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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
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Hasn't she used her sexuality (maybe not sex itself) countless times to get the money and power she wants?
Yes but money and power aren't what she's going for here.
What exactly IS she going for here? For me, her motive is the missing link. Nicole does not want to have share the baby with EJ. I know she's claiming to fear the DiMeras, but that doesn't compute with her previous behavior. All that's changed is EJ hooking up with Sami after she gave him divorce papers. It's a really selfish reason, but then Nicole is selfish and so is EJ. Nicole wanted a child with him, despite knowing chapter & verse of his and his family's criminal history, when she believed a child would cement her place on the DiMera family tree. Part of that was greed, but a good-sized chunk was a craving for security and love. Now Nicole believes she and probably her child as well would always come in second to EJ's family with Sami, and she wants no part. Of course, I'm filling in holes because the writers seldom do.
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Jun 16 2012, 02:51 PM
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Hasn't she used her sexuality (maybe not sex itself) countless times to get the money and power she wants?
Yes but money and power aren't what she's going for here.
What exactly IS she going for here? For me, her motive is the missing link. I think this is to mess with EJ because she's still upset he slept with Sami, and maybe moreso that it's proof that he's still not over her. It's a pathetic reason but her reason nonetheless. The power comes from messing making EJ suffer and keeping his kid away from him.
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Monday ("Will Faces Trouble") Sonny warns Will to stay away from the DiMeras; Nicole and Daniel get intimate; Ciara fears she is going to lose her mother.
Daniel and Nicole get intimate? You have got to be kidding me. Wasn't there just a spoiler about Ejole excited about the baby? Yea Nicole is destroyed, she went from Ej, to Rafe, to Daniel and yet Ejole are a match made in heaven? No more. GAG ME :puke:
She didn't go from EJ to Rafe to Daniel. All she has had with Rafe is friendship and one kiss so far with Daniel. She isn't sleeping with one man and than another, etc. She has in the past though, so if that's what it takes to be destroyed, Nicole got destroyed about ten years ago.
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Jun 16 2012, 02:58 PM
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I think they are just trynna get the fans riled. Guess what writers, this one is not falling for it any more! I can not believe how much of an Ejole fan I've become. I used to loathe Ej, now I just hate him bc he is not going after Nicole the way he should. Dear writers, please give Ej his balls back, this one hurts to watch! When has he ever gone after Nicole before now? I don't think the problem is EJ--I think the problem in the past has been Nicole. At least now Nicole is showing some backbone.
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Jun 16 2012, 02:58 PM
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Yes but money and power aren't what she's going for here.
What exactly IS she going for here? For me, her motive is the missing link.
Nicole does not want to have share the baby with EJ. I know she's claiming to fear the DiMeras, but that doesn't compute with her previous behavior. All that's changed is EJ hooking up with Sami after she gave him divorce papers. It's a really selfish reason, but then Nicole is selfish and so is EJ. Nicole wanted a child with him, despite knowing chapter & verse of his and his family's criminal history, when she believed a child would cement her place on the DiMera family tree. Part of that was greed, but a good-sized chunk was a craving for security and love. Now Nicole believes she and probably her child as well would always come in second to EJ's family with Sami, and she wants no part. Of course, I'm filling in holes because the writers seldom do. Nicole left EJ because he lied to her. That was the transgression; she couldn't trust him after she made a pact with a well known liar not to lie. .
Now she claims to hate the DiMera lifestyle and desire it at the same time. She hates EJ but she can't resist his charms except when she can. And she realizes that trustworthy, protective Rafe is the kind of man she really wants and admires. And she is attracted to Dan because he changed the tests to help her hide EJs baby (though she's glad it's EJs and glad its a DiMera but she doesn't want anyone to know). Now she might be playing Dan, now she might be intimate with him.....
WTF is going on.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:01 PM
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I think they are just trynna get the fans riled. Guess what writers, this one is not falling for it any more! I can not believe how much of an Ejole fan I've become. I used to loathe Ej, now I just hate him bc he is not going after Nicole the way he should. Dear writers, please give Ej his balls back, this one hurts to watch!
