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Monday, February 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 3 2012, 03:28 PM (9,517 Views)
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Monday, February 6th


Ej says to Abe
you knew exactly which questions the mod was going to ask
Lexi says are you crazy after the way you behaved after the things you just said, for you to have the gall to accuse my husband
Nic says your silence speaks volumes jennifer , wow this is shocking
honest abe carver a cheat, who would think
2 saints in training would be capable of such a thing
Ej says they just didnt think that anybody would suspect them
lexi says cuz its not true
Ej says my dear trusting sister, you stake your friendship on that?your
marriage

Austin is over at the mansion visiting kate in the living room
stefano is there
looking out the window
she wants him and carrie to come for dinner some night
stef is quiet looking out the window
kate asks him whats wrong

Hope and Bo at jennifers
Hope is deciding whether or not to open the envelope

They show the start of carrie and rafes kiss again
Sami comes in and
clears her throat
and gives them the look

Lexi says how dare you question me about trust, marriage or friendship
when you have 3 failed marriages and not a single friend
Abe tells her to stop its not worth getting upset over
she says no im not going to stop , im not going to stand here and let my brother and what ever she is to him
accuse you of cheating ,,,,really?
Ej says not only did he have all of the answers but he delivered them in a way that sounded rehearsed , dont you find that a little bit odd
she says abe did his homework, you planned to charm yourself
into a win and you failed
Nic says when i find out how you got those questions and i will, i will spread it like wild fire
you will lose the election, you both will lose everything

Sami comes storming thru the door,and throws her purse down , says what the hell are you doing?
Rafe says this is not what you think
sami says are you kidding me , i just caught my sister kissing my husband , its not what i think, what were you practising prince and princess again
rafe says we were excited
sami says i could see that part
carrie says we were excited because we helped a client save her marriage
sami says what were you kissing to celebrate?
Carrie says it was nothing it meant nothing
sami says how stupid do you think i am
i just caught you kissing my husband, you dont kiss someone like that for the hell of it
carrie says it was just a kiss
sami says what would have happened if i hadnt of walked in
i expect it from her she always wanted everything i had , but you ..i thought you loved me
he says i do
sami says then how could you betray me like this

kate checks stefanos blood sugar
stef asks Austin where his wife was
he says she is working
Stef says i remember carrie when she was a little girl , she would run through this house and laughing at everything and Anthony loved her as if she was his own , i miss them both
they ask Austin and carrie over for dinner
Austin says that can be a problem
he says i didnt want to get in to this
carrie and i have been having problems
kate asks what happened
he says things have been strained since the john black thing
thought things would get better
they have new jobs dont see each so much
kate says he should be with his wife now
tells him to go find carrie and find her
and surprise her
he doesnt want rafe to know , how bad things are between him and carrie
they are spending alot of time together working
kate says well not today see carrie and convince her to play hooky work on your marriage
he says you are right we both have to work this out
she says make things right with carrie we will get together and celebrate
he leaves

kate says , your blood sugar wasnt the problem before
what was


bo wonders what alice had on stef and if they will ever know
she thinks opening the envelope might be a mistake

Sami says i cant believe i was making an effort to get along with you
carrie says we were getting along
Sami says until you came back to salem and set your sights on my husband
after everything that happened with austin , this is your way of evening the score , i am happily married
i have 4 amazing children
i finally have a job and this is your opportunity to make your move
carrie says this is nuts
sami says oh really, you had your tongue in my husbands mouth and i am the one who is nuts?
Carrie says i dont want to ruin your life ,im happy you are happy and if i could take back what happened right now i would
sami starts to leave
rafe stops her
says think about it
carrie isnt the type of woman who cheats on her husband
sami says actually she is rafe
you didnt know that about her
carrie is a slut and you are a traitor
for defending her

Lexi says you will never prove abe and jen cheated cuz they didnt
Ej says im glad to have such a noble sister but your faith in certain people has blinded you to the truth
she says cant you just lose gracefully?
He says no i cant ,i will win this race she says no you wont
Ej says he certainly won there is no doubt about that but if you think im the only person who is capable of dirty tricks in this election you are a fool
She says our team
plays fair unlike yours
he says i appreciate you defending your husband i dont wish to hurt you and i dont wish to see you to be hurt
she says you are not going to
ej says then open your eyes and see what is in front of you , if you dont
you are going to get quite a shock when you wake up one day and the truth comes out and believe you me the truth always comes out in the end


