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Tuesday, February 7th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 6 2012, 02:42 PM (13,366 Views)
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

lovinsafe
Feb 7 2012, 05:18 PM
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Feb 7 2012, 03:56 PM
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Feb 7 2012, 03:49 PM

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Name one of Sami men and Carrie has been there and done that! OH by the way I’m not your sweetie!
Brandon. EJ. Franco.
Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
It's hard to feel too sympathetic in that example when Sami was the one that was manipulating things to keep Carrie and Austin apart. She knew they loved each other so she blackmailed Lexie into telling Carrie that if she had children with Austin they would have birth defects. I wouldn't exactly slap a gold star on Sami's forehead for that one.

What Carrie did was shitty - particularly to Lucas - but Sami basically had that one coming.
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Feb 7 2012, 01:52 PM
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Feb 7 2012, 01:49 PM
SO.MUCH.THIS.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: there are no STAKES.

Who cares if John and Hope are married if it doesn't actually threaten their current marriages, their lifestyles, exposing their secrets, etc.

Good lord, it's not that hard Days, it's really not that hard.
Exactly. And the story they're revisiting was one of the most hated ones they've done, they had to do major damage control. Even more important, it was already done! They can't possibly do it without rewriting history, which they said they were done with, didn't they?

I still think they should have had it be revealed that Marlena was married to Stefano. They could say it happened when she was gone for those four years, they could finally do some exciting digging into that time of their lives... Bo and Hope could still be in on the story as friends who stand by John and Marlena, and help them find out. Higher stakes, more excitement, much much more potential.
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^ My face watching DAYS

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Feb 7 2012, 11:32 AM
lysie
Feb 7 2012, 11:24 AM
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Feb 7 2012, 11:20 AM
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Feb 7 2012, 10:39 AM
OMG with a mother like Marlena Sami is better off not having her in her life the past few years, a mothers love is supposed to be unconditional not stabbing your daughter in the back, telling Carrie who is not related to Marlena that kissing Sami husband is alright. Carrie is messing with Sami head and now Marlena is! This show has turned into a pathetic cesspool of S/L, none of which are believable, no connection to anything, just words with no meanings! They have the guts to call this entertainment! :eyeroll:
Exactly. Carrie's the daughter of Marlena's ex husband and Anna and that's it. I don't care if Marlena helped raise her, she isn't a blood relative. No matter what Sami has done, Marlena is her mother, and a mother gives uncondtional love to her CHILDREN, not her ex hubby's kid. I don't get the writer's point with this whole thing. Are they trying to fool the audience into thinking that Carrie is still the "good child" after she cheated with her sister's husband? Are they trying to set up a total Marlena/Sami break or a total Sami/Carrie break? The writers totally missed the boat on this one, IMO. Mardar you suck!
Seriously? Wtf? Being a blood relative has nothing to do with love or parenting.
No, it doesn't, and I'm not saying that Marlena shouldn't love Carrie and vice versa and guide her if she needs it, but for her to continously choose Carrie, who isn't her daughter, over Sami who is, to me is ridiculous. For her to tell Carrie that she did nothing wrong in kissing her daughter's husband is ridiculous. Are we supposed to think that Marlena doesn't love or care what happens to Sami's marriage with Rafe because of this? I know she knows Sami had sex with EJ, but Carrie doesn't know that, and what she's hearing is that Marlena is condoning what she did by saying she did nothing wrong. If Sami had done it, would she have told Sami that? I sincerely doubt it.
While I agree Marlena should not have said this to Carrie....everything else I don't agree with. Carrie is JUST AS MUCH of a daughter to Marlena as Sami is...and not only that but Carrie has ALWAYS shown Marlena respect, she has treated her like her own mother...while Sami has literally spit in Marlena's face continuously for years...so GIVE ME A BIG FUCKING BREAK!

Sami should be lucky Marlena still is even TRYING to put up with her bullshit...she is the absolute WORST daughter in the world!
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Feb 7 2012, 02:26 PM
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Feb 7 2012, 02:22 PM
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Feb 7 2012, 02:12 PM

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I think they ruined Brady when he went on his bender thus creating Bad/Grey Brady, concurrently whitewashing bad Philip for Melanie. Brady could always use an edge but I feel like this shift in personality has really been to his detriment. He was interesting with Nicole during the miscarriage because he had a vulnerability with her and wanted her to do the right thing. Now he is just a sleazy, FallinInLove Asshat.
I much prefer edgy Brady. I will never mourn the death of showtunes singing Brady. Or Ethan-lite Brady.
I agree, the super white hat was bad too and I really wanted to like him but I feel like he is too emotionless to identify with. He isn't a business bad ass, he barely interacts with any characters and he's been relegated to basically to bang whatever useless new character they bring in.