When has he ever gone after Nicole before now? I don't think the problem is EJ--I think the problem in the past has been Nicole. At least now Nicole is showing some backbone. Not if she's hooking up with Dr. Pervy. That makes her look pathetic. :shame: MarDar should have had her focusing on the baby instead of making her Dr. Tan's next victim.
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Yes but money and power aren't what she's going for here.
What exactly IS she going for here? For me, her motive is the missing link.
I think this is to mess with EJ because she's still upset he slept with Sami, and maybe moreso that it's proof that he's still not over her. It's a pathetic reason but her reason nonetheless. The power comes from messing making EJ suffer and keeping his kid away from him. But he is continuously BEGGING to get her back. Obviously he isn't over her.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:06 PM
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I think they are just trynna get the fans riled. Guess what writers, this one is not falling for it any more! I can not believe how much of an Ejole fan I've become. I used to loathe Ej, now I just hate him bc he is not going after Nicole the way he should. Dear writers, please give Ej his balls back, this one hurts to watch!
When has he ever gone after Nicole before now? I don't think the problem is EJ--I think the problem in the past has been Nicole. At least now Nicole is showing some backbone.
Not if she's hooking up with Dr. Pervy. That makes her look pathetic. :shame: MarDar should have had her focusing on the baby instead of making her Dr. Tan's next victim. Why would that mean she has no backbone?
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Jun 16 2012, 03:11 PM
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Have I missed a doctor warning Nicole being "intimate" could endanger the baby? Her last pregnancy was high risk too, but she had sex right til she needed an excuse to hide the rubber belly. If this is the case, then I agree Nicole and even Daniel are being written out of character. Skeevy Daniel may be, but he's not that big of a jerk, and Nicole is doing all of this because she doesn't want to share with EJ, not because she doesn't want the child. I thought for sure there was a period of time where Nicole couldn't have sex. I don't recall how long it was for, but they had to abstain for a bit. She got the 'okay' and she and EJ had sex. I remember they were standing in the foyer of DiMansion when she told him the doctor said it was okay. After is when he wanted to take her away for the weekend to that cabin. He got called away on business. She went and then started to miscarry.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:12 PM
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What exactly IS she going for here? For me, her motive is the missing link.
Nicole does not want to have share the baby with EJ. I know she's claiming to fear the DiMeras, but that doesn't compute with her previous behavior. All that's changed is EJ hooking up with Sami after she gave him divorce papers. It's a really selfish reason, but then Nicole is selfish and so is EJ. Nicole wanted a child with him, despite knowing chapter & verse of his and his family's criminal history, when she believed a child would cement her place on the DiMera family tree. Part of that was greed, but a good-sized chunk was a craving for security and love. Now Nicole believes she and probably her child as well would always come in second to EJ's family with Sami, and she wants no part. Of course, I'm filling in holes because the writers seldom do.
Nicole left EJ because he lied to her. That was the transgression; she couldn't trust him after she made a pact with a well known liar not to lie. . Now she claims to hate the DiMera lifestyle and desire it at the same time. She hates EJ but she can't resist his charms except when she can. And she realizes that trustworthy, protective Rafe is the kind of man she really wants and admires. And she is attracted to Dan because he changed the tests to help her hide EJs baby (though she's glad it's EJs and glad its a DiMera but she doesn't want anyone to know). Now she might be playing Dan, now she might be intimate with him..... WTF is going on. That pretty much sums it up. It's all terrible writing.
The writing for EJ in regards to Nicole doesn't make any sense either. One day he is begging her to take him back and doesn't care if the baby isn't his, and the next he is threatening her and wants to take the kid from her. Then he is back to loving and begging her again. The back and forth shit is irritating and doesn't make any sense.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:12 PM
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I think they are just trynna get the fans riled. Guess what writers, this one is not falling for it any more! I can not believe how much of an Ejole fan I've become. I used to loathe Ej, now I just hate him bc he is not going after Nicole the way he should. Dear writers, please give Ej his balls back, this one hurts to watch!
