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Wednesday, February 1st Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jan 31 2012, 02:55 PM (7,933 Views)
Skye
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Wednesday, February 1st



Will home looking at his phone at a pic of him and gabi
knock on the door
its sonny
they talk about seeing a movie
devil wears Prada
sonny says his date will want to see it , so
why not watch a movie here
and dont say you are uncomfortable being alone with me
Will says its not that , lately your friends have been thinking , things about me and
how does one know when they are gay
how did you know im curious

Brady at the pub,Madison comes in
he asks her if her and sami came up with new ways to destroy kate
she says she has been thinking alot about what he said and she apologizes
for lying to him

Jennifer, jack and Abigail at the Horton house
Abigail says i have unbelievable news, my life will never be the same
jack says if you tell us you are pregnant , ill make sure that his next job will be as a eunuch in a harem
Abigail tells them she got an internship at mad world
and Madison wants her to be a model too
jack says thats great
jen says i would rather you to be pregnant
(Jennifer's hair is very nice today)

Will says he is sorry
if he doesnt want to talk about it
just curious since we are friends
sonny says without knowing what gay meant,he remembers really liking comic superheros and cute guys on tv
didnt understand it ,but didnt question it either
the way he was the way he was born
the girls came later, noticing guys when he was freshmen in high school,not just the studs just guys
they were with girls, so in order for him to hang out with them, he hung out with girls, ill be with girls too
he fooled them but didnt fool himself
didnt like lying to them and didnt like leading them on, most of all didnt like the lie he was living
every birthday during high school
when it came time to blow out candles he wished gay sonny would go away so he could be like everybody else
hard to believe he felt that way about himself
Will says i get it

abi says you would rather i be pregnant than be a model
jen says no but i dont want you to live on cigarettes and water
and you are in school
abi says i can do both
jen says there is no way
Madison James will understand when you refuse her offer

carrie's law firm cut their funding cuz they werent bringing in enough business to justify the subsidy there were getting
rafe says i guess its official , without that subsidy we are out of business


madison tells brady she is afraid the business with kate is going to make him think twice about us
he says it wont come between us , you are not going to lose me over this
mad says you are right im pulling the plug
not going to have Sami spy for me anymore

sonny says there isnt no ahah moment
lived with hating myself, thought that would be easier than being myself , but i couldnt have been more wrong
i was angry ,hated the fact i was different
i was good at school, good at sports
why couldnt i be good at being straight
Will asks what were you afraid of the most
i was afraid i wasnt going to live the life i had seen for myself
i wanted a wife, kids
house picket fence
it scared me to think i might not have that
will says that would freak me out too
Sonny says the worse part was not having anyone to talk to
i had all this stuff going on in my head and i was afraid if i asked for help that people would know i was gay and i would lose everything i was holding onto . even though it was lie
its hard, i wouldnt wish it on anybody

abi says im not asking for permission
im doing this
Jen says you are not doing any job that involves modelling
Abi explains what Madison is doing
Melanie and her were chosen
jen says i thought you Melanie were no longer friends because of chad
jack says he rather her modelling with Melanie than some muscle bound guy
jen is afraid she might flunk out of school
says i forbid you to take this job

sonny says he would break up with girlfriends when he was
afraid they were close to knowing the score
back in high school he had no friends
walls between him and everyone else
it kills me to think that there are
people out there right now living the same lie i was , they are too afraid their world would end if it came out they were gay
Will says you came out and your family was fine with it
what if somebody comes out and all hell breaks loose
what if telling the truth hurts more people than living a lie?

carrie says if we had more time
i wanted it to work, feel like a failure
he says you are amazing in so many ways
she says you are too
she smiles at him
he says what am i going to do now
work on abes campaign
carrie says she can go back to Switzerland , her law firm left a spot open for her

Abi says you cant forbid me, im a legal adult
jack says she is right,, she doesnt need our permission
but at the same time you need to take
take your mothers concern seriously, you cant let the job get in the way of your school work
she says im still modelling for Madison
jen says no you are not,you are asking for trouble
there are shady people in this world , who want to do creepy things to innocent girls
abi says i know how to take care of myself

im taking this job neither one of you can stop me
Jen says if you take this job this is not your home anymore you can move out

