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Topic Started: Jan 31 2012, 02:55 PM (7,935 Views)
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niki51586
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Jan 31 2012, 10:32 PM
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Love Will and Sonny. Oh can I also add it was nice to hear Jennifer use the word "us" when commenting about taking care of Abby financially.
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Feb 1 2012, 03:18 AM
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I have made no secret of my disgust for current Jennifer, but the more I am seeing and reading...could these "writers" have Jennifer slowly losing her grip like her mother? That would be a sad but interesting (something this show needs) twist.
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Feb 1 2012, 04:28 AM
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The spoilers made Jennifer's reaction seem a lot worse. While threatening to kick Abby out is still highly OOC, seemed clear that Jennifer totally overreacted and didn't mean half of what she said. I actually found a lot to enjoy about the scenes: Abby's retort about being sick of Jennifer's drama is pretty significant, as is Jack and Abby siding over Jennifer like they always have in the past; Jack being the voice of reason and Jennifer's comment about listening is pretty great, too; and finally, the terrific Jack and Abby scene at the end, while Jennifer sits alone at home with a photo of her and Abby. I was worried that Abby's future actions would somehow be blamed on Jack giving her his blessing, but I can't see how when he's stressing the importance of being responsible and careful, and just being a good dad to his grown daughter. Who knows.
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Feb 1 2012, 09:46 AM
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The spoilers made Jennifer's reaction seem a lot worse. While threatening to kick Abby out is still highly OOC, seemed clear that Jennifer totally overreacted and didn't mean half of what she said. I actually found a lot to enjoy about the scenes: Abby's retort about being sick of Jennifer's drama is pretty significant, as is Jack and Abby siding over Jennifer like they always have in the past; Jack being the voice of reason and Jennifer's comment about listening is pretty great, too; and finally, the terrific Jack and Abby scene at the end, while Jennifer sits alone at home with a photo of her and Abby. I was worried that Abby's future actions would somehow be blamed on Jack giving her his blessing, but I can't see how when he's stressing the importance of being responsible and careful, and just being a good dad to his grown daughter. Who knows. Watched a few of the Day Ahead clips. I kind of enjoyed the identical WTF? expressions Jack and Abigail got after Jennifer said she'd rather Abigail was pregnant than a model. And the simultaneous "Dad!" "Jack!" protests when Jack declared that he was forbidding anyone to think of his daughter as a grown woman. Those moments felt very believable in a familial way.
Jennifer seemed . . . almost normal. Softer, somehow--it was hard to believe she's been bitching Jack out on a far too frequent basis or dissolving in puddles of tears over Daniel every time he walks away. But her reaction to Abigail's news was still pretty extreme, and Jack's bewildered "Jennifer, what were you thinking?" after Abigail stormed out seems a clear indication that all is not well with her. On a less serious note, her hair looked better--that bun was really aging her--and she was wearing some nice colors today, though horizontal stripes are pretty unforgiving to anyone who weighs more than eighty pounds soaking wet.
I'd have liked some explanation of what Jack was doing over at the Horton House. Discussing JJ with Jennifer? Having his brain picked about politics? Since he's made it clear he's distancing himself from Jennifer, romantically, and he left her with Daniel the last time they were onscreen together, a few seconds setting up why they were interacting would have helped.
Jack keeping a level head, while still expressing some reservations about Abigail's choices, was great. We may not be getting to see many of his therapy sessions, but we can infer that they're working, because he's more stable, emotionally, than when he first came back. And more stable than Jennifer in her current incarnation, which Jack may be starting to realize. He hasn't identified the problem yet, but he's sensing that something is "off" with her. I wonder if he'll be around to witness her continued moral deterioration over the election, and how he'll react if he sees it.
