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SOD/SOW: Sami Kicks Rafe Out!; 2/14/12 Issue
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Topic Started: Feb 1 2012, 11:29 PM (10,629 Views)
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Feb 2 2012, 02:14 PM
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I guess it's more acceptable to cheat on your husband and sleep with the bastard that "ruined your life" then it is to kiss your sister-in-law! :huh:
But that "bastard" is still someone she once cared for and shares two children with. They have a past, good and bad. No one said anything about it being acceptable, but it isn't like she has been making googly eyes at him/spending time with him/connecting emotionally with him. She knows it was a mistake and is disgusted with herself. And she didn't "sleep" with him. She had meaningless sex for three minutes during extreme emotional grief. They didn't even finish for heaven's sake. Rafe and Carrie don't look disgusted. They look like they need a cigarette.
If Sami knows it was a mistake and meaningless why didn't she tell her husband? :shrug: Has there ever been a time where the phrase "I had sex with my ex/our worst enemy, but it doesn't count because it meant nothing! We didn't even finish!" has gone over well?
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Feb 2 2012, 02:15 PM
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I guess it's more acceptable to cheat on your husband and sleep with the bastard that "ruined your life" then it is to kiss your sister-in-law! :huh: Both are bad. But Rafe and Carrie are developing feelings for each other..That's cuts deep..
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Feb 2 2012, 02:18 PM
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I find no real reason to get upset with all the bedmate switching. Soapier soaps always have this. Have you been to Genoa City lately??? So many partner swaps and tradesies over the years.... DAYS is very believable... very few characters are ever left with their integrity in tack, that's just a given. The problem for DAYS vs the Y&R, is that they have too many supercouple relationships and that makes it hard to swap spit between just anyone. CAFE is such a good example... they could have been written 10x better, that is TPTB's fault, but the idea that it would and could happen is okay. Happy couples floating around Salem is not an viable option...they have to spend more time on story development, angst, character introspection. Hell, it could have been just as exciting to watch Rafe or Carrie have romantic fantasies about one another, rather than contrived attraction on set. I know they are doing with they Abby --Austin, but still it is a rush and the fantasies are not really romantic, they are intense from the get go. RUSH, RUSH, RUSH!! Days needs to slow down. Hot to cold in less than a second. The SL ideas are good, execution of the SL is the problem. Throwing Rafe out... what good is that... it would have been better for him to sleep on the couch for a while and let us see the emotions, actions and reactions going on between them. I think Sami and Rafe still love one another... even if it is not the ultimate relationship. Sami is in a bad place with her life so mess up and Rafe is just not able to figure out what's going on. There is enough drama for this couple alone... if TPTB would spend a little time.
yes,but this isnt YR and BB..let them have the whole incest hookups in the family crap..this is days...and i believe they have the most beautiful couples that after many yrs,their love still stayed strong..i dont want days to turn to daily sleazy sex!!!!no!!!
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Feb 2 2012, 02:19 PM
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Personally I don't care about either event, either Sami's or Rafe's. It's a contrived plot to pit Sami and Carrie against eachother! Never mind the fact that Rafe and Carrie have like zero chemistry. :P
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Feb 2 2012, 02:21 PM
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I guess it's more acceptable to cheat on your husband and sleep with the bastard that "ruined your life" then it is to kiss your sister-in-law! :huh:
But that "bastard" is still someone she once cared for and shares two children with. They have a past, good and bad. No one said anything about it being acceptable, but it isn't like she has been making googly eyes at him/spending time with him/connecting emotionally with him. She knows it was a mistake and is disgusted with herself. And she didn't "sleep" with him. She had meaningless sex for three minutes during extreme emotional grief. They didn't even finish for heaven's sake. Rafe and Carrie don't look disgusted. They look like they need a cigarette.
If Sami knows it was a mistake and meaningless why didn't she tell her husband? :shrug: You're kidding right?
No one ever tells on soaps. Where's the drama in that?
Why doesn't EJ tell Nicole about Sami? Why didn't Marlena come out and tell John about Stefano's IOU? Why didn't Nicole tell EJ about the babyswitch? Because they knew their significant others would be PISSED.
Sami knows she did something horrible and she doesn't want to lose Rafe.
Have you ever done something really bad in a relationship and had to tell the other person about it?
Well, I have. And it sucked.
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Feb 2 2012, 02:24 PM
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I guess it's more acceptable to cheat on your husband and sleep with the bastard that "ruined your life" then it is to kiss your sister-in-law! :huh:
Both are bad. But Rafe and Carrie are developing feelings for each other..That's cuts deep.. I agree both are bad. But to me it's just another example of Sami being a hypocrite. :shrug:
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Feb 2 2012, 02:58 PM
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Oh shut up, Sami.