Brady tells Madison he is glad she dropped it
it will be all ok,means alot to me
she says for years all i cared about was making mad world successful
now there is something else i care about and thats you brady
ive never not put buisness first and its all because of you
brady says you and me , it doesnt get much better
she tells him she cares so much about him
he says no one has ever gotten to me in the way that you have
you were so worth the wait

sonny says it isnt always easy when you come out
my friend tyler, had a lot of screaming , he didnt talk to his dad for awhile,but hey are good now
for me coming out meant being free, no more hiding
no more lying no more shame
once you except who you are things get better
im even closer to my family now that they know the truth
will says you make it sound really easy, i want to believe you but i dont

rafe says Switzerland
Carrie says Austin doesnt want to leave town
but they cant survive on his salary alone
rafe doesnt want Carrie to go back to Switzerland


jen says do you expect us to pay tuition for classes that you wont be attending and add wheat grass and tofu our shopping list, while you exist on
black coffee and no sleep , im saying this because i love you
Abi says being kicked to the curb really makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
jen says you have never talked about modelling you were always a tomboy
jack says it did come out of no where
she says this is a chance for me to do something new and exciting with my life
people will notice me and take me seriously
they will see me as a grown woman
and not a little girl
jen says dont you want to be respected?
Abi say says thats why i want to be a model
jen says you want to show people your brain power not your cheek bones
Abi says talking to you is useless
i made up my mind im going to be a model
and if i have to, ill pay for an apartment out of the money i make, im sick of living with your drama anyway
she leaves
jack says to Jennifer
what were you thinking?
She says im Protecting our daughter
do you really want our daughter to be a model
he says yeah if it gets us into parties, no of course not
but we cant decide what job she gets
our daughter just walks out of the house she is leaving so she can start her modelling job
he reminded her of what happened between him and abi and chad
and someone told him to give their daughter her space
we make a mess of our lives from time to time
but we havent messed up our kids, they are good kids
they are smart and responsible , we have to let them make their own mistakes if we dont and decide for them, we can lose them forever
jen says she is afraid
i lost gram
i lost Daniel, i lost you
im not going to lose my little girl
she cries and he hugs her

carrie tried different contacts and no one has any openings for lawyers around the area
she says she loved her job and working with him
i guess we should start packing
rafe says just wait you dont want this to end anymore than i do
cant quit now just getting started
we are going to make this work together

jen says i worry about her travelling, she got kidnapped here
look what happend to him
he says she is not going to model in Kabul and
not travelling alone
jen says im not ready to let her go
he says he isnt either, hates the idea
abi is going to do what she wants whether we like it or not
better not to fight with her
and not lose touch with her all together
jen says wow,you are being the voice of reason
he says and you are listening
she says im listening always jack

brady and Madison go home
she says i have been through a lot of drama in my life more than you know and
there is something i want to tell you
i have been thinking about it a lot
her phone rings


sonny says i didnt lie to you about coming out sometimes its easy sometimes its not
Will says you made it seem like coming out fixes everything from then on life is perfect
Sonny says coming out doesnt guarantee a happily ever after
but you have a better chance of being happy if you dont keep secrets about anything
Will says you knew your family was going to be ok
but not every family is
Sonny says i thought they would be cool,, but i was still afraid to tell them
my brother alex freaked out a bit, cool now, got over it
Will says your parents are awesome your dad is
they took the news like it was great
sonny says they were a little bummed
they were afraid that i could never find love and thats what its all about, finding that special someone to go through life with
you cant find true love if you are not living your own truth

carrie says i dont know how we can keep it going
he says well rent is paid for the month , so we have some time
it takes time to build Clientele, if i have to work over time with Abe ill do it ,,are you with me
she says im with you all the way

madison wont tell him who was on the phone
he says he has to meet an investor
so she can tell him later what she wanted to tell him
he has something to say to her
i love you
i love you
she kisses him and say i love you too
more than anything or anyone
they kiss
he leaves
she says he loves me, brady loves me
she answers her phone

Will says thanks for sharing
sonny says you can ask me or tell me anything
will says so wanna see the movie
sonny says i wasted so much time being afraid of who i really am , what my parents would think if they knew the truth
i felt alone i was afraid and alone and i dont want anyone to feel like that especially a friend cuz i wasnt alone , im not alone
and being afraid is a lot worse than being honest

carrie and rafe laugh about stupid things he could do
he says we will work this out together
she says im really glad

Jennifer sitting in grans chair looking a pic of her an Abi

Abigail at the square sitting on the couch
jack comes
he sits with her by climbing over the back of the couch
and says so the big news is your big news didnt go the way you wanted it to
she says why cant she be happy for me
he says she is going to come around to your way of thinking
in the mean time
it would help if you promised to be careful ,when you are modelling if something doesnt seem right let your mom or me know that would make your mother happy
she says thanks dad for listening and being here
really glad you are home and back in our family again
hugs
he says yeah me too



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MissLola
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Jennifer is a Miserable bitch!!! :flipoff: :moon:
Edited by MissLola, Jan 31 2012, 03:01 PM.
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Dany_E
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She's just scared that Abby will get hurt so she played the "then you'll have to move out" card and it blew up in her face. I try not to be judgmental about stuff, but modelling, imo, is kind of stupid. I wouldn't want my kid doing it. A person is celebrated completely based on what they look like - not talent, not who they are or what they contribute to society, not intelligence, nothing of value except good looks. I'm sure it feels good to the model to know they're empirically attractive but if you invest yourself in being just that, what lengths do you have to go to to maintain it? Diets, surgery, etc. Actors, I guess, go through some of the same stuff but, at least, they "act" - they do something else besides just look pretty.
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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

Jennifer = Worst Mother of the Year...even worse than Scami!
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SocRMum1
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

So...are we officially in to February sweeps yet?