Hope says imagine how the conversation went with stefano
when she got information on him
bo says she probably stuck it to him over a cup of coffee and a doughnut
she says i see him choking on the first bite
she isnt sure she wants to know whats in there, she is terrified

kate says all this time you had something on the Hortons and you could never use it cuz sweet white haired alice horton was blackmailing you ?
stef says correct
she asks what happened when you opened the box
he tells her they took their envelopes
he says its up to Hope if she opens it or not
she says and what about you
what did alice have on you
he says i dont know


rafe says im so sorry for what happened
it was one innocent kiss
sami says dont start with it being innocent
Carrie says because you are so innocent , you have never done anything you regretted?
your whole life
sami says this isnt about me
this is about you and my husband
carrie says what about you and my husband
i know what she is going to say , oh miss carrie she is so perfect but
im the one who has never cheated on the man i loved
rafe loves you and you need to trust that love
sami says how dare you tell me what to do or what i need, this isnt about me and my insecurities this is about you , and obviously you are having troubles in your marriage ,
im not im happily married and have 4 great kids things you dont have and you cant stand that
rafe says dont blame carrie , im sorry we got excited
she says oh you were so excited you found yourselves kissing each other
Austin at the door says what in the hell did i just hear , you and rafe were kissing


Lexi says you are pathetic, im so done with you
he says im sorry you are upset but im
even more sorry that your husband is a liar and a cheat
one day you will realize you put your faith in the wrong family member
EJ and Nicole leave

Lexi tells abe she is sorry the nerve of them accusing him of cheating
Jen says lexi it doesnt matter now it is done
Lexi says how can the 2 of you so easily forgive and forget you just stood there and let them say horrible and crazy thing about you
they were crazy werent they?
Abe says cant believe you would ask me that
she says this is the first time i heard you sound like a politician did you or did you not cheat to win the debate

kate says why havent you opened the envelope to see what it says
stef says i have my reasons
kate asks if he is worried
he says no just being cautious
she says what did Alice tell you
he says she said make sure you never let anyone see whats in the envelope myself included



hope doesnt know what to do
bo says there is nothing to stop stefano from going public with whats in the envelope
she takes it and goes to open it
but she stalls again says im
looking for a sign from gran if i am supposed to open it
she looks over on the mantle and sees her grandpas old book
say says i havent seen it in years
she goes and open the book, a piece of paper falls out and she says gran sent me a sign


Austin says you kissed my wife rafe
he runs and tries to grab rafe
carrie stops him and says it wasnt all his fault
he says you let him kiss you
she says no it just happened
Austin says you crossed the line
we took vows and now you are going to do this to me
i dont know
rafe says to sami you and i can go home so we can talk about this
sami says to carrie if you think ill forget this i wont,,,, ever
they leave
Austin laughs and says for once i agree with sami
anything else you want to say to me

abe says what do you think my answer will be yes honey i cheated i betrayed you, me our son everyone who believed in me so i could beat you brother in a local debate?
She says i know you are not like my brother, you are honest
the says then hen why question me
she says im sorry
he says dont be its ej s fault not yours
she says so you didnt
he says no, no, i didnt cheat
she laughs and hugs him

Ej and nicole are sitting at a table in the square
Nic says abe got those debate questions ahead of time
he says right but there is no way to prove it
she says and without proof we cant accuse him publicly for cheating
he says no not without the voters realizing we were trying to do it first
he just beat us to it
whats the bloody world coming to a man like abe carver stoops so low?
He laughs
Nic says
we now know that abe and jennfer are willing to cheat to win this election
now we can up our efforts even more
he says dont worry this debate has been quite the turning point ,this election is about to get very very interesting
Nic says and so is abes personal life
they laugh


carrie says it meant nothing believe me it meant nothing
Austin says i wasnt expecting this
she says you know i wouldnt hurt you
he says how big of a fool do you think i am
you and rafe have been a team since john was in trouble
i understand
you and rafe are close you have a bond
she says it was one time thing it will never happen again
he says are you sure you are making a promise you can keep

sami and rafe go home
she looks at her wedding picture
he says are you ever going to talk to me
she says what is there to talk about
he says how we can put this behind us
she says i dont think we can