I thought he finally hit a good place during the baby swap and quickly turned him away.
I feel that way about every character in the baby switch. None of them moved forward really.

ITA Brady was Nicoles only friend and ally. I thought him helping her after her miscarriage and keeping her secrets was a good foundation for them. Even the recent revisits of Brady/Nicole have been pointless. I sort of feel he should be FBI or something edgy yet heroic and needs a more traditional kind of damsel in distress romance. And it hasn't helped Madison as a character either. Shes supposed to be some edgy businesswoman and it doesn't work with him.
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Feb 7 2012, 05:18 PM
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Name one of Sami men and Carrie has been there and done that! OH by the way I’m not your sweetie!
Brandon. EJ. Franco.
Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
The look on Carrie's face was because what Sami said wasn't true of Carrie, but was true of Sami herself. Just because Sami said it, doesn't mean it's fact. We KNOW it's not a fact, because we've watched it play out for the last 19 years. I don't need to read the history on Carrie. I watched it. And yes, she did "go after" Austin while he was with Sami, and yes, she's "going after" Rafe while he's with Sami. But that's not the whole story. For starters, Sami wouldn't have been with Austin in the first place if she hadn't manipulated the situation, so it's not like Carrie broke up a happy relationship with the two of them. Until 2006, Carrie had never interfered with Sami's relationships, and even in 2006 she only did it after Sami started it. This is the only incident where Carrie has done anything to mess up a relationship that Sami was in legitimately.
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No matter what you think, I DO love you.

I tried to watch today but since I missed the J&M parts in the beginning it was hard to try to focus on the crap that they were feeding me so I didn't even bother.

So question, when Bope were looking at the marriage certificate...is the marriage between John and Hope, or John and Gina? I still don't understand how a marriage certificate between John/Gina has anything to do with Hope even if it was Hope as Gina at the time who supposedly wed John. Blah, so much wtfuckery.
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Feb 7 2012, 05:40 PM
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Brandon. EJ. Franco.
Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
The look on Carrie's face was because what Sami said wasn't true of Carrie, but was true of Sami herself. Just because Sami said it, doesn't mean it's fact. We KNOW it's not a fact, because we've watched it play out for the last 19 years. I don't need to read the history on Carrie. I watched it. And yes, she did "go after" Austin while he was with Sami, and yes, she's "going after" Rafe while he's with Sami. But that's not the whole story. For starters, Sami wouldn't have been with Austin in the first place if she hadn't manipulated the situation, so it's not like Carrie broke up a happy relationship with the two of them. Until 2006, Carrie had never interfered with Sami's relationships, and even in 2006 she only did it after Sami started it. This is the only incident where Carrie has done anything to mess up a relationship that Sami was in legitimately.
EXACTLY!! :applause:
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michelle
Feb 6 2012, 10:15 PM
It was just a little quick grief nookie.

Hardly cheating at all.
Did they even finish??? that fucking sucks... Sami became a whore and she didn't even get to "go". :sheep:
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jtsahottie
Feb 7 2012, 05:46 PM
michelle
Feb 6 2012, 10:15 PM
It was just a little quick grief nookie.

Hardly cheating at all.
Did they even finish??? that fucking sucks... Sami became a whore and she didn't even get to "go". :sheep:
Well there was a lot of "grunting" so who knows if she actually "went" or not ;)

Just a FYI to women in general: Grunting during sex is a turn off! :D
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Feb 7 2012, 05:21 PM
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Feb 7 2012, 03:56 PM
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Brandon. EJ. Franco.
Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
It's hard to feel too sympathetic in that example when Sami was the one that was manipulating things to keep Carrie and Austin apart. She knew they loved each other so she blackmailed Lexie into telling Carrie that if she had children with Austin they would have birth defects. I wouldn't exactly slap a gold star on Sami's forehead for that one.

What Carrie did was shitty - particularly to Lucas - but Sami basically had that one coming.
And Carrie only hooked up with Lucas for his sperm. Lucas and SAmi at the time had too much pride to admit they loved each other and latched on to Carrie and Austin so they wouldn't be alone.
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Name one of Sami men and Carrie has been there and done that! OH by the way I’m not your sweetie!
Brandon. EJ. Franco.
Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
I don't think Sami said this wasn't the first time Carrie went after her man. She said this wasn't the first time Carrie cheated on her husband, which it wasn't, but Sami wasn't the wronged party when Carrie on Austin the first time. It had nothing to do with her at all. I only wish Carrie had been allowed to call Sami out on being delusional, because Sami's version of history with her being the wronged party, constantly losing out to her jealous sister is not how it happened at all.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 7 2012, 05:47 PM
jtsahottie
Feb 7 2012, 05:46 PM
michelle
Feb 6 2012, 10:15 PM
It was just a little quick grief nookie.

