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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
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Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,656 Views)
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Kriss4
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Jun 14 2012, 06:50 PM
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- Jun 14 2012, 06:21 PM
I'm torn and I admit it.
I love Kayla. I love Kayla and Steve. They're MY couple.
But I KNOW Stephen's employed elsewhere and he's happy, and doesn't want to return. I also know Mary Beth loves to work and she must be tired of Kayla sitting in the pub serving beer and being everyone's sounding board for six straight months. She's deserving of a story.
The ISA thing makes perfect sense as a conflict for them. But it would be a far better story if Steve was here to help tell it, and I haven't figured out how I feel about Kayla and Abe as a potential couple yet.
Still, I know Kayla has to move forward.
It's not fair to expect Mary Beth to twiddle her thumbs because her character's fate has to hinge on a character who's no longer around, and whose portrayer is on another show getting story of his own.
So, I'll deal. And who knows...maybe I'll be happily surprised about Kayla and Abe. It won't be the same, but maybe it'll be okay.
If they'd take their TIME to tell the story.
I get this point of view about her wanting to work, but why not just give her a story and not a love interest right now. People who lose or are separated from the love of their lives sometimes go years being alone and maybe watching kayla go through her life without Steve and how hard that is on her could be a good story. Maybe she could suffer from major depression from it and Abe be tehre only as her friend. I just think so far the reason for them being apart is too bogus for these two. This show really needs to stop being so generic and really delve deep into the lives of these people. But we don't know that's not what's going to happen.
We don't know anything except that Steve joined the ISA and Kayla can't deal. She'll be angry and upset and hurt by his decision. I understand that because working with the ISA before ended up resulting in his disappearance. Years ago, he never would have been on that boat in the first place if he hadn't been working for the ISA...and Lawrence (and I guess later Stefano, since that's the story we got) took advantage after the explosion and took Steve.
I like the ISA angle, cuz it fits. But I do wish Steve was around so we could see his POV too.
Anyway, if Kayla and Abe moves slowly, maybe it'll be okay for me. It'll never be what Steve and Kayla are, but it can be an acceptable relationship.
But I do hope someday Steve comes back and gets her because I'd want that happy ending for them.
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Jun 14 2012, 06:51 PM
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Awe, I need baby bonding. This pregnancy was so highjacked by MarDar and EJ deserves to get some baby bonding time with his baby. I hope it lasts more that 5 minutes.
how was the pregnancy hijacked by mardar when they wrote it in the first place? I am not a fan of them, but they were certainly better than Higley, and I don't get how they are still being blamed for shit when we've been told of massive rewrites and them not getting to tell their story. Damn everyone needs a scapegoat. Days' problems are WAY beyond anything that Mardar did. I'm just gonna call it now.....news will come to light that clears MarDar of any wrongdoing in the Trayvon Martin shooting Well, it was hijacked in my opinioin because they tore Ejole apart just to have Nicole find out she's having his baby and we didn't get to see her come home and say, Honey, we're pregnant. EJ hasn't been allowed to be at her doctor's appointments. There has been no baby bonding accept for whatever this spoiler is. They've thrown EJ at Sami out of nowhere and they've thrown Nicole at Rafe and Dan out of nowhere and they have kept Ejole apart during the first few months of her pregnancy. They gave us an Ejole baby and then took away all that goes with it. That is how I meant they hijacked it. It started back in early March and it's continued on. This is just my feelings on the matter. If you don't agree, that's okay too. I just hope they make it up to us who have wanted Nicole to have a baby forever and for EJ to be there when one of his children is born and have him deliver the baby.
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Jun 14 2012, 06:55 PM
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- Jun 14 2012, 05:48 PM
Haven't Rafe and Carrie already been there, done that? I'm glad that Kayla is finally getting something to do than taking orders at the pub. I'm not gonna jump the gun too much on the Ejole spoiler. I'm happy about the bonding, but I don't know yet if EJ will know or not. I hope he does, but he may just be there when the baby kicks and they share a moment. I just hope the direction for Nicole continues to change. I've already noticed some positive turn. She better not be feeling it kick - they still have her with a flat tummy!!She has to be 3 - 4 months by now~
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Jun 14 2012, 06:56 PM
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Very happy about the Kayla spoilers. Hope they end up going somewhere. She needs to be seen more.
