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| Thursday, February 9th Daily Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 8 2012, 03:11 PM (9,982 Views) | |
| Skye | Feb 8 2012, 03:11 PM Post #1 |
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Thursday, February 9th stef home playing chess by himself in the dark kate comes in and turns the light on cook wants to know if we are going to eat in or out he says doesnt matter she wants to know whats wrong he says nothing she says he is a liar you are thinking about what alice put in the envelope he says she is right she says she knows he is upset but its nothing compared to the special hell he has created for john and marlena and bo and hope, and now john and hope are married , the past is coming back to haunt them john and hope and bo and marlena are all together at the apartment they talk about the marriage certificate waiting for carrie to call them back to see what it will take to get the marriage annulled,should be open and shut , not like either of them will contest it john says there might be a lot of red tape to cut through Hope says one day we will laugh about this marlena says im not so sure about that Madison in her room calling someone brady shows up with flowers all dressed up nice in a suit Ej is in his bedroom, sitting on his bed reading , glasses on Nicole comes in and says your father was brooding over the chess board, so i thought i would come up here and go over this he says yeah good idea she says your father is not the only one brooding is he?i dont know if polls will cheer you up but they arent as bad as they could be he says i dont want to talk about polls right now she says well you have to he says no i dont cuz as of this moment im not running for mayor she says what do you mean you are dropping out of the race?ok so polls arent as great as we hoped and the debate didnt go as well as we hoped it would but so what , abe gave you a bad questions he says im not dropping out of the race, i said as of this moment im not running for mayor i dont want to talk about politics anymore , i dont want to talk about statistics or polls , id like to talk about how beautiful my wife is my pr person can go somewhere else i dont want to talk about politics rather focus on your domestic issues, he kisses her she says domestic issues are always central to a successful campaign he says im glad we are on the same page they kiss madison loves the flowers he asks if she is free she says yes he says good you have a very important date tonight he made a reservation she kisses him stef says i like the way you put a positive spins on things mr and mrs john black bo and hope must be going through hell now and there nothing to worry about as far as what alice has in the envelope what you dont know cant hurt you kate says so we agree not to talk about the elephant in the room he asks about work she tells him she is glad she hired sami she not only brought madison secrets, she has good ideas of her own Stef says he isnt surprised , she is her mothers daughter marlena says we all know stefano,the worse thing to do is to underestimate him , sure he thought long and hard about what went into that envelope Hope says the marriage can be annulled it doesnt mean anything this isnt worth the paper its printed on bo says its not like stefano to count on this paper to hold its value john says might be more to this than we think bo says we should go talk to him and tell him we have this john says and see how he reacts to it marlena says we should all go together stefs doorbell rings bo and friends come in to the house kate says she loves it when friends stop by lets pop some corn hope says you think this is funny,we dont stef says you seem upset mrs brady i didn try to warn you kate says try to be a bit more delicateyou can imagine how devastating this must be to john stef says i tell my wife everything, its a basis of a good marriage dont you and john, i mean bo discuss everything, i mean what a horrible way for him to find out what you did ej and nicole are in bed now he says are you still thinking about politics she says no just thinking about some of the things we just did might shock your constituency he says i dont give a damn about my constituency at the moment just you she says well thats good thing he says i wanted you to know i know how lucky i am to be here with you to have you in my life she says this is true he says im not going to do anything to risk loosing you she says are you implying that i might he says , we are cut from the same cloth you and me can you imagine you imagine you and i the first family of salem , my goodness she says we will knock them dead madison gets dressed in a nice dress they chat about her not taking the ceo job and she says she has no regrets ej and nic still in bed she says im hungry they laugh he says him too she says now that you have teken complete advantage of me its time for you to buy me some dinner save room for desert she gets up he sighs brady and madison go to the square for dinner he says this is where we first met he remembers how she played along so well when he thought she was the hostesses here the waiter brings champagne brady wants this to be a night that she will remember