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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,640 Views)
LonePirate
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badaddiction
Jun 17 2012, 10:41 AM
But we've never seen a basis for a romance between Will and Sonny either. At this point, a romance between them is just a ridiculous as a romance between Brady/Madison & Abby/Cameron. IMO, the only thing they've built was a friendship, nothing more at this point.
It's a very slippery slope of feelings when comparing a close friendship to a new relationship. You mix in some lust and there is almost no difference except for time.

The era is over for soaps to spend several years or even many months in laying the foundation for a relationship between two people. Times and storytelling procedures have changed. If anything, those who long for one of those slow build romances from yesteryear should be thankful it has taken this long for either Sonny or Will to express an interest in the other. That's still not a relationship by any means so who knows how long the show will drag this out, even if it does. The fact that these two characters are gay is undoubtedly the reason why the show has taken this long for one of them to confess feelings for the other.
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LonePirate
Jun 17 2012, 11:08 AM
badaddiction
Jun 17 2012, 10:41 AM
But we've never seen a basis for a romance between Will and Sonny either. At this point, a romance between them is just a ridiculous as a romance between Brady/Madison & Abby/Cameron. IMO, the only thing they've built was a friendship, nothing more at this point.
It's a very slippery slope of feelings when comparing a close friendship to a new relationship. You mix in some lust and there is almost no difference except for time.

The era is over for soaps to spend several years or even many months in laying the foundation for a relationship between two people. Times and storytelling procedures have changed. If anything, those who long for one of those slow build romances from yesteryear should be thankful it has taken this long for either Sonny or Will to express an interest in the other. That's still not a relationship by any means so who knows how long the show will drag this out, even if it does. The fact that these two characters are gay is undoubtedly the reason why the show has taken this long for one of them to confess feelings for the other.
In Salem hasn't it only been like a week since Will came out?
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mer4santo
Jun 17 2012, 11:14 AM
LonePirate
Jun 17 2012, 11:08 AM
badaddiction
Jun 17 2012, 10:41 AM
But we've never seen a basis for a romance between Will and Sonny either. At this point, a romance between them is just a ridiculous as a romance between Brady/Madison & Abby/Cameron. IMO, the only thing they've built was a friendship, nothing more at this point.
It's a very slippery slope of feelings when comparing a close friendship to a new relationship. You mix in some lust and there is almost no difference except for time.

The era is over for soaps to spend several years or even many months in laying the foundation for a relationship between two people. Times and storytelling procedures have changed. If anything, those who long for one of those slow build romances from yesteryear should be thankful it has taken this long for either Sonny or Will to express an interest in the other. That's still not a relationship by any means so who knows how long the show will drag this out, even if it does. The fact that these two characters are gay is undoubtedly the reason why the show has taken this long for one of them to confess feelings for the other.
In Salem hasn't it only been like a week since Will came out?
Will came out April 5 to Marlena and Tenth to Sonny. When he was arrested, it was June 11th even said so on what he was holding while being photographed. So Will has been out for two months. Sonny, however probably knew from day one & fellfor Will since day one.
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mer4santo
Jun 17 2012, 11:14 AM
In Salem hasn't it only been like a week since Will came out?
This is irrelevant. Being out to one's family and dating someone of the same sex have no dependency on each other. Sonny, Marlena and EJ have all known about Will for at least six months, if not longer. That's the far more important info.
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LonePirate
Jun 17 2012, 11:25 AM
mer4santo
Jun 17 2012, 11:14 AM
In Salem hasn't it only been like a week since Will came out?
This is irrelevant. Being out to one's family and dating someone of the same sex have no dependency on each other. Sonny, Marlena and EJ have all known about Will for at least six months, if not longer. That's the far more important info.
I realize this, it was more of a timing question.

I'm totally for a sonny Will romance I just have no interest in yet another insta love and so far I've seen no interest from Sonny.

In fact, we've hardly seen Sonny so for him to have 'feelings' for Will seems rushed and honestly where is there any drama at the moment because,come on, this show can't do romance.

I just want a good story that tptb doesn't fuck up. It's asking a lot.
Edited by mer4santo, Jun 17 2012, 11:31 AM.
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Sure, the era of a three year slow building romance is over, but that doesn't negate the fact that Sonny is never on and Will is focused on another story that doesn't really center on the fact that he came out or that he wants to find someone to love. The "coming out" part is an afterthought and the Will murdering Stefano and being blackmailed is at the forefront.

I like Sonny, so I dont want TPTB to go on the same route that all Salem romances have taken.
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johnwalterseip
Jun 17 2012, 11:16 AM
mer4santo
Jun 17 2012, 11:14 AM
LonePirate
Jun 17 2012, 11:08 AM
badaddiction
Jun 17 2012, 10:41 AM
But we've never seen a basis for a romance between Will and Sonny either. At this point, a romance between them is just a ridiculous as a romance between Brady/Madison & Abby/Cameron. IMO, the only thing they've built was a friendship, nothing more at this point.
It's a very slippery slope of feelings when comparing a close friendship to a new relationship. You mix in some lust and there is almost no difference except for time.

