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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,614 Views)
JamaicanBeauty7
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Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
I'm so excited to see the memorial scenes and Sami comforting EJ. That's going to be nice. :cloud9:
Every time I see Nicole and Daniel spoiler I keep having to do a double take to make sure I'm not seeing things. My emotions are a mix among :sheep: :omg: and a dash of :shame: but you bet your ass I'm watching it. I have to see it with my own eyes to believe it.
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

Those are the very scenes I am boycotting. Will not be watching any Ej and Sami nastiness. I won't watch any Dickole sex either. Just vomit worthy scenes all around!
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Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
LOOK! Another Sami comforts ________ spoiler. How totally rare.

:puke:
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Jun 19 2012, 10:11 PM


Fast Forward to 6:30. The original problem was with natural conception, not pregnancy.
TFP! I forgot is was about natural conception. I guess EJ has super sperm. He also knocked up Sami both times they had sex. #SuperSperm

On a side note: Jack looks HOT. I wonder why they had him dressing like a homeless person with unbrushed hair this time around. He should have been suited up from day one!

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Jun 20 2012, 07:35 AM
Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
LOOK! Another Sami comforts ________ spoiler. How totally rare.

:puke:
Ah, the thumbs down. ;) Let me be clearer. What I really mean is that this is ANOTHER spoiler with "Sami" and "comfort" in it. My comment wasn't ONLY about this spoiler pertaining to EJ/Ejami. I happen not to like that aspect, of course, but my greater point was that there have been at least once-a-week spoilers, it seems, about Sami comforting so and so or being comforted by so and so or seeking comfort from so and so. It's just such an overused spoiler that it shouldn't even be a spoiler at this point...but rather a totally expected and predictable item. THAT is really my chief complaint (not solely to do with Ejami). If I had a nickel for every one of those comforting spoilers we've seen in recent weeks............I'd have many nickels.
Edited by elci525, Jun 20 2012, 09:34 AM.
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elci525
Jun 20 2012, 07:35 AM
Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
LOOK! Another Sami comforts ________ spoiler. How totally rare.

:puke:
I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
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elizhope
Jun 20 2012, 08:04 AM
lysie
Jun 19 2012, 10:11 PM


Fast Forward to 6:30. The original problem was with natural conception, not pregnancy.
TFP! I forgot is was about natural conception. I guess EJ has super sperm. He also knocked up Sami both times they had sex. #SuperSperm

On a side note: Jack looks HOT. I wonder why they had him dressing like a homeless person with unbrushed hair this time around. He should have been suited up from day one!

Yes, it was originally about conception but that was retconed later as Baker kept telling her that her problem was not carrying to term. I guess they needed to make her pregnant so that the switch could happen....it's like Chloe and her leukemia/poison or whatever made her womb barren...she happens to have the cutest kid now.
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Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

The spoilers never mentioned E.J. with Sami at Stefano's funeral actually.

Why is Sami ruined? Because she is back in E.J.'s orbit, slowly moving away from Lucas?

E.J. might be blackmailing Will, but he is the one who keeps wanting to be around E.J. He didn't have to accept E.J. bailing him out, but he did. And he is helping Will beat the charges. Why should Sami be mad at E.J.? Will himself is apparently mad at his mother for confronting E.J. E.J. and Will have something going on that doesn't involve Sami and so far, their dynamics has done wonders for Will. I can see her not holding it against E.J., who has been there for Will according to himself.

Funny how Sami wasn't ruined when she shot E.J.!
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LuvingLumi
Jun 20 2012, 08:27 AM
elci525
Jun 20 2012, 07:35 AM
Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
LOOK! Another Sami comforts ________ spoiler. How totally rare.

:puke:
I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
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JamaicanBeauty7
Jun 20 2012, 09:30 AM
LuvingLumi
Jun 20 2012, 08:27 AM
elci525
Jun 20 2012, 07:35 AM
Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
LOOK! Another Sami comforts ________ spoiler. How totally rare.

:puke:
I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
Sami only holds grudges when Sami wants to, and when she's done she's done until she wants to again. It's not like she hasn't done stuff to EJ because of her grudges. Obviously, she doesn't want to hold a grudge against EJ now, for whatever reason. This is nothing new.

I like how they were at Stefano's funeral. I thought it was well done. The best part for me was when Sami said, (paraphrasing) "careful, EJ, it almost sounds like we're friends" and EJ said "I wouldn't go that far" and gave her that cute, friendly wink.

