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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,624 Views)
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Jun 19 2012, 03:46 PM
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Jun 19 2012, 06:46 AM
oh thats just disturbing, Looks like Days is fast going into the dumper. I guess you'd call me anti Ej and Will bc I don't like the fact that a grown man is playing around with a child, the child of his worst enemy in fact. Lucas is his father, not Ej.
Will's not a child, he's an adult. He's not a little baby that needs mommy and daddy to hold his hand. He has dealt with his sexuality, blackmails people, he shoots and tries to shoot people. he lives on his own with his own job. Lucas has barely nothing to do with Will and Will holds his own as an adult character without him.

Lexie's funeral will be heartbreaking to watch. :(

Dan and Nicole have sex? Nicole is also working for the cops and giving evidence to them, I'm surprised at both.
will may not be chlid but on everything we saw screen will should not confidence to tell ej stuff like he will on today show where he was when stefano died he look like ej little bitch with stuff like that


and show dismiss about lucas being very on will life just add pile to rest of the shit
Why shouldn't he have the confidence to tell EJ? EJ's his boss, gave him a job, home, car, treated him like an adult. The Will
before EJ gave him a job was a disaster walking.

It's not Will's fault or EJ's that Lucas has nothing to do with Will. Will himself pointed out to Lucas when he returned
that EJ was there for him when Lucas wasn't.
even we forget what ej did to people will love EJ had manhandling Will more the once last scenes of will with ej before the scenes with lucas and ej and saying ej was there for him tell ej was there for that the last time we saw ej manhandling Will and he was working for him less than two months

why will should confidence on ej of how ej treat him sometimes and its not like any one from will family broke and will should be greatfull for ej giving him money

will was barley SOARSing and most of the time will and lucas were close for years that why so many fans hate the bs dismiss lucas in will life for sami the man of the week

i may not like rafe but it far more believe if will told that rafe was being there for him from ej period
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will may not be chlid but on everything we saw screen will should not confidence to tell ej stuff like he will on today show where he was when stefano died he look like ej little bitch with stuff like that


and show dismiss about lucas being very on will life just add pile to rest of the shit
Why shouldn't he have the confidence to tell EJ? EJ's his boss, gave him a job, home, car, treated him like an adult. The Will
before EJ gave him a job was a disaster walking.

It's not Will's fault or EJ's that Lucas has nothing to do with Will. Will himself pointed out to Lucas when he returned
that EJ was there for him when Lucas wasn't.
Will wasn't a disaster walking until Ej screwed up his life, made his mother divorce his father whom she loved and he blackmailed her into a marriage to save the Dimeras from killing off their family. Will's impulsive actions were the direct result of what Ej did to his family. If you can go back to the ONE reason why Will should not be trusting of Ej it's right there.....

The writing is pushing an agenda to showcase Ej and Will has having this fatherly bond that does NOT exist, while downplaying any bond that Will had/has with Lucas. They were always very close and sure EM has said that he and BD are intentionally playing it colder since Will blames Lucas moving to HK for 2 years as part of it. But notice that there has been virtually no mention by Will of how much he appreciates what his dad did for him...sure a basic 2 word "Thank you" and that was it...while Will was shown torn up about his betrayal of EJ. If there is ONE thing that Will should realize is that his father went to JAIL to save him from it, got beaten up and almost died and came back to the most horrible of circumstances. Lucas was willing to sacrifice not seeing his daughter for a decade and being away from him for a decade in order for Will to be kept from prison. He lost the love of his life, and a chance at a happy family, as a result of all the decisions that were made to keep Will from going to prison....so to showcase this contrived BS relationship with Ej over what appreciation he should have for his own father is plain stupid, IMHO
We're really going back like 5 years? Sorry but no, I'm talking now while Will's an ADULT struggling with college and his sexuality. (Not to mention Will could have told his father thank you back then when this was actually a plot.) It's not now, so to say Will never in all these years said thank you we don't know.