Hardly cheating at all.
Did they even finish??? that fucking sucks... Sami became a whore and she didn't even get to "go". :sheep:
Well there was a lot of "grunting" so who knows if she actually "went" or not ;)

Just a FYI to women in general: Grunting during sex is a turn off! :D
What about having a snack... I'm a multitasker. :D
I kid, I kid....
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Feb 7 2012, 05:52 PM
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Brandon. EJ. Franco.
Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
I don't think Sami said this wasn't the first time Carrie went after her man. She said this wasn't the first time Carrie cheated on her husband, which it wasn't, but Sami wasn't the wronged party when Carrie on Austin the first time. It had nothing to do with her at all. I only wish Carrie had been allowed to call Sami out on being delusional, because Sami's version of history with her being the wronged party, constantly losing out to her jealous sister is not how it happened at all.
And obviously they need to have someone give the other side...
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Feb 7 2012, 05:56 PM
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Sami even told Rafe yesterday that this wasn't the first time Carrie did this, and the look on Carries face said it all. I believe that Carrie left her wedding bed with Lucas to have sex with Austin, if you want to find out more read the history on Carrie!
I don't think Sami said this wasn't the first time Carrie went after her man. She said this wasn't the first time Carrie cheated on her husband, which it wasn't, but Sami wasn't the wronged party when Carrie on Austin the first time. It had nothing to do with her at all. I only wish Carrie had been allowed to call Sami out on being delusional, because Sami's version of history with her being the wronged party, constantly losing out to her jealous sister is not how it happened at all.
And obviously they need to have someone give the other side...
Unless Sami's not the only one changing history. I certainly hope M&T aren't trying to tell us this is how it actually happened now. Carrie had better get her chance to set things straight once the truth about Sami comes out.
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I don't think Sami said this wasn't the first time Carrie went after her man. She said this wasn't the first time Carrie cheated on her husband, which it wasn't, but Sami wasn't the wronged party when Carrie on Austin the first time. It had nothing to do with her at all. I only wish Carrie had been allowed to call Sami out on being delusional, because Sami's version of history with her being the wronged party, constantly losing out to her jealous sister is not how it happened at all.
And obviously they need to have someone give the other side...
Unless Sami's not the only one changing history. I certainly hope M&T aren't trying to tell us this is how it actually happened now. Carrie had better get her chance to set things straight once the truth about Sami comes out.
No. I don't think it's something they're changing, but I think they don't realize that these characters have been off canvas long enough that they really should have reintroduced them better. Ever since the reset, they've had this problem. They put these characters back in Salem, and quite frankly, they fit back in a little too perfectly. But they didn't make them rootable. If I weren't already a fan of these characters, nothing the writers have done so far would have made me a fan. But where they really run into issues is when these characters have conflict with characters who have been around for the last few years. Sami said Carrie is evil, so it must be true. Yeah....no. They put these characters back into Salem, and they didn't bother to reestablish them as characters with actual history and emotions based on things that happened before 2011.
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I liked how Sami kicking Rafe out was more over her guilt than what he did with Carrie. Inner conflict!

My problem with the reactions to Rafe and Carrie's kiss is that I didn't find it that serious, or at least it shouldn't be that serious. Not yet at least. First of all, that kiss was way too passionate for the little bit of time that's been focused on Rafe and Carrie's growing feelings for each other. There's obviously something there between the two, but before the prince and princess dance, they never really seemed to have that strong connection. And then the very next day, they get some good news and kiss passionately like a supercouple held apart for months and months, only to outdo the villain in their story and be reunited, finally. So Carrie's hesitation to deny her feelings for Rafe when Austin asked her just came off wrong for me.

Muldoon could've done a lot better in those drunks scenes. That was pretty bad acting right there. Has he ever been drunk before?

I didn't mind Bo's line about Stefano turning Hope into Gina to come between John and Marlena. In general, that was the case. Maybe not in that case, which was Stefano wanting art stolen by Hope as Gina, who then pursued John after years apart. But Stefano wouldn't have these problems with John and this history with John if it wasn't for Marlena and his obsession with her. And it wasn't like Bo and Hope specifically said turning Hope into Gina was what Stefano used to come between John and Marlena. Hope said something about Stefano doing many bad things years ago, and that's when Bo said and it was all to break up John and Marlena. There's truth there.

