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Tuesday, February 14th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 13 2012, 03:56 PM (14,142 Views)
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am103
Feb 13 2012, 05:21 PM
So, first Marlena tells Carrie she did nothing wrong by kissing Rafe, and now she's claiming that there was something between John and Hope? :puke: Come on, Doc, you're losing your brain here!

And SAMI is the one who gets to slap Carrie? Seriously?! I hope Carrie and Nicole tag-team Sami's ass when the truth comes out!
First let me say, I sort of like Cafe(and didn't mind the kiss really) but Im torn on the whole thing, however, I didn't understand Marlena telling Carrie she did nothing wrong. Carrie even admitted she messed up. With that said, I can't deal with Sami's delusions. Sami is throwing all her guilt of having sex with Ej out on Carrie and Rafe. I can't wait till Rafe finds out and then I hope he tells Carrie. I just want to know if Austin comes clean to Carrie about him "sleeping" with Abby or does Carrie figure it out from talk with Abby. Obviously that love scene CC said she was taping in Dec wasn't what aired today
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Feb 13 2012, 05:01 PM
"tell me to my face you are not in love with my husband"

Didn't Carrie spend the entire episode doing this?
But come on we know Carrie is lying. She's been all over Rafe since she got to town. I think she deserves one good smack for all that puke inducing ogling we've had to sit through.

I actually think it'd be more fun if Carrie confessed that 'yes she was after Rafe and not only was going to get him, but enjoy watching Sami be tormented as a result'. I'm kinda over Carrie's 'Who me? I wouldn't do that' routine.
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I am so thinking that the guy that is willing to stuff the ballot box for Abe is working for Nicole. Jen will go forward when Abe said no and tell the guy to do it and oops it will look like it was all Abe's doing. Yep I'm going with Nikki is behind it all!
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Would someone mind catching me up on Austin/Carrie/Sami/Luca? I am just now watching the show again fulltime. I remember bits and pieces from years ago. I remember Sami sayin Will was his, Carrie fighting her when truth came out, Carrie not thinking could have kids but then she and Austin were talking about it in Dec having them. I remember Carrie with Mike for a bit. So who like who first and so on
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John resolving his feelings for Hope? Is this a joke? John and Hope never had any feelings for each other. They were controlled by Stefano using brain chips. If they try to do John and Hope again they will only lose more viewers. There is no chemistry between those two. They are like brother and sister. This story is a joke and so crap!
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No matter what you think, I DO love you.

So John and Marlena spend Valentine's day talking about John's (never happened) feelings for Hope...

:flipoff: MarDar


Like seriously, what feelings? If anything he had feelings for GINA, not Hope. How could there possibly be feelings between John and Hope? Fucking ridiculous, I swear. And after EVERYTHING that's happened in J&Ms past Marlena's "insecure" about this BS. Get outta here with that. It wasn't believable before, it isn't believable now.
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And the show wonders why they are losing viewers. This story is the reason why.
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Between this boring ass election story and this stupid Gina/John crapfest, my ff button is wearing out! :sleep:
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razorbacks78
Feb 13 2012, 05:37 PM
Would someone mind catching me up on Austin/Carrie/Sami/Luca? I am just now watching the show again fulltime. I remember bits and pieces from years ago. I remember Sami sayin Will was his, Carrie fighting her when truth came out, Carrie not thinking could have kids but then she and Austin were talking about it in Dec having them. I remember Carrie with Mike for a bit. So who like who first and so on
1.) Austin & Carrie were the rooting couple/loved each other, Lucas wanted Carrie, Sami wanted Austin and both schemed to try and break them up.
2.) Sami drugged Austin, put on Carrie's prefume and then proceeded to rape him. Carrie learns the truth and ends the relationship thinking Austin slept willingly with Sami.
3.) Lucas and Sami slept together, Austin walked in and thought it was Carrie sleeping with Lucas, both decided to let him think the worst.
4.) Sami then lied and told Caustin that she was carrying his baby (Will) when in fact it was Lucas'
5.) Sami continuously used her pregnancy and Will to get in between Caustin reconciling.
6.) Carrie uncovered the truth about Will and stopped Caustin's wedding, revealing Lucas as the father. Austin dumped Sami and married Carrie
7.) Sami continued to manipulate Austin, always using him to get him away from Carrie, creating situations in which they would be stuck together somewhere.
8.) While Austin was helping Sami, Carrie started to have feelings for Mike (he was interested first) and then they slept together after months of getting closer and closer. They were caught by Austin. Caustin divorced and Carrie left Salem with Mike.
9.) Carrie & Austin both come back to Salem, reunite and want to start a family and get tested to make sure everything is ok.
10.) Sami doctors the medical records to make it look like Carrie & Austin can never conceive a child together. Carrie ends her relationship with Austin over this news and starts to date Lucas. Sami move on with Austin, keeping the secret to herself.
11.) Caustin learn the truth about the medical records, Austin leaves Sami, Caustin reunited/marry and leave town.
12.) Caustin return to Salem in Sep 2011.