Will over the past year at least he's been dealing with the fact he was gay and not able to admit that. Dealing with his mother cheating. He was a disaster running around calling his mother a whore all over town, getting drunk, blackmailing EJ so he can run away. Who knows where Will would be if EJ hadn't turned the tables on him. Now look at him. He's not that troubled unable to deal with being gay person anymore. He came out to his parents, he's coming out to everyone now. He's going to school. The fatherly bond does exist to me based on what's on my tv screen, it exists based on the actors themselves, it exists based on the praise and media loving them. Things don't just don't exist because people don't want them too, they built EJ and Will up and they're a mentor/mentee relationship.
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The part about Nicole sexing up Dan (or vice versa) that I don't like is that she has a history of difficult pregnancies, so I'm pretty sure she shouldn't be having sex with anyone unless she is somehow in the clear as far as carrying the baby to term.
Edited by Keith, Jun 19 2012, 04:10 PM.
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Why shouldn't he have the confidence to tell EJ? EJ's his boss, gave him a job, home, car, treated him like an adult. The Will
before EJ gave him a job was a disaster walking.

It's not Will's fault or EJ's that Lucas has nothing to do with Will. Will himself pointed out to Lucas when he returned
that EJ was there for him when Lucas wasn't.
Will wasn't a disaster walking until Ej screwed up his life, made his mother divorce his father whom she loved and he blackmailed her into a marriage to save the Dimeras from killing off their family. Will's impulsive actions were the direct result of what Ej did to his family. If you can go back to the ONE reason why Will should not be trusting of Ej it's right there.....

The writing is pushing an agenda to showcase Ej and Will has having this fatherly bond that does NOT exist, while downplaying any bond that Will had/has with Lucas. They were always very close and sure EM has said that he and BD are intentionally playing it colder since Will blames Lucas moving to HK for 2 years as part of it. But notice that there has been virtually no mention by Will of how much he appreciates what his dad did for him...sure a basic 2 word "Thank you" and that was it...while Will was shown torn up about his betrayal of EJ. If there is ONE thing that Will should realize is that his father went to JAIL to save him from it, got beaten up and almost died and came back to the most horrible of circumstances. Lucas was willing to sacrifice not seeing his daughter for a decade and being away from him for a decade in order for Will to be kept from prison. He lost the love of his life, and a chance at a happy family, as a result of all the decisions that were made to keep Will from going to prison....so to showcase this contrived BS relationship with Ej over what appreciation he should have for his own father is plain stupid, IMHO
We're really going back like 5 years? Sorry but no, I'm talking now while Will's an ADULT struggling with college and his sexuality. (Not to mention Will could have told his father thank you back then when this was actually a plot.) It's not now, so to say Will never in all these years said thank you we don't know.

Will over the past year at least he's been dealing with the fact he was gay and not able to admit that. Dealing with his mother cheating. He was a disaster running around calling his mother a whore all over town, getting drunk, blackmailing EJ so he can run away. Who knows where Will would be if EJ hadn't turned the tables on him. Now look at him. He's not that troubled unable to deal with being gay person anymore. He came out to his parents, he's coming out to everyone now. He's going to school. The fatherly bond does exist to me based on what's on my tv screen, it exists based on the actors themselves, it exists based on the praise and media loving them. Things don't just don't exist because people don't want them too, they built EJ and Will up and they're a mentor/mentee relationship.
Will seems like a bigger mess to me now. He doesnt seem to hav any direction, he'a involved in blackmail and murder investigations, and he seems to be losing the conscience he once had. I'm not sure why EJ keeping him in Salem is some saving grace. He wasnt a twelve year old running away to prostitute himself. He's college-aged. That's the right time to leave, lol.
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.
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Jun 19 2012, 06:46 AM
oh thats just disturbing, Looks like Days is fast going into the dumper. I guess you'd call me anti Ej and Will bc I don't like the fact that a grown man is playing around with a child, the child of his worst enemy in fact. Lucas is his father, not Ej.
Will's not a child, he's an adult. He's not a little baby that needs mommy and daddy to hold his hand. He has dealt with his sexuality, blackmails people, he shoots and tries to shoot people. he lives on his own with his own job. Lucas has barely nothing to do with Will and Will holds his own as an adult character without him.

Lexie's funeral will be heartbreaking to watch. :(

Dan and Nicole have sex? Nicole is also working for the cops and giving evidence to them, I'm surprised at both.
will may not be chlid but on everything we saw screen will should not confidence to tell ej stuff like he will on today show where he was when stefano died he look like ej little bitch with stuff like that


and show dismiss about lucas being very on will life just add pile to rest of the shit
Why shouldn't he have the confidence to tell EJ? EJ's his boss, gave him a job, home, car, treated him like an adult. The Will
before EJ gave him a job was a disaster walking.

