|
Spoilers for the week of June 25th; *updated 6/19*
|
|
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,602 Views)
|
|
SocRMum1
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
Post #1141
|
Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
- Posts:
- 10,398
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #603
- Joined:
- December 6, 2007
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera
- Revenge
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Knots Landing
|
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 09:49 PM
- James&AriFan
- Jun 20 2012, 08:43 PM
- The Scorpion
- Jun 20 2012, 06:49 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
then why allow TomSell to clearly cut the near kiss that Sydney was suppose to interrupt? I don't get it?
I have never understood why people assume there was a near kiss that was cut. As I recall the spoiler indicated EJami would share a close moment interrupted by Sydney. The wording of spoilers is often misleading. I didn't find that scene to be disjointed or appear to have been cut. I think people leaped to the wrong conclusion based on the spoiler. I don't think anything happened behind the scenes or with the editing of the scene that had been shot months before.
Their dialogue after was cut. Two spoiler sites and the dvr alert had the near kiss and the electric moment the day before didnt happen either. Something was missing from those scenes IMHO since the dialogue was off. What dialogue was cut? How could we know what the dialogue was supposed to be?
And the number of spoiler sites/TV Guide/DVR listings doesn't mean much to me except they got their spoiler from the same source.
|
|
|
| |
|
six
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
Post #1142
|
- Posts:
- 13,427
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #1,842
- Joined:
- February 12, 2008
|
- vettejb
- Jun 20 2012, 05:21 PM
- six
- Jun 20 2012, 01:44 PM
- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 20 2012, 01:34 PM
- six
- Jun 20 2012, 01:27 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepeveryone
While Nicole did sleep around in the past it has no baring on the here and now. Sami was NEVER A slut either and they turned her into one. In any case the writing was going in an EJAMI direction with Lucas and Nicole as the temporary angst. He is barely on and only with Sami and Will. I think they were going to bring Autumn on for him there was that NBC poll and as spoilers show they threw Dan at Nicole so EJAMI "get together". NarDar were m,ore willing than ANY other regime to actually put them together and were given as I said the slow build no matter how much they had EJ professsing to want Nicole. Otherwise Dan would not have been inserted into the mix so EJ dumps her and goes running to Sami and professing undying love to her.
I think Nicole doing what Nicole has done for years is extremely relevant. People who wanted Nicole the mommy got what they wanted, and people who liked Nicole the ho are getting that. That doesn't have to have anything to do with ejami and at this point there are no signs that they're going to be connected at all. Lucas has been an afterthought for years and I really doubt anyone was going to hire a woman for him. We're going to have to agree to disagree.
How does Nicole now sleeping with one man so far since she is seperated from her husband equate to her being a "ho? That action is no less moral than what Sami or Marlena or Kate have done. There is no arbitrary cut off point before which Nicole's body-bartering no longer counts, and one does not magically stop being a ho because other people have out-ho'd them. I'm not sure why this argument is so popular. I wouldn't call Nicole a ho for sleeping with Daniel, (although she's skanky for having a one night stand while carrying someone else's baby). She's a ho because she's using her body to manipulate him into doing her bidding.
Edited by six, Jun 20 2012, 11:58 PM.
|
|
|
| |
|
lysie
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:46 PM
Post #1143
|
- Posts:
- 64,323
- Group:
- Admin
- Member
- #4,604
- Joined:
- May 20, 2009
|
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 09:49 PM
- James&AriFan
- Jun 20 2012, 08:43 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I have never understood why people assume there was a near kiss that was cut. As I recall the spoiler indicated EJami would share a close moment interrupted by Sydney. The wording of spoilers is often misleading. I didn't find that scene to be disjointed or appear to have been cut. I think people leaped to the wrong conclusion based on the spoiler. I don't think anything happened behind the scenes or with the editing of the scene that had been shot months before.
Their dialogue after was cut. Two spoiler sites and the dvr alert had the near kiss and the electric moment the day before didnt happen either. Something was missing from those scenes IMHO since the dialogue was off.