Ej says how can a complete dullard like abe have a more interesting personal life , i listen to the man talk for 2 minutes and i just about fall asleep
why my sister is with him is one of the great mysteries of life
she says are you done ranting
he says no not yet, i find him so dull he could bore a rock into sand
im finished now
she says Abe made 2 mistakes
he got his hands dirty really dirty
and he lied to his loving trusting wife and she believed him
he says i like the way you are thinking
he kisses her

lexi says i hate that i doubted you and im so lucky to be your wife and theo couldnt have asked for a more loving father to look up to
i love you
she says she has to go and pick theo up, thanks jen for everything she is doing for abe , he wouldnt be in the position he is in now if it werent for her
jen says im sure thats not true
she leaves
jen says she is sorry
he says over the years we have been together i never lied to her once till just now

kate says my god and you have known this the whole time
hard to believe no one is going to believe it not at first
i wont breath a word
he says your silence is going to be a moot point
she says do you think bo and hope will open the envelope
he says i warned them against it but Hope is a detective she has to know all the facts no matter what they are
we are back to alices envelope
she says if you think that its something that will hurt you or the family you have to open it if not it will drive you crazy
ill open it if its important ill tell you if it isnt i will throw it in the garbage
stef says if anyone opens it it will me and me alone

hope says this is the sign
gran use to clip sayings from the newspaper and stick it in grandpas book
Bo reads it and it said if not you who?if not now when ?
She says i think she wants me to open the envelope
bo says yes she does thats a perfect sign right there

abe says i chose to lie to lexi i wasnt man enough to own up
i cheated i crossed a line i never thought i would and i will have to pay for it some day
jen says i forced you to cheat
if Ej had won this debate he probably would have won the election
i dont like lying to my friend but its
worth it to keep Ej out of the mayors office
he says im no better than Ej is
she says yes you are
he says i lied to my wife
i looked lexi right in the eyes
and i lied to her if she ever finds out she will never forgive me never

Ej says how about this one
proof of lies major drama starring trusting wife and corrupt husband
nic says thats good
ej says i smell popcorn

she says i hear doors slamming and things breaking
he says those who muck with us get mucked
going to be a sweet victory
my opponent loses the election and also his wife
nic says
the end of lexis marriage could be the one thing that brings her back to the family fold
and you and stefano have been wanting that since i can remember
just give me the word and i will make it happen
he kisses her

kate says she pities Hope if she opens the envelope and finds what you said is in it
it could change a lot of peoples lives
stef says i wonder if the same thing
holds for alices envelope could it be something that could change my life
she says whatever you find is going to be fine you have always been the master of your own destiny
he says till now
who knows whats in the envelope
maybe something thats out of my control

Hope says other secrets lead to good things
Maggie finding out Daniel was her son
and the iou got john out of jail
Bo says
this isnt mrs Hs secret its what stefano had on her, but they think stefano will tell everyone whats in their envelope
this is grans way of beating him to the punch
she opens the envelope at last
and says oh my god no
she drops it and slowly sits down

Carrie says i love you i would never do anything with rafe that would threaten our marriage
he says i want to believe you but
i need the answer to 1 question
do you have feelings for rafe

rafe says you don think we can
of course we can we renewed our vows , we can work things out
she says its too late for that
he says what do you mean i make one little mistake and you write me off i refuse to accept that
she says this is not about you only
i have feelings here too
he says im sorry
we dealt with worse and we will deal with this
she says you deal with it cuz i cant
she takes the picture and throws it across the room it hits door
and it breaks
i want you out , i want you out
rafes face expression ....nothing different,,,same old face
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Skye
Feb 3 2012, 03:28 PM
rafes face expression ....nothing different,,,same old face
LOL He can't get more inert.
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I knew it! EJ is hoping Abe screwing up will bring Lexie back into the Dimera fold. I knew that is what he wanted. Not sure the bitch is worth it though. In the end Lexie will find out and go running to daddy and her brother. its what she always does.

I thought Stefano was opening the envelope today??!! :frustration: I guess its Tuesday.
Edited by Twilightsucks, Feb 3 2012, 03:50 PM.
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I appreciate they are trying to give Abe/Lexie some conflict but I really donīt like this new saint Lexie. And looks like with the new EP we have back the "I know what you want to say" interruptions used to drag stories. This Abe/Lexie dialog is a classic JER.
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Strange epi for me.. almost falling flat from Friday's show.. maybe it was a comedy-drama combo.. funny shit for a drama.

Stefano so pensive about Alice's secret... way better than Hope's hokey indecision to open the damn letter and looking for a sign. Hope should consult a psychic...she is so over dramatic. I like Kate supporting Stefano......nice to see them so close.