I don't think Jack's being more open about Abigail's modeling is going to be to blame for what she does with regard to Austin--it would be a stretch to say so, in any case. Abigail's desperate for Austin's attention, and if there was no modeling gig, she'd be trying to get it some other way. I'm more concerned about how Jack and Jennifer will react when they discover the daughter they think of as smart and responsible is lying and scheming to break up a friend's marriage, which isn't something either of them would do or encourage, if they knew.
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Feb 1 2012, 10:24 AM
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Really wonderful to see Will and Sonny have this heart to heart. I thought it was well done and the guys came off totally natural. I like the emphasis finally being put on Will struggling with coming out. Those two definitely have the exact right touch of chemistry.
The Jack, Jennifer, Abby scenes were good too. I liked the whole family dynamic on display. Great to see Jack stepping in there for Abby. I like their father/daughter relationship and hope we see more time spent on scenes with them together. Yes, yes, yes to Jennifer without the grandma bun! For awhile there I thought she needed a shawl and a cane to complete her look.
Can we please break up Carrie and Rafe already? I'm completely annoyed by both of them - and this stupid relationship is just beginning? Oh writers quit with the torture! Release Rafe and Carrie from this horrible plot pushing dribble and give them something worthy of their characters. (Keeping them true to who they are might also be a refreshing change too.)
Bradison are in love, who would have ever thunk it? This great love affair for Brady has been anything but great. I'm losing hope we'll ever see beautiful, sweeping romances again with MarDar at the wheel.
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Feb 1 2012, 11:46 AM
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Great JnJ Epi! Couple of interesting comments. I like TPTB giving Jack and Jen a 'mom & dad' feel and showing us a friendship that exist between them.
Jack as voice of reason and no longer grovelling and swooning at Jennifer's feet. Jennifer: 'I'm listening....always Jack'.... such on odd comment.
Jack saying 'we may have messed up our lives from time to time, but we haven't mess up our kids, they are good kids'..... now this might just come back and bite him in the ass. Esp. when they find out about Abby scheming and lying about sleeping with Austin, they are going to see just how messed up she is.
Jennifer better wake up.... she cries about losing Alice/Gram.... Daniel.... and Jack..... JACK.... YOU DIDN'T LOSE JACK..... HE IS STANDING RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. HE'S MAY HAVE BEEN LOST... BUT NOW HE IS FOUND....AND IS THERE FOR YOU! --- okay I didn't see any real sign of Jennifer's mental frailty......more acturately, signs of a nervous breakdown. They fixed her hair and clothes.... ppl losing touch using don't pay attention to these details. Not sure TPTB that be are going this route.
What is a Nervous Breakdown? A nervous breakdown can be described as an acute emotional or psychological collapse. It generally occurs when a person is unable to function in social roles anymore, experiencing severe depression or feelings of being out of touch with reality. This often occurs after a long period of stress which has not been adequately dealt with.This inability to function can occur in both work and personal arenas, resulting in difficulty in fulfilling obligations. A person experiencing symptoms of a nervous breakdown may feel extreme tiredness, weakness, episodes of uncontrollable crying, confusion, disorientation and feelings of worthlessness. There may also be a loss of self-esteem and confidence, extreme weight loss or weight gain, disrupted sleep patterns and feelings of guilt and despair.
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Feb 1 2012, 12:16 PM
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Great JnJ Epi! Couple of interesting comments. I like TPTB giving Jack and Jen a 'mom & dad' feel and showing us a friendship that exist between them.
Jack as voice of reason and no longer grovelling and swooning at Jennifer's feet. Jennifer: 'I'm listening....always Jack'.... such on odd comment.
Jack saying 'we may have messed up our lives from time to time, but we haven't mess up our kids, they are good kids'..... now this might just come back and bite him in the ass. Esp. when they find out about Abby scheming and lying about sleeping with Austin, they are going to see just how messed up she is.