Because...
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Head writer Marlene McPherson and Darrell Ray Thomas Jr. have planned a huge February Sweeps for Salem. "We drop a bombshell everyday," teases Thomas. "You literally can't miss a day because something big will happen."

I'm getting none of that from this episode. :ermm:

Thanks for the write up, Skye!
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

I'm liking the Will and Sonny convo.....
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MissLola
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Not a huge fan of modeling myself and i would never let my young children get involved in that field. However, Abby is a 20 yr old woman and has the right to make her own decisions. Jenn should trust that she raised her daughter to make the right decisions and while she should definitely express her concerns,she should be a little more supportive. It's not like she is involved in a dirty political campaign! :-/
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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

""You literally can't miss a day because something big will happen." - LOLZ...definitely cannot be applied to today's episode!
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

^^In the scheme of things if you miss today's episode, you'll miss the not so subtle way they are telling all of us that Will is in fact gay. I can see if you miss today and then Will kisses a boy later this month, you'd feel a bit shocked.
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SocRMum1
Jan 31 2012, 03:19 PM
So...are we officially in to February sweeps yet?

Because...
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Head writer Marlene McPherson and Darrell Ray Thomas Jr. have planned a huge February Sweeps for Salem. "We drop a bombshell everyday," teases Thomas. "You literally can't miss a day because something big will happen."

I'm getting none of that from this episode. :ermm:

Thanks for the write up, Skye!
Sweeps doesn't start until Feb 2. I'm sure we'll get something HUGE! :sleep:
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Romancer66


TFP, Skye!

Whoa, Jennifer is going way over the top with this anti-modeling stuff. At this point, I'm surprised she's not insisting on a chastity belt for Abigail. Something tells me mother-daughter relations are going to continue to deteriorate, especially when Jennifer's involvement in dirty politics comes out.

Surprised but admittedly amused by Abigail's zinger about being tired of living with Jennifer's drama. Join the club, kiddo.

Jack continues to be the voice of reason, and it really does suit him. I think he's starting to realize something's not quite right with Jennifer, though he hasn't put his finger on it yet.

Jennifer seems to appreciate Jack much more, now that he's walked away. Maybe she finally realized she couldn't keep treating him so coldly and shabbily, because she runs the risk of driving him away permanently. Could have done without the Daniel mention--his temporary absence should be nowhere near the magnitude of Alice's death or Jack's kidnapping. But I suppose all Jennifer sees is people leaving her right and left. Pity she can't seem to see how her own behavior plays a part in some of it, but maybe that's coming, eventually.

The Will/Sonny conversation sounds like it's sensitively done. I have no sympathy for Carrie and Rafe, knowing what's coming. And I hate to say this, but Sami does have a legitimate beef with Madison, who's now left her with her ass hanging in the wind and two highly unpalatable alternatives.
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Will and Sonny :iloveyou:

Their conversation is very special. I can relate with many of the things Sonny said, I found it very touching because it brought back many personal memories from the period I struggled with myself.

Will is such a lucky guy to have Sonny near him.
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Sounds like a decent episode. Nothing crazy happens, but definitely movement and that's all that matters for me. The Will and Sonny scenes seem to be very well-written. Even Jack and Jennifer's scenes with Abigail read like something I'll be interested in.
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I think Jennifer is OTT about the modeling--especially when she said she wished Abby would have been pregnant instead. Who would wish for an innocent baby to be born to someone not ready to devote themselves to caring for it, over their adult daughter being a cosmetic's model? Jennifer's gone crazy.
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Bring back Jack!

