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| SOD & SOW: Jack and Jen Clash/ More Drama For Abigail; 2/07/12 Issues | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 26 2012, 03:13 PM (8,424 Views) | |
| Dreamer | Jan 26 2012, 06:42 PM Post #41 |
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This spoilers reveal is not a shock. I see no reason for Jennifer to suddenly change her behaviour, especially with Daniel gone. She is more confused and angry than before, except she is now deflecting on to others. Starting with the Nicole spat and now her opposition to Abby's career choice, although extreme and is very confusing, especially considering her teenage years. I do not think this issue will used against Jack, as an I told you so, especially when a larger issue is looming with Abby's secret crush on Austin. Having Jack opening his mind to possibilities and providing understanding to Abby is a perfect scenario, creating issues between Jack and Jen. Again, this is another role reversal for Jack and Jen, usually we see an optimistic Jennifer, trying to get Jack to be more open and understanding of new ideas and new things. I love this idea. I have been waiting for Abby and Jack to grow close again, become family, all while Jen is in a world far away them. Jennifer's lunacy and overreaction of this situation is bound to cause question to her mental state. Perhaps the stress of the past year has been too much for her. Losing Alice, her closest confident and mother figure, Jack leaving again for story/walkabout, her foolishly beliefs about his abandonment and adventures, Hope's crazy SL, being on the run and jail time, divorcing Jack, almost death experience with losing her heart (physically), revamping her low self esteem to enter the dating scene, finding her way into a new relationship that she was clearly not ready for and having Jack return, only to make her face mistakes and misjudgements, is more than enough for TPTB to develop a huge fall for Jennifer Rose Horton. Just as much as I want to watch Sami fall this Feb sweeps, I think Jen is slowly heading for an OOC SL very soon.
Edited by Dreamer, Jan 26 2012, 08:45 PM.
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| LanaluvsBroe | Jan 26 2012, 06:56 PM Post #42 |
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I like the way you think. Perhaps we're not giving the writers enough credit? ;) If Jennifer does end up having a breakdown somewhere down the line, I hope they bring Laura back to help her. Edited by LanaluvsBroe, Jan 26 2012, 07:00 PM.
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| ChampagneRiver | Jan 26 2012, 07:19 PM Post #43 |
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I HOPE Jennifer's OOC behavior is setting her up to take a big fall and finally face up to her own emotional and psychological issues... :hail: but honestly, I'm AFRAID it's just more contrived, plot point writing designed to whip up some phony conflict between Jack and Jennifer. :hmmph: Time will tell whether it's my hopes or my fears that will be realized. |
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| AHM | Jan 26 2012, 08:44 PM Post #44 |
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What I'm gleaning from this is that Jack will be on next week. So yay! And I have been wanting more father/daughter stuff with Jack and Abby, and I like the idea of seeing Jack/Jennifer parenting together, even if they do disagree. |
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| rockchic | Jan 26 2012, 08:56 PM Post #45 |
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I really wish Days would separate Jack from this anchor around his neck! This is absolutely nothing like the Jack and Jen that made me a days fan. |
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| Angie79 | Jan 26 2012, 09:16 PM Post #46 |
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SOW:More Drama For Abigail Abigail's week begins on a high note: She discovers there is trouble in Austin and Carrie's marriage. She arrives at Austin's office and realizes it's where he spent the night. "If things were all great and happy at home for Austin, he would be spending so much time with Abigail," reasons Kate Mansi. "It's the fuel for Abigail thinking that Austin has feelings for her. When she sees that things are getting worse between Austin and Carrie, she thinks it could be an opening for her." The two head to breakfast. Carrie spies them together and jumps to the wrong conclusion. "I think because Carrie and Austin's relationship is in such turmoil, she's making assumptions that she wouldn't normally make," voices Mansi. "They reassure Carrie that nothing is going on." Later, Abigail reveals to Jen and Jack that Madison has offered her a position to model at Mad World. Jen thinks it's a bad idea because it might interfere with Abigail's college studies. "Abigail fights to model because she thinks it will make her feel like she isn't a little kid anymore, " explains Mansi. "Abigail is insistent on modeling, and her mom won't have it. So it becomes a big dispute." Jack steps in and stands up for his daughter. "Jennifer seems to respond out of fear," Matthew Ashford points out. "She paints a very broad brush and comes up with all the worst things that could happen. I think Jack is a little more distanced from it. It also hits Jack that Abigail is not just his little girl anymore; she's become a woman. He realizes that maybe to hold on to Abigail, he has to let her go. He understands that life is full of fears and dangers and that he can't let fear be the guiding force in his relationship with Abigail." Meanwhile, Abigail appreciates her dad's efforts. "It's unexpected," explains Mansi. "She's happy that Jack is supportive and is giving her mom a different perspective. It's an interesting position for Jack, who has been gone for so long, to take the lead as a father." |
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| Dreamer | Jan 26 2012, 10:05 PM Post #47 |
