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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
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Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,627 Views)
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Jun 19 2012, 12:16 PM
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and although her sleeping around might be somewhat in character, the fact that she would knowingly endanger her baby isn't. I don't know what they were trying to convey here and if they were quickly trying to move Nicole away from Ej, and that certainly seems like the plan here but they could have done that easily by continuing to say no and playing up the fact that Rafe was the kid's 'dad'....in front of Ej....but now with Dan shit coming out of the blue...this show is really in a horrible, horrible place. No wonder they need to bring Eric in....she virtually would have been left without any good suitors... Dan and Nicole sleeping together seems like a big plot point for me.....maybe the idea MarDar had was to write him out soon, having Ej find out what Dan and Nicole did and report him to the board for ethics violations.....and then he'd lose his job and leave town. I can't explain it any other way.
Yes. Exactly! The health of the baby is the other issue that has Nicole's sleeping with Dan looking deplorable. If we didn't just see Nicole go through the miscarriage a couple years ago and the high-risk pregnancy talks that preceded it, this wouldn't be an issue. She did have to get the 'okay' from the doctor to have sex during the first pregnancy. She and EJ had to abstain for a bit. So why wouldn't she be thinking about that? Is it really worth the risk to her for as much as she *supposedly* wants a child? I was a big Eric and Nicole fan but that was with Jensen of course. We'll see who they cast this time around and what the chem is like. It sounded promising for Nicole atleast, but now, I think it may be the character's only hope to turn things around. :-/
Technically she has the okay from her doctor.... Stop. It's making me ill.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:16 PM
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"Their quiet moment is interrupted by Johnny, who orders them to dance."
Two grown-assed adults letting a child order them to do something is ridiculous. I would have rather Sami and EJ do it of their own free will. They are making Johnny be a spoiled brat. Hope though, this means a SORASED Johnny being a rebellious teen and a natural DiMera villian.
As for the different interpretations of the character of Nicole....I like her. She has always acted out because no one could get past her past. Don't know how many times I've heard "porn star" mentioned with her. And as history tells us, she didn't do it because she wanted to! She may be messed up, but bi-polar Sami is too. Stan....shoot EJ in head.....selfishness......Austin.....Alan.....etc. scenarios just to name a few. They are somewhat alike. If Sami can blame Marlena and John for the way she acts, then Nicole gets a pass too. I LIKE both characters, really lol. Don't really care who gets Sami's golden twat or who Nicole is using now. I just want an interesting story to tune into each day.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:16 PM
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- Jun 19 2012, 12:14 PM
Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral? Because it's the monthly crumb.....
and I get mind on Monday. :D
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Jun 19 2012, 12:16 PM
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- Jun 19 2012, 12:14 PM
Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral? Is it the same week that she did? Maybe that is how they mourn? :shrug:
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spartan
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Jun 19 2012, 12:17 PM
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- Jun 19 2012, 12:11 PM
Why do folks think Nicole having sex is going to endanger the baby? Was she warned not to have sex while pregnant? Last time around they made a point to mention that, yes.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:17 PM
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I don't see why this is a big deal. Ej sent Nicole to jail mostly because he was angry and hurt by her and I forgave him that so I'll forgive Nicole too and Ej banged a pig and a twig while married to Nicole so I'll forgive Nicole her whore-ange ommpa loompa. As long as they don't start raping or trying to kill each other I'm good. Hell I even forgave Todd punching Tea on OLTL once upon a time but couldn't bring myself to for give him telling Blair her son was dead when he wasn't mmmm :shrug: I also wouldn't want either of them to force the other to go straight. I like them bad and manipulating even if it is sometimes with each other like right now as long as I still believe they love each other (and I definitely do) I'm ok with this. I do think however that mardar where trying hard to assassinate the Nicole character so I'm glad those hacks are gone. What they don't see is they screwed up every other character in the process. Taniel was suppose to stop this crap because everyone hated it = fail Sami doesn't give a crap her son is being blackmailed making her look like an even crappier slut of a mother (if thats possible) = Fail Ej getting beaten down AGAIN and rolling around in rock bottom while no one else pays for their deeds = fail The fact that the still haven't gotten me to invest in any other characters on the show = huge FAIL