The above is just the gist of it, I may have gotten a few sequences mixed up, it has been a LONG time ;)
Edited by Mitchapalooza, Feb 13 2012, 06:02 PM.
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Feb 13 2012, 05:29 PM
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Feb 13 2012, 05:01 PM
"tell me to my face you are not in love with my husband"

Didn't Carrie spend the entire episode doing this?
But come on we know Carrie is lying. She's been all over Rafe since she got to town. I think she deserves one good smack for all that puke inducing ogling we've had to sit through.

I actually think it'd be more fun if Carrie confessed that 'yes she was after Rafe and not only was going to get him, but enjoy watching Sami be tormented as a result'. I'm kinda over Carrie's 'Who me? I wouldn't do that' routine.
I'd prefer that to happen, too. Still...whether she's lying or not, she's already saying it to Sami's face. So Sami telling her to say it to her face is just stupid. It's not like she's only saying it behind her back or something.
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Feb 13 2012, 05:11 PM
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Feb 13 2012, 05:06 PM
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Feb 13 2012, 04:20 PM
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lexi asks jen if she and jack were doing anything special today
she says no valentines days is a high pressure holiday and we are doing a no pressure holiday


She'd be singing a different tune if Daniel were back in Salem.... :eyeroll:
Jen-Jen has to change her tune anyway, to save face. So of course she tells Lexie that she and Jack are having a "no-pressure holiday," rather than admit the truth. "Daniel and Jack both dumped me because I'm a fickle, indecisive twit, so I don't have a valentine. No flowers, no candy, no poems, no bling--boo hoo." Although I wonder if not having anyone lovin' her up on V-Day is another reason Jennifer makes Jack some kind of offer next week.