When has he ever gone after Nicole before now? I don't think the problem is EJ--I think the problem in the past has been Nicole. At least now Nicole is showing some backbone.
Not if she's hooking up with Dr. Pervy. That makes her look pathetic. :shame: MarDar should have had her focusing on the baby instead of making her Dr. Tan's next victim.
Why would that mean she has no backbone? It makes it look like she can't handle being on her own and has to be with someone.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:15 PM
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I think they are just trynna get the fans riled. Guess what writers, this one is not falling for it any more! I can not believe how much of an Ejole fan I've become. I used to loathe Ej, now I just hate him bc he is not going after Nicole the way he should. Dear writers, please give Ej his balls back, this one hurts to watch!
When has he ever gone after Nicole before now? I don't think the problem is EJ--I think the problem in the past has been Nicole. At least now Nicole is showing some backbone.
Not if she's hooking up with Dr. Pervy. That makes her look pathetic. :shame: MarDar should have had her focusing on the baby instead of making her Dr. Tan's next victim. I don't see Nicole as Daniel's victim at all. She can't play that card. In fact, if the way Ari played the one kiss scene is any indication, Daniel will end up being Nicole's victim.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:17 PM
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I think they are just trynna get the fans riled. Guess what writers, this one is not falling for it any more! I can not believe how much of an Ejole fan I've become. I used to loathe Ej, now I just hate him bc he is not going after Nicole the way he should. Dear writers, please give Ej his balls back, this one hurts to watch!
When has he ever gone after Nicole before now? I don't think the problem is EJ--I think the problem in the past has been Nicole. At least now Nicole is showing some backbone.
Not if she's hooking up with Dr. Pervy. That makes her look pathetic. :shame: MarDar should have had her focusing on the baby instead of making her Dr. Tan's next victim.
I don't see Nicole as Daniel's victim at all. She can't play that card. In fact, if the way Ari played the one kiss scene is any indication, Daniel will end up being Nicole's victim. I see Nicole as more of a victim of bad writing. I would be very happy if Daniel does end up being her victim. That would mean the scheming Nicole is back and is only manipulating him. One can hope.
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Jun 16 2012, 03:22 PM
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Monday ("Will Faces Trouble") Sonny warns Will to stay away from the DiMeras; Nicole and Daniel get intimate; Ciara fears she is going to lose her mother.
Daniel and Nicole get intimate? You have got to be kidding me. Wasn't there just a spoiler about Ejole excited about the baby? Yea Nicole is destroyed, she went from Ej, to Rafe, to Daniel and yet Ejole are a match made in heaven? No more. GAG ME :puke:
Nicole is no more destroyed than Sami is who went from Rafe, to Ej to Lucas in the span of 4 months. I don't think Nicole is going to sleep with Dan but she hasn't yet. So I don't see Nicole being destroyed. When someone says she "went from," she didn't sleep with them. Sami slept with all 3 of her men. Nicole has been friends with Rafe and made out with Daniel once. Nicole has only slept with EJ, so I still fail to see how she's a skank. When Nicole sleeps with Rafe, Dan and EJ in the span of six months, then I might change my mind. Nicole can have 4 guys in the next couples weeks that she becomes friendly with and if she's not sleeping with them, then she just knows how to have a good time. But needless to say, the writing for Nicole is bad and Dan needs to take a hike off a cliff.
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I see Nicole as more of a victim of bad writing. This has been true foremost characters overall for the past 5 years.
Totally agree that he is her latest victim. Just need to knowbwhynshe needs to play him.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep At least now Nicole is showing some backbone.
Not if she's hooking up with Dr. Pervy. That makes her look pathetic. :shame: MarDar should have had her focusing on the baby instead of making her Dr. Tan's next victim.
