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Spoilers for the week of February 13th; *updated 2/8*
Topic Started: Jan 31 2012, 02:47 PM (30,920 Views)
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alex
Feb 1 2012, 02:05 PM
Angie79
Feb 1 2012, 02:04 PM
Tuesday ("Carrie and Sami Have It Out in a Major Way")
Carrie and Sami fight about their painful history; Abigail devises a scheme involving Austin.
Fist fight! Fist fight! :rockon: :cheer: :cheers: :popcorn:
Only this time Carrie does not have the high moral ground. The only thing she can do is try to use the past to defend herself. And what she's doing is pretty much defenseless.
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annie21
Feb 1 2012, 12:13 PM
Note to Lisa de Cazotte: Please let one of your first items of business be to get rid of the honking white couch in the middle of Horton Town Square. It's beyond ridiculous. Thank you.

Can't do that....Abby's going to need a place to sleep! :wink:
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bstreis
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No matter what you think, I DO love you.

SaveDaysNow
Feb 1 2012, 04:00 PM
I disagree. It will matter tremendously to Sami if BeastSex is revealed. Even if SAFE are broken up (which I doubt) when Beastsex comes out, SAMI will no longer be able to pretend to be so self-righteous and play the victim. She will be exposed for the SKANK she is. And Rafe, Carrie and the rest of the Brady family will look at her with DISGUST.
:)

Sami will always play victim. Ali Sweeny pretty much said it the Sami at a Glance article. She doesn't understand why Will isn't seeing this from her point of view, why Will doesn't accept the reason for her one night stand with EJ. Sami never takes responsibility for her actions, it's always someone else's fault or there's always a reason as to why she does what she does. She'll continue to be the self-righteous, selfish brat she is. And the way things are being set up with Carrie/Rafe kissing prior to beastsex reveal, they're already lessening the blow of her infidelity. If Rafe could willingly kiss her own sister, then so what if Sami had sex with EJ during such a traumatic moment in her life...she gets an out, Rafe's just a horn dog...it sucks.

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Sami will lose any chance with Rafe when BeastSex comes out, and she's not gonna turn to EJ to pick up the pieces. She's going to blame Beastsex on EJ and say he ruined her lie. Cue LUCAS!


I liked Lumi at one point but Sami deserves to be alone. She doesn't deserve a loving man in life.
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Liz<3Days
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LOVE the Brady sisters fighting...AS HOW IT SHOULD BE! I just hope Carrie gets to tell that beast off! (Doubt it...but we'll see.)
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JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Mitchapalooza
Jan 31 2012, 11:27 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 31 2012, 11:12 PM
Austin and Carrie TRY to get intimate? my mind went south, it seems like Carrie has Rafe on her mind

I could`nt be happier if she does :D
:puke: :puke: :puke:
Mitch you do know that I am a HUGE fan of Cafe right? :P
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bstreis
Feb 1 2012, 05:40 PM
SaveDaysNow
Feb 1 2012, 04:00 PM
I disagree. It will matter tremendously to Sami if BeastSex is revealed. Even if SAFE are broken up (which I doubt) when Beastsex comes out, SAMI will no longer be able to pretend to be so self-righteous and play the victim. She will be exposed for the SKANK she is. And Rafe, Carrie and the rest of the Brady family will look at her with DISGUST.
:)