What dialogue was cut? How could we know what the dialogue was supposed to be? And the number of spoiler sites/TV Guide/DVR listings doesn't mean much to me except they got their spoiler from the same source. They don't, though.
|
|
|
| |
|
elci525
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:47 PM
Post #1144
|
- Posts:
- 2,512
- Group:
- Elite Member
- Member
- #11,934
- Joined:
- May 15, 2012
- Mood
- Veggedout
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of Our Lives
- Twitter ID
- @lorencapps
- YouTube ID
- elci525
|
- brazen
- Jun 20 2012, 10:28 PM
MarDar, TomSell, heck Guza. None of it matters, what matters is what NBC is telling them. MarDar have said that NBC controlled them. NBC is going to control TomSell and who ever is after TomSell. In 3 months, Lucas won't suddenly have a major story, Rafe won't be backburned, EJ and Will won't not be interacting. I really don't know what people expect to see suddenly in a snap between MarDar and TomSell's transition considering the editing now is already in transition. - Quote:
-
No one is sticking his or her heads in the sand. To me the anvils are obvious which is why I pretty confidently said MarDar were writing for Ejami, and I didn't mean immediately....I meant building towards something for later down the road. Some might say MarDar's Ejami stuff, in addition to the OCC and all-over the place writing, was a reason for the firing, others might say the anvils weren't good enough and higher-ups wanted to move things along. I really have no idea what is happening behind the scenes to speak for any writing regime or tv executive.
But anvils are just that - signs that hint that something might happen, but nothing clear-cut, unequivocal and declarative just yet. I don't think Lexie saying Ej and Sami should be together seals any kind of a deal. It's a big juicy anvil that, were I an Ejami fan, I'd probably be all over. But it doesn't mean anything is set in stone. It could be a red herring. It could be any number of things. Even when events that you think might seal the deal happen -- weddings, births, etc. -- that is never the case it seems. So I still maintain that we can't know anything until we see it, and even then, events and history on Days are funny fluid and changeable sorts of things.
If the roads the writers are on isn't the road they want to be on, then the scenes will be cut. Simple as that. The new writers are editing to suit their own needs and vision. People see anvils in lots of things that are random. However a major character of Lexie being dead and her last words of wisdom for EJ isn't just any anvil. It's huge. Had she said it about EJ and Nicole, EJ and Will, EJ and Melanie. It would be the same thing. If the scene is cut, that's the answer right there. If the scene plays, then there's one road that character is on. I respectfully but oh-so totally disagree. But you are right - if Lexie had said that about EJ and Nicole or heck, Sami and Lucas - I wold be very happy, but it WOULD be the SAME, in that I wouldn't hang my hat on it or think whatever it suggested couldn't be undone or redone or never done. That it's huge is your opinion; it's not fact. I agree that it's an anvil that continues the Ejami cheer-leading I have noticed, but I disagree it sets anything in stone. Simple as that.
As for editing scenes, I really don't know what is happening BTS. Maybe you are right. I dunno, but I also don't think anyone can claim to know unless you are an nbc exec or writer or fly on the wall. I also don't know that, if the writers were to cut scenes now, that doesn't mean they wouldn't write similar scenes to the ones they cut later down the road. I don't know that they are keeping these scenes now just to set something up and then spectacularly smash it to pieces later on. Build up tension as a huge red herring for something else. We just don't know. Even when something happens, we still don't know how long it will last or if it's been created to service some other story line or if it's the result of something that will be imminently dismissed.
Like the couple you like and look forward to what you think is coming down the pike. You may very well be correct. But I won't be convinced of anything UNEQUIVOCALLY until I see it after the new writers' stories take full hold. And even then nothing is for certain.
I don't think anything is definite or obvious just yet, and to claim it to be so is assuming. Which is fine. But it's not the same things as facts. jmo.
Edited by elci525, Jun 20 2012, 10:54 PM.
|
|
|
| |
|
SocRMum1
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:48 PM
Post #1145
|
Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
- Posts:
- 10,398
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #603
- Joined:
- December 6, 2007
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera
- Revenge
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Knots Landing
|
- lysie
- Jun 20 2012, 10:46 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 09:49 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Their dialogue after was cut. Two spoiler sites and the dvr alert had the near kiss and the electric moment the day before didnt happen either. Something was missing from those scenes IMHO since the dialogue was off.
What dialogue was cut? How could we know what the dialogue was supposed to be? And the number of spoiler sites/TV Guide/DVR listings doesn't mean much to me except they got their spoiler from the same source.
