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Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,606 Views)
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I was glad when Bryan came back, but now I'm not so sure. I hated Lumi vs. Ejami years ago, and now there is so much bickering again about Lumi, Ejami, Ejole, and even Safe to a quieter extent.

I don't understand why everyone wants Sami and why everything seems to revolve around Sami, whether it be who she has or who she doesn't have. I wish we could just watch stories and see what happens, and NOT just for Sami and Ej but for everyone. I really wish they would write Sami out even if just for a little while to test the waters. Then maybe characters could be focused on stories instead of Sami, Sami, Sami. Surely Lucas can have someone else in his life, some kind of real story instead of it all being about her. Lucas, Rafe, Ej, I'm actually shocked Daniel hasn't started falling all over Sami too.

I'd really just like an actual storyline for these characters. The 30-40s are the worst group. I also wish we had no spoilers and just had to watch and see what happens. I need to go back to not reading spoilers. I was doing well till I heard MA was let go after they totally wasted his story. (Why not get rid of Jennifer instead of Jack!!!!!), and now I'm worried about others. Sorry for the rant, but I have to think the writers are never going to 'win' no matter what they do with Sami, Lucas, Ej, Rafe (though I'd really like Rafe to just go away period).

I really really really hope they get Nicole out of this mess when Eric comes back.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepeveryone I find it somewhat interesting that those that seem to think it was MarDar's plan to go with Ejami are non-supporters of the couple, while those that seem to doubt that are supporters of the couple.On the bold, I think that its in the non ejami fans' best interest that ejami was the thing that got MarDar kicked out. That means the story will die with them. As I mentioned earlier, there were a lot of people who were confident that this was an ejole/lumi story too until the leaks about network interference came out. I can't be the only person who remembers the rampant speculation that MarDar's plan was to kill ejami once and for all by making them cousins.

Conversely, it's in the ejami fans' best interest that ejami was the story NBC wanted to be told. And the 'once bitten, twice shy' thing plays a huge part for me. I'm happy for the crumbs, but they've danced around ejami so much that I'm not going to believe they're going there until I see a mutual declaration of love when there's no secrets or third wheels waiting in the wings. Then last, but not least, MarDar jumped around so much that afaic, the only couple we can know for sure was their rooting couple was WilSon, because there is literally nobody else on canvas for them to date.

On the tango, I remember people thinking ejole was moving too fast, but I don't remember anyone arguing that this clearly meant that they were just a plot point and I think it's strange that it was 'obviously' a plot point all along now, when a few months ago, it was 'obviously' just the opposite. People have mentioned the pattern you see before, but istm that if everyone is doing musical pairs every three months, it would follow that nobody is really the rooting couple. If that was the case wouldn't the only real plan be to string every fanbase along?
if lumi was the story for mardr they would not have sami and ej almost kiss[the cut scences] in the same day she sleep with lucas and barley remember if they couple now or not

