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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
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Jun 19 2012, 11:54 AM
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MarDar should have been fired sooner. This show is an utter disaster. :shame: If this crappy writing is NBC's doing then be prepared to say goodbye to Days sooner then 2013.
I wonder if Nicole will miscarry because she had sex with Dan... Or either that the baby will turn out orange. :puke:
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Jun 19 2012, 11:56 AM
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I'll respectfully disagree with you and leave it at that.
But I'm actually asking why you think that. I'd like to know because I see no indication that what's been spoiled is any different in influence from the last several months.
The turn was around March when they shared wine, then the following week the contrived plumbing kiss crap and then it's been pretty normal. He comes over to see the kids, she's around for him when he's suffering through either Stefano's death or Lexie's disease....I would say that what we have seen the last month in particular is stagnation on that storyline......not a turn of the corner at all. EXACTLY!! As I have said numerous times MarDar were going with EJAMI and everything they have said done and written proves it. No one will make me believe otherwise. They were the biggest EJAMI cheerleaders IMO.
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I'll respectfully disagree with you and leave it at that.
But I'm actually asking why you think that. I'd like to know because I see no indication that what's been spoiled is any different in influence from the last several months.
The turn was around March when they shared wine, then the following week the contrived plumbing kiss crap and then it's been pretty normal. He comes over to see the kids, she's around for him when he's suffering through either Stefano's death or Lexie's disease....I would say that what we have seen the last month in particular is stagnation on that storyline......not a turn of the corner at all. Oh I was thinking muh bigger picture than who Sami's sniffing around, lol. A corner did turn in March and that means its time to turn another one, but I don't know what that has to do with NBC.
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Jun 19 2012, 11:57 AM
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I don't see this Nicole as that different than old Nicole at all. Dan's not the first person she slept with just to pass the time. It would be more interesting if they gave her a reason for what she's doing as a way to turn these choppy scenes into an actual story, though.
That's just it. This doesn't mesh for me. Nicole with a martini in one hand and using her 'assets' to get what she wants from a guy in the other hand works. A pregnant Nicole stumbling around Salem, rubbing her belly and whining and sniveling 'woe is me' while sleeping with a guy does not work. It needs to be one way or the other. I'm also not okay with her sleeping with one guy while pregnant with another guy's baby. I don't like that one bit. and although her sleeping around might be somewhat in character, the fact that she would knowingly endanger her baby isn't. I don't know what they were trying to convey here and if they were quickly trying to move Nicole away from Ej, and that certainly seems like the plan here but they could have done that easily by continuing to say no and playing up the fact that Rafe was the kid's 'dad'....in front of Ej....but now with Dan shit coming out of the blue...this show is really in a horrible, horrible place. No wonder they need to bring Eric in....she virtually would have been left without any good suitors...
Dan and Nicole sleeping together seems like a big plot point for me.....maybe the idea MarDar had was to write him out soon, having Ej find out what Dan and Nicole did and report him to the board for ethics violations.....and then he'd lose his job and leave town. I can't explain it any other way.
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Daniel returns to his office. Nicole is waiting for him on the desk. Its not her eyes, ears or nose she wants him to examine. After they do something rather unhygienic, they take a break to recall all of the bad things theyve heard about each other. They have to wonder if their feelings are real. They decide that more sex is the only way to answer that question. When they finish sharing DNA First off who wrote this..this sounds like a trashy harlequin novel..second wow I just thought Dick/Dicole kiss didn't know they actually have sex! Wow just wow...
Sami doubts that will ever happen. Their quiet moment is interrupted by Johnny, who orders them to dance. Awww I love Johnny the little matchmaker... I really like these spoilers and can't wait till there on my screen :popcorn:
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Jun 19 2012, 12:01 PM
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I don't see this Nicole as that different than old Nicole at all. Dan's not the first person she slept with just to pass the time. It would be more interesting if they gave her a reason for what she's doing as a way to turn these choppy scenes into an actual story, though.