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Jun 14 2012, 06:57 PM
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Yay, EJ and Nicole bond over their unborn child. Finally!!! I have been waiting so long for this. I hope they do them justice with more than a slit second scene.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:00 PM
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Awe, I need baby bonding. This pregnancy was so highjacked by MarDar and EJ deserves to get some baby bonding time with his baby. I hope it lasts more that 5 minutes.
how was the pregnancy hijacked by mardar when they wrote it in the first place? I am not a fan of them, but they were certainly better than Higley, and I don't get how they are still being blamed for shit when we've been told of massive rewrites and them not getting to tell their story. Damn everyone needs a scapegoat. Days' problems are WAY beyond anything that Mardar did. I'm just gonna call it now.....news will come to light that clears MarDar of any wrongdoing in the Trayvon Martin shooting
Well, it was hijacked in my opinioin because they tore Ejole apart just to have Nicole find out she's having his baby and we didn't get to see her come home and say, Honey, we're pregnant. EJ hasn't been allowed to be at her doctor's appointments. There has been no baby bonding accept for whatever this spoiler is. They've thrown EJ at Sami out of nowhere and they've thrown Nicole at Rafe and Dan out of nowhere and they have kept Ejole apart during the first few months of her pregnancy. They gave us an Ejole baby and then took away all that goes with it. That is how I meant they hijacked it. It started back in early March and it's continued on. This is just my feelings on the matter. If you don't agree, that's okay too. I just hope they make it up to us who have wanted Nicole to have a baby forever and for EJ to be there when one of his children is born and have him deliver the baby. I totally respect ur opinion and see that you are very passionate about ejole. I just wanna make it clear that I am not, nor ever have been a "shipper" for any couple. I just like compelling storytelling - which has been lacking big time. I was just commenting on your hijack statement. To hijack something suggests to me that it was taken out of someone else's hands, so to say that MarDar did that is just wrong. Perhaps they wrote it wrong from the beginning, but if the story was every hijacked, it was not by MarDar, it was by whoever re-wrote anything about it.
I am just kind of tired of hearing MarDar (who again, I was no fan of, but....)being blamed for everything.....they are the Obama of Days. They are not perfect by any means, had a HUGE mess to clean up, were sidelined on most of their efforts at reform by others in power and continue to be blamed for every rainy day that ruins someone's bbq.....that is absurd to me
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Jun 14 2012, 07:06 PM
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As for this idea that only these writers destory supercouples. RoJohn had numerous romances after Marlena "died" (and after she came back) and some were pretty popular. Bo moved on with Carly when Hope "died" and, for a certain part of the audience, that was popular. Both of those were because the actresses decided to leave the show and, in KA's case, because PR wanted to stay. This is not a recent problem Days has faced. It's simply soap opera reality. In some cases, they've dealt with it well, in others not so much. This!
I love Steve and Kayla - they are my all-time faorite Days couple, but I am totally cool with another pairing for either one of them when the other is off-screen so long as it is written well and Steve and Kayla's history is respected.
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Kriss4
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Jun 14 2012, 07:06 PM
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I'm happy Kayla's in spoilers. I want to see her more. I'm just hoping that if Kayla and Abe are around the corner that it's a long, long corner.