Jennifer is acting stranger and stranger..first the dirty tactics for Abe's campaign (which is not something I could see her doing) and now wishing her daughter was pregnant instead of being a model. I know she's been OOC for a fair while but that was just a bizarre comment. Not that I like the Abby as a model anyway. Maybe she really is in the midst of some sort of breakdown - or am I giving the writers too much credit? Yeah probably just bad writing LOL
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This really seems like an episode where Jack and we all should realise Jennifer is slowly losing it. Jennifer´s arguments are clearly overblown and we should see them as such. Wonder how worse she gets after Abe loses the election. Also nice Jack is the most understanding father/ex again. Why he always turns into a neglecting monster only when J/J are offscreen?
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and if i have to, ill pay for an apartment out of the money i make, im sick of living with your drama anyway


Love the zinger. But maybe if she'd spent more time convincing her mother to find her dad and less time convincing her mother to date other men then there wouldn't be so much 'drama'.
Edited by LanaluvsBroe, Jan 31 2012, 04:08 PM.
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While I am usually on team Mitch with this stuff I have to say today I actually enjoyed the Deveraux family meeting. Jack was exactly how I expected him to be, funny with the cracks about pregnancy and men in Abby's life yet serious about the situation, Jennifer over reacted which was a shocker :sarcasm: and I really got more of Abigail's struggle wanting to be seen as an adult. Actually today Abby reminded me a lot of a young Jennifer, rebelling to prove she is an adult. The conversation also seemed more realistic, no over the top screeching but a disagreement between parent and child. I know that this is more of a setup for Abigail’s future behavior but I think it was in character so I am OK with it. Also they have started on the Fix Jennifer Campaign. I could have gone without the Daniel reference but it is a good setup. Jennifer already has abandonment issues so if you look at it as Jennifer lost Alice and almost at the exact time she lost Jack, so she lost her two pillars of strength and support simultaneously. You can also argue she lost JJ to boarding school (I know that was her choice but still) and now Abby wanting to stand on her own it sounds like a breakdown on the horizon and I will take that with a glass of wine and some :popcorn: They also seem to be setting up Jack as the voice of reason which I am behind 100%

My only concern was all that pregnancy banter was that foreshadowing, should I be worried? If Abby has a baby with Austin I will vomit.
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melissablessed
Jan 31 2012, 03:45 PM
I think Jennifer is OTT about the modeling--especially when she said she wished Abby would have been pregnant instead. Who would wish for an innocent baby to be born to someone not ready to devote themselves to caring for it, over their adult daughter being a cosmetic's model? Jennifer's gone crazy.
I'm starting to think that she really has. And maybe that's how TPTB intend to salvage her. And Jennifer going off the rails might make for better drama than Jennifer dithering between Jack and some other guy.
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Today's epi was so -so, lots of dialogue, for CAFE, WILSON & JnJ.. Bradison--- still lots of meaningless kissing --in between "I love you" omissions.

No bombsehells so to speak, lots of layers and subtext for the SLs. -- Only bombshelll what Jennifer was not in bitchifer mode. Writing for her was much softer and more recognisable. (See what happens when Daniel leaves.... she is somewhat normal... it must be him that brings out the worst in her.)

Really, the Jack- Jen stuff was not all that bad. The spoiler should have read, 'Jen and Abby clash over her wanting to model at Mad World Cosmetics, and Jack comes comes the rescue'. Strangely enough, TPTB jump right into the scene, Jack and Jen are at the Horton House, seemingly already in conversation. Strange, what they would be doing here together, if he's backed away from the love triangle, he obviously is not good at keeping away from her otherwise. Jennifer finally had good looking hair & clothes today and her bitchifer mode was really tame. The pregnant comments started with Jack, not so funny dad, then Jennifer makes snarky comments out of it, when she hears Abby's news. Jennifer overreacts about Abby's news, but it is not outrageous. I was not jaw dropping at her performance. Jennifer is more emotional about losing her daughter/growing up and as a mother can relate. Good old Jack kept it together, loved it! He is the voice of reason and really does a good job talking to Jennifer, just like old times. I also loved MA and KM in their final scene at HTS. I think they have really great chemistry, their scene was very touching. Dad & daughter relationship is now back on track, like it should be. So glad that Jack is huggable today, it is nice to see him able to react and reach out. Definitely a change, from when he first came back. (Thank god, Marlena took him to see the vets.... epi changing for Jack's character)
Can't say anymore, you'll have to watch.... but the epi was mostly about them, with WILSON next in line.

WILSON -- I liked Sonny today, more than usually, Will was very low key and very listening. I assume that the 2 of them could hook up down the line and it would be just fine by me.

CAFE-- needed the barf bag, bothered me with all their scoot around talk. Just do it!!! If neither wants to go home to see their spouse, then they should have out a couch in the office, maybe there is one there and I just didn't see it.

Bradison-- I Love you.... not a shocker... TPTB are going in for the set-up... just waiting for a blowup on this. Wait to see what other lies she's going to tell or hide from Brady. I predict Brady is going to hit the bottle soon.
Edited by Dreamer, Jan 31 2012, 05:11 PM.
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