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Feb 2 2012, 03:00 PM
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no,rafe should shut the fuck up!!!!go smooch off with carrie so sami can finally leave his sorry ass!!!
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Feb 2 2012, 03:07 PM
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I find no real reason to get upset with all the bedmate switching. Soapier soaps always have this. Have you been to Genoa City lately??? So many partner swaps and tradesies over the years.... DAYS is very believable... very few characters are ever left with their integrity in tack, that's just a given. The problem for DAYS vs the Y&R, is that they have too many supercouple relationships and that makes it hard to swap spit between just anyone. CAFE is such a good example... they could have been written 10x better, that is TPTB's fault, but the idea that it would and could happen is okay. Happy couples floating around Salem is not an viable option...they have to spend more time on story development, angst, character introspection. Hell, it could have been just as exciting to watch Rafe or Carrie have romantic fantasies about one another, rather than contrived attraction on set. I know they are doing with they Abby --Austin, but still it is a rush and the fantasies are not really romantic, they are intense from the get go. RUSH, RUSH, RUSH!! Days needs to slow down. Hot to cold in less than a second. The SL ideas are good, execution of the SL is the problem. Throwing Rafe out... what good is that... it would have been better for him to sleep on the couch for a while and let us see the emotions, actions and reactions going on between them. I think Sami and Rafe still love one another... even if it is not the ultimate relationship. Sami is in a bad place with her life so mess up and Rafe is just not able to figure out what's going on. There is enough drama for this couple alone... if TPTB would spend a little time.
yes,but this isnt YR and BB..let them have the whole incest hookups in the family crap..this is days...and i believe they have the most beautiful couples that after many yrs,their love still stayed strong..i dont want days to turn to daily sleazy sex!!!!no!!! ITA Pokerface! I just think that TPTB feel strapped and don't know how to use their supercouples in a positive way. Sami is not apart of a supercouple technically, she is all about bedmates and sex. She really doesn't even fit in the bigger picture here. Days has to bring new men in or old ones, like Lucas, or she's out of a SL. It would have been nice to have her with RAFE a while longer, there getting together story was good. Even is you don't like GG, they can change the actor, but their relationship had somethng to build on. I know most would say, Lucas is her soulmate... now TPTB have the potential to go done this road again. Rinse, Repeat, Recycle.!!!
If DAYS were to go on 20 more years, let me tell you how many more times. we'd have to see...
1) Bo's rocky marriage, that leads him to Billie, Carly or any other women from his past, before he finds himself with Hope for the 20th time. 2) Hope not trusting Bo, lose her mind, get delusional, meet and sleep with men, then back to Bo.... her main man. 3) Marlena the rock behind John and his mistakes., maybe she can sleep with Roman again... then back to John... 4) Sami chasing men who don't love her, and can't keep those who do 5) EJ going after is lover's sister, maybe he should of given Carrie a try 6) Jen chasing men after Jack disappoints her, she forgives him, he forgives her, happens every 5 years. 7) Nicole and Brady try again... how many times so far? They never seem to get far 8) ppl coming back from the dead.... maybe Alice will be reincarnated 9) Victor, Maggie & Kate & Stefano can partner swap.
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I guess it's more acceptable to cheat on your husband and sleep with the bastard that "ruined your life" then it is to kiss your sister-in-law! :huh:
But that "bastard" is still someone she once cared for and shares two children with. They have a past, good and bad. No one said anything about it being acceptable, but it isn't like she has been making googly eyes at him/spending time with him/connecting emotionally with him. She knows it was a mistake and is disgusted with herself. And she didn't "sleep" with him. She had meaningless sex for three minutes during extreme emotional grief. They didn't even finish for heaven's sake. Rafe and Carrie don't look disgusted. They look like they need a cigarette.
If Sami knows it was a mistake and meaningless why didn't she tell her husband? :shrug:
You're kidding right? No one ever tells on soaps. Where's the drama in that? Why doesn't EJ tell Nicole about Sami? Why didn't Marlena come out and tell John about Stefano's IOU? Why didn't Nicole tell EJ about the babyswitch? Because they knew their significant others would be PISSED. Sami knows she did something horrible and she doesn't want to lose Rafe. Have you ever done something really bad in a relationship and had to tell the other person about it? Well, I have. And it sucked. LOL i'm sorry but I can't even fathom how anyone on this board can defend Sami and actually buy into this 'grief sex' bullshit, i certainly don't. If it was someone like Nicole in Sami's situation where her child was missing, she wouldn't FUCK the first man infront of her. Sami's just a shameless whore, plain and simple.
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Feb 2 2012, 03:18 PM
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Well I love this article. Is it unfair for Sami to kick Rafe out for what he did? Yeah, because she cheated too. But is it something Sami would do? HELL YES!! I'm not going to be mad that she is doing something that is consistent with her personality. That is something we could not say much about the last regime.
