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SOD: Sami catches Rafe and Carrie kissing!; 02/07/12 Issue
Topic Started: Jan 26 2012, 03:21 PM (11,837 Views)
lene
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This sounds like shit.. but I'm glad Sami/Rafe and Austin/Carrie seem to be ending! :D
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Jan 26 2012, 07:19 PM
I'm ok with Rafe and Carrie getting closer before the big Sami/EJ reveal as long as they don't have sex. I think it actually makes things worse for Sami as she will give Rafe and Carrie alot of hell about this and then what she did comes out and she loses that moral high ground she tries to pretend she has.

My issue, however, is I hate what this is doing to Rafe and Carrie. They should be fighting this more. I get they have marital issues but there just hasn't been enough time and enough reason for them to go from the bonding and flirtation stage to what is about to happen. My hope is that Rafe and Carrie make more of an effort to nip this in the bud and avoid each other after this because at least then it will help both characters alot and show them trying to put a stop to what is going on. Nothing more should happen with them until after the big reveal.
Carrie and Rafe getting closer before the reveal is what I have against this whole situation. IMO, it's not alright just so they don't have sex before. Both of them are married, and they are cheating on their spouses with their hugging and passionately kissing. Rafe has always been portrayed on this show as a stand up guy who loves Sami and only Sami. Even when he has had the chance to look, he hasn't even almost given another woman a second look. Now, he's hugging and kissing his SIL and because they're having marital issues now, it's ok?

Nothing, IMO, should have happened with Rafe and Carrie until after the reveal-- not a hug or a kiss or leering looks across the office. They should have each kept their distance, worked together, enjoyed each other, been friendly as in-laws, but that's it. Then the situation would have fit Rafe's character and been a lot more believable.

If Rafe would have remained the true, faithful man we have known him as until he found out about the ejamicouchsex, it would have made that reveal a lot more powerful. Now, it won't be because he has cheated, too. It's obvious the writers wanted to hurry these scenes along to make sure the playing field between Sami and Rafe was leveled.

I honestly don't believe Carrie and Rafe are going to stay away from each other until the reveal. Whether or not they actually have sex or not before is up for grabs, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Jan 26 2012, 09:16 PM
This sounds like shit.. but I'm glad Sami/Rafe and Austin/Carrie seem to be ending! :D
As was said earlier in this thread, they aren't ending. This is just all a contrived plot to cause another sister vs sister fight with Sami and Carrie. It's the same exact thing that has happened so many times before with these two. Carrie always ends up with Austin and Sami ends up back with her guy. It's old and so overdone. Only difference this time is that Mardar has managed to destroy several characters along the way. Thanks Mardar. You're the best. :sarcasm:
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magicsteacher
Jan 26 2012, 10:16 PM
lene
Jan 26 2012, 09:16 PM
This sounds like shit.. but I'm glad Sami/Rafe and Austin/Carrie seem to be ending! :D
As was said earlier in this thread, they aren't ending. This is just all a contrived plot to cause another sister vs sister fight with Sami and Carrie. It's the same exact thing that has happened so many times before with these two. Carrie always ends up with Austin and Sami ends up back with her guy. It's old and so overdone. Only difference this time is that Mardar has managed to destroy several characters along the way. Thanks Mardar. You're the best. :sarcasm:
I agree that Carrie always ends up back with Austin - but not that Sami ends up back with 'her guy'. Sami, historically, ended up alone after these battles played out. And then she'd set her sights on the next scheme or plot and we were off again. I suspect this time won't be any different - even if Carrie and Austin reunite Sami will be on to another hot mess...probably a triangle that involves Lucas and whoever.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

