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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
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Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,611 Views)
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Jun 20 2012, 11:45 AM
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No John and Marlena in their,wtf,guess I am skipping that week.
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Jun 20 2012, 11:46 AM
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I get MarDar wanted Ejami, but there was no excuse to trash Nicole like this. Beast can forgive Ej for blackmailing her son, enough to comfort him. Yet Nicole who we have seen love and support Ej can't and to top it off has nasty sex with Dan. It's so obvious what MarDar were doing here.Trash Nicole and Ejole beyond belief to make the audience root for Ejami. All its making me do is turn the tv off and I'll continue to tune out until that changes. :shame: I still recall though when Sami was the one there for EJ when Tony died. She was the one who brought Johnny to him and to cheer him up and listened to him, while Nicole was shown taunting Tony on his death bed and trying to send him to his grave all to protect her secret (that he had recently found out) That wasn't under MarDar's pen.
Nicole is at an all time-low, IMO, with this latest spoiler. This isn't the first time though that Nicole has not been there for EJ in his time of need when she could have been. It's also not the first time Nicole has been ready to sell EJ up the river to save herself. These things are not exclusive to MarDar.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:04 PM
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This is just rediculous. This is the third time in a few weeks Sami has learn that Ej has been screwing with her family and has not reacted like Sami. She learned that Will shot EJ and was mad at Lucas, learned that Ej was blackmailing Will and sought his advice to deal with her gay son and now learns that he's still blackmailing him. And what she do. Get angry for three seconds then comforts him about lexie. Lexie-- any other time she'd dance on her grave.
Yet people say Sami is the real Sami with Ej? Un-freaking-believable!
But then again, look at the shit they have Lucas and Austin doing. Lucas and Austin have been whipped out under these so-called writers. It's just not logical. I can't support shit that makes no sense.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:04 PM
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Now don't come whoopin' my ass at the grocery store cause I picked on your fav on here!
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Well- Ive read all 65 pages so far. Bout all I have to say is, what the hell is Nicole thinking???
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Jun 20 2012, 12:08 PM
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I get MarDar wanted Ejami, but there was no excuse to trash Nicole like this. Beast can forgive Ej for blackmailing her son, enough to comfort him. Yet Nicole who we have seen love and support Ej can't and to top it off has nasty sex with Dan. It's so obvious what MarDar were doing here.Trash Nicole and Ejole beyond belief to make the audience root for Ejami. All its making me do is turn the tv off and I'll continue to tune out until that changes. :shame:
I still recall though when Sami was the one there for EJ when Tony died. She was the one who brought Johnny to him and to cheer him up and listened to him, while Nicole was shown taunting Tony on his death bed and trying to send him to his grave all to protect her secret (that he had recently found out) That wasn't under MarDar's pen. Nicole is at an all time-low, IMO, with this latest spoiler. This isn't the first time though that Nicole has not been there for EJ in his time of need when she could have been. It's also not the first time Nicole has been ready to sell EJ up the river to save herself. These things are not exclusive to MarDar. My whole point is Nicole is being thrown to the wolves to further MarDar's agenda which was Ejami. I also remember two seperate events where both Sami and Nicole found Ej at his lowest point in life one shot him in the head and one saved his life. Usually it didn't matter how mad Nicole was at Ej at the end of the day a lot of times she was there for him.
And I know Nicole has been ready to send Nicole to prison before, that doesn't bother me because Ej has done the same to her.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:15 PM
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I get MarDar wanted Ejami, but there was no excuse to trash Nicole like this. Beast can forgive Ej for blackmailing her son, enough to comfort him. Yet Nicole who we have seen love and support Ej can't and to top it off has nasty sex with Dan. It's so obvious what MarDar were doing here.Trash Nicole and Ejole beyond belief to make the audience root for Ejami. All its making me do is turn the tv off and I'll continue to tune out until that changes. :shame:
I still recall though when Sami was the one there for EJ when Tony died. She was the one who brought Johnny to him and to cheer him up and listened to him, while Nicole was shown taunting Tony on his death bed and trying to send him to his grave all to protect her secret (that he had recently found out) That wasn't under MarDar's pen. Nicole is at an all time-low, IMO, with this latest spoiler. This isn't the first time though that Nicole has not been there for EJ in his time of need when she could have been. It's also not the first time Nicole has been ready to sell EJ up the river to save herself. These things are not exclusive to MarDar.