They don't, though. So where do the spoilers come from? There are multiple reputable sources that put them out for the show?
|
|
|
| |
|
brazen
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:48 PM
Post #1146
|
- Posts:
- 587
- Group:
- Banned
- Member
- #12,065
- Joined:
- June 13, 2012
|
- Hopeless_Dreamer
- Jun 20 2012, 10:35 PM
- brazen
- Jun 20 2012, 10:28 PM
If the scene is cut, that's the answer right there. If the scene plays, then there's one road that character is on.
Not necessarily. The actors have already said that what's happening on screen right now is pretty pointless. :shrug: The actors don't even watch the show daily. They know what they tape they have no idea what makes it to air. Half the time the actors are told in interviews as to what just happened on screen.
Is Will and EJ right now on screen pointless? MarDar created them. Will's coming out, is that pointless?
- Quote:
-
Here's the thing with anvils. Remember a few months ago when we were getting anvils every other day that EJ was going to be John's son? Then we started getting anvils that Lucas was going to be Ian's son, but then we heard that Ian was supposed to EJ's father. Even moreso, these are anvils from MarDar, not TomSell. I think there's probably something coming up with EJami, but whether that something will be positive or negative or part of MarDar's story or part of TomSell's story, I don't know. I know what my guess is, and my guess is based on just as much and just as reliable information as your guess.
Nobody knows what's going to happen, and at some point we're all going to have to stop pretending we do. The show isn't speaking. We.Don't.Know.
How many scenes have Lucas and Ian even had together? One? Other than one scene of Lucas and Ian meeting once when he was a kid and basically one I saw no anvil that they would de-Horton Lucas and change his parentage again. In fact, I have seen nothing in Lucas's entire return that showed they even cared to give him any main story at all much less saw an anvil about him and Ian. Bryan also says the same thing considering his quote about not having anything do on screen over the summer.
John and Hope still being married being in Alice's locked box versus Stefano's locked box of EJ's paternity none of that were anvils either. There was nothing that led the viewers into a road about John being EJ's father. Hope didn't find a strange baby photo somewhere wondering who that baby boy was. John and Marlena didn't sit around having a talk with John wishing he'd have more kids.
A legacy character of Lexie's final wishes and thoughts are something different. Lexie's a major character, her death is a major loss over the entire canvas. No matter what she's telling anyone, ie if she said she really believes that Abe will find love again. That means what she says, Abe will find love again.
|
|
|
| |
|
Helpless Romantic
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:48 PM
Post #1147
|
- Posts:
- 3,099
- Group:
- Elite Member
- Member
- #7,292
- Joined:
- August 21, 2010
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of our lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of our lives
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Melrose Place
|
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 20 2012, 10:38 PM
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:28 PM
The way I see it, MarDar cared about stringing all the viewers along, or better said, keeping them all watching. They really did try to please ALL the fan bases, which could have been a good thing, or a bad thing. Good thing: everyone watches. Bad thing: people don't like to be strung along, no one is satisfied, and eventually they stop watching. Let's analize what happened so far:
Safe: got their second wedding where Sami declared her everlasting love to Rafe, and told him that she wants to spend the rest of her life with him (trying to please Safe fans) while
Lumi: was in the works, with the return of Lucas, the man Sami referred to as "the love of her life", together with cutsey "teenagey" banter, kisses and "off set" love scenes to make the Lumi fans squeel with delight, while
Ejole: had months of bed scenes and tickling matches, plotting together, declaring everlasting love to each other and the big biggie, Nicole getting pregnant, resulting with all the Ejole fans swearing that their couple is "the end game", WHILE
Ejami: is getting closer and closer, both knowing that there is "something there" but still not acknowledging to be "it", still under production.
The way I see it, Mardar were true soap writers, writing in true soap fashion, and personally I dread Tomlin's return.
I disagree that true soap fashion is contrived BS to appease everyone. Good writers focus on character development and make CLEAR who the characters wanted to be with regardless of angst: Jennifer CLEARLY wanted Jack in the early days. Same with Kayla wanting Steve etc etc. With Sami she did want Lucas but then since 06 had her flip flopping and then they put her with Rafe where she CLEARLY wanted him throughout 2009- 2011. Until MarDar made it a bone throwing free for all with the 30 somethings. That is not good soap when their stories sucked to boot.
