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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,638 Views)
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Is Lucas in Salem? I dont know why they brought him if he's only going to be Sami's cheerleader and sexual partner. Who knew making stew would get her horny....hell, everything gets her horny. LOL

I think they are bringing in Autumn for Lucas, I think there is a BD interview saying so.


Too bad that Sonny has developed feelings for Will. I wish they would have just remained friends and not be each others' type.


The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land"[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I think that interview is in the latest SOD or SID magazine and it was from BD. He was asked about Lucas' summer storyline and he basically said Lucas had no job, no significant other, and no place to live, and that he was in no man's land. BD was also saying that the show could/should bring on Autumn and explore that a little further but no indication from the show that they will do that.

Honestly, I would bet that by the end of the year, BD is out once again. Unless they bring on some females I don't know who they are thinking of pairing him with other than Sami and from his interview, that relationship is pretty much over. Do others deserve to go instead of BD... absolutely but I bet some eyebrows that we won't speak of will stay around till the end of the show!

So if Lumi are doomed this Summer, GG said he and AS have not been working together and JS said he and AZ have not been working together much... I like what that could possibly mean :) Fingers crossed!
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The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land"[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I will say I respect your opinion and that I too once really loved LUMI but after Rafe came on loved SAFE more. and made my peace that LUMI would never be left alone by Kate. I did read that quote now can it be taken out of context?, sure SID after all is a CBS magazine but like I said BD said the same thing as I already said in the examiner paley interview and alluded that Sami would be going in "another direction". I like Lucas and would welcome a SAFE LUMI triangle because both guys truely love her and she them but as I said I would hate for the same thing to happen to Lucas again as in 2010. He if he is not to be with Sami and again Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again, than he needs someone that will truely love him or he will once again be treated as in the past under the new/ old regime who werent interested in writing for him and then eventually writing him out. I just hope whatever goes down btwn LUMI that they handle it maturely because at the end of the day they are friends first and I have evolved to liking them that way best. :)
Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again,

Which comments were these? All I have heard GG say is that he didn't like the fact that the writers trashed 3 years of SAFE relationship and that he misses AS because they are not working together much these days.???
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The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land"[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I think that interview is in the latest SOD or SID magazine and it was from BD. He was asked about Lucas' summer storyline and he basically said Lucas had no job, no significant other, and no place to live, and that he was in no man's land. BD was also saying that the show could/should bring on Autumn and explore that a little further but no indication from the show that they will do that.

Honestly, I would bet that by the end of the year, BD is out once again. Unless they bring on some females I don't know who they are thinking of pairing him with other than Sami and from his interview, that relationship is pretty much over. Do others deserve to go instead of BD... absolutely but I bet some eyebrows that we won't speak of will stay around till the end of the show!

So if Lumi are doomed this Summer, GG said he and AS have not been working together and JS said he and AZ have not been working together much... I like what that could possibly mean :) Fingers crossed!
We shall see but I bet Rafe Sami Lucas Nicole and EJ will all be connected plus from tweets I have seen on this board LK has been working alot with JS and Galen and Ali and am sure BD is in there too. Bottomline I think the dynamics will be the same as in 2009- 2011. With the never ending clusterfuck that is Sami's love life.
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The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land"[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I think that interview is in the latest SOD or SID magazine and it was from BD. He was asked about Lucas' summer storyline and he basically said Lucas had no job, no significant other, and no place to live, and that he was in no man's land. BD was also saying that the show could/should bring on Autumn and explore that a little further but no indication from the show that they will do that.

Honestly, I would bet that by the end of the year, BD is out once again. Unless they bring on some females I don't know who they are thinking of pairing him with other than Sami and from his interview, that relationship is pretty much over. Do others deserve to go instead of BD... absolutely but I bet some eyebrows that we won't speak of will stay around till the end of the show!