They have them recognizing how even they think it's crazy they could get to this place again. They are enjoying each other's company in spite of themselves. I love that dynamic right now and to me it does make sense, because they don't have them just pretending like this isn't surprising them both. It is.
Edited by spartan, Jun 20 2012, 09:42 AM.
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Jun 19 2012, 04:33 PM
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.

and how exactly do we know 'what stories MarDar wanted to tell?" was it Ejole reuniting and having a baby or was it Ejami getting closer or was it Lumi getting back together? Or maybe it was Cafe? Or Dicole? OR Racole? There is so much WTFery in all of the writing that until we hear from someone or we wait till September to figure it out, no one can say anything with certainty.

having someone come in and take control of what use to be PR's role doesn't surprise me because it happens as the former leads get older. It's a staple on a soap....look at AS taking over Dee's role...look at Ej taking over Stefano's role...it happens....but what happened to PR seems to be directly related to Tomlin being back in some capacity...and MarDar being gone.
In my opinion, AS has never and COULD never take over DH's role. they tried that and it failed miserably. Swiney is no Deidre. Sami is DEFINITELY no Marlena! lol
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Jun 20 2012, 09:26 AM
The spoilers never mentioned E.J. with Sami at Stefano's funeral actually.

Why is Sami ruined? Because she is back in E.J.'s orbit, slowly moving away from Lucas?

E.J. might be blackmailing Will, but he is the one who keeps wanting to be around E.J. He didn't have to accept E.J. bailing him out, but he did. And he is helping Will beat the charges. Why should Sami be mad at E.J.? Will himself is apparently mad at his mother for confronting E.J. E.J. and Will have something going on that doesn't involve Sami and so far, their dynamics has done wonders for Will. I can see her not holding it against E.J., who has been there for Will according to himself.

Funny how Sami wasn't ruined when she shot E.J.!
It's MY opinion that Sami is ruined and it's not just because she's moving into Ej's orbit now and away from Lucas'...I've felt this way back in 2007 when I didn't see Sami fight for custody of Johnny, when I saw Sami forgive and trust Ej wasy too easily after she had trouble forgiving Lucas, Kate, Marlena, John and others who she perceived 'wronged' her. She never went out for revenge against Ej back then and her attempts at 'getting back at him' were stupid, it was more about protecting her kid, than getting revenge on Ej. I know that Sami is capable of shooting people to kill them, she did it to Lucas and Kate before, so no I don't perceive that as something that would ruin her character, for the reasons I stated above and because Ej had it coming FOR YEARS, IMHO. Was the timing of it a bit off? Maybe, I think it would have played out more if she would have done it around 2007, but hey, nothing about this show has made sense for about 5 years so I don't expect it to make sense now all of a sudden.

Sami by nature is not a forgiving person.....she doesn't forgive many people and she doesn't do it often. The fact that she's fine with Ej blackmailing her son, not once but twice is NOT in character for her. So yeah, it's strange and I don't give a flip if Will wants to be around Ej....since when has that stopped Sami....what other people wanted was never a concern for her.
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JamaicanBeauty7
Jun 20 2012, 09:30 AM
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Jun 20 2012, 08:27 AM
elci525
Jun 20 2012, 07:35 AM
Angie79
Jun 20 2012, 01:57 AM
Friday ("The Memorial Service")
A tribute to Lexie takes place at Chez Rouge; Sami comforts EJ; Nicole and Daniel grow closer.
LOOK! Another Sami comforts ________ spoiler. How totally rare.

:puke:
I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
The fact that Sami is even at the repast/funeral or whatever is happening at Chez.....as if she ever got along with Lexie, GMAFB. I can see her going to Abe's house and offering her condolences to him, she loves Abe, he's been like a father to her, and Roman's best friend. But there is too much bad blood between Lexie and Sami for me to even think that having her go to her funeral isn't another plot point for something and as we see....it's probably the dance. IMHO everything is so fucking contrived.
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Lil
Jun 20 2012, 09:41 AM
LuvingLumi
Jun 19 2012, 04:33 PM
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Jun 19 2012, 04:16 PM
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MarDar were all about Ejami no shocker there. I knew Lexie's memorial would be used to prop that pairing. Thank God they were fired. Wish I would have made a bet on that I could have made a few bucks.


Yet according to MarDar they weren't allowed to tell the stories they wanted to tell because NBC kept intervening.

The people thinking a switch will be turned and suddenly all of MarDar's stuff will be poof gone and everyone will magically be in different stories are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If NBC had the control over them, they have the control with the new writers.