If the writers planned on assassinating Nicole, it did not just start because of her whole thing with Daniel. It started when she acted like a jealous lunatic when she find out that Ej slept with Sami. If Nicole accepted Ej dimera ways before, I don't buy she is keeping the baby from him because of his last name. It is mainly out of jealousy, the whole " I want my baby protected" excuse does not sit well to me. It seems like a cop out, to me, she needs to get over it and confess that she knows that Sami is the reason. I think the character assassination did start way before Taniel . As far as jealous lunatic umm Whhaat? You think its crazy to find out your husband has been lying to you and slept with a pig you hate and getting pissed about it. She didn't do anything nuts she just tried to cut him from her life. I find that totally understandable. I agree she is keeping this baby from him because she is angry and hurt and what does Nicole do when she is angry and hurt she lashes out and get revenge. She accepts EJ for what he is but that doesn't mean she isn't who she is and can't have any emotions because of it. EJ also accepted her for who she is so he should see this coming. My problem is I don't think this is the way it would happen if Nicole was in character. She would do anything to save her baby even work with EJ. She certainly wouldn't risk a miscarriage to sleep with Dr. dan. Which brings me to something else I want to say Taniel knows this is a high risk pregnancy and sleeps with Nicole anyway? What a great Dr. No wonder I hate him.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:18 PM
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LOL at my EJill. Love the fact that Will still wants to work for EJ, but is trying to find dirt on him to level the blackmail/power playing field.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:18 PM
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- Jun 19 2012, 12:11 PM
Why do folks think Nicole having sex is going to endanger the baby? Was she warned not to have sex while pregnant? they made a big deal out of it before
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Jun 19 2012, 12:22 PM
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Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral?
Is it the same week that she did? Maybe that is how they mourn? :shrug: I think it's the actual funeral.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:24 PM
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Okay, if Nicole has sex with the disgusting, vial, greasy, deviant woman molestor, this shows managed to do what I said it could never do, duplicate the sickness and low classness of deadbabysex and decided to go with pregnantwithanothermansbabysex. I completely feel violated. Fuck this mother effing fucking piece of shit show.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:25 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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I don't see why this is a big deal. Ej sent Nicole to jail mostly because he was angry and hurt by her and I forgave him that so I'll forgive Nicole too and Ej banged a pig and a twig while married to Nicole so I'll forgive Nicole her whore-ange ommpa loompa. As long as they don't start raping or trying to kill each other I'm good. Hell I even forgave Todd punching Tea on OLTL once upon a time but couldn't bring myself to for give him telling Blair her son was dead when he wasn't mmmm :shrug: I also wouldn't want either of them to force the other to go straight. I like them bad and manipulating even if it is sometimes with each other like right now as long as I still believe they love each other (and I definitely do) I'm ok with this. I do think however that mardar where trying hard to assassinate the Nicole character so I'm glad those hacks are gone. What they don't see is they screwed up every other character in the process. Taniel was suppose to stop this crap because everyone hated it = fail Sami doesn't give a crap her son is being blackmailed making her look like an even crappier slut of a mother (if thats possible) = Fail Ej getting beaten down AGAIN and rolling around in rock bottom while no one else pays for their deeds = fail The fact that the still haven't gotten me to invest in any other characters on the show = huge FAIL
If the writers planned on assassinating Nicole, it did not just start because of her whole thing with Daniel. It started when she acted like a jealous lunatic when she find out that Ej slept with Sami. If Nicole accepted Ej dimera ways before, I don't buy she is keeping the baby from him because of his last name. It is mainly out of jealousy, the whole " I want my baby protected" excuse does not sit well to me. It seems like a cop out, to me, she needs to get over it and confess that she knows that Sami is the reason.
