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Spoilers for the week of February 6th; *UPDATED 1/31*
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Topic Started: Jan 26 2012, 06:52 PM (31,419 Views)
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Jan 29 2012, 10:42 PM
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Someone on another board mentioned EJ's resemblence to Santo. If he's not Stephano's son, how could that be? Unless he's John's son...
How far along was Kristen in her pregnancy when she had her miscarriage? It could have all been a lie.
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Jan 29 2012, 10:47 PM
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Someone on another board mentioned EJ's resemblence to Santo. If he's not Stephano's son, how could that be? Unless he's John's son...
How far along was Kristen in her pregnancy when she had her miscarriage?
It could have all been a lie. That is exactly what I think will happen...since Shawn is dead and he's the only one that actually gave the 'account' on the Brady side, the rest was ALL Stefano's doing....the letters were found in the Dimera House in New Orleans, the vendetta started because Stefano said so....
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Jan 29 2012, 10:51 PM
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- confusedbyitall
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Sounds like some good February Sweeps so far. I am very interested in what is in Stefano's envelope and what he is horrified to find I wonder if it has something to do with EJ or something I cannot wait to see it I am so glad that this story is moving. Can't wait to see what Stefano is hiding now.
I am still thinking that Ian may be possibly Madison's father or something it seems to me like he guides her and sort of tells her what to do like a father figure type. I do not get the feeling that it was anything romantic between the two of them but with Kate I think there may have been something between Ian and Kate in the past and maybe there possibly still will for one or both of them. I cannot wait to see what connection that Kate/Ian will have and I get the feeling by what I have read in some of the spoilers here and on other pages that it may have an affect on Stefano too, like he may start to worry about his marriage to Kate.
I can't stand Sami she is all up in arms because Rafe kissed Carrie but she can sleep with EJ and keep it a secret from Rafe and that is fine as long as he never finds out. Hypocrite isn't even the word for her at all.
I get the feeling that John/Hope are married somehow.
This obsession that Abigail has for Austin is getting beyond creepy.
Don't know if anyone said this or not, but could Kate be the woman that Madison's father left her mother for??
I think maybe the info in Stefano's envelope is that Alice knows that he is not EJ's father. I'm thinking that Stefano doesn't already know, either. Alice found out when she helped Susan with EJ's childhood illness. To ME that would be leverage for this "IOU" crap. :frownie: But if that is the case then this would tarnish Alice because she KNEW that Ej wasn't his son but still let Stefano raise him thinking he was. NOPE, I'm not buying that is the secret. I think that if anything Alice would protect a child from being raised by Stefano, not willingly have him raise him if he wasn't the father. I still think there are a few things going here and Ej won't be associated with this particular secret.
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Jan 29 2012, 11:03 PM
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CDN TV Guide Spoilers Monday Jennifer lies in an effort to help Abe win election votes;
I am so glad that Jennifer's self destruction --- this campaign thing --- has nothing to do with Jack. I am not shocked that Jennifer lies, she's done this before. She is a great liar and a master of denial, to everyone, but Jack. I am assuming there will eventually be fallout to this and I hope that he is the one to call her out. He can read her like a book, so just a matter of time, when he finally figures out that something's not right. I think the vets epi was a turning point for him, so I see some semi-recovery for his character in the works. Jack has relied on so many ppl in the past, Adrienne, Jo, Steve, Isabella, Alice and Dr. Baker they were key in helping him rebuild his life. Getting help doesn't make one weak, it makes them stronger. Jack is one of the most evolved characters on the show and that is why I like him so much. In as much as I want to see more PTSD scenes for Jack, I'm not sure that they are going to keep this SL so Jack centric. It is now obvious, TPTB are moving us onto the Abby, Jen and Jack show. Jack being their for both the women in his life, is classic. He is one of the most resilient characters on the show. So many times Jack has been down, but he nevers gives up. He may need encouragement and support for his current situation, just like in his past, but once he accepts help and assistance to deal with his problems, he will be back stronger and better than before. Jennifer on the other hand, needs to grow and develop along these lines and this where I want to see her character go. I am all for the strong and secure woman type portrayal, but Jennifer has been given a pass way too many times. Now she to admit her flaws and impefections and seek help. If she can do this, then, I can support her, if not, then TPTB can throw her character to the wolves, noboby wants to see bitchifer. Jack has already noted that Jennifer's not acting quite like herself. Picking a fight with Nicole, in public? Getting so riled up that he and Daniel had to pull them off each other? This kind of aggression is unprecedented for her--she never got into a catfight with Eve Donovan, and physically, they were a much better match. Jennifer vs. Nicole is a teacup poodle trying to take down a pit bull.