brady makes a toast to the most beautiful woman i have ever met Bo says your games arent going to work even if the certificate is valid stef says of course it is, but you already know that otherwise you would not be here john says whats in t for you back when you had hope and me under control you could have done some real damage , but what now after all these years Hope says bo is my husband ,marlena is johns wife that piece of paper is just an annoying technicality , so as soon as we take care of it , it will be as if it never existed Stef says but it is whats in your heart that really counts isnt it? As long as everything is in order,you dont need me now do you marlena says i dont understand why you think this is great little bargaining chip, we knew about it, we dealt with it, its ancient history can be dealt with quite legally stef says if thats the case there was no reason to lock it up all those years ago right if you really believed that you would not be here now brady says he has something to ask her she thinks he is trying to get her to work for basic black he says no nothing to do with business he feels like he has known her forever even though it hasnt been that long he says he gave up on the idea of finding anyone he thinks about her all the time when he wakes up and he always wakes up happy now no one has ever made him feel the way she does he gets down on one knee and shows her a ring says madison will you marry me ej and walk in to the square and see brady down on one knee proposing to madison nicole looks uncomfortable madison says this was the last thing i expected he says i love you she says i love you too she stands up and hugs him ej says did that bother you she says no why would it he says nicole? she says ok a little he says its ok kisses her head she looks so sad Bo says we are here to find out what you think you are going to gain from all of this Stef says nothing did you remember how i tried to convince you not to open the box Kate says are you 2 kids going to write your own vows this time around? stef says when you bring up the annulment , it could bring up the other question john says like what? Stef says i would love to tell you but no one here wants to hear it kate says oh no, i do, i cant wait to hear ej says that bothers you? She says yes but not because i want to be with brady they are getting engaged he says so it bother you brady is getting marred she says no you know how badly i react to other women being happy he says but she isnt going to be happy she is marrying Brady Nic says she seems happy he says she is crying, sort of the preview for the rest of her life nic says she is crying cuz she is thrilled, this is the most wonderful moment in her life filled with love , hope happiness and promises he says and its all down hill from there Brady says looks like we have an audience nic says they see us Ej says oh really, thats the worse thing about being a politician ,is you have to go and be nice to people, come on Hope says what is it you think we dont want to hear stef says not hear, admitting john says admitting what? Stef says the discovery that you and Hope are married will rekindle Bos anxiety bout you having made love to his wife once and it will also rekindle his anger knowing it didnt come out too good i tried to keep this a secret so you wouldnt have to worry that hope was thinking about john when she was making love to you and that it wasnt too good on your part Bo says you are a bastard marlena says stefano we know what you are trying to do and its not going to work this time stef says what is it that im doing you are here in my living room,i didnt come seeking you out marlena i dont want to hurt you and i know how hard that word is thats going marlena says please dont even reach for it he says but i know your brain power is you cant find it in the world that is strong enough to be able to change 2 people , force them to do something they would never do i cant make them get married unless it was something they really want to do ej and nicole go over brady Ej says we couldnt help notice that you were down on one knee and you had a ring, i hope congratulations are in order he shakes bradys hand and says congratulations Brady thanks him nic says we hope you both will be very happy , im sure you want to be alone brady dont forget to change your status she walks away Ej follows brady says i havent got an answer from you yet john says we know you will do anything to destroy what bo and hope have and what me and marlena have Hope says you will never have anything like it not falling for your mind games kate says you are all protesting a little too much Stef says marlena you are not bothered that john took sacred vows with Hope and then went through an entire wedding ceremony with you shortly after bo says they had no idea they were married stef says would they tell you if they did you are taking this info so well thinking like what the hell there is nothing to worry about ej and nic go to a table to eat nic keeps looking over at brady EJ says if this is bothering you we can go some place else she says no,im fine brady is a part of my past i moved on and i dont want to look back madison says this is all so sudden im overwhelmed he says its ok