It's not Will's fault or EJ's that Lucas has nothing to do with Will. Will himself pointed out to Lucas when he returned
that EJ was there for him when Lucas wasn't.
Why WOULD will have confidence in EJ?? EJ gave him a car, apartment, job -- really?? really?? Seems to me those were conditional gifts that EJ quickly took away the second he felt "betrayed". EJ is God after all, right? He is celebrated on the show enough to make me think so. So EJ giveth and he can taketh away. Why would Will trust someone who has harmed his family? Why would Will trust someone who knowingly allowed his father to go to jail for a crime EJ knew he didn't commit? Why would Will trust someone who was at least partially to blame for the breakup, not only of Lumi, but more recently of the happy home Will had with Rafe and his siblings (unless Will entirely blames Sami for that, which he may). What earthly reason does Will have to trust EJ?

The fact that Will was more broken up over "hurting" or "betraying" EJ than he was thankful for the sacrifice Lucas made is utter gar-BAHGE, shit writing. Completely unfathomable. I absolutely agree with LL that the show is pretty deliberately trying to establish a "fatherly" bond between EJ and Will that should not exist. That fact that it's been perpetrated for so long is disgusting. Will being intoxicated by the power of working for a DiMera, lured in by the perks, getting a kick of sticking it to his mother, feeling conflicted over these new-found feelings of power-hungriness and greed when it means working for the man who has caused so much harm to his family -- I can understand THOSE feelings. But fatherly trust for EJ?? I can't get to the bathroom quickly enough to vomit.

Also, EJ does not treat Will like an adult. It's complicated, b/c some might say that the responsibilities with which he has entrusted Will are grown-up, or the fact that he wants to train him in the darker arts is treating him like a grown-up, etc. But in reality EJ is bullying and blackmailing Will. That is not treating him like a grown-up. That is treating him like a boy puppet. I only pray that Will wises up quickly and starts doing grown-up things like internalizing these DiMera lessons and turning the tables on EJ. Or that he has been hustling EJ this whole time with his effusive gratitude and repentance.

I would love to see Lucas more forceful in the way he intervenes to help or guide Will. Hard to do when EJ is in every scene and Will, for some unspeakable reason, seeks his company. I call foul on the writing and want this to change immediately.

And Will does not hold his own as an adult character without Lucas. He acts like a shit around Sonny. He screams the same tired immature crap at this mother. He seems pretty clingy with Marlena, to be honest. And he cowers with EJ except for a few sort-of threats. One of the best spoilers this week is that Will tries to find dirt on EJ. If Will has matured and developed more of an edge b/c of his association with EJ, IN ORDER TO GO AGAINST EJ....that I would accept.
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.
Meng said that what Marlene said wasn't true.

I think their control of the 'new' writers might look different. They brought these writers in for a reason which probably means these writers are on the same page as NBC.

The truth of the matter is that no one knows what to expect because no one from the show has said anything. There's no guarantee at all who will be in for a rude awakening. However, as I keep saying, this..
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a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories
is exactly what has happened every three months wit MarDar's stories since October. Since they haven't switched EPs, I don't expect that to change.


Meanwhile, PR didn't appear to have a problem with the writers until the new ones came along. So yeah, I think there's an obvious connection. PR seemed to like MarDar. And yes, I also think the new writers are partially to blame for MA being gone.
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This show is so fucking disgusting. It's worse than a bad fanfiction!
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I am not a Daniel hater, but him sleeping with Nicole right now is messed up. Right now she is his emotionally fucked up PREGNANT patient. This is bad for both characters.
It is, and that is why I can't comprehend why MarDar would go there with this.....after they admitted that they gave the character a rest because they didn't know what to do with him because of his behavior, specifically with sexing up his patients. What do they do? They have him sex up his pregnant patient.
my guess is they were trying to put Nicole on an even playing field with sami so they could make you Think Ejami was at least plausable. Yep, they had to try to ruin nicole and Ejole to even try their stupid story. Nicole had to hide the baby from ej, check, have her sleeping with daniel, check, turn against Ej, check. Maybe next on MarDar's list was to have nicole shoot Ej in the head and then rape him while lying helpless. That just might have made Nicole worst than Sami. But as it lies, Nicole will always be a better .woman than the Beast from down under
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This show is so fucking disgusting. It's worse than a bad fanfiction!
Whats airing now is nothing but bad fanfiction. All a bunch of crap we were just supposed to swollow? Don't think so.That needs to be put out to pasture.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