Since Jack knows Jennifer better than anyone, I'd expect him to pick up on other signs that she's veering off the rails. Of course, since he's stepped back from her romantically, he may have less opportunity to observe her behavior up close. But I'm wondering if he's going to be in the vicinity when she lies to benefit Abe. I could see him trying to caution her about engaging in these tactics, only for Jennifer to blow him off by insisting that they have to make sure EJ doesn't win.
With both Jennifer and Abigail losing their moral compasses about now, Jack is going to realize his family needs him more than ever. Because the fall-out for Jennifer and Abigail's lies and schemes is likely to be catastrophic--the Sweetheart of Salem stooping to possible election fraud, and her doted-upon daughter plotting to break up a marriage. Jack's got plenty of issues, but he hasn't done anything illegal, immoral, or unethical since his return, leaving him in the unusual position of being the voice of reason and moral authority.
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Jan 29 2012, 11:21 PM
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CDN TV Guide Spoilers Monday Jennifer lies in an effort to help Abe win election votes;
I am so glad that Jennifer's self destruction --- this campaign thing --- has nothing to do with Jack. I am not shocked that Jennifer lies, she's done this before. She is a great liar and a master of denial, to everyone, but Jack. I am assuming there will eventually be fallout to this and I hope that he is the one to call her out. He can read her like a book, so just a matter of time, when he finally figures out that something's not right. I think the vets epi was a turning point for him, so I see some semi-recovery for his character in the works. Jack has relied on so many ppl in the past, Adrienne, Jo, Steve, Isabella, Alice and Dr. Baker they were key in helping him rebuild his life. Getting help doesn't make one weak, it makes them stronger. Jack is one of the most evolved characters on the show and that is why I like him so much. In as much as I want to see more PTSD scenes for Jack, I'm not sure that they are going to keep this SL so Jack centric. It is now obvious, TPTB are moving us onto the Abby, Jen and Jack show. Jack being their for both the women in his life, is classic. He is one of the most resilient characters on the show. So many times Jack has been down, but he nevers gives up. He may need encouragement and support for his current situation, just like in his past, but once he accepts help and assistance to deal with his problems, he will be back stronger and better than before. Jennifer on the other hand, needs to grow and develop along these lines and this where I want to see her character go. I am all for the strong and secure woman type portrayal, but Jennifer has been given a pass way too many times. Now she to admit her flaws and impefections and seek help. If she can do this, then, I can support her, if not, then TPTB can throw her character to the wolves, noboby wants to see bitchifer.
Jack has already noted that Jennifer's not acting quite like herself. Picking a fight with Nicole, in public? Getting so riled up that he and Daniel had to pull them off each other? This kind of aggression is unprecedented for her--she never got into a catfight with Eve Donovan, and physically, they were a much better match. Jennifer vs. Nicole is a teacup poodle trying to take down a pit bull. Since Jack knows Jennifer better than anyone, I'd expect him to pick up on other signs that she's veering off the rails. Of course, since he's stepped back from her romantically, he may have less opportunity to observe her behavior up close. But I'm wondering if he's going to be in the vicinity when she lies to benefit Abe. I could see him trying to caution her about engaging in these tactics, only for Jennifer to blow him off by insisting that they have to make sure EJ doesn't win. With both Jennifer and Abigail losing their moral compasses about now, Jack is going to realize his family needs him more than ever. Because the fall-out for Jennifer and Abigail's lies and schemes is likely to be catastrophic--the Sweetheart of Salem stooping to possible election fraud, and her doted-upon daughter plotting to break up a marriage. Jack's got plenty of issues, but he hasn't done anything illegal, immoral, or unethical since his return, leaving him in the unusual position of being the voice of reason and moral authority. Jack has already warned Jernifer about playing dirty in politcs. He even admitted the she was the one to help him see the light and distance himself from these types of things. Jennifer already lost her moral compass. several months ago, she is just now adding fuel to her own fire. She is not taking any of Jack's recent advice to heart... so I do hear the words.. I TOLD YOU SO... coming real soon. If Jack is there to save her, it will not be the love-swooning Jack this time, it is going to mentor Jack, telling her how it is. Tough and honest love from Jack, both on the horizon Abby and Jen.