Sami will always play victim. Ali Sweeny pretty much said it the Sami at a Glance article. She doesn't understand why Will isn't seeing this from her point of view, why Will doesn't accept the reason for her one night stand with EJ. Sami never takes responsibility for her actions, it's always someone else's fault or there's always a reason as to why she does what she does. She'll continue to be the self-righteous, selfish brat she is. And the way things are being set up with Carrie/Rafe kissing prior to beastsex reveal, they're already lessening the blow of her infidelity. If Rafe could willingly kiss her own sister, then so what if Sami had sex with EJ during such a traumatic moment in her life...she gets an out, Rafe's just a horn dog...it sucks.
They are completely lessening the blow of her infidelity by having the Cafe kiss come out and Safe break-up (she's kicking him out of the loft, I'd call that a break-up for now) ahead of Sami's secret coming to light. What I don't get is why. Either they are totally ineffective storytellers, which is entirely possible. Or they want Sami to have less stakes in keeping the secret so she can use it against EJ.
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tomsawyer
Feb 1 2012, 06:21 PM
bstreis
Feb 1 2012, 05:40 PM
SaveDaysNow
Feb 1 2012, 04:00 PM
I disagree. It will matter tremendously to Sami if BeastSex is revealed. Even if SAFE are broken up (which I doubt) when Beastsex comes out, SAMI will no longer be able to pretend to be so self-righteous and play the victim. She will be exposed for the SKANK she is. And Rafe, Carrie and the rest of the Brady family will look at her with DISGUST.
:)

Sami will always play victim. Ali Sweeny pretty much said it the Sami at a Glance article. She doesn't understand why Will isn't seeing this from her point of view, why Will doesn't accept the reason for her one night stand with EJ. Sami never takes responsibility for her actions, it's always someone else's fault or there's always a reason as to why she does what she does. She'll continue to be the self-righteous, selfish brat she is. And the way things are being set up with Carrie/Rafe kissing prior to beastsex reveal, they're already lessening the blow of her infidelity. If Rafe could willingly kiss her own sister, then so what if Sami had sex with EJ during such a traumatic moment in her life...she gets an out, Rafe's just a horn dog...it sucks.
They are completely lessening the blow of her infidelity by having the Cafe kiss come out and Safe break-up (she's kicking him out of the loft, I'd call that a break-up for now) ahead of Sami's secret coming to light. What I don't get is why. Either they are totally ineffective storytellers, which is entirely possible. Or they want Sami to have less stakes in keeping the secret so she can use it against EJ.
From what I've seen to date . . . I'm going with totally ineffective storytellers.
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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

Ok I am SOOOOOO there for the Carrie/Sami blow up....I am ready for these two sisters to be full blown enemies again....enough of this double date/double dinner bullshit...I am ready for Carrie to tell that bitch what is up!
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^ My face watching DAYS

JamesScott_19
Feb 1 2012, 06:00 PM
Mitchapalooza
Jan 31 2012, 11:27 PM
JamesScott_19
Jan 31 2012, 11:12 PM
Austin and Carrie TRY to get intimate? my mind went south, it seems like Carrie has Rafe on her mind

I could`nt be happier if she does :D
:puke: :puke: :puke:
Mitch you do know that I am a HUGE fan of Cafe right? :P
Yeah...I do...hence the :puke:

;)
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bstreis
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Hamilton
Feb 1 2012, 06:31 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 1 2012, 06:21 PM
bstreis
Feb 1 2012, 05:40 PM
SaveDaysNow
Feb 1 2012, 04:00 PM
I disagree. It will matter tremendously to Sami if BeastSex is revealed. Even if SAFE are broken up (which I doubt) when Beastsex comes out, SAMI will no longer be able to pretend to be so self-righteous and play the victim. She will be exposed for the SKANK she is. And Rafe, Carrie and the rest of the Brady family will look at her with DISGUST.
:)