Honest Abe.....okay he lies to Lexie about the debate questions and feels bad. He has never lied to Lexie in all their years together... get off it!
Lexie is the last person he should care about... she is not Saint Lexie, she has heaps of deceit, lies and indiscretion in her years with Abe. She can get over it Abe... so you didn't play fair, when has EJ. Fight fire with fire... your wife should understand and even maybe support you.
Jennifer trying to tell Abe it is all her fault. Jennifer comments about not liking to lie and cheat to her friend. She better revisit the past year of her life, she`s been lying to herself for so long. Abe and Jen come off as dumb for not realizing their `playing dirty `has consqeunces. Not liking it at all.

Nicole and EJ revelling in coming up with ideas to pin Abe for his cheating.. was fun to watch. EJ better watch what he wishes for, because he has so much crap that is going to come out... you`d think he`d be smart enough to walk away. I think he will expose Abe and win the election. Should get better....TPTB are slow building this one.

Rafe and Austin should be BFFs, 2 dumbies in love with women they can't control. Austin looks really emotional or just bad, I can't decide. Rafe is expressionless, I think he is good either way. Hahaha!!! Sami OTT.... she is throwing him out over a kiss.... another one that needs to take a reality check. I really think she is throwing him out, because she is worried he will leave, when the Ejami sex comes out. Almost like cutting her losses, before they bite her in the ass. Not a huge Rafe fan, he is clearly blind sided by her behavior. I loved it when he says.... `what do you mean, i make one little mistake and you write me off i refuse to accept that`. I had to laugh. I actually want TPTB to explore Safe angst... that is a first for me. Somehow SAFE deserve each other.
Edited by Dreamer, Feb 3 2012, 04:25 PM.
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Feb 3 2012, 03:45 PM
I knew it! EJ is hoping Abe screwing up will bring Lexie back into the Dimera fold. I knew that is what he wanted. Not sure the bitch is worth it though. In the end Lexie will find out and go running to daddy and her brother. its what she always does.

I thought Stefano was opening the envelope today??!! :frustration: I guess its Tuesday.
i don't think Stefano's opening his envelope quite yet. There's nothing in the spoilers about what Alice had on him.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

I thought there was a spoiler somewhere that said Stefano is 'horrified' by what he finds in his envelope. Did I just make that up?

ETA: Here it is:

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National Enquirer Spoilers
-Austin turns to Abigail after learning about Rafe and Carrie.
-Will calls Sami a hypocrite for forcing Rafe out.
-Can Carrie fix things with Austin?
-Madison's mystery caller is revealed.
-John and Hope must fix the secret from Alice's envelope.
-Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals.
Edited by SocRMum1, Feb 3 2012, 04:41 PM.
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Ej and Nicole scheming together. The way it should be.

Cannot wait for Sami to fall off her high horse.

Thanks for the recap! :)
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I love how everything that Nic and EJ say about Abe and Lexie is even more accurate for their own situation. And the absolutely ridiculous premise that Nic/EJ are outraged by the other side's duplicity is a little heavy handed.
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If someone acted like they were soo above you and better than you. They would NEVER do the things Ejole have done. pffffffffft. I would mock them for being hypocrites too. and they are still acting like what they did was right. no it isnt.
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Normally, I'd be annoyed with Lexie getting on her high horse and being disappointed in the idea of Abe cheating, but in this case, just let me say - Yes! I hope she takes after he her dad and is as hypocritical, judgmental and unforgiving as only he can be. Then I hope she breaks up with Abe for good.
Edited by six, Feb 3 2012, 05:00 PM.
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Feb 3 2012, 04:31 PM
I thought there was a spoiler somewhere that said Stefano is 'horrified' by what he finds in his envelope. Did I just make that up?

ETA: Here it is:

Quote:
 
National Enquirer Spoilers
-Austin turns to Abigail after learning about Rafe and Carrie.
-Will calls Sami a hypocrite for forcing Rafe out.
-Can Carrie fix things with Austin?
-Madison's mystery caller is revealed.
-John and Hope must fix the secret from Alice's envelope.
-Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals.
I'm so confused. I thought the big secret was that John/Hope (aka Gina) are married. Are there two different secrets? Is that why there were two envelopes in the safe deposit box?
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Feb 3 2012, 04:59 PM
SocRMum1
Feb 3 2012, 04:31 PM
I thought there was a spoiler somewhere that said Stefano is 'horrified' by what he finds in his envelope. Did I just make that up?

