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Monday, February 6th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 3 2012, 03:28 PM (9,523 Views)
Tom


lysie
Feb 5 2012, 02:19 PM
Yeah...I don't agree. People make mistakes. It's part of life. The mistake isn't what destroys people, it's what the person does afterwards.
Fine. He doesn't have to die, but I do hope he loses everything before he EARNS my respect again, as a viewer, who believed in honest Abe all these years. I was too harsh. But I want comeuppance, and a story that proves I can trust him again.

Edit: He'd probably have to save EJ's life or do something like that to make up for this. It'd be interesting if it mended EJabe's relationship.
Edited by Tom, Feb 5 2012, 02:48 PM.
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Dany_E
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I think both Abe and Jennifer are looking at it from the old "if you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler before he came to power?" idea. It's a slippery slope but Abe has a long way to fall before he even comes close to being worse than EJ. I think Abe feels worse about lying to Lexie than he does about beating EJ at his own game and for some reason, I think he should. But I don't know anyone, realistically, who is as perfect as Abe has previously been depicted. I'd rather he do something wrong now and then - it makes him more interesting and human.

Honestly, in what other town would anyone have to cheat in order to beat a gangster in a mayoral election? How dumb are the people in this town?
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Tom


Dany_E
Feb 5 2012, 09:03 PM
I think both Abe and Jennifer are looking at it from the old "if you could go back in time, would you kill Hitler before he came to power?" idea. It's a slippery slope but Abe has a long way to fall before he even comes close to being worse than EJ. I think Abe feels worse about lying to Lexie than he does about beating EJ at his own game and for some reason, I think he should. But I don't know anyone, realistically, who is as perfect as Abe has previously been depicted. I'd rather he do something wrong now and then - it makes him more interesting and human.

Honestly, in what other town would anyone have to cheat in order to beat a gangster in a mayoral election? How dumb are the people in this town?
You make a good point. The voters in Salem are pretty dumb.
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lysie
Feb 3 2012, 06:06 PM
gailwinters
Feb 3 2012, 04:53 PM
I love how everything that Nic and EJ say about Abe and Lexie is even more accurate for their own situation. And the absolutely ridiculous premise that Nic/EJ are outraged by the other side's duplicity is a little heavy handed.
OH MY GOSH. Thank you. Like...they're pissed because Abe was more successful.


For me it played a couple of ways. First they are shocked that St. Jennifer and Honest Abe would stoop to their level and secondly, yes, they don't like being bested at being cheaters.

It made me laugh at EJ and Nicole but I really hope Jennifer and Abe get the short end of the stick for doing it. To me, if an honest person has to cheat to win, even against a criminal, the victory is tainted and not worth it. But I think we can all see this is just a vehicle to cause some excitement in the oh so boring Carver duo.

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jenesais


Lexie and Abe have never been anything but boring.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

gailwinters
Feb 4 2012, 09:57 PM
mer4santo
Feb 4 2012, 09:18 PM
SocRMum1
Feb 3 2012, 05:35 PM
rpmaluki
Feb 3 2012, 05:17 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep -Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals. and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.

Ej needs to be honest with Nicole very soon before it's too late to save his marriage.
And if they get all that, it's a sure bet they'll be backburnered even more than they are now. Or sent to Switzerland...off canvas.
I'd be happy to see them go first class on tonite's red-eye flight.
I'll hire the limo to take them to the airport.
Really? Wow...and here I thought you were an Ej fan...
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LuvingLumi
Feb 6 2012, 10:14 AM
gailwinters
Feb 4 2012, 09:57 PM
mer4santo
Feb 4 2012, 09:18 PM
SocRMum1
Feb 3 2012, 05:35 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep -Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals. and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.
I'd be happy to see them go first class on tonite's red-eye flight.
I'll hire the limo to take them to the airport.
Really? Wow...and here I thought you were an Ej fan...
I am. But if he's going to be stuck in a "happily ever after" with Nic, I don't want to see it.

Fortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. ;)
Edited by gailwinters, Feb 6 2012, 11:19 AM.
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LuvingLumi
Feb 6 2012, 10:14 AM
gailwinters
Feb 4 2012, 09:57 PM
mer4santo
Feb 4 2012, 09:18 PM
SocRMum1
Feb 3 2012, 05:35 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep -Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals. and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.
I'd be happy to see them go first class on tonite's red-eye flight.
I'll hire the limo to take them to the airport.
Really? Wow...and here I thought you were an Ej fan...
Consider it an act of mercy.
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gailwinters
Feb 6 2012, 10:26 AM
LuvingLumi
Feb 6 2012, 10:14 AM
gailwinters
Feb 4 2012, 09:57 PM
mer4santo
Feb 4 2012, 09:18 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep -Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals. and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.
I'll hire the limo to take them to the airport.
Really? Wow...and here I thought you were an Ej fan...
I am. But if he's going to be stuck in a "happily ever after" with Nic, I don't want to see it.

Fortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. ;)
No he's already fucked it up... so when Nicole finds out she's gonna kick him to the curb and he's gonna be groveling his way back into life.... sounds like a lot of angst to me. :popcorn:
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lysie


I'm watching live today, and words can't express how excited I am about that. But punctuation can. ;)
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lysie


Seriously. Ejole's reaction to Abe/Jennifer cheating is horribly stupid.
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lysie


If Kate didn't have that ridiculous blue hair, she'd look a lot like she did in the early 2000s. Austin looks ridiculous chillin' at the DiMera mansion, and Kate is a moron for thinking it's a good idea to invite Carrie to the mansion to have dinner with Stefano. She and Sami have the self awareness of seaweed.
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lysie


I know how Cafe feel. I always make out with the people in my office right after we get paid. LMAO. Everything about that scene was incredibly bad. From the kiss to Sami's face.
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lysie


Well...at least Carrie's response to Sami's dumbass line made it somewhat obvious that Sami is just making crap up, but really...all three of these actors are sucking today. That's what happens when your characters actions and dialogue don't make sense.
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lysie


Crap. I just tried to FF.
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SocRMum1
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

jtsahottie
Feb 6 2012, 12:29 PM
gailwinters
Feb 6 2012, 10:26 AM
LuvingLumi
Feb 6 2012, 10:14 AM
gailwinters
Feb 4 2012, 09:57 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep -Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals. and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.
Really? Wow...and here I thought you were an Ej fan...
I am. But if he's going to be stuck in a "happily ever after" with Nic, I don't want to see it.

Fortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. ;)
No he's already fucked it up... so when Nicole finds out she's gonna kick him to the curb and he's gonna be groveling his way back into life.... sounds like a lot of angst to me. :popcorn:
Sounds like a lot of same shit different day to me. EJ is always kicked to the curb and left groveling with his lady du jour when whatever the latest truth is comes out. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
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lysie


Good grief. Stefano's nurse Kate makes me absolutely nauseous. Interesting Tony/Carrie talk, but idk why Stefano would "remember" that. All of the actors are just off today. And the dialogue is stupid. Austin just told "us" meaning Stefano and Kate about Carrie now. Why on earth would he tell Stefano?
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Sami really say Carries always wanted everything she ever has,that's rich given her history with trying to take Austin from Carrie.
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lysie


Lauren's hair does look better when it's straight. Better. Not good.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

SocRMum1
Feb 6 2012, 01:07 PM
jtsahottie
Feb 6 2012, 12:29 PM
gailwinters
Feb 6 2012, 10:26 AM
LuvingLumi
Feb 6 2012, 10:14 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep -Stefano is horrified by what his envelope reveals. and for once they deserve some happiness without any "sword" hanging over them or any third party to ruin things for them.
I am. But if he's going to be stuck in a "happily ever after" with Nic, I don't want to see it.

Fortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. ;)
No he's already fucked it up... so when Nicole finds out she's gonna kick him to the curb and he's gonna be groveling his way back into life.... sounds like a lot of angst to me. :popcorn:
Sounds like a lot of same shit different day to me. EJ is always kicked to the curb and left groveling with his lady du jour when whatever the latest truth is comes out. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
That is why I pretty much expect it with his stories now. He's showing to love Nicole and they have built this up to crush Nicole, so when she finds out he'll obviously do some groveling and want her to understand...that....'it meant nothing to me, I love YOU!'....then he'll cry a bit, then he'll tell her that they were on a break, 'remember..the divorce papers, I didn't want to sign, you sort of held them over my head, I signed and then the Johnny thing happened and I well, it meant nothing to me, I swear....

It's all been a plot point to get Will's story going....in other words...Sami needed to fuck Ej so Will can hate her enough to want to leave town, so he went to Ej and then the Will shooting was exposed....if she would have fucked any other man, the consequences wouldn't have been what they wanted them to be. That is why they promoted this as never being about their feelings for one another but about the consequence of the actions that night Johnny went missing.
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