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I think the character assassination did start way before Taniel . As far as jealous lunatic umm Whhaat? You think its crazy to find out your husband has been lying to you and slept with a pig you hate and getting pissed about it. She didn't do anything nuts she just tried to cut him from her life. I find that totally understandable. I agree she is keeping this baby from him because she is angry and hurt and what does Nicole do when she is angry and hurt she lashes out and get revenge. She accepts EJ for what he is but that doesn't mean she isn't who she is and can't have any emotions because of it. EJ also accepted her for who she is so he should see this coming. My problem is I don't think this is the way it would happen if Nicole was in character. She would do anything to save her baby even work with EJ. She certainly wouldn't risk a miscarriage to sleep with Dr. dan. Which brings me to something else I want to say Taniel knows this is a high risk pregnancy and sleeps with Nicole anyway? What a great Dr. No wonder I hate him.
I don't find it understandable,no I find it silly and immature. I think she has every right to be upset, but not a reason for her to keep the baby from him, knowing that is the same thing that Sami did to him. It is not like she is oblivious of Ej Dimera ways, she knows that Ej is a good father, the only reason why she wants to protect her baby now is because she thinks Ej is going to take it from her,now that she is lying about him not being the father.

I am not too sure about that, first she almost sleeps with Daniel to get over her feelings and if she accepts his date. She wants Daniel for company and Ej for the baby,she is written all over the place.
So its OK for sami to do since judging from your avi you like ejami but when Nicole does it its horrible I don't get :shrug: Anyway in soaps people go to extrems so she wants him out of her life because she is angry hence keeping the baby from him BUT as I said before this is not in character for Nicole IMO because she would do anything for her baby even if it made her unhappy or uncomfortable and I think she would want it to have the Dimera power and money. This is just more crappy writing from Mardar.
If you are familiar with my posts, you will see that I do not excuse Sami for ANYTHING she has done. I called her every name in the book, I am not comparing and contrast on who is worst.

Nicole is not the victim though because " she is protecting her baby"

I don't see why they need to bring up Sami when we are discussing Nicole.
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I can understand wanting some closure in the Lucas/Will story, but the window for Will to fall at Lucas' feet and thank him over and over for taking the rap has closed. That's what happens when a story is retconned like that.
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.

and how exactly do we know 'what stories MarDar wanted to tell?" was it Ejole reuniting and having a baby or was it Ejami getting closer or was it Lumi getting back together? Or maybe it was Cafe? Or Dicole? OR Racole? There is so much WTFery in all of the writing that until we hear from someone or we wait till September to figure it out, no one can say anything with certainty.

having someone come in and take control of what use to be PR's role doesn't surprise me because it happens as the former leads get older. It's a staple on a soap....look at AS taking over Dee's role...look at Ej taking over Stefano's role...it happens....but what happened to PR seems to be directly related to Tomlin being back in some capacity...and MarDar being gone.
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.
Meng said that what Marlene said wasn't true.

When did he say this? I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's best for NBC to deny all connections to what's currently airing so that MarDar will take the heat if it bombs in the ratings.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Lucas and Will relationship is the only thing that seems interesting about this show, I like their dynamic.
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.
Meng said that what Marlene said wasn't true.

When did he say this? I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's best for NBC to deny all connections to what's currently airing so that MarDar will take the heat if it bombs in the ratings.
He word it exactly like that but he said he couldnt respond because he wanted to preserve a relationship wih MarDar. Which to me sounds like it backs up heyjudes claim that their stories were crap. Regardless, I don't think what we're serif wasn't from them. If this is what NBC wanted, they wouldn't have needed to fire MarDar.
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I can understand wanting some closure in the Lucas/Will story, but the window for Will to fall at Lucas' feet and thank him over and over for taking the rap has closed. That's what happens when a story is retconned like that.
and I don't even want him falling at LUcas' feet...I just would appreciate the writers not insulting my intelligence and have Will (a kid who has ALWAYS been close to his father) not try to downplay the importance of that relationship with some contrived fly by night BS relationship that came out of the blue with EJ.
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.
Meng said that what Marlene said wasn't true.