That's just it. This doesn't mesh for me. Nicole with a martini in one hand and using her 'assets' to get what she wants from a guy in the other hand works. A pregnant Nicole stumbling around Salem, rubbing her belly and whining and sniveling 'woe is me' while sleeping with a guy does not work. It needs to be one way or the other. I'm also not okay with her sleeping with one guy while pregnant with another guy's baby. I don't like that one bit.
and although her sleeping around might be somewhat in character, the fact that she would knowingly endanger her baby isn't. I don't know what they were trying to convey here and if they were quickly trying to move Nicole away from Ej, and that certainly seems like the plan here but they could have done that easily by continuing to say no and playing up the fact that Rafe was the kid's 'dad'....in front of Ej....but now with Dan shit coming out of the blue...this show is really in a horrible, horrible place. No wonder they need to bring Eric in....she virtually would have been left without any good suitors... Dan and Nicole sleeping together seems like a big plot point for me.....maybe the idea MarDar had was to write him out soon, having Ej find out what Dan and Nicole did and report him to the board for ethics violations.....and then he'd lose his job and leave town. I can't explain it any other way. I wouldn't give them too much credit they loved EJAMI and were writing for them CAFE and Bradison. They did not care for anyone else. Those were their "IT couples". Getting what would be considered the "rootable" writing. Except they werent rootable no matter how hard they tried to sell it they failed. Bradison's angst was big bad Ian. CAFE's was Sami Austin and Nicole and EJAMI's was Lucas and Nicole :eyeroll:
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Jun 19 2012, 12:02 PM
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I don't see why this is a big deal. Ej sent Nicole to jail mostly because he was angry and hurt by her and I forgave him that so I'll forgive Nicole too and Ej banged a pig and a twig while married to Nicole so I'll forgive Nicole her whore-ange ommpa loompa. As long as they don't start raping or trying to kill each other I'm good. Hell I even forgave Todd punching Tea on OLTL once upon a time but couldn't bring myself to for give him telling Blair her son was dead when he wasn't mmmm :shrug: I also wouldn't want either of them to force the other to go straight. I like them bad and manipulating even if it is sometimes with each other like right now as long as I still believe they love each other (and I definitely do) I'm ok with this. I do think however that mardar where trying hard to assassinate the Nicole character so I'm glad those hacks are gone. What they don't see is they screwed up every other character in the process. Taniel was suppose to stop this crap because everyone hated it = fail Sami doesn't give a crap her son is being blackmailed making her look like an even crappier slut of a mother (if thats possible) = Fail Ej getting beaten down AGAIN and rolling around in rock bottom while no one else pays for their deeds = fail The fact that the still haven't gotten me to invest in any other characters on the show = huge FAIL
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Jun 19 2012, 12:02 PM
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But I'm actually asking why you think that. I'd like to know because I see no indication that what's been spoiled is any different in influence from the last several months.
The turn was around March when they shared wine, then the following week the contrived plumbing kiss crap and then it's been pretty normal. He comes over to see the kids, she's around for him when he's suffering through either Stefano's death or Lexie's disease....I would say that what we have seen the last month in particular is stagnation on that storyline......not a turn of the corner at all.
Oh I was thinking muh bigger picture than who Sami's sniffing around, lol. A corner did turn in March and that means its time to turn another one, but I don't know what that has to do with NBC. Well, I was just seeing a turn in the most obvious story...they go from Friday, "he's a monster" and "you'll end up alone" to 'hey, how's this Pinot....you want to share the bottle and oh yeah...that sex...it was good" on Monday (and that is literally the way it happened....he was hating on her one minute and she couldn't stand to be next to him and then bam. they are besties).....
but when it comes to other storylines...I guess you have Dan return from wherever the hell he was and by March, Jack and Jen are talking again and then another month and they have reconciled and gotten engaged....
What else...the alemania and the egg shit was hot and heavy for two months and then BAM nothing....
We got the start of the business storylines and then NOTHING
Yeah...I get what you mean.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:05 PM
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MarDar should have been fired sooner. This show is an utter disaster. :shame: If this crappy writing is NBC's doing then be prepared to say goodbye to Days sooner then 2013.