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Jan 29 2012, 11:39 PM
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"ABIGAIL MAKES AUSTIN THINK THEY SLEP TOGETHER :facepalm:
I would have less of an issue with this story if Abby had a crush on just about anybody besides Austin. If say she had tricked Brady into thinking they'd slept together, it'd be less stupid, only because THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO AUSTIN ONCE BEFORE. His wife knows that the last crazy chick faked the whole thing. You would think she'd be a little hesitant and wanting to get her facts straight, too. It doesn't do anybody involved with this story any favors because we've already gone down this road with them and it's unbelievable that 1) it would happen twice to the same guy and 2) that nobody's even a little suspicious.
Exactly.Its become evident that MarDar have nothing in the creativity tank to draw from,so they are recycling I thought it was interesting that Kate Mansi, when being interviewed about this storyline, had no idea that Abigail is doing the same thing Sami had done before. KM seemed genuinely surprised when the interviewer filled her in on the parallel. Obviously, KM isn't seeing anything in her scripts that is making the link so maybe the writers think that no one will notice? Strange, given that they're going to such lengths to play up the parallels in the story they're doing with Marlena-Sami-Will.
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Jan 30 2012, 12:11 AM
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"ABIGAIL MAKES AUSTIN THINK THEY SLEP TOGETHER :facepalm:
I would have less of an issue with this story if Abby had a crush on just about anybody besides Austin. If say she had tricked Brady into thinking they'd slept together, it'd be less stupid, only because THIS HAS ALREADY HAPPENED TO AUSTIN ONCE BEFORE. His wife knows that the last crazy chick faked the whole thing. You would think she'd be a little hesitant and wanting to get her facts straight, too. It doesn't do anybody involved with this story any favors because we've already gone down this road with them and it's unbelievable that 1) it would happen twice to the same guy and 2) that nobody's even a little suspicious.
Exactly.Its become evident that MarDar have nothing in the creativity tank to draw from,so they are recycling
I thought it was interesting that Kate Mansi, when being interviewed about this storyline, had no idea that Abigail is doing the same thing Sami had done before. KM seemed genuinely surprised when the interviewer filled her in on the parallel. Obviously, KM isn't seeing anything in her scripts that is making the link so maybe the writers think that no one will notice? Strange, given that they're going to such lengths to play up the parallels in the story they're doing with Marlena-Sami-Will. I feel like the show has not really touched on the the past Austin/Sami relationship since Austin and Carrie returned. I guess that is partly because most of Austin and Sami's history occurred with AP in the role.
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Jan 30 2012, 01:04 AM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Brady proposers to Madison? say i`s not so and please leave Nicole out of it.
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Jan 30 2012, 01:45 AM
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God, I dont want to see another marriage for either BOPE or Jarlena....and John and Hope being married is probably the excuse needed to that to happen...ZZZZ
Seriously, the last thing this show needs is another vow renewal for either of these couples. It is just a joke now how many times they do it.
They'll probably have a double wedding for May sweeps! :laugh: One Double wedding coming up!! Right under that lovely arch in HTS!! I can see it now! :cheer:
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Jan 30 2012, 02:30 AM
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God, I dont want to see another marriage for either BOPE or Jarlena....and John and Hope being married is probably the excuse needed to that to happen...ZZZZ
Seriously, the last thing this show needs is another vow renewal for either of these couples. It is just a joke now how many times they do it.
They'll probably have a double wedding for May sweeps! :laugh:
One Double wedding coming up!! Right under that lovely arch in HTS!! I can see it now! :cheer: That sounds good!