PR is leaving, new writers or old writers. It doesn't matter read PR's statement. New writers or old writers doesn't change that new people have come in and taken over the place he once held on the show in airtime. Are the new writers to blame for MA being gone? No. New writers just like old writers couldn't give PR the story and airtime he wanted.

and how exactly do we know 'what stories MarDar wanted to tell?" was it Ejole reuniting and having a baby or was it Ejami getting closer or was it Lumi getting back together? Or maybe it was Cafe? Or Dicole? OR Racole? There is so much WTFery in all of the writing that until we hear from someone or we wait till September to figure it out, no one can say anything with certainty.

having someone come in and take control of what use to be PR's role doesn't surprise me because it happens as the former leads get older. It's a staple on a soap....look at AS taking over Dee's role...look at Ej taking over Stefano's role...it happens....but what happened to PR seems to be directly related to Tomlin being back in some capacity...and MarDar being gone.
In my opinion, AS has never and COULD never take over DH's role. they tried that and it failed miserably. Swiney is no Deidre. Sami is DEFINITELY no Marlena! lol
I understand, but I just wanted to make the point that it's not unforeseen for it to happen....it's the nature of soaps....obviously those that have been on for decades that the new generation, specifically the 30s set takes over for the older generation those in the late 40s and 50s. But PR's issue IMHO was more about the old/new writers than it is about the new generation taking over for the old....it sucks...but it is what it is.
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I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
Sami only holds grudges when Sami wants to, and when she's done she's done until she wants to again. It's not like she hasn't done stuff to EJ because of her grudges. Obviously, she doesn't want to hold a grudge against EJ now, for whatever reason. This is nothing new.

I like how they were at Stefano's funeral. I thought it was well done. The best part for me was when Sami said, (paraphrasing) "careful, EJ, it almost sounds like we're friends" and EJ said "I wouldn't go that far" and gave her that cute, friendly wink.

They have them recognizing how even they think it's crazy they could get to this place again. They are enjoying each other's company in spite of themselves. I love that dynamic right now and to me it does make sense, because they don't have them just pretending like this isn't surprising them both. It is.
I so agree with this. Knowing that I can fanwank any sort of EJami friendliness with the best of 'em I still appreciate the writers are making it a point to insert in their dialogue that even they find themselves surprised to be where they are. In any given moment either one of them are likely to be bitchy or dismissive of the other but when push comes to shove they do seem to step up in support when the situation calls for it.
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Jun 20 2012, 07:35 AM

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I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
Sami only holds grudges when Sami wants to, and when she's done she's done until she wants to again. It's not like she hasn't done stuff to EJ because of her grudges. Obviously, she doesn't want to hold a grudge against EJ now, for whatever reason. This is nothing new.

I like how they were at Stefano's funeral. I thought it was well done. The best part for me was when Sami said, (paraphrasing) "careful, EJ, it almost sounds like we're friends" and EJ said "I wouldn't go that far" and gave her that cute, friendly wink.

They have them recognizing how even they think it's crazy they could get to this place again. They are enjoying each other's company in spite of themselves. I love that dynamic right now and to me it does make sense, because they don't have them just pretending like this isn't surprising them both. It is.
I disagree with your first sentence. The ONLY person that I can say with certainty that Sami has forgiven completely and forgotten about all the bad blood between them is Lucas. Aside from that Sami is still holding grudges with virtually everyone she was holding grudges with over 10 years ago. She still can't stand John, she has her beef with Carrie and Marlena, she has her issues with Kate. But with Ej, it's never actually made sense for her to be fine one minute and then hating on him the next and then back to fine, etc. After over a decade of fighting custody battles for Will, lying and scheming to get him away from Lucas for no reason other than to try to trap Austin with the idea of being around for Will, she does NOTHING like that with Ej. She gives him Johnny as if he deserved a prize for his behavior. It's so freaking out of character it's ridiculous....look how it is that the ONLY way that Sami was able to get full custody of both Johnny and Syd was when Ej GAVE it to her.
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I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
The fact that Sami is even at the repast/funeral or whatever is happening at Chez.....as if she ever got along with Lexie, GMAFB. I can see her going to Abe's house and offering her condolences to him, she loves Abe, he's been like a father to her, and Roman's best friend. But there is too much bad blood between Lexie and Sami for me to even think that having her go to her funeral isn't another plot point for something and as we see....it's probably the dance. IMHO everything is so fucking contrived.
Sami and Lexie have been civil for awhile and even had lunch together with Carrie etc. I hated it, but this isn't new. I also don't think it's that surprising for her to be there for Abe and her children. Funerals are for the living and all.

I agree with those who liked the ejami scene after Stefano's death and who appreciated the writing and the acting choices that showed that there was still some distance/awkwardness between them. Admittedly there should be more discomfort there, though.
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I could swear that Sami comforted Ej over the death of Stefano too....but I saw NOTHING in those scenes that was anything special. The character of Sami has been so ruined to me, this twit is going and comforting the man right AFTER her son told her that he was being blackmailed by him again. WTF?

I remember the days that Sami would hold grudges forever, never easy to forgive, or forget for that matter. What happened to that Sami? The one that would seek revenge on the people that 'wronged' her, even if she went down in flames as a result. THAT is the Sami I miss and that Sami left the building the minute that Elvis came in.
I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
The fact that Sami is even at the repast/funeral or whatever is happening at Chez.....as if she ever got along with Lexie, GMAFB. I can see her going to Abe's house and offering her condolences to him, she loves Abe, he's been like a father to her, and Roman's best friend. But there is too much bad blood between Lexie and Sami for me to even think that having her go to her funeral isn't another plot point for something and as we see....it's probably the dance. IMHO everything is so fucking contrived.
Lexie is the aunt to two of Sami's kids. We know Johnny is at the repast. I'm guessing Sami brings them, just as she brought the kids to DiMansion when Stefano passed away.