I wonder if Nicole will miscarry because she had sex with Dan...
Or either that the baby will turn out orange. :puke: Maybe they were planning on having her lose the baby, go crazy, and kill Dan! The last part I am okay with. :rockon:
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Jun 19 2012, 12:06 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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I don't see why this is a big deal. Ej sent Nicole to jail mostly because he was angry and hurt by her and I forgave him that so I'll forgive Nicole too and Ej banged a pig and a twig while married to Nicole so I'll forgive Nicole her whore-ange ommpa loompa. As long as they don't start raping or trying to kill each other I'm good. Hell I even forgave Todd punching Tea on OLTL once upon a time but couldn't bring myself to for give him telling Blair her son was dead when he wasn't mmmm :shrug: I also wouldn't want either of them to force the other to go straight. I like them bad and manipulating even if it is sometimes with each other like right now as long as I still believe they love each other (and I definitely do) I'm ok with this. I do think however that mardar where trying hard to assassinate the Nicole character so I'm glad those hacks are gone. What they don't see is they screwed up every other character in the process. Taniel was suppose to stop this crap because everyone hated it = fail Sami doesn't give a crap her son is being blackmailed making her look like an even crappier slut of a mother (if thats possible) = Fail Ej getting beaten down AGAIN and rolling around in rock bottom while no one else pays for their deeds = fail The fact that the still haven't gotten me to invest in any other characters on the show = huge FAIL If the writers planned on assassinating Nicole, it did not just start because of her whole thing with Daniel. It started when she acted like a jealous lunatic when she find out that Ej slept with Sami. If Nicole accepted Ej dimera ways before, I don't buy she is keeping the baby from him because of his last name.
It is mainly out of jealousy, the whole " I want my baby protected" excuse does not sit well to me. It seems like a cop out, to me, she needs to get over it and confess that she knows that Sami is the reason.
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I don't see this Nicole as that different than old Nicole at all. Dan's not the first person she slept with just to pass the time. It would be more interesting if they gave her a reason for what she's doing as a way to turn these choppy scenes into an actual story, though.
That's just it. This doesn't mesh for me. Nicole with a martini in one hand and using her 'assets' to get what she wants from a guy in the other hand works. A pregnant Nicole stumbling around Salem, rubbing her belly and whining and sniveling 'woe is me' while sleeping with a guy does not work. It needs to be one way or the other. I'm also not okay with her sleeping with one guy while pregnant with another guy's baby. I don't like that one bit. Agreed. To clarify, I don't think this particular act is out of character for Nicole. What was out of character were the tickle fights, the victimhood, and even the sudden drive to have a baby.
I don't see how MarDar loved ejami more than anyone else. This week every pairing in that group surrounding ejami except for safe is getting thrown a bone.
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The turn was around March when they shared wine, then the following week the contrived plumbing kiss crap and then it's been pretty normal. He comes over to see the kids, she's around for him when he's suffering through either Stefano's death or Lexie's disease....I would say that what we have seen the last month in particular is stagnation on that storyline......not a turn of the corner at all.
Oh I was thinking muh bigger picture than who Sami's sniffing around, lol. A corner did turn in March and that means its time to turn another one, but I don't know what that has to do with NBC.
Well, I was just seeing a turn in the most obvious story...they go from Friday, "he's a monster" and "you'll end up alone" to 'hey, how's this Pinot....you want to share the bottle and oh yeah...that sex...it was good" on Monday (and that is literally the way it happened....he was hating on her one minute and she couldn't stand to be next to him and then bam. they are besties)..... but when it comes to other storylines...I guess you have Dan return from wherever the hell he was and by March, Jack and Jen are talking again and then another month and they have reconciled and gotten engaged.... What else...the alemania and the egg shit was hot and heavy for two months and then BAM nothing.... We got the start of the business storylines and then NOTHING Yeah...I get what you mean. And of you look back, the same thing happened in December.