Sami will always play victim. Ali Sweeny pretty much said it the Sami at a Glance article. She doesn't understand why Will isn't seeing this from her point of view, why Will doesn't accept the reason for her one night stand with EJ. Sami never takes responsibility for her actions, it's always someone else's fault or there's always a reason as to why she does what she does. She'll continue to be the self-righteous, selfish brat she is. And the way things are being set up with Carrie/Rafe kissing prior to beastsex reveal, they're already lessening the blow of her infidelity. If Rafe could willingly kiss her own sister, then so what if Sami had sex with EJ during such a traumatic moment in her life...she gets an out, Rafe's just a horn dog...it sucks.
They are completely lessening the blow of her infidelity by having the Cafe kiss come out and Safe break-up (she's kicking him out of the loft, I'd call that a break-up for now) ahead of Sami's secret coming to light. What I don't get is why. Either they are totally ineffective storytellers, which is entirely possible. Or they want Sami to have less stakes in keeping the secret so she can use it against EJ.
From what I've seen to date . . . I'm going with totally ineffective storytellers.
I'm going to ditto that. As interesting as it would be to think they're raising the stakes for the EJ reveal (at the moment he seems to be the only person who's really going to lose out when the secret is revealed as he's written as being very in love with Nicole) I don't see the writers doing it. From what we've seen of their work, the reveals or resolutions have all be anti-climactic. Daniel being Maggie's son, John's free from prison, Johnny coming out from under the table...the only shocking things they've done was the deadbaby sex and revealing that it was Will and not Lucas who shot EJ - neither of which have been utilized properly or sparked much story after. Hell they don't even tell us how EJ found out about Will, it's scripted that it doesn't matter...lame. So many possibilities, all falling flat. I see the same for the beastsex reveal, no stakes so no fallouts.
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bstreis
Feb 1 2012, 06:53 PM
Hamilton
Feb 1 2012, 06:31 PM
tomsawyer
Feb 1 2012, 06:21 PM
bstreis
Feb 1 2012, 05:40 PM

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They are completely lessening the blow of her infidelity by having the Cafe kiss come out and Safe break-up (she's kicking him out of the loft, I'd call that a break-up for now) ahead of Sami's secret coming to light. What I don't get is why. Either they are totally ineffective storytellers, which is entirely possible. Or they want Sami to have less stakes in keeping the secret so she can use it against EJ.
From what I've seen to date . . . I'm going with totally ineffective storytellers.
I'm going to ditto that. As interesting as it would be to think they're raising the stakes for the EJ reveal (at the moment he seems to be the only person who's really going to lose out when the secret is revealed as he's written as being very in love with Nicole) I don't see the writers doing it. From what we've seen of their work, the reveals or resolutions have all be anti-climactic. Daniel being Maggie's son, John's free from prison, Johnny coming out from under the table...the only shocking things they've done was the deadbaby sex and revealing that it was Will and not Lucas who shot EJ - neither of which have been utilized properly or sparked much story after. Hell they don't even tell us how EJ found out about Will, it's scripted that it doesn't matter...lame. So many possibilities, all falling flat. I see the same for the beastsex reveal, no stakes so no fallouts.
I agree that everything that's come from these writers is anticlimatic. However, when Rafe finds out about Beastsex, I do think that will have major consequences for him and Sami. He won't feel as guilty for having an attraction to Carrie because that attraction started AFTER Sami fucked EJ, and all of Sami's guilt has been undermining SAFE's relationship Rafe can rationalize that the reason he started to gravitate toward Carrie was because SAMI was acting weird. All true. He can shift blame back to Sami where most (tho not all) of it belongs. It's still wrong for Rafe to swap spit with his sister in law, but Sami's misdeeds were far worse.

What's even more disappointing is that MARLENA hasn't even given SAMI a beatdown even though she knows about beastsex. That in and of itself is just a total writer FAIL. :shrug:
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Not only has Marlena sadly not given Sami a richly deserved beatdown, has she even told her that she knows? Is my memory so poor that I've forgotten this conversation or did it simply never occur?
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Paxton
Feb 1 2012, 07:27 PM
Not only has Marlena sadly not given Sami a richly deserved beatdown, has she even told her that she knows? Is my memory so poor that I've forgotten this conversation or did it simply never occur?
Marlena being the classy mother hasn't even told Sami that she knows.
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No matter what you think, I DO love you.

SaveDaysNow - I hope you're right on the Rafe stuff. Although I want him to feel guilty about the kiss I don't want that guilt to affect his reaction to the beastsex reveal. I want him to be pissed and not fall for Sami's BS excuses as to why it happened.

I was pretty disappointed in the way Marlena found out about beastsex. It was done in a way that Marlena couldn't really do anything with the information. It was told to her by her already emotionally unstable grandson in confidence, hell she wasn't even allowed to talk to John about it - which I also thought was lame because they could have had a very good conversation where their affair would have been pulled in.

