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SOD: Austin Peck on JER: "His writing was maddening and genius!"
Topic Started: Jan 28 2012, 12:56 AM (6,170 Views)
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JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yep, that's correct. He wrote PSSNS and Dool from 1992-1997 and 2003-2006
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

JtSmarts
Jan 28 2012, 03:30 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yep, that's correct. He wrote PSSNS and Dool from 1992-1997 and 2003-2006
Thanks:)

I watch Passions for awhile and their stories got crazier and crazier, but I hung on to the end. I am not that familiar with his stories on here, but it seems like he still had the still insane stories, but you have to admit most of it was entertaining.
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JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yes, JER wrote Days until late 1997/early 1998, then he left to create Passions.

Although it was never billed as such, Passions was a parody soap. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. For the longest time I cursed JER for all the juvenile humor and ridiculous stories on that show, but looking back, I can appreciate it for what it was. Unfortunately, with no one at Passions to rein him in, JER went balls-to-the-wall crazy and he did the same thing when he returned to Days in 2003. For me, he was at his best from 1993 - 1997.
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Jan 28 2012, 03:39 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yes, JER wrote Days until late 1997/early 1998, then he left to create Passions.

Although it was never billed as such, Passions was a parody soap. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. For the longest time I cursed JER for all the juvenile humor and ridiculous stories on that show, but looking back, I can appreciate it for what it was. Unfortunately, with no one at Passions to rein him in, JER went balls-to-the-wall crazy and he did the same thing when he returned to Days in 2003. For me, he was at his best from 1993 - 1997.
I'd like to know what his original plan for the SSK story was. Maybe things wouldn't have gotten as crazy if they'd left him alone. Sometimes I feel like everything that happened from mid 2004-until he was finally gone was all one big revenge ploy on his part.
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I understand that JER's stuff is appealing to many, but I think Days lost so much soul when Langan and Reilly came in. Though I have to admit to missing a lot of the stuff that I know people like from the 90s because I lost interest (and I just couldn't take fauxJack).

Unfortunately, I fear the current writers are lacking JER's strengths and do have some of his flaws.
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lysie
Jan 28 2012, 03:41 PM
Kenny
Jan 28 2012, 03:39 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yes, JER wrote Days until late 1997/early 1998, then he left to create Passions.

Although it was never billed as such, Passions was a parody soap. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. For the longest time I cursed JER for all the juvenile humor and ridiculous stories on that show, but looking back, I can appreciate it for what it was. Unfortunately, with no one at Passions to rein him in, JER went balls-to-the-wall crazy and he did the same thing when he returned to Days in 2003. For me, he was at his best from 1993 - 1997.
I'd like to know what his original plan for the SSK story was. Maybe things wouldn't have gotten as crazy if they'd left him alone. Sometimes I feel like everything that happened from mid 2004-until he was finally gone was all one big revenge ploy on his part.
I loved the original SSK story until they brought everyone back and had the stupid island stuff. I've always believed that Corday panicked because fans on the message boards were complaining about their favorites being written out, so he made JER bring them all back from the dead. Then JER wrote the most ridiculous shit he could think of bringing them back because he was pissed off at having to change his story. I too would love to know what his original plans were for the SSK story. The early part of that story was really must see TV.
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Mason
Jan 28 2012, 03:21 PM
However, I do think it was the last compulsively watchable era of the show (with the exception of B&C's stint).
+1. I don't remember actually relishing it in the same way as others, but I watched every single day. That was the last era I remember people in real life randomly starting to talk about the show, too.
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Sindacco
Jan 28 2012, 10:37 AM
Drew
Jan 28 2012, 04:29 AM
I'd agree he was a terrible character writer. Every single plot relied on characters being stupid, or acting out of their previously established character to make them work.

I also think his era's been romantacised as better than it actually was. It's great in clip form of the more memorable moments, but if one was to watch it now in its entirety (every day) I really think people would see it in a new light.
I have alot of episodes from the JER era on tapes and DVDs and I still love watching them every now and then.