with cafe you know they want each other and so with bradison
Okay, so why isn't the reverse true? If ejami was the story, why did lumi have sex? Heck, why was there a lumi? Putting them together advanced nothing and only served to give the lumis something to cheer over. Plus, I clearly remember it being said that the lumis were getting the bones and ejamis were getting the crumbs.
i do not call photoshoot crumbs for ej and sami . if alison whould have photoshoot with bryan too it will be diffrent case
The "Ejami" photoshoot is about Alison Sweeney. Plain and simple. She is not only a daytime "star", she is one of NBC's stars in general. They are promoting her. And what better way to do that than to pair her with the most handsome male actor on DOOL. The picture of Ali Sweeney with an extremely handsome man (if it is widely distributed) should cause a bit of interest in DOOL and ultimately in TBL as well.
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While Nicole did sleep around in the past it has no baring on the here and now. Sami was NEVER A slut either and they turned her into one. In any case the writing was going in an EJAMI direction with Lucas and Nicole as the temporary angst. He is barely on and only with Sami and Will. I think they were going to bring Autumn on for him there was that NBC poll and as spoilers show they threw Dan at Nicole so EJAMI "get together". NarDar were m,ore willing than ANY other regime to actually put them together and were given as I said the slow build no matter how much they had EJ professsing to want Nicole. Otherwise Dan would not have been inserted into the mix so EJ dumps her and goes running to Sami and professing undying love to her.
I think Nicole doing what Nicole has done for years is extremely relevant. People who wanted Nicole the mommy got what they wanted, and people who liked Nicole the ho are getting that. That doesn't have to have anything to do with ejami and at this point there are no signs that they're going to be connected at all. Lucas has been an afterthought for years and I really doubt anyone was going to hire a woman for him. We're going to have to agree to disagree.
How does Nicole now sleeping with one man so far since she is seperated from her husband equate to her being a "ho? That action is no less moral than what Sami or Marlena or Kate have done.
Being a Ho isn't contingent on what other people do.
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I think Nicole doing what Nicole has done for years is extremely relevant. People who wanted Nicole the mommy got what they wanted, and people who liked Nicole the ho are getting that. That doesn't have to have anything to do with ejami and at this point there are no signs that they're going to be connected at all. Lucas has been an afterthought for years and I really doubt anyone was going to hire a woman for him. We're going to have to agree to disagree.
How does Nicole now sleeping with one man so far since she is seperated from her husband equate to her being a "ho? That action is no less moral than what Sami or Marlena or Kate have done.
Being a Ho isn't contingent on what other people do.
Being a "ho" is not about having sex with someone with whom you are not legally married is it? Surely not. Then I would say the person on the show who became a teen mom would then be considered a "ho" with a son to prove it.
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Sure if you ignore that Sami forgave people in that time period. I was never just talking about Sami (or EJ) though. All the characters have had periods of inconsistency and been entertaining in spite of it. To use Sami as an example though, it wasn't like her to accept the judge's order that she split her time with Allie 50/50 with Lucas. Weren't you glad that happened, though?
she forgave ONE person fully, and it took her over a year and a half to do that. Compare that with how easily she forgave Ej and trusted him in 2007 after the rape. It's mind blowing stupid IMHO.
She forgave John, Marlena and Kate as well. Yes, she brought up the things they did again when it suited her, but she's done the same exact thing to EJ.
She forgave them after how many years? And this was without them continuing to screw her over? She forgives EJ in fifteen minutes and never brings up the shit he does and that in character for her? I don't think so. And this is while he continues to try and break her.