Jennifer better wake up.... she cries about losing Alice/Gram.... Daniel.... and Jack..... JACK.... YOU DIDN'T LOSE JACK..... HE IS STANDING RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. HE'S MAY HAVE BEEN LOST... BUT NOW HE IS FOUND....AND IS THERE FOR YOU! --- okay I didn't see any real sign of Jennifer's mental frailty......more acturately, signs of a nervous breakdown. They fixed her hair and clothes.... ppl losing touch using don't pay attention to these details. Not sure TPTB that be are going this route.
What is a Nervous Breakdown? A nervous breakdown can be described as an acute emotional or psychological collapse. It generally occurs when a person is unable to function in social roles anymore, experiencing severe depression or feelings of being out of touch with reality. This often occurs after a long period of stress which has not been adequately dealt with.This inability to function can occur in both work and personal arenas, resulting in difficulty in fulfilling obligations. A person experiencing symptoms of a nervous breakdown may feel extreme tiredness, weakness, episodes of uncontrollable crying, confusion, disorientation and feelings of worthlessness. There may also be a loss of self-esteem and confidence, extreme weight loss or weight gain, disrupted sleep patterns and feelings of guilt and despair. Jennifer's not being able to choose which man she wants to be with could be interpreted as a failure to fulfill an obligation. Both men deserved to know where they stood with her, and she kept both of them in limbo until they both had enough and walked away. And let's not even get started on how she's failed to stand by Jack during his therapy as a wife, a friend, or even a concerned co-parent. She's not functioning that well as Abe's campaign manager, either. Until Abe himself came up with the idea of switching debate questions, Team Carver was being whipped by Team DiMera regularly. We've heard she's going to veer even further off-course and start lying to get votes, which is something else she wasn't hired to do. She cries continually over losing Alice, Daniel, Jack, and now possibly Abigail. She was deeply stung by Nicole's accusation that she chased Jack and Daniel off, which could count as a blow to her self-esteem. Most of the time, she seems to be either morose or bitchy, seldom showing pleasure or happiness. And to be fair, she has had a stressful year: a dead grandmother, a husband who was MIA and now has PTSD, heart surgery, a hasty divorce, a boyfriend who dumps her whenever he feels insecure (which is about every other week), a change of careers, and now a rebellious college-age daughter.
The full collapse might not have taken place yet, but I get the feeling that Jennifer is circling the drain.
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Feb 1 2012, 12:23 PM
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I hope that this episode is the start of some serious softening of Jennifer...or if not, then go full bore with the cray-cray story for her.
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Feb 1 2012, 01:04 PM
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Great JnJ Epi! Couple of interesting comments. I like TPTB giving Jack and Jen a 'mom & dad' feel and showing us a friendship that exist between them.
Jack as voice of reason and no longer grovelling and swooning at Jennifer's feet. Jennifer: 'I'm listening....always Jack'.... such on odd comment.
Jack saying 'we may have messed up our lives from time to time, but we haven't mess up our kids, they are good kids'..... now this might just come back and bite him in the ass. Esp. when they find out about Abby scheming and lying about sleeping with Austin, they are going to see just how messed up she is.
Jennifer better wake up.... she cries about losing Alice/Gram.... Daniel.... and Jack..... JACK.... YOU DIDN'T LOSE JACK..... HE IS STANDING RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU. HE'S MAY HAVE BEEN LOST... BUT NOW HE IS FOUND....AND IS THERE FOR YOU! --- okay I didn't see any real sign of Jennifer's mental frailty......more acturately, signs of a nervous breakdown. They fixed her hair and clothes.... ppl losing touch using don't pay attention to these details. Not sure TPTB that be are going this route.
What is a Nervous Breakdown? A nervous breakdown can be described as an acute emotional or psychological collapse. It generally occurs when a person is unable to function in social roles anymore, experiencing severe depression or feelings of being out of touch with reality. This often occurs after a long period of stress which has not been adequately dealt with.This inability to function can occur in both work and personal arenas, resulting in difficulty in fulfilling obligations. A person experiencing symptoms of a nervous breakdown may feel extreme tiredness, weakness, episodes of uncontrollable crying, confusion, disorientation and feelings of worthlessness. There may also be a loss of self-esteem and confidence, extreme weight loss or weight gain, disrupted sleep patterns and feelings of guilt and despair.