ETA: Here it is:

Quote:
 
National Enquirer Spoilers
-Austin turns to Abigail after learning about Rafe and Carrie.
-Will calls Sami a hypocrite for forcing Rafe out.
-Can Carrie fix things with Austin?
-Madison's mystery caller is revealed.
-John and Hope must fix the secret from Alice's envelope.
-Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals.
I'm so confused. I thought the big secret was that John/Hope (aka Gina) are married. Are there two different secrets? Is that why there were two envelopes in the safe deposit box?
Yes. Stefano had something on the Hortons. Alice had something on Stefano. Instead of destroying each other, for some idiotic reason, they decided to seal the secrets into envelopes then lock them away.
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six
Feb 3 2012, 05:04 PM
badaddiction
Feb 3 2012, 04:59 PM
SocRMum1
Feb 3 2012, 04:31 PM
I thought there was a spoiler somewhere that said Stefano is 'horrified' by what he finds in his envelope. Did I just make that up?

ETA: Here it is:

Quote:
 
National Enquirer Spoilers
-Austin turns to Abigail after learning about Rafe and Carrie.
-Will calls Sami a hypocrite for forcing Rafe out.
-Can Carrie fix things with Austin?
-Madison's mystery caller is revealed.
-John and Hope must fix the secret from Alice's envelope.
-Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals.
I'm so confused. I thought the big secret was that John/Hope (aka Gina) are married. Are there two different secrets? Is that why there were two envelopes in the safe deposit box?
Yes. Stefano had something on the Hortons. Alice had something on Stefano. Instead of destroying each other, for some idiotic reason, they decided to seal the secrets into envelopes then lock them away.
That whole scenario is so weird. They are doing a shoddy job of selling this story to me.

Irony doesn't even begin to describe EJole/Abe&Lexi interlude. I just hope they (EJole) make it through in the end. They belong together...they are perfectly suited to one another...kindred...soulmates call them what you will and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.

Ej needs to be honest with Nicole very soon before it's too late to save his marriage.
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Thanks!

OK, so if Alice knew of Stefano's secret, that has to mean that Chad is not the baby because no one knew about him at that time. So the mystery has to be about EJ's parentage...
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Feb 3 2012, 04:59 PM
Normally, I'd be annoyed with Lexie getting on her high horse and being disappointed in the idea of Abe cheating, but in this case, just let me say - Yes! I hope she takes after he her dad and is as hypocritical, judgmental and unforgiving as only he can be. Then I hope she breaks up with Abe for good.
After how many times he's forgiven her for cheating? Which IMO is a lot worse than what Abe has done, Lexie would be the ultimate hypocrite.
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^ My face watching DAYS

This was another good episode IMO...I especially felt bad for poor Austin...he was really hurt and you could tell...PM was good in those scenes.

LOVED LOVED LOVED Sami/Carrie, you just KNOW they are gonna have it out soon...I love that Carrie pot-shotted back at Sami, even in the face of being totally caught in the wrong. I also especially loved how the writers dialogued those scenes, with Sami telling Rafe that Carrie has always wanted what she had and that she is jealous of her...that is CLASSIC Sami...blaming Carrie and thinking Carrie is stealing things from her that NEVER belonged to her in the first place.

Sami is being written MUCH more to true form in the last bit here and I am LOVING that change.

The BOPE scenes were kinda filler...and Kristian Alfonso was ridiculously OTT in those scenes I mean..come on Kristian..you can do better than that FFS!

Abe lying straight to Lexie's face was pretty bad IMO...he just does not lie like this and I am kinda shocked in his behaviour....but in the end he has Lexie's multiple indiscretions to throw in her face when the truth comes out, so I mean if she leaves him over a small lie like this than that is just ridiculous. I do hope this does result in Lexie leaving Abe and running back to the DiMera fold.

Jennifer was filler...but I did love her little looks back and forth with EJ/Nicole when they were accusing them of cheating and that they would expose them.

Good overall show....minus Galen Gering who was just my GOD awful...this man is just a plain old cave man "duh face" lurch...he has NO emotion!
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Feb 3 2012, 05:22 PM
six
Feb 3 2012, 04:59 PM
Normally, I'd be annoyed with Lexie getting on her high horse and being disappointed in the idea of Abe cheating, but in this case, just let me say - Yes! I hope she takes after he her dad and is as hypocritical, judgmental and unforgiving as only he can be. Then I hope she breaks up with Abe for good.
After how many times he's forgiven her for cheating? Which IMO is a lot worse than what Abe has done, Lexie would be the ultimate hypocrite.
A hypocrite, yes, but freedom from that boring albatross - aka Abe - would be well worth the hypocrisy.
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Thanks Skye for the day ahead as always like how the Carvers finally have drama other than a sexual indiscretion. Sami and Abe are going to live to regret how they behaved can't wait to see the fall out in the future.
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^ My face watching DAYS

Is this the first time Abe has been set up for a big fall? I think it is.
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