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Jennifer kicking Abby out of the house, if she models for Mad World is just another plot point, to get Jen completely isolated from her family. Jennifer is slowly going to spiral OOC.... all these things need to happen before she hits rock bottom. |
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| LanaluvsBroe | Jan 26 2012, 10:38 PM Post #48 |
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What's your take on a possible marriage proposal from Daniel? Do you think Jennifer would accept? |
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| annie21 | Jan 26 2012, 10:49 PM Post #49 |
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I wasn't bothered by KM's quote (in bold). Ever since Jack returned, he's been trying to work his way back in. But it's been awkward to assert himself with either Jennifer or Abigail because they always snap back with "You left; you weren't here. Thus, you have no right to start acting like a father now." So for him to take a stand on this matter is a big step for him. It means he's getting more comfortable stepping back into his role as being the "lead" of the family. I like it! I also like Matt's take on Jack's actions. Jack isn't Jennifer's adversary; he's slipping back into being her mentor, helping to curb her tendency to overreact much in the way he used to (along with Alice and Jo and Mike and Vern.) If he acts like he did after he dragged her away from Nicole -- pointing out the errors in her thinking while bolstering her and supporting her as a mother -- then I'm fine with that. As for the rest, I agree with most of the comments here about Jennifer's OOC behavior. It's getting more and more obvious and untenable by the day. Dreamer, I agree with your list of all the reasons why Jennifer would be ready to just lose it. In fact, I've been saying for a while now that Jennifer could have her own PTSD story. For one thing, she never really dealt with the aftermath of being kidnapped and having her heart ripped out by thieves. Maybe that is where the writers are headed in their random and meandering way. If that's in fact what they're doing, I wish they could clue Missy in on their plans, because her interview responses are not indicating that at all. She's not saying anything about this being an opportunity for Jennifer to deal with some unresolved issues. But, oh, how I wish she would. |
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| Aldo | Jan 26 2012, 10:57 PM Post #50 |
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Of course Carrie, and the next day you're sucking face with Rafe. :makeout: |
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| jackjenfan | Jan 26 2012, 11:34 PM Post #51 |
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I'm glad to see Jack stand up to Jennifer about something. Hopefully the state of their non-relationship is next. Abigail is a grown up who can make her own choices. If Jennifer wants to wag a finger in Abby's face, she needs to get to know her daughter a little better and find out about her thing for Austin. At least Jack's trying to be there for Abby. Jennifer is only there when old Danny poo doesn't need patting. |
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| annie21 | Jan 26 2012, 11:39 PM Post #52 |
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I hope in all this talk about Abigail's abode, we get to find out where Jack has been staying. Matt joked in an interview that Jack was living in Grandpa Tom's Oldsmobile in the Horton driveway. So maybe Abby could move in with him (one gets the front seat, one gets the back.) Seriously, I wish Jack was staying with Justin and Adrienne. Even if we don't see them (although we should), it would be nice to at least imagine that he's with his family. |
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| MyHappyEnding | Jan 26 2012, 11:40 PM Post #53 |
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Oh yeah, Jennifer's in for a big big fall. She's going to end up in the position Jack was when he returned. |
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| niki51586 | Jan 26 2012, 11:45 PM Post #54 |
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I agree with all of you that Jnenifer is acting way OOC and I would love for her to fall like the rest of you but I do fear a little bit that when she hits rock bottom everyone including Jack will be there for her and that would just irk me after the way Jack has been treated. If it wasn't for MR's comments the last few months I would assume that the writing for Jennifer has been on purpose. I remember that those flashback clips before the reset where supposed to be "clues" and I did find it interesting they used John and Marlena reuniting and their wedding vows which could have been hinting towards John getting out of the Madoff stuff and reuniting with Marlena who promised to stick by him no matter what. Then you had the J&J scene where Jack tells her he got them into this mess and he will get them out. Technically this and by that I mean Jennifer's out of control, out of character behavior all started with Jack's lie so maybe they are setting it up so that he gets them both to a better place. I know, I know giving the writer's to much credit, I guess that's what the vet episode will do to you ;) |
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| Dreamer | Jan 26 2012, 11:52 PM Post #55 |
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OMG, I never considered that Jen would have her own PTSD from her Heart Ripper -Kidnapping SL. It is possible that she is shutting down, in fear of dealing with it and of course not wanting to talk and admit it to anyone else, let alone Jack. She probably doesn't want to burden him with her own trauma. This idea is way too high level for TPTB, it would be a very uncanny parallel for Jack and Jen to go done the same road of much needed support and recovery. Funny, how this heart-ripping thing hasn't been brought up, in like forever, almost as if everyone has forgotten about it. Still wondering if Jack actually knows. You know, Jen recovered from that way too soon, it was a stupid SL that was rushed liked hell. Edited by Dreamer, Jan 27 2012, 12:32 AM.