I'm wondering why Lexie even asked the question..Jack & Jennifer aren't a couple (as I'm sure all of Salem already knows) so what was all that Jennifer said about no-pressure holidays. They are just co-parents as far as the last time we saw them. Is that an offscreen development or was she just saving face? :shrug:
But Lexie knows Jack and Jen's history. I think maybe she assumed that Jack and Jen would be trying to work out their issues. Which just goes to show how little she knows Jennifer. As Jennifer would rather chase after her ex-boyfriend of 7 months then try to work things out with her husband of 21 years.
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Feb 13 2012, 06:00 PM
razorbacks78
Feb 13 2012, 05:37 PM
Would someone mind catching me up on Austin/Carrie/Sami/Luca? I am just now watching the show again fulltime. I remember bits and pieces from years ago. I remember Sami sayin Will was his, Carrie fighting her when truth came out, Carrie not thinking could have kids but then she and Austin were talking about it in Dec having them. I remember Carrie with Mike for a bit. So who like who first and so on
1.)Austin & Carrie were the rooting couple, Lucas wanted Carrie, Sami wanted Austin and both schemed to try and break them up.
2.) Sami drugged Austin, put on Carrie's prefume and then proceeded to rape him.
3.) Lucas and Sami slept together, Austin walked in and thought it was Carrie sleeping with Lucas, both decided to let him think the worst.
4.) Sami then lied and told Caustin that she was carrying his baby (Will) when in fact it was Lucas'
5.) Sami continuously used her pregnancy and Will to get in between Caustin reconciling.
6.) Carrie uncovered the truth about Will and stopped Caustin's wedding, revealing Lucas as the father. Austin dumped Sami and married Carrie
7.) Sami continued to manipulate Austin, always using him to get him away from Carrie, creating situations in which they would be stuck together somewhere.
8.) While Austin was helping Sami, Carrie started to have feelings for Mike (he was interested first) and then they slept together after months of getting closer and closer. They were caught by Austin. Caustin divorced and Carrie left Salem with Mike.
9.) Carrie & Austin both come back to Salem, reunite and want to start a family and get tested to make sure everything is ok.
10.) Sami doctors the medical records to make it look like Carrie & Austin can never conceive a child together. Carrie ends her relationship with Austin over this news and starts to date Lucas. Sami move on with Austin, keeping the secret to herself.
11.) Caustin learn the truth about the medical records, Austin leaves Sami, Caustin reunited/marry and leave town.
12.) Caustin return to Salem in Sep 2011.
The Caustin stuff from the last regime isn't quite accurate in this summary. Austin returned to Salem and was all up Sami's butt first. Lucas saw Carrie in LA and convinced her to come back to Salem. So Lucas was going after Carrie. Then Austin and Carrie reconnected, but Carrie was torn between Lucas who she was sort of semi-with and Austin who was sort of semi-with Sami. Then Sami changed those medical records, and Carrie chose Lucas.
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Feb 13 2012, 04:25 PM
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Feb 13 2012, 04:23 PM
Dreamer
Feb 13 2012, 04:15 PM
I quite liked AS's straight hair, but the front bangs are way too long and it makes her look like a shaggy dog.

Sami & Carrie's fighting scene, big let down. Sami gets one slap in and Carrie does nothing.
Words, those fightin' words, were a complete bore. Carrie had zero emotion.

I think they fight on Wed

Sami and Carrie have a knock down drag out, which hits a point of no return.
TOTALLY disagree about Carrie having no fire....she had more fire in this scene than she had during her "And I WIN!" punch scene years back.

This is only the first episode...fight episode is tomorrow...can't wait!
I have to agree. I liked the Carrie/Sami scenes today. Sort of felt like the good old days. Sami came out swinging...she had a good amount of fire in her today and even dressed the part, leather jacket and all she looked spunky..very badass. I"ve never been a huge Carrie fan..she's always been sort of one dimensional for me..kinda boring. But She really brought the fire on today too. She exhibited her hidden hatred and resentment for Sami and they both had that "bring it on" attitude today..like anything can happen. I think they were my favorite scenes today (which I haven't been able to say when it came to Sami scenes for a LONG time. It'll get even better when Bryan returns. Sami's the most enjoyable and convincing to watch when she shares scenes with Lucas. Jennifer...annyoying as hell as always. She had that look on her face when Jack's name was mentioned..of uncertainty...and my favorite "I don't know what the f*** to say so I'll say some more annoying shit that makes no sense!" attitude.Soooo over Jenn...Can't wait till Jack rejects...anything from her and gives her a good boot in the ass.
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am103
Feb 13 2012, 05:21 PM
So, first Marlena tells Carrie she did nothing wrong by kissing Rafe, and now she's claiming that there was something between John and Hope? :puke: Come on, Doc, you're losing your brain here!

And SAMI is the one who gets to slap Carrie? Seriously?! I hope Carrie and Nicole tag-team Sami's ass when the truth comes out!
Marlena defenitely come off as insecure. I think J&M fans are shocked that Marlena even asks John about Hope. Even if ppl did not watch Gina and John, way back when, it is really odd that TPTB have Marlena wondering about John and Hope having sex and or hidden feelings. Gross me out. I am asssuming this is foreshadowing because it does not make sense otherwise. Sure Hope is beautiful and screwable, but TPTB are taking us done a road very few are fans interested in seeing.