I don`t care if Rafe was sleeping with Melanie, just keep him away from Sami.
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Looking forward to this! While I always enjoyed Austin & Carrie, I really love the chemistry between Christie Clark and Galen Gering, so I'm super excited for this Cafe development. :cheer: I cannot stand Rafe with Sami, so anything to get him away from her is fine by me. Awesome! Can't wait for this to air! :biggrin:
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Jan 26 2012, 03:41 PM
This is just what I was afraid of. As usual Beast gets a pass for her actions. She is never allowed to fall flat on her face like other characters. I don't like Safe at all, but I'm so annoyed that Cafe are happening before the reveal. I'm guessing AS went to KC since her character was getting a lot of heat and got things changed so as usual Sami will get a pass like she always does. Another reason why I never get invested in any of AS's stories. It's hard to like a character who does horrible things yet rarely if ever has to suffer for the consequences of her actions. I can relate to someone who does something bad and has to suffer for it which is pretty much the reason why I can't relate to Sami. It's always someone else's fault or someone else is to blame. It's just the sane old repeated cycle over and over.
Just like Nicole and EJ....hmmm?
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Jan 26 2012, 11:38 PM
magicsteacher
Jan 26 2012, 10:16 PM
lene
Jan 26 2012, 09:16 PM
This sounds like shit.. but I'm glad Sami/Rafe and Austin/Carrie seem to be ending! :D
As was said earlier in this thread, they aren't ending. This is just all a contrived plot to cause another sister vs sister fight with Sami and Carrie. It's the same exact thing that has happened so many times before with these two. Carrie always ends up with Austin and Sami ends up back with her guy. It's old and so overdone. Only difference this time is that Mardar has managed to destroy several characters along the way. Thanks Mardar. You're the best. :sarcasm:
I agree that Carrie always ends up back with Austin - but not that Sami ends up back with 'her guy'. Sami, historically, ended up alone after these battles played out. And then she'd set her sights on the next scheme or plot and we were off again. I suspect this time won't be any different - even if Carrie and Austin reunite Sami will be on to another hot mess...probably a triangle that involves Lucas and whoever.
And I am betting that "whoever" is Rafe. I have no doubt in my mind that they are going for an eventual Lumi/Safe triangle. Why else have Rafe cheat before the reveal? They could have kept him as a true to Sami guy til he found out about the reveal and then cheated with Carrie. It would have changed the outcome of things immensely.
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Jan 26 2012, 03:44 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :yahoo:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :yahoo:


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :yahoo:

I may be in the minority but what else is new? :P I love this! Now the only thing I need is for for them to hit the sheets.

Do I care about Austin? NOPE

Do I care about Safe marriage? NOPE

Do I care about Sami? :huh: Please the day I care for her, would be the day that I will stop rooting for Ej......NEVER!

thanks so much for posting!

Lol! Guess I'm in the minority too because I love everything about this. Yea, it couldve gone two ways....Rafe could've found out first but he wasn't screwing her. It was a kiss. Actually, I think it may be better this way because Sami will make a total fool of herself with Rafe, he will feel horrible. Then when her skank secret comes out, her ass will be so far under the bus like never before. Pop the popcorn and dim the lights baby! I'm all about this!! :)
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Jan 27 2012, 10:51 AM
JamesScott_19
Jan 26 2012, 03:44 PM
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :yahoo:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :yahoo:


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :yahoo:

I may be in the minority but what else is new? :P I love this! Now the only thing I need is for for them to hit the sheets.

Do I care about Austin? NOPE

Do I care about Safe marriage? NOPE

Do I care about Sami? :huh: Please the day I care for her, would be the day that I will stop rooting for Ej......NEVER!

thanks so much for posting!