And even when she temporarily forgives, she still brings up her issues with them. But with EJ... nothing. And I'm not just talking abuot the rape. Nothing about the kidnapping and faking Sydney's death. Nothing about keeping Will's shooting a secret. Nothing about Rafe two. Nothing about the fake deportion scheme... on and on and on... yet Sami says nothing.
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How does Nicole now sleeping with one man so far since she is seperated from her husband equate to her being a "ho? That action is no less moral than what Sami or Marlena or Kate have done.
Being a Ho isn't contingent on what other people do.
Being a "ho" is not about having sex with someone with whom you are not legally married is it? Surely not. Then I would say the person on the show who became a teen mom would then be considered a "ho" with a son to prove it.
er what? Are you saying having premarital sex makes you a ho? Or being a teen mom makes you a ho? If that's what you are saying, I don't agree with that. However, for arguments sake, lets say that Sami and Marlena ARE hoes, what bearing does that have on Nicole's ho-dom?
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Being a Ho isn't contingent on what other people do.
Being a "ho" is not about having sex with someone with whom you are not legally married is it? Surely not. Then I would say the person on the show who became a teen mom would then be considered a "ho" with a son to prove it.
er what? Are you saying having premarital sex makes you a ho? Or being a teen mom makes you a ho? If that's what you are saying, I don't agree with that. However, for arguments sake, lets say that Sami and Marlena ARE hoes, what bearing does that have on Nicole's ho-dom?
I think its fair to say that under MarDar everyone were hos or man hos lusting after someone else. LOL :laugh:
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jun 20 2012, 06:04 PM.
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Being a Ho isn't contingent on what other people do.
Being a "ho" is not about having sex with someone with whom you are not legally married is it? Surely not. Then I would say the person on the show who became a teen mom would then be considered a "ho" with a son to prove it.
er what? Are you saying having premarital sex makes you a ho? Or being a teen mom makes you a ho? If that's what you are saying, I don't agree with that. However, for arguments sake, lets say that Sami and Marlena ARE hoes, what bearing does that have on Nicole's ho-dom?
Maybe bringing up the word Ho makes some think of Sami right off the bat. I know it does me. ;)
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Being a "ho" is not about having sex with someone with whom you are not legally married is it? Surely not. Then I would say the person on the show who became a teen mom would then be considered a "ho" with a son to prove it.
er what? Are you saying having premarital sex makes you a ho? Or being a teen mom makes you a ho? If that's what you are saying, I don't agree with that. However, for arguments sake, lets say that Sami and Marlena ARE hoes, what bearing does that have on Nicole's ho-dom?
Maybe bringing up the word Ho makes some think of Sami right off the bat. I know it does me. ;)
I'm really surprised that people don't see Nicole as a ho because that was her whole schtick.
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Being a "ho" is not about having sex with someone with whom you are not legally married is it? Surely not. Then I would say the person on the show who became a teen mom would then be considered a "ho" with a son to prove it.
er what? Are you saying having premarital sex makes you a ho? Or being a teen mom makes you a ho? If that's what you are saying, I don't agree with that. However, for arguments sake, lets say that Sami and Marlena ARE hoes, what bearing does that have on Nicole's ho-dom?
I think its fair to say that under MarDar everyone were hos or man hos lusting after someone else. LOL :laugh:
I agree. I think the women on Days under the pen of MarDar were damaged the most. Though Higley wasn't a whole lot better with Chloe's SL.
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er what? Are you saying having premarital sex makes you a ho? Or being a teen mom makes you a ho? If that's what you are saying, I don't agree with that. However, for arguments sake, lets say that Sami and Marlena ARE hoes, what bearing does that have on Nicole's ho-dom?
I think its fair to say that under MarDar everyone were hos or man hos lusting after someone else. LOL :laugh:
I agree. I think the women on Days under the pen of MarDar were damaged the most. Though Higley wasn't a whole lot better with Chloe's SL.
For the men though Dr orange balls leads the pack as the biggest manwhore. He REALLY gets around. :D
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I think its fair to say that under MarDar everyone were hos or man hos lusting after someone else. LOL :laugh:
I agree. I think the women on Days under the pen of MarDar were damaged the most. Though Higley wasn't a whole lot better with Chloe's SL.
For the men though Dr orange balls leads the pack as the biggest Manwhore. He REALLY gets around. :D
To the point of pathology, there is something wrong with the guy.
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I agree. I think the women on Days under the pen of MarDar were damaged the most. Though Higley wasn't a whole lot better with Chloe's SL.
For the men though Dr orange balls leads the pack as the biggest Manwhore. He REALLY gets around. :D
To the point of pathology, there is something wrong with the guy.
He needs help to cure his obvious patient loving fetish. I'm surprised he hasn't contracted an STD with all the patients he has been with since his time in Salem. The surfer dude is off his rocker for sure.
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I agree that MarDar were writing for EJAMI all along. Other than the grief sex, there were lots of anvils dropped since the reboot that EJAMI was coming. I think the problem was that the EJAMI romance was being written too slowly. And EJAMI fans have been through too much to keep being strung along. This is where I think NBC stepped in. They recognized the popularity of EJAMI and wanted to have more EJAMI interaction. When Lucas returned and we started having Lumi scenes, ratings weren't that great. Granted the boring Alamania story was going on at the same time too.

So I agree we were headed toward EJAMI regardless, but NBC has taken more control and is making sure we finally get an EJAMI romance. Thankfully! And hopefully NBC will prevent TomSell from trying to separate EJAMI again. :whack:

The thought of seeing more attempts of boring Ejole, Lumi or Safe makes me :puke:
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Does anyone know when the promo for the summer gets released?
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I agree that MarDar were writing for EJAMI all along. Other than the grief sex, there were lots of anvils dropped since the reboot that EJAMI was coming. I think the problem was that the EJAMI romance was being written too slowly. And EJAMI fans have been through too much to keep being strung along. This is where I think NBC stepped in. They recognized the popularity of EJAMI and wanted to have more EJAMI interaction. When Lucas returned and we started having Lumi scenes, ratings weren't that great. Granted the boring Alamania story was going on at the same time too.