I think the character assassination did start way before Taniel . As far as jealous lunatic umm Whhaat? You think its crazy to find out your husband has been lying to you and slept with a pig you hate and getting pissed about it. She didn't do anything nuts she just tried to cut him from her life. I find that totally understandable. I agree she is keeping this baby from him because she is angry and hurt and what does Nicole do when she is angry and hurt she lashes out and get revenge. She accepts EJ for what he is but that doesn't mean she isn't who she is and can't have any emotions because of it. EJ also accepted her for who she is so he should see this coming. My problem is I don't think this is the way it would happen if Nicole was in character. She would do anything to save her baby even work with EJ. She certainly wouldn't risk a miscarriage to sleep with Dr. dan. Which brings me to something else I want to say Taniel knows this is a high risk pregnancy and sleeps with Nicole anyway? What a great Dr. No wonder I hate him. I don't find it understandable,no I find it silly and immature. I think she has every right to be upset, but not a reason for her to keep the baby from him, knowing that is the same thing that Sami did to him. It is not like she is oblivious of Ej Dimera ways, she knows that Ej is a good father, the only reason why she wants to protect her baby now is because she thinks Ej is going to take it from her,now that she is lying about him not being the father.
I am not too sure about that, first she almost sleeps with Daniel to get over her feelings and if she accepts his date. She wants Daniel for company and Ej for the baby,she is written all over the place.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:27 PM
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Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral?
Is it the same week that she did? Maybe that is how they mourn? :shrug:
I think it's the actual funeral. Sounds like it's at the same place, but after the service.
Does anyone else think it's weird that they're holding the service at Chez Rouge?
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Jun 19 2012, 12:27 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral?
Is it the same week that she did? Maybe that is how they mourn? :shrug:
I think it's the actual funeral. WOW :o , I am surprised that they are actually dancing, I thought that Ej felt that the odd guy out? I don't know why they will be dancing.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:28 PM
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Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral?
Is it the same week that she did? Maybe that is how they mourn? :shrug:
I think it's the actual funeral.
Sounds like it's at the same place, but after the service. Does anyone else think it's weird that they're holding the service at Chez Rouge? I think everything about it is weird but it's making me feel better about my family taking pictures at our last funeral.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:28 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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Wait...why is there dancing at Lexie's funeral?
Is it the same week that she did? Maybe that is how they mourn? :shrug:
I think it's the actual funeral.
Sounds like it's at the same place, but after the service. Does anyone else think it's weird that they're holding the service at Chez Rouge? No you are not the only one, I find the whole funeral setting unbelievable.
I don't know why they could'nt have it at the church.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:30 PM
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Nicole manipulating EJ and sleeping with Dr. Dirty?
That's the Nicole I love and remember!
Hopefully she has ulterior motives for sleeping with Dan
Totally digging the manipulative Nicole but it seems she would be going too far in any way that would threaten the miracle baby....but hey, I'll take her bitchy side. And go figure, she's selling EJ out once again....true love never did run smooth.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:43 PM
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I don't see why this is a big deal. Ej sent Nicole to jail mostly because he was angry and hurt by her and I forgave him that so I'll forgive Nicole too and Ej banged a pig and a twig while married to Nicole so I'll forgive Nicole her whore-ange ommpa loompa. As long as they don't start raping or trying to kill each other I'm good. Hell I even forgave Todd punching Tea on OLTL once upon a time but couldn't bring myself to for give him telling Blair her son was dead when he wasn't mmmm :shrug: I also wouldn't want either of them to force the other to go straight. I like them bad and manipulating even if it is sometimes with each other like right now as long as I still believe they love each other (and I definitely do) I'm ok with this. I do think however that mardar where trying hard to assassinate the Nicole character so I'm glad those hacks are gone. What they don't see is they screwed up every other character in the process. Taniel was suppose to stop this crap because everyone hated it = fail Sami doesn't give a crap her son is being blackmailed making her look like an even crappier slut of a mother (if thats possible) = Fail Ej getting beaten down AGAIN and rolling around in rock bottom while no one else pays for their deeds = fail The fact that the still haven't gotten me to invest in any other characters on the show = huge FAIL
If the writers planned on assassinating Nicole, it did not just start because of her whole thing with Daniel. It started when she acted like a jealous lunatic when she find out that Ej slept with Sami. If Nicole accepted Ej dimera ways before, I don't buy she is keeping the baby from him because of his last name. It is mainly out of jealousy, the whole " I want my baby protected" excuse does not sit well to me. It seems like a cop out, to me, she needs to get over it and confess that she knows that Sami is the reason.