So if Lumi are doomed this Summer, GG said he and AS have not been working together and JS said he and AZ have not been working together much... I like what that could possibly mean :) Fingers crossed!
I wouldn't be counting on anything. When JS said he hadn't been working much although AZ they were still going on MarDar's outlines. Same for GG with AS. MarDar were obviously about Ejami, TomSell seem to be more into Safe. Though really its all up in the air. I'm still betting on a Lumi/Safe triangle before the year is out.
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Even though Nicole is manipulating Dan there's still a code of ethics that a doctor is supposed to go by. I don't care at the end of the day if Dan does end up being Nicole's victim, it wouldn't even happen if Dan was a decent doctor that didn't get turned on at the very site of examining a patient. Nicole isn't innocent by any means, but I'm all for her manipulating the tanman as long as I don't have to endure her admitting to having feelings for the Whorange Perve.
Code of ethics? That does not mean a thing on this show, considering Daniel practically had feelings or slept with his patients.
There literally isn't and that's why, though this story kind of gives me pause, I don't think less of Daniel because of it. So far, the show has made it so Daniel had a pre-existing relationship with everyone he's gotten involved with before he treated them and none of the women or their families seem to think there's anything unethical going on; and it's not like he's getting special treatment and having his crimes swept under the rug. Doctors and police officers in Salem cross those lines that would be a violation of ethics or a conflict of interest all the time and usually no one thinks anything of it.

On the BD interview, I don't think there's any way to take it out of context. That quote from BD didn't leave room for interpretation.
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The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land"[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I will say I respect your opinion and that I too once really loved LUMI but after Rafe came on loved SAFE more. and made my peace that LUMI would never be left alone by Kate. I did read that quote now can it be taken out of context?, sure SID after all is a CBS magazine but like I said BD said the same thing as I already said in the examiner paley interview and alluded that Sami would be going in "another direction". I like Lucas and would welcome a SAFE LUMI triangle because both guys truely love her and she them but as I said I would hate for the same thing to happen to Lucas again as in 2010. He if he is not to be with Sami and again Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again, than he needs someone that will truely love him or he will once again be treated as in the past under the new/ old regime who werent interested in writing for him and then eventually writing him out. I just hope whatever goes down btwn LUMI that they handle it maturely because at the end of the day they are friends first and I have evolved to liking them that way best. :)
Oh, I wasn't debating you on whether or not Lumi is on the rocks in a few months, not that they are on firm ground right or now or anything. I knew the second GT was announced as the new co-head-writer that we'd be seeing a return to Safe. That is as definite a prediction as is possible, I think. I don't think you took anything out of context (I guess we won't know until we know, but I suspect what's being foretold for Lumi is correct). I was just saying I see more than friendship chemistry between Lumi, and I think I always will. And I really don't like hearing they are nothing more than friends or even frenemies at times (their chemistry to me is beyond palpable, so I will never buy that line). I just got to throw some support Lumi's way, as it seems they are not getting ANY from tptb. :unsure:

But I don't want to start up a debate on this in a spoiler thread....just wanted to clear up my initial response.
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

Every things up in the air now and obviously no one knows whats really going to go down. All any of the actors can do is speculate. So I'm going to wait till august and not freak. All I know is that if Bryans not on the air, I and my family don't watch. Then we dont see the sponsor adds and that equals days money if we dont buy products. Thats just the way I feel right now.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I will say I respect your opinion and that I too once really loved LUMI but after Rafe came on loved SAFE more. and made my peace that LUMI would never be left alone by Kate. I did read that quote now can it be taken out of context?, sure SID after all is a CBS magazine but like I said BD said the same thing as I already said in the examiner paley interview and alluded that Sami would be going in "another direction". I like Lucas and would welcome a SAFE LUMI triangle because both guys truely love her and she them but as I said I would hate for the same thing to happen to Lucas again as in 2010. He if he is not to be with Sami and again Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again, than he needs someone that will truely love him or he will once again be treated as in the past under the new/ old regime who werent interested in writing for him and then eventually writing him out. I just hope whatever goes down btwn LUMI that they handle it maturely because at the end of the day they are friends first and I have evolved to liking them that way best. :)
Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again,