J&M talk about Stefano keeping Marlena up at last night. Marlena clearly holds Stefano accountable for what is happening to them right now and IMO, it seems like he is going to where down Marlena emotionally while John is away. We all know Stefano has a weekness for Marlena, so this is just another ploy to separate J&M.
Edited by Dreamer, Feb 13 2012, 06:15 PM.
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razorbacks78
Feb 13 2012, 05:37 PM
Would someone mind catching me up on Austin/Carrie/Sami/Luca? I am just now watching the show again fulltime. I remember bits and pieces from years ago. I remember Sami sayin Will was his, Carrie fighting her when truth came out, Carrie not thinking could have kids but then she and Austin were talking about it in Dec having them. I remember Carrie with Mike for a bit. So who like who first and so on
Basic Timeline Short Edition

1993: Carrie and Austin are together, Sami crushes on Austin for awhile without knowing he is Carrie's man
1994-1995: Sami and Lucas begin to scheme to keep Austin/Carrie apart

1995-1997: Sami drugs Austin into sleeping with her, around the same time she sleeps with Lucas. She continues to scheme and gets pregnant. Sami runs away and returns at Carrie/Austin's first wedding attempt and reveals her pregnancy. Everyone assumes the child is Lucas's. Will is born them later kidnapped by crazy Mary. Austin and Sami have to marry in Paris to get Will back.

Sami's lies are exposed but Austin hits Sami with a car and Sami gets amnesia. She eventually gets her memory back but continues to pretend to have amnesia. At some point she discovers Lucas is actually Will's father in 1997 and tries to cover it. Meanwhile Mike and Carrie grow close and Mike falls in love with her while Austin pretends to be married to Sami.

Finally in Fall 1997, on Sami and Austin's wedding day, Carrie, Mike and Eric discover the truth about Sami's lies. Carrie punches Sami and marries Austin.

1998-1999: Sami moves on with Franco while Carrie is married to Austin but growing closer to Mike. I believe Carrie/Mike kiss on July 4, 1998. Anyway Sami's wedding to Franco is doomed, Kate frames Sami for Franco's murder and Austin and Sami go on the run to prove her innocence. Meanwhile Mike/Carrie reach a fever point and sleep together complete with a flying bed. Austin catches them and is ready to end his marriage. Sami is eventually declared innocent, and Austin over a few months chooses Sami over Carrie. Carrie gets a happy ending with Mike, and Austin and Sami begin to date

2000-2002
Austin and Sami are on and off as Sami has a flirtatious relationship with Brandon while Austin spends time with Greta. Eventually Austin and Sami commit to one another and get engaged. At their wedding in Vegas, Sami is exposed for lying about Lucas hitting Will back in 1998. Austin ends things for good between him and Sami and leaves town after a kiss with Nicole. EVentually Sami fights with Lucas and falls for Brandon getting married in 2003, but getting annulled after more schemes are exposed.

2003-2005 LUMI TIME: Lucas and Sami fight and fall in love through Sami's french door accident and the serial killer storyline. Lucas and Sami try to get married thrice but are first interrupted by Brandon then Kate drugs Sami/Brandon and lures Lucas to find them, then Sami is exposed as Stan and Lucas calls off the wedding which leads to....