Course, it could change easily enough. Tomlin's there now and he's not MarDar. He showed a willingness to use Kayla before, which I liked. But he was also the same fella who nixed romantic scenes for the over 40 folks.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:07 PM
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Awe, I need baby bonding. This pregnancy was so highjacked by MarDar and EJ deserves to get some baby bonding time with his baby. I hope it lasts more that 5 minutes.
how was the pregnancy hijacked by mardar when they wrote it in the first place? I am not a fan of them, but they were certainly better than Higley, and I don't get how they are still being blamed for shit when we've been told of massive rewrites and them not getting to tell their story. Damn everyone needs a scapegoat. Days' problems are WAY beyond anything that Mardar did. I'm just gonna call it now.....news will come to light that clears MarDar of any wrongdoing in the Trayvon Martin shooting
Well, it was hijacked in my opinioin because they tore Ejole apart just to have Nicole find out she's having his baby and we didn't get to see her come home and say, Honey, we're pregnant. EJ hasn't been allowed to be at her doctor's appointments. There has been no baby bonding accept for whatever this spoiler is. They've thrown EJ at Sami out of nowhere and they've thrown Nicole at Rafe and Dan out of nowhere and they have kept Ejole apart during the first few months of her pregnancy. They gave us an Ejole baby and then took away all that goes with it. That is how I meant they hijacked it. It started back in early March and it's continued on. This is just my feelings on the matter. If you don't agree, that's okay too. I just hope they make it up to us who have wanted Nicole to have a baby forever and for EJ to be there when one of his children is born and have him deliver the baby.
I totally respect ur opinion and see that you are very passionate about ejole. I just wanna make it clear that I am not, nor ever have been a "shipper" for any couple. I just like compelling storytelling - which has been lacking big time. I was just commenting on your hijack statement. To hijack something suggests to me that it was taken out of someone else's hands, so to say that MarDar did that is just wrong. Perhaps they wrote it wrong from the beginning, but if the story was every hijacked, it was not by MarDar, it was by whoever re-wrote anything about it. I am just kind of tired of hearing MarDar (who again, I was no fan of, but....)being blamed for everything.....they are the Obama of Days. They are not perfect by any means, had a HUGE mess to clean up, were sidelined on most of their efforts at reform by others in power and continue to be blamed for every rainy day that ruins someone's bbq.....that is absurd to me I understand what you're saying, no problem, but I figured there are edits going on or at least I know there's been stuff cut, but I'm still under the impression that TomSell are going off of MarDar's scripts and their own material doesn't start until mid August, at least that's the last i've read about it. But it's no big deal, whoever wrote it, Nicole has been pretty much non-existent anyway so I see no rewrites for her at least in the last few months since Ejole broke up. They just stopped using her for the most part. Tthey have took one of the things I've been looking forward to the most, Nicole's pregnancy, and practically screwed it up. I'm just glad Nicole is only a few months along and maybe they can rectify this.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:08 PM
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I like Kayla a lot, but I'm sorry she's on the show right now if the plan is to destroy Steve/Kayla for Kabe.
I don't see destruction. I see major conflict. But it's conflict that comes from within them and has the potential to be resolved somewhere down the line. I have no problem believing that Steve would join the ISA and believe that Kayla would just understand and accept it. And I have no problem believing that Kayla, after losing him to the ISA once, might not be so understanding this time around. And given how stubborn they both are, I can definitely see both of them refusing to give in. I know there are arguments against - Steve wouldn't leave Joe, Kayla never gives up on Steve. The Joe thing is admittedly harder to address, but if Kayla is going to be in town, Steve is going to be away from Joe even if he and Kayla are "together." So, I just chack that one up to realities of SN being unavailable. In terms of Kayla never giving up on Steve, I don't think that's always been a good thing. There is a fine line between determined and doormat and from 2006-2008, Kayla spent a lot of time on the wrong side of that line. So, I don't mind that she's standing up and saying she can't accept this. Nothing the writers can do can destoy Steve and Kayla for me. Even if they aren't together, I know they will always love each other. I can live with that. Well, Esp, I don't see Steve and Kayla breaking up this way or, as you point out, Steve leaving the kid, but I suppose one can spin it into making sense, and you make some good arguments. At any rate, unlike MA in the past and now, SN is unavailable, so I can be more willing to roll with it and spin it to believe it. Still, personally, I'd rather Kayla not be around to split Steve/Kayla for what will almost certainly be a sub par pairing in a sideline story. I know you're probably of a different mind on that score. But one can hope that they won't stick it to Steve/Kayla as they have to JnJ by trying to sell that Kayla's great love for newguy possibly superseding what she felt for Steve is why she and Steve can't be together.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:09 PM
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Well, it was hijacked in my opinioin because they tore Ejole apart just to have Nicole find out she's having his baby and we didn't get to see her come home and say, Honey, we're pregnant. EJ hasn't been allowed to be at her doctor's appointments. There has been no baby bonding accept for whatever this spoiler is. They've thrown EJ at Sami out of nowhere and they've thrown Nicole at Rafe and Dan out of nowhere and they have kept Ejole apart during the first few months of her pregnancy. They gave us an Ejole baby and then took away all that goes with it. That is how I meant they hijacked it. It started back in early March and it's continued on. This is just my feelings on the matter. If you don't agree, that's okay too. I just hope they make it up to us who have wanted Nicole to have a baby forever and for EJ to be there when one of his children is born and have him deliver the baby.