Which comments were these? All I have heard GG say is that he didn't like the fact that the writers trashed 3 years of SAFE relationship and that he misses AS because they are not working together much these days.???
It was numerous interviews but in the latest paley one he said a "very large fanbase was going to be happy" So he was obviously speaking to his fans(safes and then before that he said things would be looking up for SAFE come July with a return to real Rafe. The interview where he said he missed Alli he was talking the current SL and said he couldn't say much about future sl, but like I have said he did say things were looking more positive for SAFE and from tweets I have read at DR he and Ali seem to be working together again. No matter what though its clear these characters all of them are who will continue to be written for and in SL together one way or another.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I will say I respect your opinion and that I too once really loved LUMI but after Rafe came on loved SAFE more. and made my peace that LUMI would never be left alone by Kate. I did read that quote now can it be taken out of context?, sure SID after all is a CBS magazine but like I said BD said the same thing as I already said in the examiner paley interview and alluded that Sami would be going in "another direction". I like Lucas and would welcome a SAFE LUMI triangle because both guys truely love her and she them but as I said I would hate for the same thing to happen to Lucas again as in 2010. He if he is not to be with Sami and again Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again, than he needs someone that will truely love him or he will once again be treated as in the past under the new/ old regime who werent interested in writing for him and then eventually writing him out. I just hope whatever goes down btwn LUMI that they handle it maturely because at the end of the day they are friends first and I have evolved to liking them that way best. :)
Oh, I wasn't debating you on whether or not Lumi is on the rocks in a few months, not that they are on firm ground right or now or anything. I knew the second GT was announced as the new co-head-writer that we'd be seeing a return to Safe. That is as definite a prediction as is possible, I think. I don't think you took anything out of context (I guess we won't know until we know, but I suspect what's being foretold for Lumi is correct). I was just saying I see more than friendship chemistry between Lumi, and I think I always will. And I really don't like hearing they are nothing more than friends or even frenemies at times (their chemistry to me is beyond palpable, so I will never buy that line). I just got to throw some support Lumi's way, as it seems they are not getting ANY from tptb. :unsure:

But I don't want to start up a debate on this in a spoiler thread....just wanted to clear up my initial response.
I was never one of those that said "they are nothing more than friends". They are each others first real loves and were written as soulmates who I desperately wanted to be together at one time but I realized Kate was always going to be a factor in them breaking up. Whether scheming with Eugenia or EJ Etc etc she was NEVER going to accept them as in love or that Sami was who Lucas wanted. So when Rafe came on the scene I saw it as something fresh and different and like LUMI they were being written as soulmates, who also deeply fell in love and instead of going the Jarlena Rolena route with Sami Rafe and Lucas they wrote him out which I never agreed with because the triangle should have been done but instead like LUMI did their last few years together EJ was the constant angst to SAFE.So I hope they do the triangle now and finally pick someone for her once and for all. because the back and forth has not done any of these characters any favors IMO.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
I will say I respect your opinion and that I too once really loved LUMI but after Rafe came on loved SAFE more. and made my peace that LUMI would never be left alone by Kate. I did read that quote now can it be taken out of context?, sure SID after all is a CBS magazine but like I said BD said the same thing as I already said in the examiner paley interview and alluded that Sami would be going in "another direction". I like Lucas and would welcome a SAFE LUMI triangle because both guys truely love her and she them but as I said I would hate for the same thing to happen to Lucas again as in 2010. He if he is not to be with Sami and again Galen''s comments in interviews point to things looking up for SAFE again, than he needs someone that will truely love him or he will once again be treated as in the past under the new/ old regime who werent interested in writing for him and then eventually writing him out. I just hope whatever goes down btwn LUMI that they handle it maturely because at the end of the day they are friends first and I have evolved to liking them that way best. :)
Oh, I wasn't debating you on whether or not Lumi is on the rocks in a few months, not that they are on firm ground right or now or anything. I knew the second GT was announced as the new co-head-writer that we'd be seeing a return to Safe. That is as definite a prediction as is possible, I think. I don't think you took anything out of context (I guess we won't know until we know, but I suspect what's being foretold for Lumi is correct). I was just saying I see more than friendship chemistry between Lumi, and I think I always will. And I really don't like hearing they are nothing more than friends or even frenemies at times (their chemistry to me is beyond palpable, so I will never buy that line). I just got to throw some support Lumi's way, as it seems they are not getting ANY from tptb. :unsure:

But I don't want to start up a debate on this in a spoiler thread....just wanted to clear up my initial response.
I was never one of those that said "they are nothing more than friends". They are each others first real loves and were written as soulmates who I desperately wanted to be together at one time but I realized Kate was always going to be a factor in them breaking up. Whether scheming with Eugenia or EJ Etc etc she was NEVER going to accept them as in love or that Sami was who Lucas wanted. So when Rafe came on the scene I saw it as something fresh and different and like LUMI they were being written as a supercouple, who also deeply fell in love and instead of going the Jarlena Rolena route with Sami Rafe and Lucas they wrote him out which I never agreed with because the triangle should have been done but instead like LUMI did their last few years together EJ was the constant angst so I hope they do the triangle now and finally pick someone for her once and for all.
ugh, I keep doing this. I apologize -- I did not mean to misquote you. I initially responded to your comment that you see only friendship chemistry between Lumi. You are correct insofar as that is your opinion, but I just disagreed. I realize saying what you said is not quite the same thing as saying "they are nothing more than friends". I did not mean to suggest you wrote them off so quickly as a romantic pairing at some point. But, I guess as a super-fan, it all sounds the same to me....the "they have just friendship/frenemy/high school buds chemistry, now or ever" sort-of comments. I was just disagreeing with that. I did not mean to lump your comments in with others you did not make. But the "friends-chemistry" related suggestions lump together for me, and none sound good. =)

So again, my apologies.

Kate is a constant and seemingly insurmountable thorn in their side - I agree with you on that. And blech on EJ being this gnat-like, annoying constant source of angst. grrr.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deep[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
Oh, I wasn't debating you on whether or not Lumi is on the rocks in a few months, not that they are on firm ground right or now or anything. I knew the second GT was announced as the new co-head-writer that we'd be seeing a return to Safe. That is as definite a prediction as is possible, I think. I don't think you took anything out of context (I guess we won't know until we know, but I suspect what's being foretold for Lumi is correct). I was just saying I see more than friendship chemistry between Lumi, and I think I always will. And I really don't like hearing they are nothing more than friends or even frenemies at times (their chemistry to me is beyond palpable, so I will never buy that line). I just got to throw some support Lumi's way, as it seems they are not getting ANY from tptb. :unsure:

But I don't want to start up a debate on this in a spoiler thread....just wanted to clear up my initial response.
I was never one of those that said "they are nothing more than friends". They are each others first real loves and were written as soulmates who I desperately wanted to be together at one time but I realized Kate was always going to be a factor in them breaking up. Whether scheming with Eugenia or EJ Etc etc she was NEVER going to accept them as in love or that Sami was who Lucas wanted. So when Rafe came on the scene I saw it as something fresh and different and like LUMI they were being written as a supercouple, who also deeply fell in love and instead of going the Jarlena Rolena route with Sami Rafe and Lucas they wrote him out which I never agreed with because the triangle should have been done but instead like LUMI did their last few years together EJ was the constant angst so I hope they do the triangle now and finally pick someone for her once and for all.
ugh, I keep doing this. I apologize -- I did not mean to misquote you. I initially responded to your comment that you see only friendship chemistry between Lumi. You are correct insofar as that is your opinion, but I just disagreed. I realize saying what you said is not quite the same thing as saying "they are nothing more than friends". I did not mean to suggest you wrote them off so quickly as a romantic pairing at some point. But, I guess as a super-fan, it all sounds the same to me....the "they have just friendship/frenemy/high school buds chemistry, now or ever" sort-of comments. I was just disagree with that. I did not mean to lump your comments in with others you did not make. But the "friends-chemistry" related suggestions lump together for me, and none sound good. =)

So again, my apologies.

Kate is a constant and seemigly insurmountable thorn in their side - I agree with you on that. And blech on EJ being this gnat-like, annoying constant source of angst. grrr.
No problem. I hope the PTB this time are a little more creative than using EJ as the angst to Sami's true loves because this go around with EJOLE really grew to like them but MarDar the hacks wrote everybody so out of character with non sensical BS and trashed every couple or were in the process of doing so that I grew to really hate everyone but irionically Austin who still while dumb was sympathetic because of the way Carrie was treating him yet again. So I just really hope things improve writing wise after the re- reset. :)
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Here it is in a nutshell.....