Jennifer's not being able to choose which man she wants to be with could be interpreted as a failure to fulfill an obligation. Both men deserved to know where they stood with her, and she kept both of them in limbo until they both had enough and walked away. And let's not even get started on how she's failed to stand by Jack during his therapy as a wife, a friend, or even a concerned co-parent. She's not functioning that well as Abe's campaign manager, either. Until Abe himself came up with the idea of switching debate questions, Team Carver was being whipped by Team DiMera regularly. We've heard she's going to veer even further off-course and start lying to get votes, which is something else she wasn't hired to do. She cries continually over losing Alice, Daniel, Jack, and now possibly Abigail. She was deeply stung by Nicole's accusation that she chased Jack and Daniel off, which could count as a blow to her self-esteem. Most of the time, she seems to be either morose or bitchy, seldom showing pleasure or happiness. And to be fair, she has had a stressful year: a dead grandmother, a husband who was MIA and now has PTSD, heart surgery, a hasty divorce, a boyfriend who dumps her whenever he feels insecure (which is about every other week), a change of careers, and now a rebellious college-age daughter. The full collapse might not have taken place yet, but I get the feeling that Jennifer is circling the drain. Great post!! ITA with all points made. Hoping to see her on an emotional roller coaster.... that takes her down this road.
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Feb 1 2012, 01:13 PM
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Wednesday, February 1st
Will home looking at his phone at a pic of him and gabi knock on the door its sonny they talk about seeing a movie devil wears Prada sonny says his date will want to see it , so why not watch a movie here and dont say you are uncomfortable being alone with me Will says its not that , lately your friends have been thinking , things about me and how does one know when they are gay how did you know im curious
Brady at the pub,Madison comes in he asks her if her and sami came up with new ways to destroy kate she says she has been thinking alot about what he said and she apologizes for lying to him
Jennifer, jack and Abigail at the Horton house Abigail says i have unbelievable news, my life will never be the same jack says if you tell us you are pregnant , ill make sure that his next job will be as a eunuch in a harem Abigail tells them she got an internship at mad world and Madison wants her to be a model too jack says thats great jen says i would rather you to be pregnant (Jennifer's hair is very nice today)
Will says he is sorry if he doesnt want to talk about it just curious since we are friends sonny says without knowing what gay meant,he remembers really liking comic superheros and cute guys on tv didnt understand it ,but didnt question it either the way he was the way he was born the girls came later, noticing guys when he was freshmen in high school,not just the studs just guys they were with girls, so in order for him to hang out with them, he hung out with girls, ill be with girls too he fooled them but didnt fool himself didnt like lying to them and didnt like leading them on, most of all didnt like the lie he was living every birthday during high school when it came time to blow out candles he wished gay sonny would go away so he could be like everybody else hard to believe he felt that way about himself Will says i get it
abi says you would rather i be pregnant than be a model jen says no but i dont want you to live on cigarettes and water and you are in school abi says i can do both jen says there is no way Madison James will understand when you refuse her offer
carrie's law firm cut their funding cuz they werent bringing in enough business to justify the subsidy there were getting rafe says i guess its official , without that subsidy we are out of business
madison tells brady she is afraid the business with kate is going to make him think twice about us he says it wont come between us , you are not going to lose me over this mad says you are right im pulling the plug not going to have Sami spy for me anymore
sonny says there isnt no ahah moment lived with hating myself, thought that would be easier than being myself , but i couldnt have been more wrong i was angry ,hated the fact i was different i was good at school, good at sports why couldnt i be good at being straight Will asks what were you afraid of the most i was afraid i wasnt going to live the life i had seen for myself i wanted a wife, kids house picket fence it scared me to think i might not have that will says that would freak me out too Sonny says the worse part was not having anyone to talk to i had all this stuff going on in my head and i was afraid if i asked for help that people would know i was gay and i would lose everything i was holding onto . even though it was lie its hard, i wouldnt wish it on anybody
abi says im not asking for permission im doing this Jen says you are not doing any job that involves modelling Abi explains what Madison is doing Melanie and her were chosen jen says i thought you Melanie were no longer friends because of chad jack says he rather her modelling with Melanie than some muscle bound guy jen is afraid she might flunk out of school says i forbid you to take this job
sonny says he would break up with girlfriends when he was afraid they were close to knowing the score back in high school he had no friends walls between him and everyone else it kills me to think that there are people out there right now living the same lie i was , they are too afraid their world would end if it came out they were gay Will says you came out and your family was fine with it what if somebody comes out and all hell breaks loose what if telling the truth hurts more people than living a lie?