The era is over for soaps to spend several years or even many months in laying the foundation for a relationship between two people. Times and storytelling procedures have changed. If anything, those who long for one of those slow build romances from yesteryear should be thankful it has taken this long for either Sonny or Will to express an interest in the other. That's still not a relationship by any means so who knows how long the show will drag this out, even if it does. The fact that these two characters are gay is undoubtedly the reason why the show has taken this long for one of them to confess feelings for the other.
In Salem hasn't it only been like a week since Will came out?
Will came out April 5 to Marlena and Tenth to Sonny. When he was arrested, it was June 11th even said so on what he was holding while being photographed. So Will has been out for two months. Sonny, however probably knew from day one & fellfor Will since day one.
Exactly John. If anything Will and Sonny are the least contrived couple on the show. The way Sonny looked at Will from day one said it all. And the way Will was looking at Sonny for months says it all also. Yes it sucks they didn't show them more the past few months but it is what it is. They have been established as friends for a year. If they were contrived we wouldn't have seen as many day gay players as we did. They would have had Will kissing Sonny when he first started coming out.
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I need Kayla to stop making chowder and start treating patients.

This was a response to the Daniel/Nicole bullshit, and I fully agree. How much more awesome would it have been were it Kayla, especially given her role in whatever that was with Caroline switching someone's paternity test results? It also would have introduced more of us to Kayla as an independent character, laying a foundation to use her more in the future.

About the Will/Sonny stuff- if they switch gears to focus on romance, I think it's an insta-romance. But, I think that's a good thing because they would be just like everyone else, where all they care about is figuring out who they want to have sex with (or "love") that week. Only we can kind of relax about it, 'cause there's no chance for yet another Who's The Daddy storyline (which- I wonder where they would take this Sonny/Will thing, since they can't really do that).

Since Will is telling his parents about EJ's continued blackmail...I'm going to need to see Lucas and Sami scheme hardcore against EJ. Or, given that Sami's shot him for less (as has Will, actually), someone needs to pick up a gun. Again. It's just wasted opportunity not to bring that in, imho.
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Liz<3Days
Jun 17 2012, 11:36 AM
Sure, the era of a three year slow building romance is over, but that doesn't negate the fact that Sonny is never on and Will is focused on another story that doesn't really center on the fact that he came out or that he wants to find someone to love. The "coming out" part is an afterthought and the Will murdering Stefano and being blackmailed is at the forefront.

This! Yes, Sonny has been on the canvas as a character for a year, but he is rarely shown. So, again, this sudden romantic feelings/romance is just as sudden as a pairing who has been featured weekly for 3-4 months who has gone from introduction to marriage proposal within that amount of time.
Edited by badaddiction, Jun 17 2012, 11:54 AM.
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Is Lucas in Salem? I dont know why they brought him if he's only going to be Sami's cheerleader and sexual partner. Who knew making stew would get her horny....hell, everything gets her horny. LOL

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Liz<3Days
Jun 17 2012, 11:53 AM
Is Lucas in Salem? I dont know why they brought him if he's only going to be Sami's cheerleader and sexual partner. Who knew making stew would get her horny....hell, everything gets her horny. LOL

I think they are bringing in Autumn for Lucas, I think there is a BD interview saying so.


Too bad that Sonny has developed feelings for Will. I wish they would have just remained friends and not be each others' type.
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Liz<3Days
Jun 17 2012, 11:53 AM
Is Lucas in Salem? I dont know why they brought him if he's only going to be Sami's cheerleader and sexual partner. Who knew making stew would get her horny....hell, everything gets her horny. LOL

Aww, I like Lucas and his snark. I wish we could get more EJucas interaction. It always make for snarkilicous scenes.
Edited by badaddiction, Jun 17 2012, 11:59 AM.
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Jun 17 2012, 11:57 AM
Liz<3Days
Jun 17 2012, 11:53 AM
Is Lucas in Salem? I dont know why they brought him if he's only going to be Sami's cheerleader and sexual partner. Who knew making stew would get her horny....hell, everything gets her horny. LOL

I think they are bringing in Autumn for Lucas, I think there is a BD interview saying so.


Too bad that Sonny has developed feelings for Will. I wish they would have just remained friends and not be each others' type.
The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land". Not that she was or that it was a done deal IMO there was a better chance of Autumn coming on under MarDar than TomSell because there was a poll shortly after he returned on NBC that said "Should LUMI reunite"? There was an option "no way he is engaged to Autumn! He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jun 17 2012, 12:08 PM.
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Jun 17 2012, 12:01 PM
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Jun 17 2012, 11:57 AM
Liz<3Days
Jun 17 2012, 11:53 AM
Is Lucas in Salem? I dont know why they brought him if he's only going to be Sami's cheerleader and sexual partner. Who knew making stew would get her horny....hell, everything gets her horny. LOL

I think they are bringing in Autumn for Lucas, I think there is a BD interview saying so.