People aren't seeing romantic chemistry because Lumi because they haven't written shit for them....where is the classic Lumi dialogue? Where is the fighting? Where is the back and forth? No love scenes...There is nothing. Needless to say that MarDar were not writing for Lumi, so obviously people wouldn't see the chemistry because it's not anywhere.....OR......it's been known and the actors in the past have said how they intentionally downplayed the chemistry because of where the story was headed.....if in fact MarDar were headed for Ejami this summer, I don't expect BD and AS to play up their chemistry on the romantic angle too much, since that would only make Sami look like a royal slut.....so yeah...I get it...as a true blue Lumi, I'm disappointed that I haven't gotten what I consider classic dialogue and back and forth for my couple....but that doesn't mean that I will never get it, or that the story won't turn in a few months....

GG said in ATL that everything that we see this summer means NOTHING....so what's he talking about? We'll see, won't we....

On what BD said....I'm looking at the story over the moment here...sure he has no job, no home and no lover...but the answer still remains...WHY? What occurred? We'll see soon enough I guess...and It's obvious that the writing for him that we've been seeing thus far was MarDar's doing....it's been awful...and my only hope is that TomSell give him something....sure the history isn't very good where that comes from but the times are now different....Tomlin is not the EP....he's the HW, who is mandated by not only Meng but the network...so he's not in control, others are....and I have no reason to believe that he won't get a story by the time the fall rolls around....from tweets BD has been working with Drake a fair amount of time.....I wonder what that's about....oh and I'm hoping that by the fall, Autumn will come to town...and TPTB will give Lucas a story of his own....
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The BD interview ( in SID), said he didn't have a" love interest a job or a place to live and that he would LIKE to have Autumn come on because he was in "No mans land"[....]He definately needs someone besides Sami because it sounds like he is getting the same treatment as in 2010 by TomSell. They NEVER should have made Cassie his sister they actually had chemistry and she wanted him. I only see friendship chemistry now btwn LUMI.
On bolded, I absolutely and vehemently disagree with the heat and fire of a thousand suns, fersure. But, I also don't want to see Lucas reduced to background scenery, so if I can't have my Lumi -- at least for now -- then of course I want to see him happy and involved with someone else. And Lumi or not, he deserves a proper storyline, in addition to being a friend/latent love interest to Sami and father to his kids (I miss you, Allie). As for Cassie and Lucas, gah blech - I never, ever saw any chemistry there....just goes to show how subjective a thing that is. Yes, I liked someone being interested in Lucas...but ew, no. Not her.

That is sad that Lumi is on the skids my July - I hadn't heard that or seen that interview (is it online somewhere)...? But, it's not like Lumi is in full-force right now or anything. What a rip-off of a reunion. I am slightly offended. Bringing Autumn in would be great, esp. if it ignited Sami's jealous ire. She may still be in love with Rafe (debatable), but we have seen that she can't give up feeling for anyone, it seems....so a triangle of some sort is still a possibility, methinks.
I think that interview is in the latest SOD or SID magazine and it was from BD. He was asked about Lucas' summer storyline and he basically said Lucas had no job, no significant other, and no place to live, and that he was in no man's land. BD was also saying that the show could/should bring on Autumn and explore that a little further but no indication from the show that they will do that.

Honestly, I would bet that by the end of the year, BD is out once again. Unless they bring on some females I don't know who they are thinking of pairing him with other than Sami and from his interview, that relationship is pretty much over. Do others deserve to go instead of BD... absolutely but I bet some eyebrows that we won't speak of will stay around till the end of the show!

So if Lumi are doomed this Summer, GG said he and AS have not been working together and JS said he and AZ have not been working together much... I like what that could possibly mean :) Fingers crossed!
As if Lumi have never broken up and gotten together again? Seriously.....if they are on the outs by July doesn't mean they won't get back together again.....some day.

Oh and sure Ari isn't working with James and GG isn't working with Ali, but has Ali or BD said that they aren't working together? NOPE.....so that may be it too.....

