miou07

Feb 19 2012, 02:35 PM

^I'm not understanding how it's a bunch of crap from Meng. I haven't watched Days in a long time except for two weeks last November, but his soap opera is still on the air and isn't going off anytime soon which is more than can be said for AMC, OLTL and the soon-to-be departing GH. No one in the Days' camp is panicking and there's a quote from NBC stating the show is in a good place financially and they aren't thinking of replacing it. What I get from this article is that ratings seem to be less of a factor than making the show at a low cost that makes a profit for the network. Tomlin does deserve the credit for whipping Days fiscally into shape. And people are still watching.

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 02:59 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 02:35 PM

^I'm not understanding how it's a bunch of crap from Meng. I haven't watched Days in a long time except for two weeks last November, but his soap opera is still on the air and isn't going off anytime soon which is more than can be said for AMC, OLTL and the soon-to-be departing GH. No one in the Days' camp is panicking and there's a quote from NBC stating the show is in a good place financially and they aren't thinking of replacing it. What I get from this article is that ratings seem to be less of a factor than making the show at a low cost that makes a profit for the network. Tomlin does deserve the credit for whipping Days fiscally into shape. And people are still watching.

No where did they say ratings are not important . What I saw was that NBC is happy for the time being. Of course they are because the agreement with NBC forces Sony to pay a penalty should the demos dip below a certain number so its a win win for NBC.

I am not a Meng fan because I think he's a Corday puppet and he hasn't done anything extroadinary and basically marginalized/ruined what was working on Tomlin's Days which was Victor/Maggie, Stefano/Kate, Nicole , deballed EJ,and pushed the things like Melanie, Daniel, Jennifer, that were not working, fired 3 actresses, NB, CC, and LS, 2 of which had strong followings, and brought back useless Quinn for no purpose whatsoever. Will has blossomed yes,Marlena in that story a welcome addition, but Sami is still the center of the show. And people were still watching ATWT, GL, AMC, OLTL, and are still watching GH so I miss the point

jane1978

Feb 19 2012, 02:26 PM

I agree with the poster above who said Tomlin is the one who deserves most of the praise. He had a real results until Corday forced him to let Higley write again. And I fully believe if the show followed its course from 2009 it would be in a much better place now.

Paxton

Feb 19 2012, 03:57 PM

jane1978

Feb 19 2012, 02:26 PM

I agree with the poster above who said Tomlin is the one who deserves most of the praise. He had a real results until Corday forced him to let Higley write again. And I fully believe if the show followed its course from 2009 it would be in a much better place now.

What do you mean by "its course from 2009?" Do you mean Tomlin and Whitesell in charge of the writing? There was a very noticeable shift after the end of the baby switch story; is early 2010 when you think Higley was given free reign again? I know that I considered the show virtually unwatchable from about March 2010 through August of last year.

lene

Feb 19 2012, 05:53 PM

Brad Bell: “Women are more independent and edgier,”

Maria Arena Bell: "I still build to Fridays, but my motto is that every day has to be a Friday.”

This is :sarcasm: ...... right??? :lol:

The Room Stops

Feb 19 2012, 02:22 PM

stefenohairychest

Feb 19 2012, 02:14 PM

I notice Ian McAllister is looking very hard at Marlena in the picture shown...hmmmmmmm

Hopefully it's just Mr Buchanan looking at Ms Hall. They worked together before, so they know each other a little.

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 03:21 PM

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 02:59 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 02:35 PM

^I'm not understanding how it's a bunch of crap from Meng. I haven't watched Days in a long time except for two weeks last November, but his soap opera is still on the air and isn't going off anytime soon which is more than can be said for AMC, OLTL and the soon-to-be departing GH. No one in the Days' camp is panicking and there's a quote from NBC stating the show is in a good place financially and they aren't thinking of replacing it. What I get from this article is that ratings seem to be less of a factor than making the show at a low cost that makes a profit for the network. Tomlin does deserve the credit for whipping Days fiscally into shape. And people are still watching.