carrie says if we had more time i wanted it to work, feel like a failure he says you are amazing in so many ways she says you are too she smiles at him he says what am i going to do now work on abes campaign carrie says she can go back to Switzerland , her law firm left a spot open for her
Abi says you cant forbid me, im a legal adult jack says she is right,, she doesnt need our permission but at the same time you need to take take your mothers concern seriously, you cant let the job get in the way of your school work she says im still modelling for Madison jen says no you are not,you are asking for trouble there are shady people in this world , who want to do creepy things to innocent girls abi says i know how to take care of myself
im taking this job neither one of you can stop me Jen says if you take this job this is not your home anymore you can move out
Brady tells Madison he is glad she dropped it it will be all ok,means alot to me she says for years all i cared about was making mad world successful now there is something else i care about and thats you brady ive never not put buisness first and its all because of you brady says you and me , it doesnt get much better she tells him she cares so much about him he says no one has ever gotten to me in the way that you have you were so worth the wait
sonny says it isnt always easy when you come out my friend tyler, had a lot of screaming , he didnt talk to his dad for awhile,but hey are good now for me coming out meant being free, no more hiding no more lying no more shame once you except who you are things get better im even closer to my family now that they know the truth will says you make it sound really easy, i want to believe you but i dont
rafe says Switzerland Carrie says Austin doesnt want to leave town but they cant survive on his salary alone rafe doesnt want Carrie to go back to Switzerland
jen says do you expect us to pay tuition for classes that you wont be attending and add wheat grass and tofu our shopping list, while you exist on black coffee and no sleep , im saying this because i love you Abi says being kicked to the curb really makes me all warm and fuzzy inside jen says you have never talked about modelling you were always a tomboy jack says it did come out of no where she says this is a chance for me to do something new and exciting with my life people will notice me and take me seriously they will see me as a grown woman and not a little girl jen says dont you want to be respected? Abi say says thats why i want to be a model jen says you want to show people your brain power not your cheek bones Abi says talking to you is useless i made up my mind im going to be a model and if i have to, ill pay for an apartment out of the money i make, im sick of living with your drama anyway she leaves jack says to Jennifer what were you thinking? She says im Protecting our daughter do you really want our daughter to be a model he says yeah if it gets us into parties, no of course not but we cant decide what job she gets our daughter just walks out of the house she is leaving so she can start her modelling job he reminded her of what happened between him and abi and chad and someone told him to give their daughter her space we make a mess of our lives from time to time but we havent messed up our kids, they are good kids they are smart and responsible , we have to let them make their own mistakes if we dont and decide for them, we can lose them forever jen says she is afraid i lost gram i lost Daniel, i lost you im not going to lose my little girl she cries and he hugs her
carrie tried different contacts and no one has any openings for lawyers around the area she says she loved her job and working with him i guess we should start packing rafe says just wait you dont want this to end anymore than i do cant quit now just getting started we are going to make this work together
jen says i worry about her travelling, she got kidnapped here look what happend to him he says she is not going to model in Kabul and not travelling alone jen says im not ready to let her go he says he isnt either, hates the idea abi is going to do what she wants whether we like it or not better not to fight with her and not lose touch with her all together jen says wow,you are being the voice of reason he says and you are listening she says im listening always jack
brady and Madison go home she says i have been through a lot of drama in my life more than you know and there is something i want to tell you i have been thinking about it a lot her phone rings