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Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM
Here it is in a nutshell.....

People aren't seeing romantic chemistry because Lumi because they haven't written shit for them....where is the classic Lumi dialogue? Where is the fighting? Where is the back and forth? No love scenes...There is nothing. Needless to say that MarDar were not writing for Lumi, so obviously people wouldn't see the chemistry because it's not anywhere.....OR......it's been known and the actors in the past have said how they intentionally downplayed the chemistry because of where the story was headed.....if in fact MarDar were headed for Ejami this summer, I don't expect BD and AS to play up their chemistry on the romantic angle too much, since that would only make Sami look like a royal slut.....so yeah...I get it...as a true blue Lumi, I'm disappointed that I haven't gotten what I consider classic dialogue and back and forth for my couple....but that doesn't mean that I will never get it, or that the story won't turn in a few months....

GG said in ATL that everything that we see this summer means NOTHING....so what's he talking about? We'll see, won't we....

On what BD said....I'm looking at the story over the moment here...sure he has no job, no home and no lover...but the answer still remains...WHY? What occurred? We'll see soon enough I guess...and It's obvious that the writing for him that we've been seeing thus far was MarDar's doing....it's been awful...and my only hope is that TomSell give him something....sure the history isn't very good where that comes from but the times are now different....Tomlin is not the EP....he's the HW, who is mandated by not only Meng but the network...so he's not in control, others are....and I have no reason to believe that he won't get a story by the time the fall rolls around....from tweets BD has been working with Drake a fair amount of time.....I wonder what that's about....oh and I'm hoping that by the fall, Autumn will come to town...and TPTB will give Lucas a story of his own....
I don't think everything that happens means nothing especially with rewrites happening and TomSell changes starting at some point in July. I an guessing mid to late July because CC tweeted that CAUSTIN's exit was written by Tomsell and was part of their new scripts which she praised. So I am guessing whenever this olympic cliffhanger is was written by them and it airs sometime in late July early August. By August TomSell will have completely taken over the writing from MarDar. So for the latter part of summer it will all be TomSell and things made clear where they are going. On Lucas lack of job and home while where he lives hasn't been established we know he is "working" with Sami still so something must happen to end that partnership down the line. Whether Sami loses the job or she and Lucas just agree they can't work together if they do breakup for whatever reason. TomSell give but I see the busniess sl going away with Madison and Ian gone and Stefano "dead" for now. Alas we shall see.
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Jun 17 2012, 09:45 PM
Here it is in a nutshell.....

People aren't seeing romantic chemistry because Lumi because they haven't written shit for them....where is the classic Lumi dialogue? Where is the fighting? Where is the back and forth? No love scenes...There is nothing. Needless to say that MarDar were not writing for Lumi, so obviously people wouldn't see the chemistry because it's not anywhere.....OR......it's been known and the actors in the past have said how they intentionally downplayed the chemistry because of where the story was headed.....if in fact MarDar were headed for Ejami this summer, I don't expect BD and AS to play up their chemistry on the romantic angle too much, since that would only make Sami look like a royal slut.....so yeah...I get it...as a true blue Lumi, I'm disappointed that I haven't gotten what I consider classic dialogue and back and forth for my couple....but that doesn't mean that I will never get it, or that the story won't turn in a few months....

GG said in ATL that everything that we see this summer means NOTHING....so what's he talking about? We'll see, won't we....