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Jan 30 2012, 03:09 AM
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What a joke!!! MARRIAGE and WEDDINGS mean nothing on this show--just another excuse to get couples to cheat and lie to each other. THIS IS NOT ROMANCE!! :soapbox: I don't care about any more weddings. They never last more than a few months so there's nothing to invest in. STUPID WRITING and PLOT POINTS.
And it's not like getting married is even required to HAVE KIDS anymore. In fact, getting married almost guarantees a couple will NOT have a kid together, no matter how much they fuck (SAFE, EJOLE) or not (CAUSTIN). In the alternate universe that is Salem, you just need to fuck someone OTHER THAN your significant other once to become a parent (Ejami x2, Phloe) -- or miraculously have amnesia about giving birth or giving up your eggs. You can also have children that you never knew you had --with people you've never even touched.
I know this is a soap, but does every single couple have to have a fucked up relationship?? The only drama free couple is Justin & Adrienne, and they are being punished by being off the show. :shrug:
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Jan 30 2012, 04:23 AM
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How about they ACTUALLY sleep together instead? Abby is legal... laaaawd!
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Jan 30 2012, 07:10 AM
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Wait a minute... John and Hope are married?? When did this happen? Im curious to see how this will be explained LOL, I doubt MarDar will let history and fans' memories get in the way. But they're certainly going to have to do some creative storytelling to write their way out of this one.
The first time Hope was Princess Gina, she was still technically married to Bo. Remember Bo's marriage to Billie was deemed invalid because Hope was still alive? So Bo and Billie had to get remarried (but never did).
The second time she was Gina, the only time John was fully the Pawn was on the sub and he and Marlena were already married. Unless John and Hope/Gina had a quicky ceremony whilst he was having a memory flash when they met in the bushes on the morning of his and Marlena's wedding. Either way, if she got married as Princess Gina and not Hope (her real name) then surely the marriage would be illegal anyway???
The Giawn wedding probably happened somehow miraculously during Princess Gina 1. Who wants to bet that the reason Billie comes back is because her and Bo are still legally married, LOL. Big Love meets The Swingers.
Seriously, how many more weddings do Bo and Hope and John and Marlena need? It's getting beyond the joke and I'm a Bope fan.
Between the storyline where Sami Abigail convinces a drunk Austin they slept together and this one where Tom and Alice Bo and Hope finding out they aren't really married after all this time, why don't NBC just air reruns of 1990s Days of our Lives and save themselves a whole lot of money.
LAME!!
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Jan 30 2012, 08:43 AM
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I just wanted to say that john and hope are not married i dont believe that for second.just how i will never think that billie coming back to the show because she is still married to bo.
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Jan 30 2012, 08:58 AM
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Sounds like some good February Sweeps so far. I am very interested in what is in Stefano's envelope and what he is horrified to find I wonder if it has something to do with EJ or something I cannot wait to see it I am so glad that this story is moving. Can't wait to see what Stefano is hiding now.
I am still thinking that Ian may be possibly Madison's father or something it seems to me like he guides her and sort of tells her what to do like a father figure type. I do not get the feeling that it was anything romantic between the two of them but with Kate I think there may have been something between Ian and Kate in the past and maybe there possibly still will for one or both of them. I cannot wait to see what connection that Kate/Ian will have and I get the feeling by what I have read in some of the spoilers here and on other pages that it may have an affect on Stefano too, like he may start to worry about his marriage to Kate.
I can't stand Sami she is all up in arms because Rafe kissed Carrie but she can sleep with EJ and keep it a secret from Rafe and that is fine as long as he never finds out. Hypocrite isn't even the word for her at all.
I get the feeling that John/Hope are married somehow.
This obsession that Abigail has for Austin is getting beyond creepy.
Don't know if anyone said this or not, but could Kate be the woman that Madison's father left her mother for??
I think maybe the info in Stefano's envelope is that Alice knows that he is not EJ's father. I'm thinking that Stefano doesn't already know, either. Alice found out when she helped Susan with EJ's childhood illness. To ME that would be leverage for this "IOU" crap. :frownie:
But if that is the case then this would tarnish Alice because she KNEW that Ej wasn't his son but still let Stefano raise him thinking he was. NOPE, I'm not buying that is the secret. I think that if anything Alice would protect a child from being raised by Stefano, not willingly have him raise him if he wasn't the father. I still think there are a few things going here and Ej won't be associated with this particular secret. I didn't think Ej was raised by Stefano, he was raised until early adulthood by Susan and Edmund? :shrug: I am probably wrong as I didn't watch much if at all during this time.