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I don't see this Nicole as that different than old Nicole at all. Dan's not the first person she slept with just to pass the time. It would be more interesting if they gave her a reason for what she's doing as a way to turn these choppy scenes into an actual story, though.
That's just it. This doesn't mesh for me. Nicole with a martini in one hand and using her 'assets' to get what she wants from a guy in the other hand works. A pregnant Nicole stumbling around Salem, rubbing her belly and whining and sniveling 'woe is me' while sleeping with a guy does not work. It needs to be one way or the other. I'm also not okay with her sleeping with one guy while pregnant with another guy's baby. I don't like that one bit.
and although her sleeping around might be somewhat in character, the fact that she would knowingly endanger her baby isn't. I don't know what they were trying to convey here and if they were quickly trying to move Nicole away from Ej, and that certainly seems like the plan here but they could have done that easily by continuing to say no and playing up the fact that Rafe was the kid's 'dad'....in front of Ej....but now with Dan shit coming out of the blue...this show is really in a horrible, horrible place. No wonder they need to bring Eric in....she virtually would have been left without any good suitors... Dan and Nicole sleeping together seems like a big plot point for me.....maybe the idea MarDar had was to write him out soon, having Ej find out what Dan and Nicole did and report him to the board for ethics violations.....and then he'd lose his job and leave town. I can't explain it any other way. Yes. Exactly!
The health of the baby is the other issue that has Nicole's sleeping with Dan looking deplorable. If we didn't just see Nicole go through the miscarriage a couple years ago and the high-risk pregnancy talks that preceded it, this wouldn't be an issue. She did have to get the 'okay' from the doctor to have sex during the first pregnancy. She and EJ had to abstain for a bit. So why wouldn't she be thinking about that? Is it really worth the risk to her for as much as she *supposedly* wants a child?
I was a big Eric and Nicole fan but that was with Jensen of course. We'll see who they cast this time around and what the chem is like. It sounded promising for Nicole atleast, but now, I think it may be the character's only hope to turn things around. :-/
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MarDar should have been fired sooner. This show is an utter disaster. :shame: If this crappy writing is NBC's doing then be prepared to say goodbye to Days sooner then 2013.
I wonder if Nicole will miscarry because she had sex with Dan... Didn't we see a somewhat recent twitpic of AZ from the set where she looked to be in maternity wear?
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I love the phrase " Nicole manipulates but I don't like the fact it's Ej she's manipulating :/ I love Nicole manipulating Daniel, but I don't like how she's doing it, -_- On the up side Nicole is on EVERY day! Even if Monday is trash, I'm still going to watch, because Nicole's on :D
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I don't see this Nicole as that different than old Nicole at all. Dan's not the first person she slept with just to pass the time. It would be more interesting if they gave her a reason for what she's doing as a way to turn these choppy scenes into an actual story, though.
That's just it. This doesn't mesh for me. Nicole with a martini in one hand and using her 'assets' to get what she wants from a guy in the other hand works. A pregnant Nicole stumbling around Salem, rubbing her belly and whining and sniveling 'woe is me' while sleeping with a guy does not work. It needs to be one way or the other. I'm also not okay with her sleeping with one guy while pregnant with another guy's baby. I don't like that one bit.
and although her sleeping around might be somewhat in character, the fact that she would knowingly endanger her baby isn't. I don't know what they were trying to convey here and if they were quickly trying to move Nicole away from Ej, and that certainly seems like the plan here but they could have done that easily by continuing to say no and playing up the fact that Rafe was the kid's 'dad'....in front of Ej....but now with Dan shit coming out of the blue...this show is really in a horrible, horrible place. No wonder they need to bring Eric in....she virtually would have been left without any good suitors... Dan and Nicole sleeping together seems like a big plot point for me.....maybe the idea MarDar had was to write him out soon, having Ej find out what Dan and Nicole did and report him to the board for ethics violations.....and then he'd lose his job and leave town. I can't explain it any other way.