No where did they say ratings are not important . What I saw was that NBC is happy for the time being. Of course they are because the agreement with NBC forces Sony to pay a penalty should the demos dip below a certain number so its a win win for NBC.

I am not a Meng fan because I think he's a Corday puppet and he hasn't done anything extroadinary and basically marginalized/ruined what was working on Tomlin's Days which was Victor/Maggie, Stefano/Kate, Nicole , deballed EJ,and pushed the things like Melanie, Daniel, Jennifer, that were not working, fired 3 actresses, NB, CC, and LS, 2 of which had strong followings, and brought back useless Quinn for no purpose whatsoever. Will has blossomed yes,Marlena in that story a welcome addition, but Sami is still the center of the show. And people were still watching ATWT, GL, AMC, OLTL, and are still watching GH so I miss the point

^I'm one of those people still watching GH (it's starting to show signs of improvement storywise, thank heavens). But I wish that it had been managed more responsibly not only creatively but fiscally as well. I know that my show is dead in the water even if (and that's a big if) the ratings begin to improve. ABC didn't care about ratings when it came to OLTL. I didn't watch the show, but I noticed its numbers kept going up. ABC had the nerve to celebrate those numbers in press releases even when they had no plans to keep the show on the air.

I can't imagine that GL was more expensive to produce than Days but CBS wasn't interested in the show anymore and Proctor and Gamble was done with it -- and its numbers weren't much worse demo wise than Days are right now. I don't know the story with ATWT. Neither GH nor AMC were managed well money wise. I was hoping that Valentini would help with GH on that, but there's no time.

JMO, but network PTB don't care what characters are featured or gotten rid of on a show or how their characters have been destroyed. I doubt if they even watch the shows. All they care about is the balance sheet.

I have bashed Corday and the gang over the years from here to kingdom come, but I now keep in mind that that man's soap opera is one of the last ones standing. Days' fans still have their show. At the end of day, that's all that matters.

lysie

Feb 19 2012, 07:41 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 03:21 PM

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 02:59 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 02:35 PM

^I'm not understanding how it's a bunch of crap from Meng. I haven't watched Days in a long time except for two weeks last November, but his soap opera is still on the air and isn't going off anytime soon which is more than can be said for AMC, OLTL and the soon-to-be departing GH. No one in the Days' camp is panicking and there's a quote from NBC stating the show is in a good place financially and they aren't thinking of replacing it. What I get from this article is that ratings seem to be less of a factor than making the show at a low cost that makes a profit for the network. Tomlin does deserve the credit for whipping Days fiscally into shape. And people are still watching.

No where did they say ratings are not important . What I saw was that NBC is happy for the time being. Of course they are because the agreement with NBC forces Sony to pay a penalty should the demos dip below a certain number so its a win win for NBC.

I am not a Meng fan because I think he's a Corday puppet and he hasn't done anything extroadinary and basically marginalized/ruined what was working on Tomlin's Days which was Victor/Maggie, Stefano/Kate, Nicole , deballed EJ,and pushed the things like Melanie, Daniel, Jennifer, that were not working, fired 3 actresses, NB, CC, and LS, 2 of which had strong followings, and brought back useless Quinn for no purpose whatsoever. Will has blossomed yes,Marlena in that story a welcome addition, but Sami is still the center of the show. And people were still watching ATWT, GL, AMC, OLTL, and are still watching GH so I miss the point

^I'm one of those people still watching GH (it's starting to show signs of improvement storywise, thank heavens). But I wish that it had been managed more responsibly not only creatively but fiscally as well. I know that my show is dead in the water even if (and that's a big if) the ratings begin to improve. ABC didn't care about ratings when it came to OLTL. I didn't watch the show, but I noticed its numbers kept going up. ABC had the nerve to celebrate those numbers in press releases even when they had no plans to keep the show on the air.

I can't imagine that GL was more expensive to produce than Days but CBS wasn't interested in the show anymore and Proctor and Gamble was done with it -- and its numbers weren't much worse demo wise than Days are right now. I don't know the story with ATWT. Neither GH nor AMC were managed well money wise. I was hoping that Valentini would help with GH on that, but there's no time.