I will admit that after how long this secret was dragged before it was revealed, it's being rushed. Like Kenny, I would have liked today's episode to focus on Bo and Hope's reaction to finding out what happened, all while John and Marlena spent the whole episode in their la-la-land, unaware of the bombshell the Bradys just found out involves all four of them. And then at the end of the episode, Bo and Hope show up to tell them what they found out, which would pick up tomorrow with John and Marlena's reaction.

Brady and Madison's scenes at the town square were terrible. I don't care how much money Brady has, I don't believe he'd be able to clear out the town square, which is supposedly the heart of Salem and located in the middle of downtown, for a pretty long period of time so he and Madison could ride segways. Those scenes were pretty corny, especially with that music in the background, LOL.

Last but not least, after a six year absence, the black gloved hand returns to Salem!
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Meanwhile, I don't like that Bo and Hope open the envelope at the beginning of the episode and by the middle of the episode John knows what's inside it as well. The writers are rushing through the beats. Bo and Hope should've been given at least a full episode to absorb the shock of what they just read before rushing off to John's place. Let them stew on it a minute -- give it a minute to marinade -- then let them head across town to deliver the news to J&M. It would've been a great way to end tomorrow's episode rather than having John learn the truth at the halfway point in such an anticlimactic way. The way it was written has an incredible lack of suspense. Do the writers know nothing at all about the art of the tease?
Well, the answer to your last question is "yes they know nothing at all about it", but aren't they doing it this way so that Marlena can bear the full brunt of everyone except her knowing it? If Deidre delivers in her performance, it might be worth it. I watched most of Tuesday's show, and I really didn't like how Kristian reacted at all... it was such an unnatural falling into the chair thing.
I didn't like how Kristian did the reaction to it either.
I got the feeling that she wasn't happy about what the secret was or that she likes the sl. I don't blame her. The sl is terrible.
Peter was great though. I feel the writers haven't done enough to fix Bope since the whole Carly debacle happened. The writers seem to not be writing them in character enough.
How can you tell that Kristian isn't enjoying this story, especially based on one little reaction? :blink: Has she ever said that? Everything I've read was her saying how much "fun" she's having...don't think that translates into her not enjoying it. Plus, she loved the Princess Gina storyline in the past so why wouldn't she like it this time? As an actor, I think it would be a hell of a lot better doing something like that than sitting around reading notes and going through bank statements. :blink: How boring! I'm sure she's excited to finally have something to do now. And I've heard it more than once that there is nothing more boring than just sitting around being happy all the time...actors want drama in their stories and if this Princess Gina storyline gives Kristian that, I highly doubt she's unhappy about the story.
This isn't a Gina storyline. I don't know why people think it is.
I don't think Gina is returning.
It'll will just be John and Hope undercover as the Pawn and Gina in Alamania.
Anyway I think the sl is stupid.
The lost 2 million viewers doing the Gina crap the last time.
Don't think they would risk it this time.
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Feb 7 2012, 02:34 PM
I'm another who thinks dark Brady was a positive change. IMO the problem is that when he lost his edge, he didn't turn back into the guy he was before. Actually, the main problem is bradison. Brady isn't really a well rounded character anymore; he's a combination of every gag-worthy romance novel love interests put together.
He was disgustingly stupid w Arianna too.
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I much prefer edgy Brady. I will never mourn the death of showtunes singing Brady. Or Ethan-lite Brady.
I agree, the super white hat was bad too and I really wanted to like him but I feel like he is too emotionless to identify with. He isn't a business bad ass, he barely interacts with any characters and he's been relegated to basically to bang whatever useless new character they bring in.

I thought he finally hit a good place during the baby swap and quickly turned him away.
I feel that way about every character in the baby switch. None of them moved forward really.

ITA Brady was Nicoles only friend and ally. I thought him helping her after her miscarriage and keeping her secrets was a good foundation for them. Even the recent revisits of Brady/Nicole have been pointless. I sort of feel he should be FBI or something edgy yet heroic and needs a more traditional kind of damsel in distress romance. And it hasn't helped Madison as a character either. Shes supposed to be some edgy businesswoman and it doesn't work with him.
My God, Brady has been boring me since spring 2009. 3 years.

Better involve someone else in Bradison's story or she'll be dropped and the next real, true love of Brady's life will be brought on.
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Sami who?

HORRIBLE HORRIBLE acting by CC today. She tried her very hardest to make herself cry, and she failed MISERABLY. It was so bad that it almost had me break down into tears.

And don't even get me started on the SAFE scenes. I laughed the entire time. The writers should seriously think twice next time before giving CC, AS, OR GG any material that would require them to emote, because todays scenes were fucking horrible.
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