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Jan 30 2012, 09:10 AM
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I think maybe the info in Stefano's envelope is that Alice knows that he is not EJ's father. I'm thinking that Stefano doesn't already know, either. Alice found out when she helped Susan with EJ's childhood illness. To ME that would be leverage for this "IOU" crap. :frownie:
But if that is the case then this would tarnish Alice because she KNEW that Ej wasn't his son but still let Stefano raise him thinking he was. NOPE, I'm not buying that is the secret. I think that if anything Alice would protect a child from being raised by Stefano, not willingly have him raise him if he wasn't the father. I still think there are a few things going here and Ej won't be associated with this particular secret.
I didn't think Ej was raised by Stefano, he was raised until early adulthood by Susan and Edmund? :shrug: I am probably wrong as I didn't watch much if at all during this time. We don't know enough about when Ej got to Stefano. We've heard that around 8 or 9 yrs old but we don't know for sure.
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Jan 30 2012, 09:34 AM
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Alice might have kept it secret to protect her family. Who do you think Stefano would blame if baby Elvis died? Alice and her doctors. He isnt known to be rational or sane when it comes to blaming people for his problems. Alice and everyone around her would have been in grave danger. Would she sacrifice a child to keep Stefano happy? Maybe.
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But if that is the case then this would tarnish Alice because she KNEW that Ej wasn't his son but still let Stefano raise him thinking he was. NOPE, I'm not buying that is the secret. I think that if anything Alice would protect a child from being raised by Stefano, not willingly have him raise him if he wasn't the father. I still think there are a few things going here and Ej won't be associated with this particular secret.
I didn't think Ej was raised by Stefano, he was raised until early adulthood by Susan and Edmund? :shrug: I am probably wrong as I didn't watch much if at all during this time.
We don't know enough about when Ej got to Stefano. We've heard that around 8 or 9 yrs old but we don't know for sure. Oh, ok. Thanks for the info ;) I guess I was just thinking that because the first time I saw Ej since he was a baby was when he showed up in Salem as EJ Wells.
I was kinda thinking EJ was the Ian B's character kidnapped son and Madison's brother, making IB Madison's father,and Stefano didn't know any of this. Susan had put one over on him. I tend to over think.
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Jan 30 2012, 09:55 AM
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- confusedbyitall
- Jan 30 2012, 09:37 AM
I was kinda thinking EJ was the Ian B's character kidnapped son and Madison's brother, making IB Madison's father,and Stefano didn't know any of this. Susan had put one over on him. I tend to over think. I think you might be onto something with this and I don't think you are over thinking. When Madison noted that Johnny looked like her little brother, and then the talk about how he got kidnapped or given away or whatever she used made me think that Susan in an attempt to protect the 'real' EJ from Stefano did something with Ian's son and Madison's brother and passed him off to Stefano as Ej. But in theory why would Alice keep that secret? I would think she wouldn't want ANY child being raised by a Dimera.
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Jan 30 2012, 11:31 AM
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- LuvingLumi
- Jan 30 2012, 09:55 AM
- confusedbyitall
- Jan 30 2012, 09:37 AM
I was kinda thinking EJ was the Ian B's character kidnapped son and Madison's brother, making IB Madison's father,and Stefano didn't know any of this. Susan had put one over on him. I tend to over think.
I think you might be onto something with this and I don't think you are over thinking. When Madison noted that Johnny looked like her little brother, and then the talk about how he got kidnapped or given away or whatever she used made me think that Susan in an attempt to protect the 'real' EJ from Stefano did something with Ian's son and Madison's brother and passed him off to Stefano as Ej. But in theory why would Alice keep that secret? I would think she wouldn't want ANY child being raised by a Dimera. Could Alice maybe found out what Stefano had in his envelope on her family? Something that made her feel threatened if she told? Hmmm.... I'm just hoping, I guess, that there is a story coming from this that has not wasted my time viewing it. Mostly just biding my time til Lucas shows up on my screen! :wub:
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