My whole point is Nicole is being thrown to the wolves to further MarDar's agenda which was Ejami. I also remember two seperate events where both Sami and Nicole found Ej at his lowest point in life one shot him in the head and one saved his life. Usually it didn't matter how mad Nicole was at Ej at the end of the day a lot of times she was there for him. And I know Nicole has been ready to send Nicole to prison before, that doesn't bother me because Ej has done the same to her. My point was I don't see this writing of Nicole as exclusive trashing by MarDar to further EJami along, because Nicole has done these things before (minus sleeping with her doctor while pregnant). Nicole is there for EJ when she wants to be, but when she doesn't, she couldn't give two shits about him. That's just how it's been written for them. That's why I don't see the big deal about Sami being there for EJ instead of Nicole. It's not the first time that's happened, and it wasn't under MarDar.
Whether you like it or not just depends on your preferences.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:16 PM
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I just don't see how MarDar were writing for ejami. They started the reboot off with bringing back the vets and ejami sex. After the ejami sex EJ and Sami hardly EVER interacted. It wasn't until the share that wine scene that they started to become amicable towards one another. MarDar wrote Nicole pregnant and brought back Lucas making me believe that they were going for ejole and Lumi. Something happen(behind the scenes) and I don't know what and now ejami are being friendlier and Im liking it more and more. IMO MarDar were not writing for ejami
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Jun 20 2012, 12:17 PM
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I think Sami's happy Will is speaking to her again and she doesn't want to rock the boat with him. He's out of jail and she's grateful for that. It's a "never look a gift horse in the mouth" kind of thing. Ultimately, EJ has helped Will and he's done some things that were not to the benefit of Will. Will did need someone to take a firm hand with him. Usually when young people are spinning out of control they subconsciously want someone to reign them back in. When they're confused about their place in the world, there is comfort in someone setting clear boundaries. Is blackmail the recommended way to do so, of course not. But EJ got Will to stop running around scattered, and to focus in the only way EJ knows how. By laying down the law and negative reinforcement. But because of EJ's experience with father/son relationships, he used money and power as a positive reinforcement, which is wrong. But that's what Stefano gave him for being a good boy. EJ took Will as-is, set boundries and expectations, and followed through with consequences when Will crossed the lines. He rewarded Will money, but also with his affection and trust. EJ did the right thing in his own fucked up way. The only other person doing anything for Will was Marlena. Between her unconditional love and EJ's clear boundaries Will ended up better off than he would have been with his own parents. Sami is lousy at unconditional love, and Lucas is lousy about setting boundaries and standards for acceptable behavior and following through with consequences. Maybe because lucas didn't have a man do that for him when he was young. Victor didn't bother and Kate encouraged Lucas to run wild. It's impressive he's gotten his life together at all. EJ didnt do a perfect job, but it was more than anything anyone else was doing. If it was left to Sami and Lucas, Will would have run away. His self loathing and heredity would probably have him roaming the streets of Chicago, turning tricks to buy booze and get by. "Why are you still here?" "Because you told me to stay." is not aweful and abusive. Its what Will needs and wants right now. Someone to take enough interest in him to reign him in. That person just happens to be a fucked up and imperfect parent, as we all are to different degrees.
There are ways to do that without Ej blackmailing Will again and again. If he truly had Will's best interest at heart and he cared for Sami then why continue to have Will under his thumb.
He's speaking in terms that Will can understand. #CreativeParentingToGetResults #Ejshouldparenthisownkids
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Jun 20 2012, 12:18 PM
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It's the same as when they brought Lucas back from jail and tried to make him an unfit father who couldn't care for Allie and could care less about Johnnie. It just ignores the fact that Lucas was raising both of those kids while Sami was busy with the vendetta. It's the same as how they've ruined Will and Lucas's close relationship to make Ej the blackmailing father figure and mentor, ignoring the history of why Will hates him so much.
The truth is Ejami sucks because they have to ruin characters and rewrite or ignore history to try to make them plausible. The fake ass couple is horrible because the only people willing to ignore all the shit for Ejami are their fans. And if you can't get general fans, much like politics and independents, you have a shit couple.
Lucas and Sami did alot of shit to eachother. And to this day they bring it up. They talk about stuff that happened in 1998.