I think their control of the 'new' writers might look different. They brought these writers in for a reason which probably means these writers are on the same page as NBC.

The truth of the matter is that no one knows what to expect because no one from the show has said anything. There's no guarantee at all who will be in for a rude awakening. However, as I keep saying, this..
Quote:
 
a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories
is exactly what has happened every three months wit MarDar's stories since October. Since they haven't switched EPs, I don't expect that to change.


Meanwhile, PR didn't appear to have a problem with the writers until the new ones came along. So yeah, I think there's an obvious connection. PR seemed to like MarDar. And yes, I also think the new writers are partially to blame for MA being gone.
Then why isn't PR staying? If it was just the writers that was his problem, there's new writers. They can offer him stories and he can stay right?

Wrong. PR's leaving because he got asked for another pay cut and then he's been replaced in the shows hierarchy. His own words.
Old writers or new writers isn't going to change that. Where was Bo's character with GT before that writing team got fired? Rafe for example was on a lot with old writers and new writers.

MA was fired and that had nothing to do with MarDar. MarDar are the ones that brought him, CC, etc.. back. They all got cut under NBC and the new writers.

There's guarantee for rude awakenings for people who think that new writers will suddenly make a snap in fingers and make what they want suddenly happen. People thought that with MarDar and well how did that work out? The stories will continue, they'll evolve and change but things that were set in motion like EJ and Will's relationship isn't suddenly going to disappear into thin air. Lexie's not going to magically come back to life.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

LuvingLumi
Jun 19 2012, 03:56 PM
brazen
Jun 19 2012, 03:46 PM
Partnersincrime
Jun 19 2012, 11:04 AM
brazen
Jun 19 2012, 10:39 AM

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will may not be chlid but on everything we saw screen will should not confidence to tell ej stuff like he will on today show where he was when stefano died he look like ej little bitch with stuff like that


and show dismiss about lucas being very on will life just add pile to rest of the shit
Why shouldn't he have the confidence to tell EJ? EJ's his boss, gave him a job, home, car, treated him like an adult. The Will
before EJ gave him a job was a disaster walking.

It's not Will's fault or EJ's that Lucas has nothing to do with Will. Will himself pointed out to Lucas when he returned
that EJ was there for him when Lucas wasn't.
Will wasn't a disaster walking until Ej screwed up his life, made his mother divorce his father whom she loved and he blackmailed her into a marriage to save the Dimeras from killing off their family. Will's impulsive actions were the direct result of what Ej did to his family. If you can go back to the ONE reason why Will should not be trusting of Ej it's right there.....

The writing is pushing an agenda to showcase Ej and Will as having this fatherly bond that does NOT exist, while downplaying any bond that Will had/has with Lucas. They were always very close and sure CM has said that he and BD are intentionally playing it colder since Will blames Lucas moving to HK for 2 years as part of it. But notice that there has been virtually no mention by Will of how much he appreciates what his dad did for him...sure a basic 2 word "Thank you" and that was it...while Will was shown torn up about his betrayal of EJ. If there is ONE thing that Will should realize is that his father went to JAIL to save him from it, got beaten up and almost died and came back to the most horrible of circumstances. Lucas was willing to sacrifice not seeing his daughter for a decade and being away from him for a decade in order for Will to be kept from prison. He lost the love of his life, and a chance at a happy family, as a result of all the decisions that were made to keep Will from going to prison....so to showcase this contrived BS relationship with Ej over what appreciation he should have for his own father is plain stupid, IMHO
Despite what the actors say or people say I don't get no fatherly vibe between Ej and Will. I happen to enjoy Lucas scenes with Will but that does not mean that I don't like Ej and Will. Love their dynamic together, they are not anymore contrived then any other' bond on the show. I think that Chandler works well with James, they play off each other well. The manipulating, the working together is not written out of character for Will either, finally he is interesting.
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