Whenever JER's first run is discussed it's always the John/Marlena/Kristen stuff that gets praised but I liked alot of the other stories too. Stefano and Tony's returns in 1993 leading up to Tony and Kristen's wedding in 1994 and Stefano faking his death and going to Maison Blanche, the "Who Killed Curtis" story that same winter. And the Aremid storyline was great not just because of Tony framing John but also Lexie finding out who her parents were and Jude St Clair kidnapping Hope. Stefano faking Peter's death and Jack going to prison, Franco breaking up Bo and Hope, Bo and Billie going undercover to bring down JL King. So much good stuff.
But what are you watching episodes of? Random daily episodes, or episodes of story traction or payoffs? If its the "good" ones, that still goes back to my point about the show in clip form.
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Mason
Jan 28 2012, 03:21 PM
Drew
Jan 28 2012, 04:29 AM
I also think his era's been romantacised as better than it actually was. It's great in clip form of the more memorable moments, but if one was to watch it now in its entirety (every day) I really think people would see it in a new light.
I agree to a point. It wasn't the show's greatest era (by any means) -- watching clips and bootleg DVDs I've bought has revealed serious flaws to me that weren't as apparent when I was a kid and it was actually airing. However, I do think it was the last compulsively watchable era of the show (with the exception of B&C's stint).
We tend to look back on alot of things we liked when we were young and go "wtf" :lol: I used to love Power Rangers.
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JER wrote some crazy stuff but the show was entertaining.I sometimes think onliners in particular get so hung up on great dialogue and acting moments and who is the best actor or this couple has to be together that we forget a TV show is supposed to be entertaining. I watch Tony Geary's Luke kill his grandkid and go into an interventin. Was the acting good yes but I felt as if I was watching a PSA and can't really say it entertained me or anything made me engaged enough to watch more. JER had his flaws but he wrote an entertaining show.

Off topic does anyone know why Corday slammed JER in the book? Did they have a falling out?
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JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:36 PM
I am not that familiar with his stories on here, but it seems like he still had insane stories
His stories on Days were pretty unconventional, but they weren't as extreme as the stories he wrote on Passions.

One of his first stories was the "Who Killed Curtis?" murder mystery.



He also wrote the Sami/Alan rape storyline which resulted in Sami shooting his balls off.



He wrote Buried Alive.









He (along with Sheri Anderson) wrote the climax of the affair storyline, which led to Sami witnessing John and Marlena having sex on a conference room table at Titan. Marlena ended up pregnant with John's baby (Belle). At the baby's Christening, it was revealed that John was Belle's father, destroying Roman and Marlena's marriage. Furious over her mother's betrayal, Sami kidnapped Belle and tried to sell her on the black market, but Belle was returned to Marlena on Christmas Eve.









Then there was Maison Blanche, an umbrella story featuring John, Marlena, Stefano, Bo, Hope, Billie, Celeste, Kristen, Tony and others that took place in New Orleans.



He also wrote the infamous Possession story.



Following that was Aremid, another umbrella story featuring John, Marlena, Kristen, Stefano, Jack, Jennifer, Peter, Lexie, Celeste and strange characters like the Lady in White and the Parrot Man. At Peter and Jennifer's wedding reception, Tony killed himself and framed John for his "murder," which resulted in John going to trial and nearly dying in the gas chamber.





He also wrote the Sami/Austin/Carrie triangle, which went on for years. Sami did everything from drugging Austin into bed and crashing his wedding to Carrie to lying about Will's paternity and faking amnesia and paralysis to keep him and Carrie apart.







Then there was Lady In A Cage, which featured John, Marlena, Stefano and Kristen. Driven by his obsession with Marlena, Stefano kidnapped his Queen of the Night and held her captive in a gilded cage under the streets of Paris.



Finally, there was The Secret Room, which was the climax of the John/Marlena/Kristen triangle.





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lysie
Jan 28 2012, 03:41 PM
Kenny
Jan 28 2012, 03:39 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yes, JER wrote Days until late 1997/early 1998, then he left to create Passions.

Although it was never billed as such, Passions was a parody soap. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. For the longest time I cursed JER for all the juvenile humor and ridiculous stories on that show, but looking back, I can appreciate it for what it was. Unfortunately, with no one at Passions to rein him in, JER went balls-to-the-wall crazy and he did the same thing when he returned to Days in 2003. For me, he was at his best from 1993 - 1997.
I'd like to know what his original plan for the SSK story was. Maybe things wouldn't have gotten as crazy if they'd left him alone. Sometimes I feel like everything that happened from mid 2004-until he was finally gone was all one big revenge ploy on his part.
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. JER definitely held grudges. Look no further than Thaao Penghlis and Matt Ashford for proof, LoL. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that he tanked his second run on purpose to stick it to Corday for interfering with his stories.
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OldDaysFankat
Jan 28 2012, 04:48 PM
Off topic does anyone know why Corday slammed JER in the book? Did they have a falling out?
I'm pretty sure they did. Wasn't there a rumor about JER storming out of a meeting with Corday in '05 or '06 after telling him to kiss his fat ass? LoL.
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Jan 28 2012, 05:04 PM
OldDaysFankat
Jan 28 2012, 04:48 PM
Off topic does anyone know why Corday slammed JER in the book? Did they have a falling out?
I'm pretty sure they did. Wasn't there a rumor about JER storming out of a meeting with Corday in '05 or '06 after telling him to kiss his fat ass? LoL.
Didn't he supposedly just refuse to keep writing around the summer of 2006?
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lysie
Jan 28 2012, 05:06 PM
Kenny
Jan 28 2012, 05:04 PM
OldDaysFankat
Jan 28 2012, 04:48 PM
Off topic does anyone know why Corday slammed JER in the book? Did they have a falling out?
I'm pretty sure they did. Wasn't there a rumor about JER storming out of a meeting with Corday in '05 or '06 after telling him to kiss his fat ass? LoL.
Didn't he supposedly just refuse to keep writing around the summer of 2006?
That was the rumor at the time but I don't think it was ever confirmed.
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Did JER ever say anything about his view of Laura? It seemed like she left only about 5-6 months after he did. I guess that was down to Jack and Jennifer also leaving, and he can't have seen her as that important since she never returned in his second run, but she's such a fascinating character and he was the only one who had her come back at all (not counting the cameo at Alice's funeral).
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Kenny
Jan 28 2012, 04:59 PM
lysie
Jan 28 2012, 03:41 PM
Kenny
Jan 28 2012, 03:39 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 28 2012, 03:25 PM
Is James the same writer that wrote that show Passions or am I missing something?
Yes, JER wrote Days until late 1997/early 1998, then he left to create Passions.