take all the time you need she says im sorry i know you are disappointed he says you could never disappoint me he understands , he gets it thought he would never take the step again either but everything changed when he met he rand fell in love with her he didnt expect her to say yes tonight wants her to take her time she said it was a bit of a surprise but she is happy that he asked her she is touched and she will give her answer soon marlena says lets go we found out what we came to learn the situation is what we thought it was its a sad old man who wants to feel powerful by revisiting his past triumphs so sad stef says thats not bad almost believable Marlena says did you open the envelope and find out what alice has on you Hope says he wont tell anyone it will haunt him forever they leave Ej and Nicole sit in silence she keeps looking at brady EJ says clearly something is bothering you , if it isnt Brady is it me she says in a way it is kate says you were magnificent he says im glad you think so she says im impressed with the way you stay one step ahead of your enemies he says they tried to put up a good front but by the time they left they were shaken this is just beginning there is much more to come that they dont know anything about the road to the annulment is fraught with peril by the time they get it maybe they wont want it stay tuned kate goes to talk to cook stefano looks worried brady and madison go home she says this is a night ill never forget she asks him to come in he says not tonight ej says it is me ok have i done something to disappoint you she says ej it is not something you can help ever since i was a little girl i wanted that story book romance the thing that only happens in fairy tales,where the prince rides up on his white horse and sweeps me off my feet it only happens in childhood fantasies he smiles bo and friends go home marlena says the worse thing we can do is let him know he has us worried john gets a call he says this isnt going to be as easy as i thought stefano opens his desk drawer and takes out the envelope he sits at the desk and thinks about what Hope said Brady thinks she needs time alone without distractions to decide what her answer is going to be he loves her no matter what she decides he kisses her goodnight she goes in and closes the door and an old man says hello my darling i have been waiting for you |
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| AFaithL | Feb 8 2012, 03:29 PM Post #2 |
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This John/Hope story is shitty. Period. Edited by AFaithL, Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM.
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:29 PM Post #3 |
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Thanks Skye. Ugh this Jope story is just so STUPID! It's like the writers are grasping at random elements of past stories that worked rather than taking the time to actually construct one now. What, is Carrie going to tell them that with all her U of Switzerland law knowledge, she's familiar with the rare legal precedents in 'Alamania'? I also think it's distracting to not have an overall tone to the show. This story is very sci-fi-ish, which is fine in and of itself, but then you have Sami having cheated on Rafe because she thought her son was dead because John's creditors (or something) shot at him. Then you have a campaign story which is definitely going for "ripped from the headlines" type of things. Where does this fit in?? |
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| Virgo Twins | Feb 8 2012, 03:30 PM Post #4 |
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Sounds like a good episode I am going to find the Stefano/Kate Bo/Hope John/Marlena scenes very entertaining. I did not think that Kate would be there for the confrontation but I am glad that she is. She is still standing by Stefano. Looks like Kate was getting a kick out of watching Stefano play games with them, magnificent was the word she used. Nicole seems bothered by the proposal guess she may still be harboring some feelings for Brady that she does not want Ej to know about. Stefano is still worrying about that envelope he really should just open it but he is just as worried as to what his envelope will reveal as Hope was worried as what hers will reveal. Stefano it putting on a brave front he does not want anyone to know that he is scared too. He is thinking that whatever is in there that it will impact his life in a big way. Stefano is deflecting by playing mind games with John/Marlena Bo/Hope because he is really scared right now but he does not want to show it. Whatever is in that envelope it must be bad bad bad. He doesn not want them to find out what is in his envelope. Stefano told Kate that it is not over what else are they all going to find out. It's not over for them well it's not over for Stefano either. Ian is here let the games beigin kids!!!!!! Can't wait to see what he brings. I am going to enjoy this episode with the exception of the Brady/Madison stuff I just am not feeling them. I don't really think that the Ejole stuff will be stellar to me either we see so much of them already. Edited by Virgo Twins, Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM.