In either event, Sami and Lexie were shown to get along for the sake of the children. From what I can recall, Sami respected Lexie's place in Johnny & Sydney's lives, even when EJ and Sami weren't getting along. There was a specific scene in the hospital where Sami made a point to bring Syd to see Lexie (in 2010). I know there were others as well.

One of the spoilers also says Sami reflects back on that bad blood between herself and Lexie. From all indications they are not ignoring the bad blood history at all. It still is okay for Sami to be there as the mother to Lexie's niece and nephew, and of course for Abe and EJ.
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I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
The fact that Sami is even at the repast/funeral or whatever is happening at Chez.....as if she ever got along with Lexie, GMAFB. I can see her going to Abe's house and offering her condolences to him, she loves Abe, he's been like a father to her, and Roman's best friend. But there is too much bad blood between Lexie and Sami for me to even think that having her go to her funeral isn't another plot point for something and as we see....it's probably the dance. IMHO everything is so fucking contrived.
Sami and Lexie have been civil for awhile and even had lunch together with Carrie etc. I hated it, but this isn't new. I also don't think it's that surprising for her to be there for Abe and her children. Funerals are for the living and all.

I agree with those who liked the ejami scene after Stefano's death and who appreciated the writing and the acting choices that showed that there was still some distance/awkwardness between them. Admittedly there should be more discomfort there, though.
Lexie was also Sami's big comforter/supporter when Sami had her cancer scare - even paying house calls and calling Sami repeatedly to make sure she followed up with her tests. They've been on much friendlier terms for several years.
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Jun 20 2012, 10:08 AM
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Jun 20 2012, 08:27 AM

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I guess I saw something different. They seem to spend maybe a whole episode of Sami trying to lift EJ's spirits and seeing the silver lining in his father's death, while understanding his relationship with this father. I don't expect it to be extremely huggy and whatnot, considering their relationship at the moment, but comforting? I think so.

And I would figure death of a sister >>> finding out EJ blackmailed her kid in terms of importance for the moment. It wouldn't surprise me if she is upset but is respectful to a degree due to the circumstances.
Sami only holds grudges when Sami wants to, and when she's done she's done until she wants to again. It's not like she hasn't done stuff to EJ because of her grudges. Obviously, she doesn't want to hold a grudge against EJ now, for whatever reason. This is nothing new.

I like how they were at Stefano's funeral. I thought it was well done. The best part for me was when Sami said, (paraphrasing) "careful, EJ, it almost sounds like we're friends" and EJ said "I wouldn't go that far" and gave her that cute, friendly wink.

They have them recognizing how even they think it's crazy they could get to this place again. They are enjoying each other's company in spite of themselves. I love that dynamic right now and to me it does make sense, because they don't have them just pretending like this isn't surprising them both. It is.
I disagree with your first sentence. The ONLY person that I can say with certainty that Sami has forgiven completely and forgotten about all the bad blood between them is Lucas. Aside from that Sami is still holding grudges with virtually everyone she was holding grudges with over 10 years ago. She still can't stand John, she has her beef with Carrie and Marlena, she has her issues with Kate. But with Ej, it's never actually made sense for her to be fine one minute and then hating on him the next and then back to fine, etc. After over a decade of fighting custody battles for Will, lying and scheming to get him away from Lucas for no reason other than to try to trap Austin with the idea of being around for Will, she does NOTHING like that with Ej. She gives him Johnny as if he deserved a prize for his behavior. It's so freaking out of character it's ridiculous....look how it is that the ONLY way that Sami was able to get full custody of both Johnny and Syd was when Ej GAVE it to her.
Sami did seem to forget the bad blood between she and Lucas but I would never think it out of character for her to recall it again if it suited her purposes. She would. She has with Lucas. Their history is not one consistent and fluid dynamic. Sami got along with him and all was forgotten in the moment, and then they'd break up and she'd do and say what she needed to say against him, if she felt it was justified in the moment. So no, that's not the way I see the Lumi history at all.

Just as with any of Sami's men, she forgives and forgets when she wants to, but none of them should be surprised when her vengeful self can rear its ugly head again and stuff will come back to bite them in the ass.

Same with John. They made a huge deal out of Sami finally making peace with him and all was seemingly right with the world. Then, when things don't go her way and she needs someone to blame, yes, she rakes John back over the coals. That's just how she rolls. I don't see why or how EJ should be an exception to this rule.
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