I totally respect ur opinion and see that you are very passionate about ejole. I just wanna make it clear that I am not, nor ever have been a "shipper" for any couple. I just like compelling storytelling - which has been lacking big time. I was just commenting on your hijack statement. To hijack something suggests to me that it was taken out of someone else's hands, so to say that MarDar did that is just wrong. Perhaps they wrote it wrong from the beginning, but if the story was every hijacked, it was not by MarDar, it was by whoever re-wrote anything about it. I am just kind of tired of hearing MarDar (who again, I was no fan of, but....)being blamed for everything.....they are the Obama of Days. They are not perfect by any means, had a HUGE mess to clean up, were sidelined on most of their efforts at reform by others in power and continue to be blamed for every rainy day that ruins someone's bbq.....that is absurd to me
I understand what you're saying, no problem, but I figured there are edits going on or at least I know there's been stuff cut, but I'm still under the impression that TomSell are going off of MarDar's scripts and their own material doesn't start until mid August, at least that's the last i've read about it. But it's no big deal, whoever wrote it, Nicole has been pretty much non-existent anyway so I see no rewrites for her at least in the last few months since Ejole broke up. They just stopped using her for the most part. Tthey have took one of the things I've been looking forward to the most, Nicole's pregnancy, and practically screwed it up. I'm just glad Nicole is only a few months along and maybe they can rectify this. ITA with all of that :) and for the rcord, I'm a huge Nicole/Ari fan.....just want her to start being Nicole again!
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Jun 14 2012, 07:09 PM
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Well, it was hijacked in my opinioin because they tore Ejole apart just to have Nicole find out she's having his baby and we didn't get to see her come home and say, Honey, we're pregnant. EJ hasn't been allowed to be at her doctor's appointments. There has been no baby bonding accept for whatever this spoiler is. They've thrown EJ at Sami out of nowhere and they've thrown Nicole at Rafe and Dan out of nowhere and they have kept Ejole apart during the first few months of her pregnancy. They gave us an Ejole baby and then took away all that goes with it. That is how I meant they hijacked it. It started back in early March and it's continued on. This is just my feelings on the matter. If you don't agree, that's okay too. I just hope they make it up to us who have wanted Nicole to have a baby forever and for EJ to be there when one of his children is born and have him deliver the baby. A baby is basically a monkey's paw on Days now. The same thing happened to both Phloe and Ejami. If you want your couple to have a baby together, you are basically asking for them to be split up for a year.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:12 PM
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How long are they going to play out this freakin' Cafe story?? Caustin will be off-screen less than a month after this "feelings" spoiler happens, so how are they supposed to get any kind of decent resolution? Oh, that's right, they won't.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:17 PM
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I don't see the Steve and Kayla and Jack and Jennifer thing in the same light. Jack and Jennifer have both been on the show together for awhile now and even when Jack returned, they seemed to show a preference for Jennifer and Dan...and Missy seemed to play it as Jennifer showing a preference for Dan too.
In the case of Steve and Kayla, Stephen isn't around and he's happily employed elsewhere. He's getting stories on Y&R while here on Days, Mary Beth's sitting around doing two and three minute scenes now and then. It's why I understand the need to move Kayla into a different situation. I AM torn over it, but I do understand it and I hope that it works out and that the story's a good one.