Lol! Guess I'm in the minority too because I love everything about this. Yea, it couldve gone two ways....Rafe could've found out first but he wasn't screwing her. It was a kiss. Actually, I think it may be better this way because Sami will make a total fool of herself with Rafe, he will feel horrible. Then when her skank secret comes out, her ass will be so far under the bus like never before. Pop the popcorn and dim the lights baby! I'm all about this!! :)
Well, so far it's a kiss and not just one kiss, but two, and AS said the second one was quite passionate. Even if it is only kissing and hugging, it's cheating when you're married-- at least in my book. I have a feeling thing will continue to heat up between Carrie and Rafe and sex or darn close before the reveal wouldn't surprise me
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magicsteacher
Jan 27 2012, 10:08 AM
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Jan 26 2012, 11:38 PM
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Jan 26 2012, 10:16 PM
lene
Jan 26 2012, 09:16 PM
This sounds like shit.. but I'm glad Sami/Rafe and Austin/Carrie seem to be ending! :D
As was said earlier in this thread, they aren't ending. This is just all a contrived plot to cause another sister vs sister fight with Sami and Carrie. It's the same exact thing that has happened so many times before with these two. Carrie always ends up with Austin and Sami ends up back with her guy. It's old and so overdone. Only difference this time is that Mardar has managed to destroy several characters along the way. Thanks Mardar. You're the best. :sarcasm:
I agree that Carrie always ends up back with Austin - but not that Sami ends up back with 'her guy'. Sami, historically, ended up alone after these battles played out. And then she'd set her sights on the next scheme or plot and we were off again. I suspect this time won't be any different - even if Carrie and Austin reunite Sami will be on to another hot mess...probably a triangle that involves Lucas and whoever.
And I am betting that "whoever" is Rafe. I have no doubt in my mind that they are going for an eventual Lumi/Safe triangle. Why else have Rafe cheat before the reveal? They could have kept him as a true to Sami guy til he found out about the reveal and then cheated with Carrie. It would have changed the outcome of things immensely.
Maybe. But if the intent is to de-martyrize Sami then I don't really see Safe being a viable conflict to Lumi. Sami - while with Rafe - has been a very different character than she was with any other previous partner. I think one of the reasons I've disliked the Safe/EJami triangle so much is the writing was so intent on making everything very black and white - EJ is the evil DiMera, Rafe is the white knight and Sami was the poor damsel in distress. I don't really see that playing out with Lucas - he's not completely evil or heroic so if there is a revisit of Lumi the alternate choice for Sami doesn't seem likely to be Rafe.

I think it could depend on what happens with Carrie and Austin. If the rumors of Austin being killed off come to pass I could see Carrie and Rafe ending up together - likely off screen.
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I agree that Carrie always ends up back with Austin - but not that Sami ends up back with 'her guy'. Sami, historically, ended up alone after these battles played out. And then she'd set her sights on the next scheme or plot and we were off again. I suspect this time won't be any different - even if Carrie and Austin reunite Sami will be on to another hot mess...probably a triangle that involves Lucas and whoever.
And I am betting that "whoever" is Rafe. I have no doubt in my mind that they are going for an eventual Lumi/Safe triangle. Why else have Rafe cheat before the reveal? They could have kept him as a true to Sami guy til he found out about the reveal and then cheated with Carrie. It would have changed the outcome of things immensely.
Maybe. But if the intent is to de-martyrize Sami then I don't really see Safe being a viable conflict to Lumi. Sami - while with Rafe - has been a very different character than she was with any other previous partner. I think one of the reasons I've disliked the Safe/EJami triangle so much is the writing was so intent on making everything very black and white - EJ is the evil DiMera, Rafe is the white knight and Sami was the poor damsel in distress. I don't really see that playing out with Lucas - he's not completely evil or heroic so if there is a revisit of Lumi the alternate choice for Sami doesn't seem likely to be Rafe.