On what BD said....I'm looking at the story over the moment here...sure he has no job, no home and no lover...but the answer still remains...WHY? What occurred? We'll see soon enough I guess...and It's obvious that the writing for him that we've been seeing thus far was MarDar's doing....it's been awful...and my only hope is that TomSell give him something....sure the history isn't very good where that comes from but the times are now different....Tomlin is not the EP....he's the HW, who is mandated by not only Meng but the network...so he's not in control, others are....and I have no reason to believe that he won't get a story by the time the fall rolls around....from tweets BD has been working with Drake a fair amount of time.....I wonder what that's about....oh and I'm hoping that by the fall, Autumn will come to town...and TPTB will give Lucas a story of his own....
I don't think everything that happens means nothing especially with rewrites happening and TomSell changes starting at some point in July. I an guessing mid to late July because CC tweeted that CAUSTIN's exit was written by Tomsell and was part of their new scripts which she praised. So I am guessing whenever this olympic cliffhanger is was written by them and it airs sometime in late July early August. By August TomSell will have completely taken over the writing from MarDar. So for the latter part of summer it will all be TomSell and things made clear. On Lucas lack of job and home while where he lives hasn't been established we know he is "working" with SAmi still so something must happen to end that partnership sown the line. Whether Sami loses the job or she and Lucas just agree they can't work together if they do breakup for whatever reason. TomSell give but I see the busniess sl going away with Nadison and Uan gone and Stefano "dead" for now. Alas we shall see.
What rewrites? I've heard nothing about rewrites...maybe they have tweaked some scenes here and there...we know they've cut others scenes too....but full fletched rewrites? Who said that? I think his first big event (TomSells) is the stuff surrounding the Olympic hiatus....so that is mid August before we really kick into their storylines and as far as I'm concerned the end of the summer at that point.....so in other words I think what GG was trying to say to everyone that would listen and that means his fans too was that whatever you see in July might not mean anything.....come mid August moving forward.

Here it is...unless TomSell want to make me see this show while being deaf and blind then there is NO WAY that I believe that they can go from Sami telling Ej after Stefano's death that he can now be his own man, to Ej turning around bailing out Will and blackmailing him.....now we know that Lumi find out that Will is again being blackmailed by Ej. Who in the GA is going to believe that Ej fucking Dimera loves Sami after what he (not with Stefano's influence or anything) is doing to Will. I think what is going to happen is that Sami or Lumi are going to go after EJ and bring him down...(might explain the promo shots).....
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Jun 17 2012, 05:55 PM
The Dan/Nicole interaction falls completely flat for me. I like scheming Nicole, but her manipulating him rings false for reasons I'm not sure I can articulate. It just seems off.

I know I'm going to be "disliked" for this, but I didn't mind the Rafe/Nicole friendship. It seemed like there was legit bonding over their mutually faithless spouses, and that it really was - against all history and odds - a friendship. Clearly, Cafe was supposed to be the plan and Nicole a bump in that road, but I enjoyed Rafe and Nicole's scenes a hell of lot more than any Cafe scenes or any scenes with Nicole and Dan. I'm not even sure I wanted to see a romance there, but I got why Rafe was doing what he was doing and why they were suddenly so chummy. So, I way prefer Rafe and Nicole scenes. The idea of Dan and Nicole become intimate emotionally or physically just makes me cringe.

Still, my hope is that a recasted Eric returns for Nicole.
I finally figured it out, and it is really simple. When Rafe & Nicole are together, they both have motivation and they have history. Nicole is hurt and fearful. Rafe knows more than anything what EJ is capable of doing when he's angry. They also played the scenes as far more friendship and bonding. But again, both their motives are clear - at least by soap standards.

On the other hand, I have no clue why Dan would fall for Nicole's wiles or why she would use them on him, rather than say, bribing a technician. It far more feels like - "hey, let's put Dan and Nicole together!" It's just contrived.
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Here it is in a nutshell.....

People aren't seeing romantic chemistry because Lumi because they haven't written shit for them....where is the classic Lumi dialogue? Where is the fighting? Where is the back and forth? No love scenes...There is nothing. Needless to say that MarDar were not writing for Lumi, so obviously people wouldn't see the chemistry because it's not anywhere.....OR......it's been known and the actors in the past have said how they intentionally downplayed the chemistry because of where the story was headed.....if in fact MarDar were headed for Ejami this summer, I don't expect BD and AS to play up their chemistry on the romantic angle too much, since that would only make Sami look like a royal slut.....so yeah...I get it...as a true blue Lumi, I'm disappointed that I haven't gotten what I consider classic dialogue and back and forth for my couple....but that doesn't mean that I will never get it, or that the story won't turn in a few months....

GG said in ATL that everything that we see this summer means NOTHING....so what's he talking about? We'll see, won't we....