So Marlena knows, but there's nothing she can do with that knowledge...more anti-climactic stuff. I don't see a big fallout from this because the main players have already been told (or are about to be told). EJ already knows and he countered with a blackmail, and it seems like Sami's going to be told soon...so what after that? Trying to keep it a secret from their significant others - boring. The secret should have been revealed at a very public event...I mean you had EJ/Sami having deadbaby sex - it should be big, but now it's like...eh.
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I would hope Marlena isn't as immature as Sami and doesn't need to throw that in her face.

She actually loves her daughter, even though her daughter's an ass.
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Paxton
Feb 1 2012, 07:27 PM
Not only has Marlena sadly not given Sami a richly deserved beatdown, has she even told her that she knows? Is my memory so poor that I've forgotten this conversation or did it simply never occur?
She hasn't. They actually haven't done anything with the fact that Marlena knows. IDK if I want her confronting her about it, but there should still be something happening now that she knows. She could talk to her about something else and that could be the subtext. But at this point it makes not a lick of difference that she knows.
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michelle
Feb 1 2012, 09:01 PM
I would hope Marlena isn't as immature as Sami and doesn't need to throw that in her face.

She actually loves her daughter, even though her daughter's an ass.
Love doesn't mean ignoring a loved one's faults and flaws, and parenting certainly doesn't. Sami may be an adult (the jury's still out given her maturity level), but that doesn't mean Marlena can't or shouldn't speak to her about her self-destructive and selfish behavior, especially when Sami has spent nearly two decades rationalizing and justifying every shitty thing she's ever done on the basis that her mother committed adultery. For Marlena to have NO discussion with her about it is just as disappointing and unrealistic and as much bad storytelling as it was for Marlena to not be allowed to question her daughter in 2008 about how and why she had voluntarily had sex with a man she had just spent a year or more insisting to everyone who would listen had raped her. Parents sometimes have to have unpleasant conversations with their children, even grown ones, and given that Sami herself is allegedly feeling bad because she broke the same Commandment her mother did, to not talk about it at all is just awful soap.
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Carrie, Sami & Abby are all crazy, psycho, skanks! It will be a great day to watch, lying, scheming, cheating women go nuts. :sarcasm: Why are all the men so sane?
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Paxton
Feb 1 2012, 09:10 PM
michelle
Feb 1 2012, 09:01 PM
I would hope Marlena isn't as immature as Sami and doesn't need to throw that in her face.

She actually loves her daughter, even though her daughter's an ass.
Love doesn't mean ignoring a loved one's faults and flaws, and parenting certainly doesn't. Sami may be an adult (the jury's still out given her maturity level), but that doesn't mean Marlena can't or shouldn't speak to her about her self-destructive and selfish behavior, especially when Sami has spent nearly two decades rationalizing and justifying every shitty thing she's ever done on the basis that her mother committed adultery. For Marlena to have NO discussion with her about it is just as disappointing and unrealistic and as much bad storytelling as it was for Marlena to not be allowed to question her daughter in 2008 about how and why she had voluntarily had sex with a man she had just spent a year or more insisting to everyone who would listen had raped her. Parents sometimes have to have unpleasant conversations with their children, even grown ones, and given that Sami herself is allegedly feeling bad because she broke the same Commandment her mother did, to not talk about it at all is just awful soap.
Oh, I'm sure they're going to talk about it when Marlena thinks the time is right, but in no way, shape or form, do I think she is going to give Sami a "beatdown" and throw it in her face.

I hope Marlena is a little better than that.

She knows her daughter is a selfish hothead, but she also knows that Sami loves Rafe. I have no doubt Marlena is giving her a little benefit of the doubt considering at the time Sami had her indiscretion, her kid was missing and thought dead and Sami was a bit out of her mind. (moreso than usual)

Just because Sami has been a total jerk to her, doesn't mean she needs to be one right back. This could eventually bring them closer once they do talk about it.
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The beast's bad choices have hurt her children. She should have at least been called out for that.
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