sonny says i didnt lie to you about coming out sometimes its easy sometimes its not Will says you made it seem like coming out fixes everything from then on life is perfect Sonny says coming out doesnt guarantee a happily ever after but you have a better chance of being happy if you dont keep secrets about anything Will says you knew your family was going to be ok but not every family is Sonny says i thought they would be cool,, but i was still afraid to tell them my brother alex freaked out a bit, cool now, got over it Will says your parents are awesome your dad is they took the news like it was great sonny says they were a little bummed they were afraid that i could never find love and thats what its all about, finding that special someone to go through life with you cant find true love if you are not living your own truth
carrie says i dont know how we can keep it going he says well rent is paid for the month , so we have some time it takes time to build Clientele, if i have to work over time with Abe ill do it ,,are you with me she says im with you all the way
madison wont tell him who was on the phone he says he has to meet an investor so she can tell him later what she wanted to tell him he has something to say to her i love you i love you she kisses him and say i love you too more than anything or anyone they kiss he leaves she says he loves me, brady loves me she answers her phone
Will says thanks for sharing sonny says you can ask me or tell me anything will says so wanna see the movie sonny says i wasted so much time being afraid of who i really am , what my parents would think if they knew the truth i felt alone i was afraid and alone and i dont want anyone to feel like that especially a friend cuz i wasnt alone , im not alone and being afraid is a lot worse than being honest
carrie and rafe laugh about stupid things he could do he says we will work this out together she says im really glad
Jennifer sitting in grans chair looking a pic of her an Abi
Abigail at the square sitting on the couch jack comes he sits with her by climbing over the back of the couch and says so the big news is your big news didnt go the way you wanted it to she says why cant she be happy for me he says she is going to come around to your way of thinking in the mean time it would help if you promised to be careful ,when you are modelling if something doesnt seem right let your mom or me know that would make your mother happy she says thanks dad for listening and being here really glad you are home and back in our family again hugs he says yeah me too
Can someone fill me in on Sonny's brother Alex?
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Enjoyed watching Jack and Jennifer today and she seemed softer less cranky and Matt threw in a few humourous lines. Why is Matt not on more then once a week? They give these other boring characters so much air time and Matt doesn't have a story with continuity. I want some airtime for Jack and Jennifer together, Jennifer redeemed and fight to earn Jack back and then some Jack and Jennifer romance, chemistry and humour. Why don't the writers understand what we want to see??? These two are exciting when written properly. Discouraged after all these months that the writers are wasting Matthew Ashford and Jack and Jennifer supercouple dynamic.
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Feb 1 2012, 01:48 PM
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I absolutely love Will and Sonny! They have terrific chemistry and I will wait however long to see these two get together. :wub:
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Feb 1 2012, 02:20 PM
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Can someone fill me in on Sonny's brother Alex? Alexander is Justin and Adrienne's oldest son. His biological mother is Anjelica Deveraux (Jack's step-mother). He was conceived during a fling between Justin and Anjelica which occurred while Justin and Adrienne were separated. Anjelica didn't tell Justin until well after Alexander was born. Long story short, Anjelica and Alexander were presumed dead in a plane crash for awhile, but then it was revealed that they were alive and Anjelica sent Alexander to live with Justin and Adrienne.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:23 PM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- cyndabell
- Jan 31 2012, 07:02 PM
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- Jan 31 2012, 06:34 PM
The Will/Sonny convo also seems to negate the theory that Will knows he's gay. He's too busy asking Sonny for all the signs. Sonny really mentioned some things that I wish we could've seen with Will, such as noticing really cute and studly guys.