I think it could depend on what happens with Carrie and Austin. If the rumors of Austin being killed off come to pass I could see Carrie and Rafe ending up together - likely off screen.
What you outlined as the problem for the SAFE EJAMI triangle is EXACTLY why they should have done a SAFE LUMI triangle all along and it seems more plausible that it will happen now or let me say after Rafe is done being interloper to CAUSTIN. They will have two guys who truly love Sami and she loves back allowing her to really be TORN something that was missing in both the EJAMILUMI and SAFE EJAMI triangles. If Rafe was to actually move on from Sami they wouldn't have to have him sleep with her sister to lessen what Sami did though I do understand why they had to Sami is unrootable and now they are evening the score with Rafe. Sami never loses her guy to her sister she LET Carrie have Lucas because she loved him and she may let Rafe go too thinking he is to good for her but guess what?, they all come back to her and want her no matter if he thinks "Carrie is so great" or will act harsh because that will have been done out of hurt see Lucas and yes the way they are writing Rafe to fit the plot see Rafe but all bets will be off when little miss "perfect" cheats and you say he doesn't now the real Sami, oh, I think he does shooting someone in the head and being okay with it, scheming in the SAFEhouseetc Plus she did tell him all about her past. The only difference now is her lies will directly hurt Rafe but he does now and this is being done to make no doubt that this is what REAL Sami does hurts the men she loves the most. Which is a fault he will not see as cute after the reveal but they are placing them on an even playing field and not that I thought Rafe was ever "perfect" but this is being done to show no doubt that he is indeed imperfect too. So Then you have three imperfect people who all love each other and want the best for each other above all else like in the JARLENA ROLENA triangle and if the PTB wanted to make any comparison of Sami and Marlena THAT would be the best triangle combo that illustrates similarity btwn JARLENA's affair. is if they had Sami sleep with Lucas or Rafe depending on how they chose to play it. in a triangle ultimately and all stories ALWAYS go back to who else but Sami. Who they ultimately choose for Sami's affections is on them but it's not over by a long shot. If they were Rafe would have been paried with anyone BUT Carrie. Which would show they were serious about him moving on. The SAFE LUMI comparison also fits better with the JARLENA and Rolena triangle too.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jan 27 2012, 12:43 PM.
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Jan 26 2012, 09:16 PM
This sounds like shit.. but I'm glad Sami/Rafe and Austin/Carrie seem to be ending! :D
As was said earlier in this thread, they aren't ending. This is just all a contrived plot to cause another sister vs sister fight with Sami and Carrie. It's the same exact thing that has happened so many times before with these two. Carrie always ends up with Austin and Sami ends up back with her guy. It's old and so overdone. Only difference this time is that Mardar has managed to destroy several characters along the way. Thanks Mardar. You're the best. :sarcasm:
I agree that Carrie always ends up back with Austin - but not that Sami ends up back with 'her guy'. Sami, historically, ended up alone after these battles played out. And then she'd set her sights on the next scheme or plot and we were off again. I suspect this time won't be any different - even if Carrie and Austin reunite Sami will be on to another hot mess...probably a triangle that involves Lucas and whoever.
And I am betting that "whoever" is Rafe. I have no doubt in my mind that they are going for an eventual Lumi/Safe triangle. Why else have Rafe cheat before the reveal? They could have kept him as a true to Sami guy til he found out about the reveal and then cheated with Carrie. It would have changed the outcome of things immensely.
I bet right there with you!! We will get the Safe/Lumi triangle that we (well some of us) have begged for!!! Rafe has to kiss "it" to get kicked off his white horse..just a wee little bit--but he gets back up there and saves Sami when her world falls apart--as her son is turning his back on her and she is losing her job (and maybe 'lets hope' loses SYDNEY to Nicole). Rafe will be trying to put her back together--when Lucas walks in and says "That's not how you do it, Rafe" and Rafe says "I think I know best, stranger.." and he says "I'm no STRANGER--I'm Lucas Horton the be all end all.."
You know what I mean......It's going to be Rafe vs Lucas--the two men who have loved Sami the most--loved her with all their hearts and souls --both thinking they are best for her----


And Lucas wins.. :popcorn: But it will be a world of enjoyment for me to watch!!
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And I am betting that "whoever" is Rafe. I have no doubt in my mind that they are going for an eventual Lumi/Safe triangle. Why else have Rafe cheat before the reveal? They could have kept him as a true to Sami guy til he found out about the reveal and then cheated with Carrie. It would have changed the outcome of things immensely.
Maybe. But if the intent is to de-martyrize Sami then I don't really see Safe being a viable conflict to Lumi. Sami - while with Rafe - has been a very different character than she was with any other previous partner. I think one of the reasons I've disliked the Safe/EJami triangle so much is the writing was so intent on making everything very black and white - EJ is the evil DiMera, Rafe is the white knight and Sami was the poor damsel in distress. I don't really see that playing out with Lucas - he's not completely evil or heroic so if there is a revisit of Lumi the alternate choice for Sami doesn't seem likely to be Rafe.