Too bad that Sonny has developed feelings for Will. I wish they would have just remained friends and not be each others' type.
The BD interview said he didn't have a love interest and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land". Not that she was or that it was a done deal IMO there was a better chance of Autumn coming on under MarDar than TomSell because there was as poll shortly after he returned on NBC that said "Should LUMI reunite" and there was an option "no way he is engaged to Autumn! He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
Ok thank you for clearing that up! I thought I also read that LUMI are on the "skids"(?) soon. Is that true?
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Yep he also said they are on the skids by summer and it was a little tidbit from SID. It really sounds like he has no story and is just in limbo again.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jun 17 2012, 12:10 PM.
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http://www.examiner.com/video/freddie-smith-days-of-our-lives
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Jun 16 2012, 06:48 PM
LOL i love how Dan is the one getting all the blame even though Iam sure its Nicole that will start it if something does happen. Dan from the begining told Nicole that he would get her a OBGYN since he wasn't and she insisted he be her doctor anyway and dan complied with her. Since it takes 2 to tango then nicole is just as disgusting as Danielle if not more since she is preganat with someone elses baby(eww) , and what single man say's no to a willing, offering woman? lol
A single man who is a physician with ethics and a sense of decency.He took a medical oath,she did not.I don't have a problem with Daniel helping Nicole for the reasons he gave when she asked why he did not change the labels for the samples after she admitted changing them but I do have a problem with him taking advantage of an emotionally vulnerable pregnant woman who is for all practical purposes without family or any close friends (other than Rafe,the fake baby daddy).
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LonePirate
Jun 17 2012, 10:27 AM
Liz<3Days
Jun 17 2012, 08:59 AM
Sonny....I guess this is the next character to be sacrificed on the MarDar altar of insta romances?
While Sonny could potentially be a romantic sacrifice, it certainly will not be at the altar of Instant Romances. A relationship between Will and Sonny is anything but instant. Brady and Madison went from being strangers to having sex to Brady proposing marriage in about three months time. Cameron and Abigail went from being strangers to dating to heavy make-out sessions in a little over two months. Those are instant romances. Will and Sonny have been friends for a year and have been eye-fucking for almost as long. There is nothing about their relationship that could be described as instant. If they were a straight couple, one of them would probably be pregnant now.

As far as Sonny is concerned, Will's legal troubles are the least of the reasons to keep his distance. Will's childishness, recklessness, instability and his infatuation with EJ should be far more of a concern to Sonny. I doubt any of that will matter as Sonny is probably too lonely and too horny to care.
Re:Abby/Cameron,I saw one (1) relatively chaste kiss (without heavy breathing and/or tongue).When was the makeout session,heavy or otherwise?
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Helpless Romantic
Jun 17 2012, 12:10 PM
Yep he also said they are on the skids by summer and it was a little tidbit from SID. It really sounds like he has no story and is just in limbo again.
Thats really too bad.I hope he stays in Salem ,I like Lucas and Sami looking out for Will.Since I'm not totally against physical violence,I hope he gets to punch EJ out for the second round of blackmail.
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BeeBee
Jun 17 2012, 01:12 PM
Helpless Romantic
Jun 17 2012, 12:10 PM
Yep he also said they are on the skids by summer and it was a little tidbit from SID. It really sounds like he has no story and is just in limbo again.
Thats really too bad.I hope he stays in Salem ,I like Lucas and Sami looking out for Will.Since I'm not totally against physical violence,I hope he gets to punch EJ out for the second round of blackmail.
I think his best chances of that are to give him as BD wants the fiancee to come on or someone else entirely that is not Sami because LUMI IMO were headed for trouble with the way MarDar were writing them as jumping into a relationship so fast and with her lusting after EJ who I still believe they ultimately intended to pair her with long term. With all of Galen's comments about the tide turning for SAFE in July this does not surprise me and while I do think they could tease SAFE LUMI for a while, what happens to Lucas if they have her reunite with Rafe who I believe she is still in love with? So the question remains does Lucas step aside, does Rafe and then Sami chooses bttwn them? From BD's comments it sounds like she picks Rafe or for sake of argument (EJ) that leaves Lucas out in the cold pining for her... IMO the days of underdog Sami chasing the guy are over So many ways this could go down not to mention that I am sure EJ will somehow be involved too. I also remember the Paley examiner interview where he says exactly what he did in the SID but added that he hoped that Autumn would return "to make Sami crazy (jealous) or crazier than she is. LOL.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jun 17 2012, 04:36 PM.
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