I've never thought Will "knew" he was gay anyway, at least not in the sense of openly acknowledging it to himself. It's clear that he's still in denial about it -- not just to other people, but to himself. This story has never been about Will knowing he was gay and hiding it. This story is about realizing who he really is and coming to terms with it. His conversation with Sonny is the clearest sign that he's finally starting to not be able to deny it to himself anymore. Asking Sonny how he knew is perfectly consistent with the idea that Will is finally recognizing some things in himself.
Maybe you didn't think Will knew he was gay but there have been myriads of people all around the net who felt certain he already knew. I haven't noticed that at all from posters around here - but perhaps that is true elsewhere.
The very fact they had Will and Gabi consummate their relationship and Will have such a huge reaction to their breakup was a clear indication to me that Will was in denial. I like the way they've played this thus far - having Will slowly but surely come to accept it and then have to grapple with what that means for him. I do think the pace of the story has been slow, but there has never been any doubt in my mind that Will is coming to terms with his sexual preference first and foremost - and then coming out to other people will follow.
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Wow. There was SO much I loved about this episode. Will & Sonny were a definitely highlight with some very natural and realistic dialogue. I was impressed by how none of it sounded like a generic PSA even though it could VERY easily have slipped into that territory. Nice random mention of Alex, who we haven't seen since he was a baby. IMO, hellion Alex would be a nice addition to the show (especially since his mother is Anjelica Devereaux, he has a bad gene). I had to laugh because when Sonny started his "When I blew out the candles, I really wanted..." story, I wasn't quite sure where that was going to go. :laugh:
Madison & Brady are SO FUCKING BORING. They're entirely generic and there's NO EMOTION to them at all. They come on my screen & I feel NOTHING. A 1st profession of love for what's being groomed and pimped as DAYS next "StuperCouple" should've been handled with more importance that what would be given to Brady announcing that he has gas. And WTF was Madison wearing? She looked like she was dressed to appear in a Bel Biv Devoe video. Someone should tell her the 1990s called and want their clothes back.
I continue to like Rafe & Carrie. Although their storyline is ridiculous and contrived as all get out, I like their chemistry and they never fail to make me smile. Although I like Carrie & Austin, I like Rafe & Carrie. And Rafe has INFINITELY more chemistry with Carrie than he's ever had with Sami.
Jack/Jennifer/Abby were another HIGHLIGHT today. Yes, Jenn was written as a shrewing psycho shrew today. The difference between today and all the other times is that today I actually think she was written that way on purpose. Previously, when she slipped into shrew mode, I don't think that was the result the writers intended, but today I believe it was. At one point, Jack looked at Jennifer like "WTF are you going through, woman?!" I nearly choked on my coffee when Abby was like "You've been watching too many movies on Lifetime" and "I'm tired of your drama!" And, of course, there was Jack trying to be supportive of both while also trying to diffuse a difficult situation with his characteristic sarcasm & self-depreciating humor. By the end of their scenes, Jennifer her changed from shreaking harpy to a self-reflective and confused mess while Jack became the mature voice of reason and the duo have some VERY charactistic moments and the "Jack & Jennifer" I've always loved.
I thought today was a solid episode (Madison/Brady and Rafe/Carrie notwithstanding, but I believe the script writer did what they were supposed to do with those scenes. clearly you can only do so much with an uninspiring breakdown). I thought the last 2 episodes were REALLY good and had a SIGNIFICANTLY different tone than anything over the last few months. I wonder if this might be Liza deCozette's influence.
Today's episode was directed by Karen Wilkens and written by Peter T. Rich.
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Feb 1 2012, 02:46 PM
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Karen Wilkins? Hmm never seen her listed as a director before...is she new?