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I find no real reason to get upset with all the bedmate switching. Soapier soaps always have this. Have you been to Genoa City lately??? So many partner swaps and tradesies over the years.... DAYS is very believable... very few characters are ever left with their integrity in tack, that's just a given. The problem for DAYS vs the Y&R, is that they have too many supercouple relationships and that makes it hard to swap spit between just anyone. CAFE is such a good example... they could have been written 10x better, that is TPTB's fault, but the idea that it would and could happen is okay. Happy couples floating around Salem is not an viable option...they have to spend more time on story development, angst, character introspection. Hell, it could have been just as exciting to watch Rafe or Carrie have romantic fantasies about one another, rather than contrived attraction on set. I know they are doing with they Abby --Austin, but still it is a rush and the fantasies are not really romantic, they are intense from the get go. RUSH, RUSH, RUSH!! Days needs to slow down. Hot to cold in less than a second. The SL ideas are good, execution of the SL is the problem. Throwing Rafe out... what good is that... it would have been better for him to sleep on the couch for a while and let us see the emotions, actions and reactions going on between them. I think Sami and Rafe still love one another... even if it is not the ultimate relationship. Sami is in a bad place with her life so mess up and Rafe is just not able to figure out what's going on. There is enough drama for this couple alone... if TPTB would spend a little time.
yes,but this isnt YR and BB..let them have the whole incest hookups in the family crap..this is days...and i believe they have the most beautiful couples that after many yrs,their love still stayed strong..i dont want days to turn to daily sleazy sex!!!!no!!!
ITA Pokerface! I just think that TPTB feel strapped and don't know how to use their supercouples in a positive way. Sami is not apart of a supercouple technically, she is all about bedmates and sex. She really doesn't even fit in the bigger picture here. Days has to bring new men in or old ones, like Lucas, or she's out of a SL. It would have been nice to have her with RAFE a while longer, there getting together story was good. Even is you don't like GG, they can change the actor, but their relationship had somethng to build on. I know most would say, Lucas is her soulmate... now TPTB have the potential to go done this road again. Rinse, Repeat, Recycle.!!! If DAYS were to go on 20 more years, let me tell you how many more times. we'd have to see... 1) Bo's rocky marriage, that leads him to Billie, Carly or any other women from his past, before he finds himself with Hope for the 20th time. 2) Hope not trusting Bo, lose her mind, get delusional, meet and sleep with men, then back to Bo.... her main man. 3) Marlena the rock behind John and his mistakes., maybe she can sleep with Roman again... then back to John... 4) Sami chasing men who don't love her, and can't keep those who do 5) EJ going after is lover's sister, maybe he should of given Carrie a try 6) Jen chasing men after Jack disappoints her, she forgives him, he forgives her, happens every 5 years. 7) Nicole and Brady try again... how many times so far? They never seem to get far 8) ppl coming back from the dead.... maybe Alice will be reincarnated 9) Victor, Maggie & Kate & Stefano can partner swap.
i like ur theories...just as long that marlena doesnt fuck roman...and john doesnt fuck hope..im all good with the rest! :chee:
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The past is the past; Rafe was her future, and a happy one I might add! Lucas, Carrie, and Austin were gone from the show, hardly talked about, not really missed by anyone, but bringing vets back at the expensive of SAFE which is a popular couple just isn’t right! And if you are going for a Lucas and Sami relationship it won’t be the same! I loved J/M a few years ago, now I want to throw up when I see them, it's just not the same! And for me it's the same for all the vets they bring back, J/J were my favorite always loved them, not today. You can't live your life in the past and be happy and either can a soap, you have to move forward to the future! I would be more interested in new characters and S/L no matter how bad until they work things out, then re-hashing over and over again the past! Let’s see Carrie has slept with every man Sami had! Gee how original is that!
Rafe and Sami were in love of all the right reasons, and with something as simple as a kiss it is tainted for ever! There special connection is gone, and this was something new for Sami and it was refreshing to see her enjoy her life! This is going to make SAFE relationship just like every relationship Sami has ever had! They can't have new and refreshing just old and boring re-hashed S/L!
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If Sami knows it was a mistake and meaningless why didn't she tell her husband? :shrug:
You're kidding right? No one ever tells on soaps. Where's the drama in that? Why doesn't EJ tell Nicole about Sami? Why didn't Marlena come out and tell John about Stefano's IOU? Why didn't Nicole tell EJ about the babyswitch? Because they knew their significant others would be PISSED. Sami knows she did something horrible and she doesn't want to lose Rafe. Have you ever done something really bad in a relationship and had to tell the other person about it? Well, I have. And it sucked.