2005-2006: Austin returns first and begins to grow close to Sami again, while Carrie returns and grows close to Lucas. However Austin/Carrie realize they want to reunite, but Sami schemes again by making Austin/Carrie believe they could never have children. Therefore Carrie marries Lucas and Austin gets engaged to Sami again. However, Sami calls off the wedding thanks to EJ and Carrie cheats on Lucas with Austin. Soon Sami's schemes are exposed again and Carrie/Austin marry and leave town together. While we the viewers are soon introduced to the horror of Lucas/Sami/EJ/Rafe etc.
Edited by JTClassicSoaps, Feb 13 2012, 06:07 PM.
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Feb 13 2012, 06:00 PM
razorbacks78
Feb 13 2012, 05:37 PM
Would someone mind catching me up on Austin/Carrie/Sami/Luca? I am just now watching the show again fulltime. I remember bits and pieces from years ago. I remember Sami sayin Will was his, Carrie fighting her when truth came out, Carrie not thinking could have kids but then she and Austin were talking about it in Dec having them. I remember Carrie with Mike for a bit. So who like who first and so on
1.) Austin & Carrie were the rooting couple/loved each other, Lucas wanted Carrie, Sami wanted Austin and both schemed to try and break them up.
2.) Sami drugged Austin, put on Carrie's prefume and then proceeded to rape him. Carrie learns the truth and ends the relationship thinking Austin slept willingly with Sami.
3.) Lucas and Sami slept together, Austin walked in and thought it was Carrie sleeping with Lucas, both decided to let him think the worst.
4.) Sami then lied and told Caustin that she was carrying his baby (Will) when in fact it was Lucas'
5.) Sami continuously used her pregnancy and Will to get in between Caustin reconciling.
6.) Carrie uncovered the truth about Will and stopped Caustin's wedding, revealing Lucas as the father. Austin dumped Sami and married Carrie
7.) Sami continued to manipulate Austin, always using him to get him away from Carrie, creating situations in which they would be stuck together somewhere.
8.) While Austin was helping Sami, Carrie started to have feelings for Mike (he was interested first) and then they slept together after months of getting closer and closer. They were caught by Austin. Caustin divorced and Carrie left Salem with Mike.
9.) Carrie & Austin both come back to Salem, reunite and want to start a family and get tested to make sure everything is ok.
10.) Sami doctors the medical records to make it look like Carrie & Austin can never conceive a child together. Carrie ends her relationship with Austin over this news and starts to date Lucas. Sami move on with Austin, keeping the secret to herself.
11.) Caustin learn the truth about the medical records, Austin leaves Sami, Caustin reunited/marry and leave town.
12.) Caustin return to Salem in Sep 2011.

The above is just the gist of it, I may have gotten a few sequences mixed up, it has been a LONG time ;)
Wow...thanks.
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Feb 13 2012, 05:49 PM
So John and Marlena spend Valentine's day talking about John's (never happened) feelings for Hope...

:flipoff: MarDar


Like seriously, what feelings? If anything he had feelings for GINA, not Hope. How could there possibly be feelings between John and Hope? Fucking ridiculous, I swear. And after EVERYTHING that's happened in J&Ms past Marlena's "insecure" about this BS. Get outta here with that. It wasn't believable before, it isn't believable now.
Not only has he never had feelings for Hope, but while he was in his right mind, he didn't even have feelIngs for Gina. That was his brainwashed persona, for about 30 minutes, on a sub. When both the real Gina and Hope-as-Gina were in Salem, the real John's response was "meh". He couldn't care less.

And Marlena 's never been insecure about any of this. Or any other woman who was once involved with John. So I don't see where this newfound insecurity is coming from. It was never a character trait in the past.
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Feb 13 2012, 06:06 PM
razorbacks78
Feb 13 2012, 05:37 PM
Would someone mind catching me up on Austin/Carrie/Sami/Luca? I am just now watching the show again fulltime. I remember bits and pieces from years ago. I remember Sami sayin Will was his, Carrie fighting her when truth came out, Carrie not thinking could have kids but then she and Austin were talking about it in Dec having them. I remember Carrie with Mike for a bit. So who like who first and so on
Basic Timeline Short Edition

1993: Carrie and Austin are together, Sami crushes on Austin for awhile without knowing he is Carrie's man
1994-1995: Sami and Lucas begin to scheme to keep Austin/Carrie apart

1995-1997: Sami drugs Austin into sleeping with her, around the same time she sleeps with Lucas. She continues to scheme and gets pregnant. Sami runs away and returns at Carrie/Austin's first wedding attempt and reveals her pregnancy. Everyone assumes the child is Lucas's. Will is born them later kidnapped by crazy Mary. Austin and Sami have to marry in Paris to get Will back.