Meanwhile Sami and EJ whitewash shuff that happened a week ago. Ejami is just a shit couple. Stink up everything.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:19 PM
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I just don't see how MarDar were writing for ejami. They started the reboot off with bringing back the vets and ejami sex. After the ejami sex EJ and Sami hardly EVER interacted. It wasn't until the share that wine scene that they started to become amicable towards one another. MarDar wrote Nicole pregnant and brought back Lucas making me believe that they were going for ejole and Lumi. Something happen(behind the scenes) and I don't know what and now ejami are being friendlier and Im liking it more and more. IMO MarDar were not writing for ejami Did you miss their interview last year? They even hinted that they might be heading back there. And considering they thought up the beastsex this makes me think heading back to Ejami was their plan all along.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:23 PM
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I just don't see how MarDar were writing for ejami. They started the reboot off with bringing back the vets and ejami sex. After the ejami sex EJ and Sami hardly EVER interacted. It wasn't until the share that wine scene that they started to become amicable towards one another. MarDar wrote Nicole pregnant and brought back Lucas making me believe that they were going for ejole and Lumi. Something happen(behind the scenes) and I don't know what and now ejami are being friendlier and Im liking it more and more. IMO MarDar were not writing for ejami The minute they wrote the grief sex they wrote for Ejami, and that was filmed in August of last year, and they came on in July...it was one of the very FIRST things they did. Forget that they didn't interact, Ejami were keeping a secret from others, and it became 'their' thing to keep, they didn't focus on them as a 'couple' but they were writing for 'them'.
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My whole point is Nicole is being thrown to the wolves to further MarDar's agenda which was Ejami. I don't like what they are doing to Nicole, but I kinda wonder/hope that they are setting her up for Eric. She's seems almost needy for love. I've never felt like Ej truly loves her. Brady was more a friend with benefits. Dan seems like desperation.
I feel like Eric genuinely loved her and deep down she loved him. But because of her childhood, she wasn't capable of trusting in love. I'd love to see a relationship develop between them where she does come to understand true love. I think Ari would be wonderful playing a character who selflessly loved someone, and I'd LOVE to see it.
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I just don't see how MarDar were writing for ejami. They started the reboot off with bringing back the vets and ejami sex. After the ejami sex EJ and Sami hardly EVER interacted. It wasn't until the share that wine scene that they started to become amicable towards one another. MarDar wrote Nicole pregnant and brought back Lucas making me believe that they were going for ejole and Lumi. Something happen(behind the scenes) and I don't know what and now ejami are being friendlier and Im liking it more and more. IMO MarDar were not writing for ejami
Did you miss their interview last year? They even hinted that they might be heading back there. And considering they thought up the beastsex this makes me think heading back to Ejami was their plan all along. Exactly! But the thing that sealed it even more for me that they were going with EJAMI was them joining their Facebook page. That told me all I needed to know. The favorable nonsensical writing to get them together eventually was just further proof as these latest craptastic spoilers show. They couldn't make things anymore obvious if they tried. Short of wearing a neon sign saying "If there was any doubt we love EJAMI and are writing for them", so screw everyone else".
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Jun 20 2012, 12:31 PM
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There are ways to do that without Ej blackmailing Will again and again. If he truly had Will's best interest at heart and he cared for Sami then why continue to have Will under his thumb.
He's speaking in terms that Will can understand. #CreativeParentingToGetResults
#Ejshouldparenthisownkids This attitude that Ej should be everyone's daddy figure is just not only hypocritical its make no sense.
Will doesn't need Ej to learn about the real world. The kid grew up in Victor's house with Victor, Kate, Nicole, Lucas, Brandon (who used to scheme) and Sami. The boy wasn't raised by nuns.
To say Ej need to teach Will is like Saying a boy raised by wolves would need to learn how to hunt.
And Will hates EJ. It's that simple. He's hated EJ for five years. He doesn't see as a father figure. This isn't Shawn and Bo. Or tony and Stephano. This storyline is a slap in the face of any fan who's watched the show for more than three minutes.
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He's speaking in terms that Will can understand. #CreativeParentingToGetResults
#Ejshouldparenthisownkids
This attitude that Ej should be everyone's daddy figure is just not only hypocritical its make no sense. Will doesn't need Ej to learn about the real world. The kid grew up in Victor's house with Victor, Kate, Nicole, Lucas, Brandon (who used to scheme) and Sami. The boy wasn't raised by nuns. To say Ej need to teach Will is like Saying a boy raised by wolves would need to learn how to hunt. And Will hates EJ. It's that simple. He's hated EJ for five years. He doesn't see as a father figure. This isn't Shawn and Bo. Or tony and Stephano. This storyline is a slap in the face of any fan who's watched the show for more than three minutes. Not to mention that he's barely a parent to his own kids.