LOL i'm sorry but I can't even fathom how anyone on this board can defend Sami and actually buy into this 'grief sex' bullshit, i certainly don't. If it was someone like Nicole in Sami's situation where her child was missing, she wouldn't FUCK the first man infront of her. Sami's just a shameless whore, plain and simple. There are a lot of things defend on this board that I cannot fathom so prepare yourself, it's going to happen... a lot. Just like I cannot fathom someone going back to the person who within the same calendar yr fucked said person's sister and reveled in their face about it. Maybe in a couple years but not this quickly. Everyone has their own opinion. There is nothing wrong with that.
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The past is the past; Rafe was her future, and a happy one I might add! Lucas, Carrie, and Austin were gone from the show, hardly talked about, not really missed by anyone, but bringing vets back at the expensive of SAFE which is a popular couple just isn’t right! And if you are going for a Lucas and Sami relationship it won’t be the same! I loved J/M a few years ago, now I want to throw up when I see them, it's just not the same! And for me it's the same for all the vets they bring back, J/J were my favorite always loved them, not today. You can't live your life in the past and be happy and either can a soap, you have to move forward to the future! I would be more interested in new characters and S/L no matter how bad until they work things out, then re-hashing over and over again the past! Let’s see Carrie has slept with every man Sami had! Gee how original is that!
Rafe and Sami were in love of all the right reasons, and with something as simple as a kiss it is tainted for ever! There special connection is gone, and this was something new for Sami and it was refreshing to see her enjoy her life! This is going to make SAFE relationship just like every relationship Sami has ever had! They can't have new and refreshing just old and boring re-hashed S/L!
This!!!
Sadly, I have not been enjoying the returned vets b/c the writing has been so bad. J/J were my all time favorite couple, and I can't stand Jennifer now. J/M is ehh. I don't care that much about them. I used to like Carrie and Austin, but I was never really invested in them. I love Safe, but that is now ruined. I can understand if they wanted to try something different with Cafe, but the writing was so bad that there's no way I will buy into it. They are ruining the character of Rafe for me by making him oogle over his SIL. I loved the hero character, but they just turned him into a cheater. If they wanted to make him less perfect, then they could have created SYDOLE with Rafe's mistake by using Nicole's toothbrush instead of Sami's. That would create some angst. Or dive into his past. Or do CAFE at a much slower pace. Instead they have the 100 degree office with soft porn music, stupid hugs at every turn, and Carrie turning to Rafe b/c she and her husband can't figure out date night! FAIL!!!
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If Sami knows it was a mistake and meaningless why didn't she tell her husband? :shrug:
You're kidding right? No one ever tells on soaps. Where's the drama in that? Why doesn't EJ tell Nicole about Sami? Why didn't Marlena come out and tell John about Stefano's IOU? Why didn't Nicole tell EJ about the babyswitch? Because they knew their significant others would be PISSED. Sami knows she did something horrible and she doesn't want to lose Rafe. Have you ever done something really bad in a relationship and had to tell the other person about it? Well, I have. And it sucked.
LOL i'm sorry but I can't even fathom how anyone on this board can defend Sami and actually buy into this 'grief sex' bullshit, i certainly don't. If it was someone like Nicole in Sami's situation where her child was missing, she wouldn't FUCK the first man infront of her. Sami's just a shameless whore, plain and simple. Well, I guess you'll have to fathom it as apparently someone, ie., me, is defending it.
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"swept up in the moment" - really Rafe? :huh1:
And I really don't care that Sami is a hypocrite, my dislike of both Rafe and Carrie trumps any of Sami's hypocrisy (but Carrie's got the hypocrisy down to a science too).
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I am not a Sami fan at all, and can't help feeling sorry for her. Yes, she makes bad choices and needs to learn by her mistakes. I feel bad for Sami, but somehow I just don't need the kleenex box and a glass of wine to ease my pain when I watch. I am sad on the outside and cheering on the inside or maybe it is, I'm sad on the inside and cheering on the outside. You all know what I mean. LOL!
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I think this version of Sami's "downfall" is MarDar trying to have it both ways. They are going to have Sami lose her husband, her son, her job, and whatnot so that (they think) all the fans who have despised Sami for being the pretend heroine will be happy with Sami getting "what she deserves." But, they are doing it in such a way that Sami is actualliy a victim of cruel circumstances that aren't really her fault (she didn't want to fuck EJ, she just wanted to forget the pain of her notdead son). That way, Sami can still be the pretend heroine she's always been.
And it's already working. People think Rafe kissing Carrie is worse than Sami screwing EJ? Check. People think Madison is screwing over Sami because she's having second thoughts and wants Sami to get out before she gets hurt? Check. They are making Will's hatred so OTT that some are sympathizing with Sami? Check.
This isn't Sami's downfall storyline. It's her redemption storyline. To bad I find the character irredeemable.
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Feb 2 2012, 07:26 PM
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^^ for once i agree with u!!!i dont mind seein sami suffer esp its not worth it,over that loser of rafe!!!!
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