Yes. Exactly! The health of the baby is the other issue that has Nicole's sleeping with Dan looking deplorable. If we didn't just see Nicole go through the miscarriage a couple years ago and the high-risk pregnancy talks that preceded it, this wouldn't be an issue. She did have to get the 'okay' from the doctor to have sex during the first pregnancy. She and EJ had to abstain for a bit. So why wouldn't she be thinking about that? Is it really worth the risk to her for as much as she *supposedly* wants a child? I was a big Eric and Nicole fan but that was with Jensen of course. We'll see who they cast this time around and what the chem is like. It sounded promising for Nicole atleast, but now, I think it may be the character's only hope to turn things around. :-/ Technically she has the okay from her doctor....
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Why do folks think Nicole having sex is going to endanger the baby? Was she warned not to have sex while pregnant?
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Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral?
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Jun 19 2012, 12:14 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Daniel returns to his office. Nicole is waiting for him on the desk. Its not her eyes, ears or nose she wants him to examine. After they do something rather unhygienic, they take a break to recall all of the bad things theyve heard about each other. They have to wonder if their feelings are real. They decide that more sex is the only way to answer that question. When they finish sharing DNAFirst off who wrote this..this sounds like a trashy harlequin novel..second wow I just thought Dick/Dicole kiss didn't know they actually have sex! Wow just wow... Sami doubts that will ever happen. Their quiet moment is interrupted by Johnny, who orders them to dance.Awww I love Johnny the little matchmaker... I really like these spoilers and can't wait till there on my screen :popcorn: Is it the tango dance? That will be magical :P
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- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 19 2012, 12:01 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 19 2012, 11:57 AM
- spartan
- Jun 19 2012, 11:52 AM
- six
- Jun 19 2012, 11:47 AM
I don't see this Nicole as that different than old Nicole at all. Dan's not the first person she slept with just to pass the time. It would be more interesting if they gave her a reason for what she's doing as a way to turn these choppy scenes into an actual story, though.
That's just it. This doesn't mesh for me. Nicole with a martini in one hand and using her 'assets' to get what she wants from a guy in the other hand works. A pregnant Nicole stumbling around Salem, rubbing her belly and whining and sniveling 'woe is me' while sleeping with a guy does not work. It needs to be one way or the other. I'm also not okay with her sleeping with one guy while pregnant with another guy's baby. I don't like that one bit.
and although her sleeping around might be somewhat in character, the fact that she would knowingly endanger her baby isn't. I don't know what they were trying to convey here and if they were quickly trying to move Nicole away from Ej, and that certainly seems like the plan here but they could have done that easily by continuing to say no and playing up the fact that Rafe was the kid's 'dad'....in front of Ej....but now with Dan shit coming out of the blue...this show is really in a horrible, horrible place. No wonder they need to bring Eric in....she virtually would have been left without any good suitors... Dan and Nicole sleeping together seems like a big plot point for me.....maybe the idea MarDar had was to write him out soon, having Ej find out what Dan and Nicole did and report him to the board for ethics violations.....and then he'd lose his job and leave town. I can't explain it any other way.
I wouldn't give them too much credit they loved EJAMI and were writing for them CAFE and Bradison. They did not care for anyone else. Those were their "IT couples". Getting what would be considered the "rootable" writing. Except they werent rootable. Bradison's angst was big bad Ian. CAFE's was Sami and Nicole and EJAMI's was Lucas and Nicole :eyeroll: MarDar have been writing EJami stuff for the last couple of months, as far as them being more civil and even friendly, but it's not like they've been writing for EJami the whole time. To label them as "loving EJami" and no other pairing is a bit much, IMO. MarDar wrote all kinds of stuff for EJole in the first half of the regime. The tango, the endless tickle fights, sex scenes, carpet picnics, etc.....etc.....etc.......
So no, MarDar wrote some EJami stuff but they also wrote a ton for EJole. They also wrote for Safe (at first) and Cafe, and a ton of Bradison yes. A bit of Lumi, although that has had a whole 'friend with benefits' vibe to me more than anything else. Anyways, I would never peg MarDar as some great EJami shipper writers. Far from it.
Edited by spartan, Jun 19 2012, 12:19 PM.
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