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I just don't see how MarDar were writing for ejami. They started the reboot off with bringing back the vets and ejami sex. After the ejami sex EJ and Sami hardly EVER interacted. It wasn't until the share that wine scene that they started to become amicable towards one another. MarDar wrote Nicole pregnant and brought back Lucas making me believe that they were going for ejole and Lumi. Something happen(behind the scenes) and I don't know what and now ejami are being friendlier and Im liking it more and more. IMO MarDar were not writing for ejami
Did you miss their interview last year? They even hinted that they might be heading back there. And considering they thought up the beastsex this makes me think heading back to Ejami was their plan all along. That was the only couple the interviewer asked about though. They probably would have said the same thing regardless. The writing was all over the place. Everybody was given good scenes and almost every couple got thrown under the bus. I'll never understand why ejami not wanting to kill each other is supposed to be more substantial than a baby and a bunch of 'cute' scenes.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:36 PM
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#Ejshouldparenthisownkids
This attitude that Ej should be everyone's daddy figure is just not only hypocritical its make no sense. Will doesn't need Ej to learn about the real world. The kid grew up in Victor's house with Victor, Kate, Nicole, Lucas, Brandon (who used to scheme) and Sami. The boy wasn't raised by nuns. To say Ej need to teach Will is like Saying a boy raised by wolves would need to learn how to hunt. And Will hates EJ. It's that simple. He's hated EJ for five years. He doesn't see as a father figure. This isn't Shawn and Bo. Or tony and Stephano. This storyline is a slap in the face of any fan who's watched the show for more than three minutes.
Not to mention that he's barely a parent to his own kids. But don't they just look soooo cute together! :sarcasm:
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He's speaking in terms that Will can understand. #CreativeParentingToGetResults
#Ejshouldparenthisownkids
This attitude that Ej should be everyone's daddy figure is just not only hypocritical its make no sense. Will doesn't need Ej to learn about the real world. The kid grew up in Victor's house with Victor, Kate, Nicole, Lucas, Brandon (who used to scheme) and Sami. The boy wasn't raised by nuns. To say Ej need to teach Will is like Saying a boy raised by wolves would need to learn how to hunt. And Will hates EJ. It's that simple. He's hated EJ for five years. He doesn't see as a father figure. This isn't Shawn and Bo. Or tony and Stephano. This storyline is a slap in the face of any fan who's watched the show for more than three minutes. I agree. It's not like EJ's schemes have been so successful anyway. And uh...the man still lives under his dead daddy's thumb with about the same amount of autonomy as Will. If they'd make EJ grow up first, it'd make a lot more sense. As it is, Will is learning things he'd know anyway from a manchild who still hasn't mastered it himself. I doubt that's the intention but they write characters like EJ, Sami, Lucas, and Rafe like overgrown teenagers.
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Jun 20 2012, 12:38 PM
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One eyed Willy wanting his parents to dance at a funeral. Doesn't get much more contrived then that. :shame: :huh1: Wow. Please explain how that is NOT contrived?
Pretty clear cut contrivement if you ask me.
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- Jun 20 2012, 12:16 PM
I just don't see how MarDar were writing for ejami. They started the reboot off with bringing back the vets and ejami sex. After the ejami sex EJ and Sami hardly EVER interacted. It wasn't until the share that wine scene that they started to become amicable towards one another. MarDar wrote Nicole pregnant and brought back Lucas making me believe that they were going for ejole and Lumi. Something happen(behind the scenes) and I don't know what and now ejami are being friendlier and Im liking it more and more. IMO MarDar were not writing for ejami
Did you miss their interview last year? They even hinted that they might be heading back there. And considering they thought up the beastsex this makes me think heading back to Ejami was their plan all along.
That was the only couple the interviewer asked about though. They probably would have said the same thing regardless. The writing was all over the place. Everybody was given good scenes and almost every couple got thrown under the bus. I'll never understand why ejami not wanting to kill each other is supposed to be more substantial than a baby and a bunch of 'cute' scenes. you don't think that throwing Ej and Sami into grunt fuck mode about one month after their scenes started filming was not MarDar's idea of writing for Ejami in some form or fashion?
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