but I don't remember EJ talking about Nicole at that time. I could be wrong--since it was a year and a half ago--but still the focus of EJ's sure seemed to be directed at hurting Sami. As his focus seems to always be on hurting Sami.
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