Why would that mean she has no backbone?
It makes it look like she can't handle being on her own and has to be with someone. I don't see that at all. If anyone's going to be hurt, it's Daniel. Nicole's totally in control. She's not coming off as needy at all.
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"EJ and Nicole bond over their unborn baby" This is the only spoiler that means a hill of beans to me. Do I think she's gonna sleep with Dr. Orangeglow? Well, with this writing team who is out to destroy their female leads, anything is possible. Do I think TomSell read the script and said WTF was MarDar thinking with Dan and Nicole? Yes, I do. Let's just hope they had the sense to downplay any intimate moments or cut them out all together.
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Have I missed a doctor warning Nicole being "intimate" could endanger the baby? Her last pregnancy was high risk too, but she had sex right til she needed an excuse to hide the rubber belly. If this is the case, then I agree Nicole and even Daniel are being written out of character. Skeevy Daniel may be, but he's not that big of a jerk, and Nicole is doing all of this because she doesn't want to share with EJ, not because she doesn't want the child.
I thought for sure there was a period of time where Nicole couldn't have sex. I don't recall how long it was for, but they had to abstain for a bit. She got the 'okay' and she and EJ had sex. I remember they were standing in the foyer of DiMansion when she told him the doctor said it was okay. After is when he wanted to take her away for the weekend to that cabin. He got called away on business. She went and then started to miscarry. Wasn't Daniel her Dr. at the beginning of her last pregnancy? Maybe he was the one who gave her the okay.
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Have I missed a doctor warning Nicole being "intimate" could endanger the baby? Her last pregnancy was high risk too, but she had sex right til she needed an excuse to hide the rubber belly. If this is the case, then I agree Nicole and even Daniel are being written out of character. Skeevy Daniel may be, but he's not that big of a jerk, and Nicole is doing all of this because she doesn't want to share with EJ, not because she doesn't want the child.
I thought for sure there was a period of time where Nicole couldn't have sex. I don't recall how long it was for, but they had to abstain for a bit. She got the 'okay' and she and EJ had sex. I remember they were standing in the foyer of DiMansion when she told him the doctor said it was okay. After is when he wanted to take her away for the weekend to that cabin. He got called away on business. She went and then started to miscarry.
Wasn't Daniel her Dr. at the beginning of her last pregnancy? Maybe he was the one who gave her the okay. He was. He did the first ultrasound anyways. I don't recall if it was him or some other offscreen doctor.
Do you mean he gives her the 'okay' for this go round? That does nothing but skeeve me out having to visualize how we would conjure that conclusion and than turn around and be the one 5 minutes later. Just :puke:
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Have I missed a doctor warning Nicole being "intimate" could endanger the baby? Her last pregnancy was high risk too, but she had sex right til she needed an excuse to hide the rubber belly. If this is the case, then I agree Nicole and even Daniel are being written out of character. Skeevy Daniel may be, but he's not that big of a jerk, and Nicole is doing all of this because she doesn't want to share with EJ, not because she doesn't want the child.
I thought for sure there was a period of time where Nicole couldn't have sex. I don't recall how long it was for, but they had to abstain for a bit. She got the 'okay' and she and EJ had sex. I remember they were standing in the foyer of DiMansion when she told him the doctor said it was okay. After is when he wanted to take her away for the weekend to that cabin. He got called away on business. She went and then started to miscarry.
Wasn't Daniel her Dr. at the beginning of her last pregnancy? Maybe he was the one who gave her the okay.
He was. He did the first ultrasound anyways. I don't recall if it was him or some other offscreen doctor. Do you mean he gives her the 'okay' for this go round? That does nothing but skeeve me out having to visualize how we would conjure that conclusion and than turn around and be the one 5 minutes later. Just :puke: Ugh, thanks, because now I'm picturing this, too. "It's okay for you to have sex, and hey, my next appointment's not for a half an hour, so the room's free..." :unsure:
I need Kayla to stop making chowder and start treating patients.
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