JMO, but network PTB don't care what characters are featured or gotten rid of on a show or how their characters have been destroyed. I doubt if they even watch the shows. All they care about is the balance sheet.

I have bashed Corday and the gang over the years from here to kingdom come, but I now keep in mind that that man's soap opera is one of the last ones standing. Days' fans still have their show. At the end of day, that's all that matters.

I agree. We've seen Days in panic mode, and they're not in it now. We may think the ratings look bad, but they don't seem to.

Tom

Feb 19 2012, 08:18 PM

lysie

Feb 19 2012, 07:41 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 03:21 PM

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 02:59 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

^I'm one of those people still watching GH (it's starting to show signs of improvement storywise, thank heavens). But I wish that it had been managed more responsibly not only creatively but fiscally as well. I know that my show is dead in the water even if (and that's a big if) the ratings begin to improve. ABC didn't care about ratings when it came to OLTL. I didn't watch the show, but I noticed its numbers kept going up. ABC had the nerve to celebrate those numbers in press releases even when they had no plans to keep the show on the air.

I can't imagine that GL was more expensive to produce than Days but CBS wasn't interested in the show anymore and Proctor and Gamble was done with it -- and its numbers weren't much worse demo wise than Days are right now. I don't know the story with ATWT. Neither GH nor AMC were managed well money wise. I was hoping that Valentini would help with GH on that, but there's no time.

JMO, but network PTB don't care what characters are featured or gotten rid of on a show or how their characters have been destroyed. I doubt if they even watch the shows. All they care about is the balance sheet.

I have bashed Corday and the gang over the years from here to kingdom come, but I now keep in mind that that man's soap opera is one of the last ones standing. Days' fans still have their show. At the end of day, that's all that matters.

I agree. We've seen Days in panic mode, and they're not in it now. We may think the ratings look bad, but they don't seem to.

Well, that's a shame. I would hope the goal would be to get in the 4's again. (Yes, that that would be the goal, maybe not the reality.) Settling for the bottom isn't the mission.

lysie

Feb 19 2012, 07:41 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 03:21 PM

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 02:59 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 02:35 PM

^I'm not understanding how it's a bunch of crap from Meng. I haven't watched Days in a long time except for two weeks last November, but his soap opera is still on the air and isn't going off anytime soon which is more than can be said for AMC, OLTL and the soon-to-be departing GH. No one in the Days' camp is panicking and there's a quote from NBC stating the show is in a good place financially and they aren't thinking of replacing it. What I get from this article is that ratings seem to be less of a factor than making the show at a low cost that makes a profit for the network. Tomlin does deserve the credit for whipping Days fiscally into shape. And people are still watching.

No where did they say ratings are not important . What I saw was that NBC is happy for the time being. Of course they are because the agreement with NBC forces Sony to pay a penalty should the demos dip below a certain number so its a win win for NBC.

I am not a Meng fan because I think he's a Corday puppet and he hasn't done anything extroadinary and basically marginalized/ruined what was working on Tomlin's Days which was Victor/Maggie, Stefano/Kate, Nicole , deballed EJ,and pushed the things like Melanie, Daniel, Jennifer, that were not working, fired 3 actresses, NB, CC, and LS, 2 of which had strong followings, and brought back useless Quinn for no purpose whatsoever. Will has blossomed yes,Marlena in that story a welcome addition, but Sami is still the center of the show. And people were still watching ATWT, GL, AMC, OLTL, and are still watching GH so I miss the point

^I'm one of those people still watching GH (it's starting to show signs of improvement storywise, thank heavens). But I wish that it had been managed more responsibly not only creatively but fiscally as well. I know that my show is dead in the water even if (and that's a big if) the ratings begin to improve. ABC didn't care about ratings when it came to OLTL. I didn't watch the show, but I noticed its numbers kept going up. ABC had the nerve to celebrate those numbers in press releases even when they had no plans to keep the show on the air.