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| happy | Jan 27 2012, 12:19 AM Post #56 |
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Cracks me up that the interview only has MA and KM. Maybe the TPTB finally got the memo that MR really sucks at interviews. :lol: |
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| Dreamer | Jan 27 2012, 12:31 AM Post #57 |
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LanaluvsBroe, I considered this thought in a previous post and will elaborate here. It may in fact be a possibility if TPTB want to go in that direction. As sickening as it would be to admit and watch, It would create the most drama for all those involved. I think many viewers want to see them wed, out of SL satisfaction and hate for the 2 of them. Jen would only marry Dan in a spiraling, OOC, desperate measure, not to be alone. I honestly can't see Daniel asking Jennifer to marry him, considering he knows the 2 of them (JnJ) share a deep and special connection and he would always wonder if she was truly over him. If he is a dumb as Austin, or comes back psycho, then maybe. On the other hand, I could see Jennifer asking Daniel for his hand in marriage. As a final act of desperation, as Jen's world comes crashing down upon her, failed marriage, blowup and loss of Abby, Campaign bust---what ever it is that happens, she has no where to turn, accept to the good old Doc. He was there for her once before, Heart-ripping-fixing SL, so her emotional attachment to him over this, still exists and she thinks he can save her again. Jen's emotional fixation on Daniel and disregard for almost everyone else is apparent to all viewers, and it would be neat if TPTB give reason to her unrecognizable behavior. **you gotta read Annie21 & My discussion over Jen's possible PSTD,** So, again, I would have to say, that Daniel heals himself while away on his Austrialian walkabout and is able to reject her proposal, knowing that things are not quite right. Really what purpose would a Daniel and Jennifer wedding serve? There would really be no story to tell, unless he manipulates her or she pines over Jack. They don't need to get married for this to happen. TPTB might want to piss off the fans, and it would do absolutely nothing to redeem Jennifer, and at this point, I think MR has had as much bashing as she can take. Jennifer doesn't need anymore clashing or blowouts, but I guess TIIC are going to have to run it into the ground before we see chance for change. Edited by Dreamer, Jan 27 2012, 01:42 AM.
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| happy | Jan 27 2012, 01:26 AM Post #58 |
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I hope Jennifer would accept, and they could leave Salem together! I have mixed feelings about this article about Jack/Abigail. Glad that Jack/Abigail will be on the same side of this argument - but it still irks me that we are supposed to accept that Abigail has long/deep seated feelings of abandonment concerning her father. KM has bought this revisionist history, because that's all she knows. I was so annoyed when her Abigail was complaining to Chad that her father had no interest in an article she wrote as a child. Ever since Abigail was a baby, Jack has doted on his daughter. Abigail was always a daddy's girl and she shouldn't have any daddy issues that need to be dealt with via Austin. Yuck. Why do soaps re-write history rather than drawing from it?! |
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| NocturnalBlondie | Jan 27 2012, 01:30 AM Post #59 |
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LOL! That is true! :P |
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| sals4 | Jan 27 2012, 04:45 AM Post #60 |
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If written well, I wouldn't be opposed to a Dannifer wedding. Something new we haven't seen before. It would be interesting to see how Jack reacts to this..second...Finally the f****** heartache over being separated from one another is over...then they'll be pretty much STUCK together. Let them and their fans basque in boredom. Finally it would mean that Jack is free and we can finally see him live his life and interact with other characters..possibly find a love interest of his own. SOOO over jack and Jenn. |
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