I think it could depend on what happens with Carrie and Austin. If the rumors of Austin being killed off come to pass I could see Carrie and Rafe ending up together - likely off screen.
What you oulined as the problem for the SAFE EJAMI triangle is EXACTLY why they should have done s SAFE LUMI triangle all along and it seems more plausible that it will happen now or let me say after Rafe is done being interloper to CAUSTIN. They will have two guys who truly love Sami and she loves back allowing her to really be TORN something that was missing in both the SAFELUMI and SAFE EJAMI triangles. If Rafe was to actually move on from Sami they wouldn't have to have him sleep with her sister to lessen what Sami did though I do understand why they had to Sami is unrootable and now they are evening the score with Rafe and Sami never loses her guy to her sister she LET Carrie have Lucas because she loved him and she may let Rafe go too thinking he is to good for her but guess what they all come back to her and want her no matter if he thinks "Carrie is so great" or will act harsh because that will have been done out of hurt see Lucas and yes the way they are writing Rafe to fit the plot see Rafe but all beats will be off when little miss "perfect" cheats and you say he doesn't now the real Sami oh I think he does shooting someone in the head and being okay with it scheming in the SAFEhouse. The only difference now is her lies will directly hurt Rafe but he does now and this is being done to make no doubt that this is what REAL Sami does hurts the men she loves the most. Which is a fault he will not see as cute after the reveal but they are placing them on an even playing field and not that I thout Rafe was ever "perfect" but this is being done to show no doubt that he is indeed imperfect too. So Then you have three imperfect people who all love each other in a triangle ultimately and all stories ALWAYS go back to who else but Sami. Who the ultimately choose for Sami's affections is on them but it's not over by a long shot. If they were Rafe would have been paried with anyone BUT Carrie. Which would show the were serious about him moving on.
haha we were typing somewhat similar things at the same time. I like your version too!
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If they were bringing back Sami the villain this would be happening after the reveal, but the fact that it's happening before the reveal shows that Days plans on making Sami the poor wittle victim again. :frustration: I so knew this was going to happen.
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I dont think these poor guys are getting a prize in Sami, but it suits my purpose, so Lumi v Safe is cool!

Just stop using EJole to pimp Sami!

FREE EJOLE
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I dont think these poor guys are getting a prize in Sami, but it suits my purpose, so Lumu v Safe is cool!

Just stop using EJole to pimp Sami!

FREE EJOLE
ITA. They just need let Ejole to be free of the Beast. So sick of them being thrown under the beast bus. :frustration:
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Jan 26 2012, 03:41 PM
This is just what I was afraid of. As usual Beast gets a pass for her actions. She is never allowed to fall flat on her face like other characters. I don't like Safe at all, but I'm so annoyed that Cafe are happening before the reveal. I'm guessing AS went to KC since her character was getting a lot of heat and got things changed so as usual Sami will get a pass like she always does. Another reason why I never get invested in any of AS's stories. It's hard to like a character who does horrible things yet rarely if ever has to suffer for the consequences of her actions. I can relate to someone who does something bad and has to suffer for it which is pretty much the reason why I can't relate to Sami. It's always someone else's fault or someone else is to blame. It's just the sane old repeated cycle over and over.
Just like Nicole and EJ....hmmm?
Not really. Sami is called a heroine and does things just as bad or worse then Nicole who is constantly put down for crap that isn't even her fault. Both Ej and Nicole usually suffer some kind of consequence for their actions and are called out on what they did with Sami it's always someone else's fault and she is ALWAYS made out to be the victim even when she's not.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

I think that the fact that Sami sees Cafe kissing might force Rafe to try to nip this attraction thing in the bud. He will feel guilty about what just happened, simply because he doesn't know yet what Sami has done which is 10 times worse than a passionate falling into each other kiss...lol

I can see Rafe jumping through hoops to try to make Sami happy after she walks in on him kissing Carrie and since I'm assuming Sami will be more vigilant about any interaction between Cafe, I all of a sudden don't think that Cafe will boink before the reveal comes out. I have no doubt that Cafe will be a couple, but now I'm wondering if he will react to finding out what Sami did by pursuing his feelings for Carrie once the shit hits the fan. The angst will be the attraction between Cafe and trying to fight it off from now through April probably. The reveal to Nicole and Rafe of what Sami and Ej have done won' t be out in February, that is when Sami finds out that Will knows, but no one else will find out now.

As I said earlier, before the spoilers came out yesterday I was almost certain that when Lucas comes back and finds out what occurred with Sami and Ej and how Sami feels about Rafe, he would probably encourage her to fight for her marriage. But now the game has changed and I'm sure that even if he encourages her to do that, she will tell him that she witnessed Rafe and Carrie kissing, which might immediately change Lucas' advice to Sami. So maybe a quad plays out somehow? With Austin probably growing more and more distant from Carrie, I can see them throwing Lucas in with Carrie/Sami/Rafe.
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