Although it was never billed as such, Passions was a parody soap. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously. For the longest time I cursed JER for all the juvenile humor and ridiculous stories on that show, but looking back, I can appreciate it for what it was. Unfortunately, with no one at Passions to rein him in, JER went balls-to-the-wall crazy and he did the same thing when he returned to Days in 2003. For me, he was at his best from 1993 - 1997.
I'd like to know what his original plan for the SSK story was. Maybe things wouldn't have gotten as crazy if they'd left him alone. Sometimes I feel like everything that happened from mid 2004-until he was finally gone was all one big revenge ploy on his part.
That wouldn't surprise me in the least. JER definitely held grudges. Look no further than Thaao Penghlis and Matt Ashford for proof, LoL. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that he tanked his second run on purpose to stick it to Corday for interfering with his stories.
It's unfortunate that he was so reclusive though, as I've read, because I kept hoping a relative or someone would eventually expose what his plan was for the original Salem SSK plot. But there may be NO one alive who can reveal that information, and that' svery sad. (Other than Corday, perhaps.) :frustration:
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CarlD2
Jan 28 2012, 05:15 PM
Did JER ever say anything about his view of Laura? It seemed like she left only about 5-6 months after he did. I guess that was down to Jack and Jennifer also leaving, and he can't have seen her as that important since she never returned in his second run, but she's such a fascinating character and he was the only one who had her come back at all (not counting the cameo at Alice's funeral).
I think JER really did like Laura. Jaime Lynn Bauer was used quite a bit during JER`s 93-97 run. You had the Jack & Laura affair, Laura & Daniel Scott, Laura teaming up with Vivian to destroy Kate, Laura exposing Lucas`parentage, Peter gas lighting Laura. Stefano/Kristen/Peter kidnapping Laura and erasing her memory, Laura exposing Susan at the wedding and Laura was also a main suspect in Kristen's "death" during the Killing Pool storyline.
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lene
Jan 28 2012, 04:30 AM
JER was great in the 90s! But his second stint on the show was terrible, except 2005-06, that was only bad. Yes, Jack died again & shit, but It was better then 2000-04.
Agreed. JER was wonderful at creating new & unpredictable s/l's but they were too long and not moving fast enough.
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Kenny
Jan 28 2012, 11:07 AM
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Thank you so much for posting this clip! I remember watching this back in 1994 (or was it 1993?) but I haven't seen any of it since. So much good stuff with John interrupting the wedding, Stefano revealing John's betrayal of Kristen, John shooting at the car, the explosion, Stefano's "death," Kristen going ballistic and vowing to never forgive him, etc.
This was when I liked JER. For me, he went downhill right after Maison Blanche. Things just started progressing more and more toward the absurd. The show lost that serious, gothic tone slowly and by the time late 1996 hit, it was all but gone. It's almost like the Possession story made JER feel like he constantly had to top himself with something more and more wacky. 1995-1997 is when all the things Peck is talking about really came into play. I actually think the stuff with JER and Sheri Anderson working together and JER's first year on his own is probably the best stuff ever on Days. Even Buried Alive came off far more seriously than the Possession did.

I will say that Aremid and Paris weren't bad. Take out the stupid goggles and People Of The Night stuff and I would've liked it better. I liked Aremid alot but I always had this feeling there was more that could've been done there (perhaps because they hinted at more...I think that was setup for a potential spinoff as was rumored at the time). Other than those two stories, the rest was just shoddy writing IMO. Everything was based on characters being dumbed down and stupid misunderstandings. It's a shame JER never stuck with the kind of tone and style he had early on because I think I and many others would look back far more fondly on his reign. Then again, I'm not sure Days would be here if he hadn't done what he did.
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