On what BD said....I'm looking at the story over the moment here...sure he has no job, no home and no lover...but the answer still remains...WHY? What occurred? We'll see soon enough I guess...and It's obvious that the writing for him that we've been seeing thus far was MarDar's doing....it's been awful...and my only hope is that TomSell give him something....sure the history isn't very good where that comes from but the times are now different....Tomlin is not the EP....he's the HW, who is mandated by not only Meng but the network...so he's not in control, others are....and I have no reason to believe that he won't get a story by the time the fall rolls around....from tweets BD has been working with Drake a fair amount of time.....I wonder what that's about....oh and I'm hoping that by the fall, Autumn will come to town...and TPTB will give Lucas a story of his own....
I don't think everything that happens means nothing especially with rewrites happening and TomSell changes starting at some point in July. I an guessing mid to late July because CC tweeted that CAUSTIN's exit was written by Tomsell and was part of their new scripts which she praised. So I am guessing whenever this olympic cliffhanger is was written by them and it airs sometime in late July early August. By August TomSell will have completely taken over the writing from MarDar. So for the latter part of summer it will all be TomSell and things made clear. On Lucas lack of job and home while where he lives hasn't been established we know he is "working" with SAmi still so something must happen to end that partnership sown the line. Whether Sami loses the job or she and Lucas just agree they can't work together if they do breakup for whatever reason. TomSell give but I see the busniess sl going away with Nadison and Uan gone and Stefano "dead" for now. Alas we shall see.
What rewrites? I've heard nothing about rewrites...maybe they have tweaked some scenes here and there...we know they've cut others scenes too....but full fletched rewrites? Who said that? I think his first big event (TomSells) is the stuff surrounding the Olympic hiatus....so that is mid August before we really kick into their storylines and as far as I'm concerned the end of the summer at that point.....so in other words I think what GG was trying to say to everyone that would listen and that means his fans too was that whatever you see in July might not mean anything.....come mid August moving forward.

Here it is...unless TomSell want to make me see this show while being deaf and blind then there is NO WAY that I believe that they can go from Sami telling Ej after Stefano's death that he can now be his own man, to Ej turning around bailing out Will and blackmailing him.....now we know that Lumi find out that Will is again being blackmailed by Ej. Who in the GA is going to believe that Ej fucking Dimera loves Sami after what he (not with Stefano's influence or anything) is doing to Will. I think what is going to happen is that Sami or Lumi are going to go after EJ and bring him down...(might explain the promo shots).....
That is what I mean when I say "rewrites" yes tweaked or cut. Regardless its still changes that were being made here and there from an obvious favorable direction towards EJAMI by MarDar while IMO they were using Lucas as a catalyst to get there. As I said I do believe Galen when he said things would improve in July and it will likely go in conjunction with CAUSTIN"s leaving and Rafe working to free Will. Kind of how like EJAYLOR after they were done there was a sharp turn to EJOLE again. I think the same will apply with CAFE SAFE. I also did say the full transition into TomSell's writing would be later part of summer but late July is when CAUSTIN leave and she did say her exit was a TomSell script so I stand by what I said. On the shots for EJAMI I agree with you that based on how TomSell wrote EJAMI In the past that it wont amount to anything romantic but likely to end this BFF dribble that MarDar were writing. TomSell wrote them constantly at odds hating each other so I see them going back to that.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jun 17 2012, 10:50 PM.
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I guess we will see in a few months where everything is headed... its anyone's guess right now!
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I'm over the 30-somethings. I'm really, really sick of their baby stories. I'm sick of Rafe being in everyone's storyline and being a "Great guy" even though he has morals about on par with Nicole's, basically none. I'm tired of Dan, who has the morals of an alley cat, moralizing to others. I'm super extra sick of anything EJ, Nicole and-or a baby related. I'm going to hit the FF button and somebody let me know when something we've not already seen ad naseun for the last three years happens. When is Madison going to die? Because that interests me.

I won't even get started on the 20-something crowd. They're an even bigger mess of repetative, not-interestingness.
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I'm super extra sick of anything EJ, Nicole and-or a baby related.
I know. I'm wishing that the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang pays a visit one day soon.

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