I'm not talking about soaps in the 80's or even 90's. I'm talking about modern writing, and on almost all the soaps, couples rotate in order to keep all the fans happy. Some storylines are better than others, and in Days' case, they sucked, but rotating couples happens all the time. I don't disagree there but the characters don't all just behave generically either. MarDar made the women all fickle sluts and the men dumb or slow just wanting to get laid.
|
|
|
| |
|
LuvingLumi
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:49 PM
Post #1148
|
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
- Posts:
- 22,007
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #5,892
- Joined:
- December 1, 2009
- Mood
- Sad
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera
- Revenge, Sons of Ararchy, Scandal
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- The Sopranos
- Twitter ID
- https://twitter.com/luvinglumi
- YouTube ID
- http://www.youtube.com/user/luvinglumi?feature=results_main
|
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 09:49 PM
- James&AriFan
- Jun 20 2012, 08:43 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I have never understood why people assume there was a near kiss that was cut. As I recall the spoiler indicated EJami would share a close moment interrupted by Sydney. The wording of spoilers is often misleading. I didn't find that scene to be disjointed or appear to have been cut. I think people leaped to the wrong conclusion based on the spoiler. I don't think anything happened behind the scenes or with the editing of the scene that had been shot months before.
Their dialogue after was cut. Two spoiler sites and the dvr alert had the near kiss and the electric moment the day before didnt happen either. Something was missing from those scenes IMHO since the dialogue was off.
What dialogue was cut? How could we know what the dialogue was supposed to be? And the number of spoiler sites/TV Guide/DVR listings doesn't mean much to me except they got their spoiler from the same source. I just edited my post the dialogue was off. If you go back and watch the scene they had them saying something in their dialogue doesn't make sense, he even says something about her saying the kiss with Lucas meant nothing to her but she never said that. I remember watching the scene and what they were talking about was weird, it felt as if they were referring to a scene that wasn't shown
|
|
|
| |
|
Deleted User
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:50 PM
Post #1149
|
|
Deleted User
|
- six
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- vettejb
- Jun 20 2012, 05:21 PM
- six
- Jun 20 2012, 01:44 PM
- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 20 2012, 01:34 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepeveryone
I think Nicole doing what Nicole has done for years is extremely relevant. People who wanted Nicole the mommy got what they wanted, and people who liked Nicole the ho are getting that. That doesn't have to have anything to do with ejami and at this point there are no signs that they're going to be connected at all. Lucas has been an afterthought for years and I really doubt anyone was going to hire a woman for him. We're going to have to agree to disagree.
How does Nicole now sleeping with one man so far since she is seperated from her husband equate to her being a "ho? That action is no less moral than what Sami or Marlena or Kate have done.
There is no arbitrary cut off point before which Nicole's body-bartering no longer counts, and one does not magically stop being a ho, because other people have out-ho'd them. I'm not sure why this argument is so popular. I wouldn't call Nicole a ho for sleeping with Daniel, (although she's skanky for having a one night stand while carrying someone else's baby). She's a ho because she's using her body to manipulate him into doing her bidding. I don't think Nicole is anymore of a ho/slut then any of the other female characters on this show.
|
|
|
| |
|
LuvingLumi
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:51 PM
Post #1150
|
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
- Posts:
- 22,007
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #5,892
- Joined:
- December 1, 2009
- Mood
- Sad
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera
- Revenge, Sons of Ararchy, Scandal
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- The Sopranos
- Twitter ID
- https://twitter.com/luvinglumi
- YouTube ID
- http://www.youtube.com/user/luvinglumi?feature=results_main
|
- lysie
- Jun 20 2012, 10:46 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 09:49 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Their dialogue after was cut. Two spoiler sites and the dvr alert had the near kiss and the electric moment the day before didnt happen either. Something was missing from those scenes IMHO since the dialogue was off.
What dialogue was cut? How could we know what the dialogue was supposed to be? And the number of spoiler sites/TV Guide/DVR listings doesn't mean much to me except they got their spoiler from the same source.