Sami's lies are exposed but Austin hits Sami with a car and Sami gets amnesia. She eventually gets her memory back but continues to pretend to have amnesia. At some point she discovers Lucas is actually Will's father in 1997 and tries to cover it. Meanwhile Mike and Carrie grow close and Mike falls in love with her while Austin pretends to be married to Sami.

Finally in Fall 1997, on Sami and Austin's wedding day, Carrie, Mike and Eric discover the truth about Sami's lies. Carrie punches Sami and marries Austin.

1998-1999: Sami moves on with Franco while Carrie is married to Austin but growing closer to Mike. I believe Carrie/Mike kiss on July 4, 1998. Anyway Sami's wedding to Franco is doomed, Kate frames Sami for Franco's murder and Austin and Sami go on the run to prove her innocence. Meanwhile Mike/Carrie reach a fever point and sleep together complete with a flying bed. Austin catches them and is ready to end his marriage. Sami is eventually declared innocent, and Austin over a few months chooses Sami over Carrie. Carrie gets a happy ending with Mike, and Austin and Sami begin to date

2000-2002
Austin and Sami are on and off as Sami has a flirtatious relationship with Brandon while Austin spends time with Greta. Eventually Austin and Sami commit to one another and get engaged. At their wedding in Vegas, Sami is exposed for lying about Lucas hitting Will back in 1998. Austin ends things for good between him and Sami and leaves town after a kiss with Nicole. EVentually Sami fights with Lucas and falls for Brandon getting married in 2003, but getting annulled after more schemes are exposed.

2003-2005 LUMI TIME: Lucas and Sami fight and fall in love through Sami's french door accident and the serial killer storyline. Lucas and Sami try to get married thrice but are first interrupted by Brandon then Kate drugs Sami/Brandon and lures Lucas to find them, then Sami is exposed as Stan and Lucas calls off the wedding which leads to....

2005-2006: Austin returns first and begins to grow close to Sami again, while Carrie returns and grows close to Lucas. However Austin/Carrie realize they want to reunite, but Sami schemes again by making Austin/Carrie believe they could never have children. Therefore Carrie marries Lucas and Austin gets engaged to Sami again. However, Sami calls off the wedding thanks to EJ and Carrie cheats on Lucas with Austin. Soon Sami's schemes are exposed again and Carrie/Austin marry and leave town together. While we the viewers are soon introduced to the horror of Lucas/Sami/EJ/Rafe etc.
Thanks. I missed alot.
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Feb 13 2012, 05:11 PM
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lexi asks jen if she and jack were doing anything special today
she says no valentines days is a high pressure holiday and we are doing a no pressure holiday


She'd be singing a different tune if Daniel were back in Salem.... :eyeroll:
Jen-Jen has to change her tune anyway, to save face. So of course she tells Lexie that she and Jack are having a "no-pressure holiday," rather than admit the truth. "Daniel and Jack both dumped me because I'm a fickle, indecisive twit, so I don't have a valentine. No flowers, no candy, no poems, no bling--boo hoo." Although I wonder if not having anyone lovin' her up on V-Day is another reason Jennifer makes Jack some kind of offer next week.

I'm wondering why Lexie even asked the question..Jack & Jennifer aren't a couple (as I'm sure all of Salem already knows) so what was all that Jennifer said about no-pressure holidays. They are just co-parents as far as the last time we saw them. Is that an offscreen development or was she just saving face? :shrug:
IA, it doesn't make sense for Lexie to ask Jen about Jack and Valentine's Day plans. Assumption or just plain dumb? Even though Lexie is a MD, she plays dumb and naive really well. Other than Hope, noboby has asked Jennifer about her heart wrenching love trio saga. Does everyone in Salem assume that JnJ are together, b/c Daniel left town and Jack is still there? TPTB are missing way too many beats in this SL. Makes me mad! :frustration: :angry: :frustration: You'd think Jen would be promoting her 'single' status, but honesty is not one of her best qualities these days and her response about keeping it a 'no pressure holiday' tells us squat!
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