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Karen Wilkins? Hmm never seen her listed as a director before...is she new? She last directed an episode on 1/3 (her only episode in January), but no episodes in December. She might new, but she might be just a part-time/occasional fill-in. Not sure.
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Loved, loved, loved the Will and Sonny scenes. I felt for both characters. I would imagine it's emotional for Sonny to relate all of that and you really have to feel for Will and his internal struggle. Again, it was so obvious that Sonny knows/suspects and wants Will to tell him. There were a lot of "I'm here for you" type lines even though those exact words were never actually uttered.
Jack/Jen/Abigail - While I can totally understand Jen's objections to modeling, her reaction was way over the top. THREATENING a child with consequences rarely works and if that child is actually an adult, forget it. Of course Jack was the voice of reason. The final Jack/Abigail scene was so touching, but you could still see the difficulty Jack has being physically close to someone, even hugging his daughter.
Brady/Madison - I really like Brady, but Madison has not sparked much interest in me at all. Maybe that will change with the introduction of Ian.
Rafe/Carrie - Their scenes just seemed like filler to me. I guess I'm a bit luke-warm on them.
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Feb 1 2012, 04:02 PM
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- Jan 31 2012, 04:43 PM
Today's epi was so -so, lots of dialogue, for CAFE, WILSON & JnJ.. Bradison--- still lots of meaningless kissing --in between "I love you" omissions.
No bombsehells so to speak, lots of layers and subtext for the SLs. -- Only bombshelll what Jennifer was not in bitchifer mode. Writing for her was much softer and more recognisable. (See what happens when Daniel leaves.... she is somewhat normal... it must be him that brings out the worst in her.)
Really, the Jack- Jen stuff was not all that bad. The spoiler should have read, 'Jen and Abby clash over her wanting to model at Mad World Cosmetics, and Jack comes comes the rescue'. Strangely enough, TPTB jump right into the scene, Jack and Jen are at the Horton House, seemingly already in conversation. Strange, what they would be doing here together, if he's backed away from the love triangle, he obviously is not good at keeping away from her otherwise. Jennifer finally had good looking hair & clothes today and her bitchifer mode was really tame. The pregnant comments started with Jack, not so funny dad, then Jennifer makes snarky comments out of it, when she hears Abby's news. Jennifer overreacts about Abby's news, but it is not outrageous. I was not jaw dropping at her performance. Jennifer is more emotional about losing her daughter/growing up and as a mother can relate. Good old Jack kept it together, loved it! He is the voice of reason and really does a good job talking to Jennifer, just like old times. I also loved MA and KM in their final scene at HTS. I think they have really great chemistry, their scene was very touching. Dad & daughter relationship is now back on track, like it should be. So glad that Jack is huggable today, it is nice to see him able to react and reach out. Definitely a change, from when he first came back. (Thank god, Marlena took him to see the vets.... epi changing for Jack's character) Can't say anymore, you'll have to watch.... but the epi was mostly about them, with WILSON next in line.
WILSON -- I liked Sonny today, more than usually, Will was very low key and very listening. I assume that the 2 of them could hook up down the line and it would be just fine by me.
CAFE-- needed the barf bag, bothered me with all their scoot around talk. Just do it!!! If neither wants to go home to see their spouse, then they should have out a couch in the office, maybe there is one there and I just didn't see it.
Bradison-- I Love you.... not a shocker... TPTB are going in for the set-up... just waiting for a blowup on this. Wait to see what other lies she's going to tell or hide from Brady. I predict Brady is going to hit the bottle soon. I hope you're right about all of this!
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Feb 1 2012, 04:09 PM
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- Feb 1 2012, 12:23 PM
I hope that this episode is the start of some serious softening of Jennifer...or if not, then go full bore with the cray-cray story for her. I would love it if they went full cray cray with her. It would redeem her and give her a better s/l than standing cross armed at the Dimansion while Abe shuffles papers! (and no doubt keep her away from Dr. Perv)
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