I think the character assassination did start way before Taniel . As far as jealous lunatic umm Whhaat? You think its crazy to find out your husband has been lying to you and slept with a pig you hate and getting pissed about it. She didn't do anything nuts she just tried to cut him from her life. I find that totally understandable. I agree she is keeping this baby from him because she is angry and hurt and what does Nicole do when she is angry and hurt she lashes out and get revenge. She accepts EJ for what he is but that doesn't mean she isn't who she is and can't have any emotions because of it. EJ also accepted her for who she is so he should see this coming. My problem is I don't think this is the way it would happen if Nicole was in character. She would do anything to save her baby even work with EJ. She certainly wouldn't risk a miscarriage to sleep with Dr. dan. Which brings me to something else I want to say Taniel knows this is a high risk pregnancy and sleeps with Nicole anyway? What a great Dr. No wonder I hate him.
I don't find it understandable,no I find it silly and immature. I think she has every right to be upset, but not a reason for her to keep the baby from him, knowing that is the same thing that Sami did to him. It is not like she is oblivious of Ej Dimera ways, she knows that Ej is a good father, the only reason why she wants to protect her baby now is because she thinks Ej is going to take it from her,now that she is lying about him not being the father. I am not too sure about that, first she almost sleeps with Daniel to get over her feelings and if she accepts his date. She wants Daniel for company and Ej for the baby,she is written all over the place. So its OK for sami to do since judging from your avi you like ejami but when Nicole does it its horrible I don't get :shrug: Anyway in soaps people go to extrems so she wants him out of her life because she is angry hence keeping the baby from him BUT as I said before this is not in character for Nicole IMO because she would do anything for her baby even if it made her unhappy or uncomfortable and I think she would want it to have the Dimera power and money. This is just more crappy writing from Mardar.
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Jun 19 2012, 12:45 PM
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I think it's the actual funeral.
Sounds like it's at the same place, but after the service. Does anyone else think it's weird that they're holding the service at Chez Rouge?
No you are not the only one, I find the whole funeral setting unbelievable. I don't know why they could'nt have it at the church. Seriously...I mean, if you're going to pull out the Chez Rouge set why not the church? Unless it is written that Lexie wanted her service to be a happy event/party? But I don't have that much faith in the writing. More likely is they wanted the CR set for Nicole and Dan's upcoming date. *puke*
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I think it's the actual funeral.
Sounds like it's at the same place, but after the service. Does anyone else think it's weird that they're holding the service at Chez Rouge?
I think everything about it is weird but it's making me feel better about my family taking pictures at our last funeral. Yeah, I share your feelings on that subject and don't get why that's even a thing. :shrug:
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- Jun 19 2012, 12:11 PM
Why do folks think Nicole having sex is going to endanger the baby? Was she warned not to have sex while pregnant? Because sex has a tendency to shake things loose (semen has oxytocin which is the hormone that induces labor). Nicole not only has a history of miscarriage (I think the show retconned it to where her baby was stillborn which increases the risk for the next pregnancy) but her insides are mangled too. Actually, I'm pretty sure a good doctor would put her on bed rest for the remainder of her pregnancy.
Nicole's mantra of "the only thing I want in life is to be a mother" is full of crap. I'm not sure what Dan's story is, I guess he has no self control. I really hope that Nicole miscarries after sex because it might be interesting to see Dan's unethical behavior as a physician come to a head.
I'm really hoping that Ej finds out that Nicole sleeps with Dan so that there is no question in his mind that this woman is beneath him.
eta: oops not oxytocin but it has prostaglandins
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