Abe isn't gonna get over Lexie all that fast, and Kayla's going to be dealing with her feelings about Steve's decision, so I'm HOPING that anything else moves slowly or that nothing other than friendship happens between Kayla and Abe at all.
I don't want to close the door on a future relationship for Kayla, but I don't want it to be one of those fast numbers they always foist off on us nowadays.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:20 PM
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I don't see the Steve and Kayla and Jack and Jennifer thing in the same light. Jack and Jennifer have both been on the show together for awhile now and even when Jack returned, they seemed to show a preference for Jennifer and Dan...and Missy seemed to play it as Jennifer showing a preference for Dan too.
In the case of Steve and Kayla, Stephen isn't around and he's happily employed elsewhere. He's getting stories on Y&R while here on Days, Mary Beth's sitting around doing two and three minute scenes now and then. It's why I understand the need to move Kayla into a different situation. I AM torn over it, but I do understand it and I hope that it works out and that the story's a good one.
Abe isn't gonna get over Lexie all that fast, and Kayla's going to be dealing with her feelings about Steve's decision, so I'm HOPING that anything else moves slowly or that nothing other than friendship happens between Kayla and Abe at all.
I don't want to close the door on a future relationship for Kayla, but I don't want it to be one of those fast numbers they always foist off on us nowadays. Yes, it is a different situation, and for the reasons you list, I think it's less offensive than what was done with JnJ. . . . So far, at least. If Kayla and Abe go on a couple of dates and then hop in bed and if Kayla starts spewing lines like, "Maybe Steve and I never had that kind of love," then I'll have to reevaluate.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:21 PM
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EJ and Nicole bond over their unborn child for 30 seconds
until they are interrupted by Sami who waddles up asking some stupid question about Will,
[/end bonding moment]
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Jun 14 2012, 07:22 PM
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Well, it was hijacked in my opinioin because they tore Ejole apart just to have Nicole find out she's having his baby and we didn't get to see her come home and say, Honey, we're pregnant. EJ hasn't been allowed to be at her doctor's appointments. There has been no baby bonding accept for whatever this spoiler is. They've thrown EJ at Sami out of nowhere and they've thrown Nicole at Rafe and Dan out of nowhere and they have kept Ejole apart during the first few months of her pregnancy. They gave us an Ejole baby and then took away all that goes with it. That is how I meant they hijacked it. It started back in early March and it's continued on. This is just my feelings on the matter. If you don't agree, that's okay too. I just hope they make it up to us who have wanted Nicole to have a baby forever and for EJ to be there when one of his children is born and have him deliver the baby.
A baby is basically a monkey's paw on Days now. The same thing happened to both Phloe and Ejami. If you want your couple to have a baby together, you are basically asking for them to be split up for a year. A year? Both of those couples are still apart, lol.
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Also, boring though he can be, if Kayla gets Abe, I'd say that's miles ahead of getting hooked up with Dan (I LOVE women) Jonas.
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Jun 14 2012, 07:33 PM
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You know, I'd have been more unhappy if Kayla had hooked up with Dan. I like Abe, but I'm not all that fond of Dan. I know not everyone feels that way, but I just think Dan's had so many relationships in such a small window of time that it's hard to believe he's devoted to anyone, period.
If they'd have just left him to just BE and stopped hooking him up with someone every other month, maybe I would have thought of him as a suitable candidate for someone...even Kayla in the current situation.
There's always such a rush to put two characters together now. They NEVER really rushed it in the past. They gave us a little time to get to know the characters as individuals first, then had them fall in love....and hey...they were actually FRIENDS first.
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Tomswayer I agree I won't Carrie and Austin scenes. I mean unforunately didn't Carrie and Rafe express their feelings for one another already! PUKE AND GAG ME! Carriecis having Austins baby where are there scenes together?? I am ABSOLUTELY SICK AND TIRED OF CARRIE AND RAFE SCENES! MAKES ME PHYSICALLY SICK!
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