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| bstreis | Feb 8 2012, 03:31 PM Post #5 |
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Thanks for posting. Blah, lots of talking about nothing in the J&M/Bope/State scenes. I can't believe they're going with "insecurities" and "rekindled feelings" for J&M and Bope - that's the best they could come up with? Total utter bullshit. And I guess before the 99 J&M wedding (and before Subsex) there was a 5 minute window where John/Hope (as Gina...that's what they're going with right?) got married. As if Gina didn't muck up that wedding enough the first time around, now they're sneaking in a secret marriage in "Alamania" between the 2. |
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| esp13 | Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM Post #6 |
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I'm not saying it's not stupid because it clearly is, but I kind of got a kick out of Stefano and his vaguely ominous pronouncements. At least it feels like they are setting up for there to be more to the story. I realize that many people don't want there to be more to the story and I can understand that. But, for me, at least it gives hints that they aren't going with the idea that the brainwashed marriage is, by itself, the big problem. Plus, Stefano's vaguely ominous pronouncements always make me giggle. |
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:33 PM Post #7 |
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ROFL I know. Every 2 seconds they cut from 'Marlena the bride who's waited 13 years to remarry this guy' to 'Gina in a dog collar necklace'. It was like, WE GET IT, SHE'S UP TO SOMETHING, KTHX. |
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| bstreis | Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM Post #8 |
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Oh and the mind games planting seeds of doubt is SOOOOOO stupid. How is that even believable given everything J&M have been through together? Oh John married Gina right before he married Marlena under mind control but maybe, just maybe there are feelings there between John and HOPE? Like how does that even make any sense? If there's any kind of jealousy over John's feelings for someone else it would be Gina, not Hope as Gina. Stupid. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM Post #9 |
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Sounds like Nicole senses/knows Ej is hiding something from her. I just wish the stupid beastsex would just come out already. |
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| Virgo Twins | Feb 8 2012, 03:35 PM Post #10 |
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How can Stefano see the chess board he is playing chess in the dark? |
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:36 PM Post #11 |
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I'm getting annoyed at Kate as "Mrs. Stefano", not that I liked her in the first place. I think the Ian stuff will actually do her character some favors. I don't think she was ever the Mob Wife type, and I think they're just writing her to match what Joe's doing right now, or at least that's how Lauren seems to be playing it. |
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:38 PM Post #12 |
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Let it out, bstreis. Posted Image |
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| Twilightsucks | Feb 8 2012, 03:40 PM Post #13 |
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I liked the scene at the HTS alot . If Nicole had been alone I think it would have been bad for Ejole and Bricole angst. Nicole isnt harboring any feelings for Brady. :eyeroll: That wasnt what the scene was about. She and EJ talked like two married people dealing with an issue in their marriage. Nicole knows EJ is keeping something from her and its big. She looks at Brady and Madison thinking they have something soo perfect. Little does she know. :laugh: cant wait to see those scenes. they sound awsome. I bet EJ does something romantic for Nicole. :wub: |
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| graceadler | Feb 8 2012, 03:40 PM Post #14 |
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Absolute crap and stupid ass Kate is there so I'll be skipping this one, I can't stand looking at that geriatric Bratz Doll wannabe. |
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| bstreis | Feb 8 2012, 03:40 PM Post #15 |
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It was ridiculous. And now we're meant to believe that she and John were already married at that point. Why would she even let John go along and marry Marlena, spend a few days in Hawaii just to kidnap him later to retrigger the chip and have him be ThePawn for 2.5 seconds, just enough for a screw? Why not just stay in Alamania with her brain chipped husband and live happily there...and how far is Alamania that John/Gina managed to get away from Salem 7 days prior to the wedding for a quicky wedding of their own? I don't even know why I care, I'm not watching any of this crap anyway, lol. |
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| NikiLani | Feb 8 2012, 03:44 PM Post #16 |
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Wow Brady sure moved fast....I LOVE LOVE LOVE EJOLE, no matter their scenes. There always seem like there's more to how they interact than just typical loving/fighting/scheming. Is Alamania even a real country? I'm so not invested in this story at all. Every other character seema to be going through a legitimate crisis of sorts, whether self inflicted or not but with this quad...it all seems superficial because the writers will never dare swap partners and actually tell a story (dare I say character driven instead of plot drivel). A month from now it would be as though they never knew about the Alice's secret. |
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| bstreis | Feb 8 2012, 03:44 PM Post #17 |
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Stefano: [reading from the Burn Book] Marlena Evans married John Black! And so did Hopina! Marlena: [in Alamanian] You little slut! Hopina: You're the slut! Edited by bstreis, Feb 8 2012, 03:47 PM.
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:46 PM Post #18 |
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LOL! But.. right? I don't get it either. "Alamania" is probably near "Aremid". It makes no sense at all. And I'm sure everyone from Salem will eventually end up there, like "Northern Ireland" in early 2008. |
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:46 PM Post #19 |
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Hah! Love it! |
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| Ellie | Feb 8 2012, 03:47 PM Post #20 |
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The best will be if they scrawl "Alamania" across the bottom of the screen in some Microsoft Word font. |
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