They don't, though. The lady at soaps.com even posted on her board that the scene was apparently cut because she got the spoiler from the show itself.
|
|
|
| |
|
lysie
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:52 PM
Post #1151
|
- Posts:
- 64,323
- Group:
- Admin
- Member
- #4,604
- Joined:
- May 20, 2009
|
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 10:48 PM
- lysie
- Jun 20 2012, 10:46 PM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 20 2012, 10:40 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
What dialogue was cut? How could we know what the dialogue was supposed to be? And the number of spoiler sites/TV Guide/DVR listings doesn't mean much to me except they got their spoiler from the same source.
They don't, though.
So where do the spoilers come from? There are multiple reputable sources that put them out for the show? Well, some of them aren't really meant to be spoilers. Some are for teasers and some are just supposed to be brief descriptors. Like I said earlier, someone was giving intentionally wrong spoilers for a while, and it wasn't the show. I'm not sure who it was, but it seems to have stopped, so I'm guessing someone knows who it was, lol.
|
|
|
| |
|
outrageous
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Post #1152
|
- Posts:
- 625
- Group:
- Member
- Member
- #11,757
- Joined:
- April 8, 2012
- Mood
- Daring
|
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character.
|
|
|
| |
|
DJsMommy
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:54 PM
Post #1153
|
♥
- Posts:
- 2,958
- Group:
- Elite Member
- Member
- #8,708
- Joined:
- February 23, 2011
- Mood
- Cheeky
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days Of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days Of Our Lives
- Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera
- Parenthood
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Falcon Crest
- Twitter ID
- RiversMama
- YouTube ID
- channel/UC5H2pyvOkvB5W0TBn4AKDMg
|
- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 19 2012, 05:35 PM
- Halloween Family
- Jun 19 2012, 05:25 PM
- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 19 2012, 05:20 PM
- Halloween Family
- Jun 19 2012, 05:15 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I took it to mean that they tie the knot possibly and she dies but the other thing leading me to believe there is a huge accident or natural disaster is this spoiler from SC: Down the road previews Gabi finally gets what she wants from Chad Alice's secrets from the grave continue to unfold Lexie passes away Jack, Carrie, Austin, and Madison all bid Salem farewell A man named Santo shakes a certain Salemite to his core Melanie's time in Salem comes to an end A wayward son returns to Salem The Phoenix rises again Nick Fallon returns to Salem Huge events rock Salem in August http://soapcentral.com/days/scoop.phpAlso I thought I read that Ari is takig a trip to Africa? So they could have her go missing based on whatever goes down but the wording of this spoiler leads me to believe there is a huge accident or natural disaster. JMO Though. We will see soon enough.
Do you know if Ari taking the full month or just a few days? Not saying you are wrong, but all this stuff doesn't sound like a WTD or kidnapping s/l that can be stretched out over months. I don't think TomSell would view Nicole's baby as untouchable if they could squeeze a long lasting s/l out of it. Thanks!
No Idea how long she will be off for and I think if Nicole's baby by some chance does go missing after TomSell stuff starts airing it will be connected to Stefano who may steal it upon returning. Like I have said before though I don't think TomSell will do a whose the daddy because as JS said in recent interviews, EJ knows the baby is his. Could he also take it with Stefano's help? Possibly but I don't think a possible redux of the Sydnapping part deux is what they will use to start off with. Just my thoughts. :) Hmm..the Stefano part is interesting. Didn't Nicole admit to Steffie's "corpse" that the baby is really EJ's?
|
|
|
| |
|
Helpless Romantic
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:55 PM
Post #1154
|
- Posts:
- 3,099
- Group:
- Elite Member
- Member
- #7,292
- Joined:
- August 21, 2010
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of our lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of our lives
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Melrose Place
|
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character. EJ just told Will the other day that he is an opportunist too and that he doesn't do anything out of the goodness of. his heart without it benefiting him. So IMO they are PERFECT for each other in all their scheming glory. :wub:
|
|
|
| |
|
tomsawyer
|
Jun 20 2012, 10:58 PM
Post #1155
|
- Posts:
- 9,886
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #6,766
- Joined:
- May 6, 2010
|
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character. This is accurate and exactly why I think she is a ho. And what's the big deal about Nicole being a ho? To me, she's way more entertaining when she's being a martini-swilling, money-grubbing ho than when she's clutching her belly and fretting about her miracle. I don't give a shit if Nicole is virtuous. I just care whether she's fun to watch.
|
|
|
| |
|
James&AriFan
|
Jun 20 2012, 11:00 PM
Post #1156
|
- Posts:
- 598
- Group:
- Newbies
- Member
- #11,648
- Joined:
- March 9, 2012
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of Our Lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of Our Lives
|
- Helpless Romantic
- Jun 20 2012, 10:55 PM
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character.