I can't imagine that GL was more expensive to produce than Days but CBS wasn't interested in the show anymore and Proctor and Gamble was done with it -- and its numbers weren't much worse demo wise than Days are right now. I don't know the story with ATWT. Neither GH nor AMC were managed well money wise. I was hoping that Valentini would help with GH on that, but there's no time.

JMO, but network PTB don't care what characters are featured or gotten rid of on a show or how their characters have been destroyed. I doubt if they even watch the shows. All they care about is the balance sheet.

I have bashed Corday and the gang over the years from here to kingdom come, but I now keep in mind that that man's soap opera is one of the last ones standing. Days' fans still have their show. At the end of day, that's all that matters.

I agree. We've seen Days in panic mode, and they're not in it now. We may think the ratings look bad, but they don't seem to.

dc cubs

Feb 19 2012, 08:41 PM

lysie

Feb 19 2012, 07:41 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 03:21 PM

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 02:59 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

^I'm one of those people still watching GH (it's starting to show signs of improvement storywise, thank heavens). But I wish that it had been managed more responsibly not only creatively but fiscally as well. I know that my show is dead in the water even if (and that's a big if) the ratings begin to improve. ABC didn't care about ratings when it came to OLTL. I didn't watch the show, but I noticed its numbers kept going up. ABC had the nerve to celebrate those numbers in press releases even when they had no plans to keep the show on the air.

I can't imagine that GL was more expensive to produce than Days but CBS wasn't interested in the show anymore and Proctor and Gamble was done with it -- and its numbers weren't much worse demo wise than Days are right now. I don't know the story with ATWT. Neither GH nor AMC were managed well money wise. I was hoping that Valentini would help with GH on that, but there's no time.

JMO, but network PTB don't care what characters are featured or gotten rid of on a show or how their characters have been destroyed. I doubt if they even watch the shows. All they care about is the balance sheet.

I have bashed Corday and the gang over the years from here to kingdom come, but I now keep in mind that that man's soap opera is one of the last ones standing. Days' fans still have their show. At the end of day, that's all that matters.

I agree. We've seen Days in panic mode, and they're not in it now. We may think the ratings look bad, but they don't seem to.

That is a big problem because KC and Days should be in panic mode with where their demos are at now. Once again, KC is waiting too long to make a change in the HW situation.

Ellie

Feb 19 2012, 12:54 PM

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and ratings/demos are worse than even the worst of Higley/Tomlin.

That's just not true! Higley got the show down to 1.6 on some days, and people were speculating that if she stayed on, the show would be canceled.

StoryGirl

Feb 19 2012, 10:21 PM

Ellie

Feb 19 2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

 

and ratings/demos are worse than even the worst of Higley/Tomlin.

That's just not true! Higley got the show down to 1.6 on some days, and people were speculating that if she stayed on, the show would be canceled.

Days is reaching historical lows in the key demographic, the only barometer of importance for advertisers.

lysie

Feb 19 2012, 08:24 PM

Tom

Feb 19 2012, 08:18 PM

lysie

Feb 19 2012, 07:41 PM

miou07

Feb 19 2012, 03:21 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

I agree. We've seen Days in panic mode, and they're not in it now. We may think the ratings look bad, but they don't seem to.

Well, that's a shame. I would hope the goal would be to get in the 4's again. (Yes, that that would be the goal, maybe not the reality.) Settling for the bottom isn't the mission.

The 4s?

OldDaysFankat

Feb 19 2012, 06:30 PM

lene

Feb 19 2012, 05:53 PM

Brad Bell: “Women are more independent and edgier,”

Maria Arena Bell: "I still build to Fridays, but my motto is that every day has to be a Friday.”

This is :sarcasm: ...... right??? :lol:

Ok the MAB comment is laughable but I actually like how B&B write for their women over the other soaps. The women are not dumbed down for the men anymore than the men are dumbed down for the women and we actually get to see women in the workplace. A lot of that is probably due to SF and Stephanie.