So I agree we were headed toward EJAMI regardless, but NBC has taken more control and is making sure we finally get an EJAMI romance. Thankfully! And hopefully NBC will prevent TomSell from trying to separate EJAMI again. :whack:

The thought of seeing more attempts of boring Ejole, Lumi or Safe makes me :puke:
I am not sure how anyone can know for sure what anyone is going to do. From what I have seen on my screens, I am confident in saying I think MarDar were writing for Ejami. But for now, I think it's anyone guess. That MarDar was writing for Ejami and is now out does not portend so well for that pairing, methinks. I know Tomlin loves Safe, so I would bet on a Safe reunion versus anything else, sadly. But I am not confident making any such grand declarations about anything. It's all up for grabs at this point.

I think there have been all of two or three Lumi scenes. Not sure how one can conclude anything about Lumi's effect on ratings from that. And there was plenty of other garbage in which those scenes were and continue to be couched, so....

I have a similar visceral reaction to Ejami, which I believe to be cringe-worthy, eye-rolling, etc. But whatever...this kind of talk is so played out at this point. If they do happen in earnest, at least this viewer will be tuning out.

It is getting so old anyway. Happen, don't happen - I am not sure any pay-off will be worth all this energy. I am not sure I am even as interested or invested anymore. Let Days just bow out gracefully in a year or so - I am thisclose to being done with the show as it is.
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Does anyone know when the promo for the summer gets released?
Did we get one last year? I think that they cancelled it. From the looks of the upcoming spoilers, they should skip this year too! :shame:
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I agree that MarDar were writing for EJAMI all along. Other than the grief sex, there were lots of anvils dropped since the reboot that EJAMI was coming. I think the problem was that the EJAMI romance was being written too slowly. And EJAMI fans have been through too much to keep being strung along. This is where I think NBC stepped in. They recognized the popularity of EJAMI and wanted to have more EJAMI interaction. When Lucas returned and we started having Lumi scenes, ratings weren't that great. Granted the boring Alamania story was going on at the same time too.

So I agree we were headed toward EJAMI regardless, but NBC has taken more control and is making sure we finally get an EJAMI romance. Thankfully! And hopefully NBC will prevent TomSell from trying to separate EJAMI again. :whack:

The thought of seeing more attempts of boring Ejole, Lumi or Safe makes me :puke:
I am not sure how anyone can know for sure what anyone is going to do. From what I have seen on my screens, I am confident in saying I think MarDar were writing for Ejami. But for now, I think it's anyone guess. That MarDar was writing for Ejami and is now out does not portend so well for that pairing, methinks. I know Tomlin loves Safe, so I would bet on a Safe reunion versus anything else, sadly. But I am not confident making anything such grand declarations about anything. It's all up for grabs at this point.

I think there have been all of two or three Lumi scenes. Not sure how one can conclude anything about Lumi's effect on ratings from that. And there was plenty of other garbage in which those scenes were and continue to be couched, so....

I have a similar visceral reaction to Ejami, which I believe to be cringe-worthy, eye-rolling, etc. But whatever...this kind of talk is so played out at this point. If they do happen in earnest, at least this viewer will be tuning out.

It is getting so old anyway. Happen, don't happen - I am not sure any pay-off will be worth all this energy. I am not sure I am even as interested or invested anymore. Let Days just bow out gracefully in a year or so - I am thisclose to being done with the show as it is.
hmm, I feel split in terms of what the writers wanted in terms of pairs, there are things that indicate that Ejami was not at all what they wanted, while one can see that from April and up until now there has been positive scenes between EJami to suggest that in the end, they will get back together. The question is, is it really the writers who want to write for EJami or is the case that NBC wants a story with them? It remains to be seen.
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Does anyone know when the promo for the summer gets released?
Did we get one last year? I think that they cancelled it. From the looks of the upcoming spoilers, they should skip this year too! :shame:
I believe we did... i also still find it strange that no summer previews have been released either.
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