EJ just told Will the other day that he is an opportunist too and that he doesn't do anything out of the goodness of. his heart without it benefiting him. So IMO they are PERFECT for each other in all their scheming glory. :wub: you just read my mind! Ejole cut from the same cloth
|
|
|
| |
|
Deleted User
|
Jun 20 2012, 11:02 PM
Post #1157
|
|
Deleted User
|
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character. Well considering the way she was raised being forced into porn and being raped by her father, I find her behavoiur very understandable. I don't think she's ho.
And as for that comment about having millions with Ej, yeah she may have said that, but with Ej I think she just saw that as a plus the real reason she wanted to be with him was because she actually loved him.
|
|
|
| |
|
six
|
Jun 20 2012, 11:04 PM
Post #1158
|
- Posts:
- 13,427
- Group:
- Veteran
- Member
- #1,842
- Joined:
- February 12, 2008
|
- Hopeless_Dreamer
- Jun 20 2012, 10:50 PM
- six
- Jun 20 2012, 10:45 PM
- vettejb
- Jun 20 2012, 05:21 PM
- six
- Jun 20 2012, 01:44 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepeveryone
How does Nicole now sleeping with one man so far since she is seperated from her husband equate to her being a "ho? That action is no less moral than what Sami or Marlena or Kate have done.
There is no arbitrary cut off point before which Nicole's body-bartering no longer counts, and one does not magically stop being a ho, because other people have out-ho'd them. I'm not sure why this argument is so popular. I wouldn't call Nicole a ho for sleeping with Daniel, (although she's skanky for having a one night stand while carrying someone else's baby). She's a ho because she's using her body to manipulate him into doing her bidding.
I don't think Nicole is anymore of a ho/slut then any of the other female characters on this show. I disagree, but even if Kayla, the late Lexie, Maggie, Caroline etc. were all like Nicole, that would just mean they were all hos, not that none of them were.
Thank you, Tomsawyer, ITA. That Nicole is a ho is not a judgment on her. It's just a statement of fact.
Edited by six, Jun 20 2012, 11:05 PM.
|
|
|
| |
|
Helpless Romantic
|
Jun 20 2012, 11:05 PM
Post #1159
|
- Posts:
- 3,099
- Group:
- Elite Member
- Member
- #7,292
- Joined:
- August 21, 2010
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- Days of our lives
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- Days of our lives
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Melrose Place
|
- Hopeless_Dreamer
- Jun 20 2012, 11:02 PM
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character.
Well considering the way she was raised being forced into porn and being raped by her father, I find her behavoiur very understandable. I don't think she's ho. And as for that comment about having millions with Ej, yeah she may have said that, but with Ej I think she just saw that as a plus the real reason she wanted to be with him was because she actually loved him. THIS!! :hail:
|
|
|
| |
|
EJ_SamiFF
|
Jun 20 2012, 11:09 PM
Post #1160
|
- Posts:
- 2,825
- Group:
- Elite Member
- Member
- #11,419
- Joined:
- January 31, 2012
- Mood
- Amused
- Favorite Current Daytime Soap Opera
- General Hospital
- Favorite Soap Opera of All Time
- General Hospital
- Favorite Current Primetime Soap Opera
- Empire
- Favorite Primetime Soap Opera of All Time
- Lost/Buffy the Vampire Slayer
- Twitter ID
- @Cherish_I_Am
|
- Hopeless_Dreamer
- Jun 20 2012, 11:02 PM
- outrageous
- Jun 20 2012, 10:53 PM
Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character.
Well considering the way she was raised being forced into porn and being raped by her father, I find her behavoiur very understandable. I don't think she's ho. And as for that comment about having millions with Ej, yeah she may have said that, but with Ej I think she just saw that as a plus the real reason she wanted to be with him was because she actually loved him. Just becuase she had the life she had when she was younger dosent excuse or negate her adult behavior. She uses her body to get what she wants.
|
|
|
| |
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
|