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Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:36 PM (77,599 Views)
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Jun 21 2012, 10:10 AM
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Bring back Jack!
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^ I don't think Nicole was ever a prostitute (right?). I think the name calling gets justified by bringing up that one porn movie that her father forced her to make. I don't think she's a "ho" or a "slut" or any of the other derogatory names being used to describe her though but that's just me (and I wouldn't call myself a Nicole fan nor do I dislike her).
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Jun 21 2012, 10:14 AM
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That's right, sorry, I was thinking about Kate (she was a former prostitute).
Yeah, I don't think the word "whore" applies to Nicole, nor do I think it's sinful to be one. That's JMO.
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Jun 21 2012, 10:18 AM
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No more kidnapping of babies/children atleast with the Ej/Sami/Nicole/Rafe/etc group... please!
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Jun 21 2012, 10:59 AM
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No more kidnapping of babies/children atleast with the Ej/Sami/Nicole/Rafe/etc group... please! How about we totally split up that group since they don't work. I never seen a group so pimped that suck so badly. Maybe cause there's not one a good headline couple in the bunch.
The Last Blast gang has Shelle. The 90's foursome had Carrie/Austin. A group needs a rootable couple at its center. Army Wives has taught me that. :)
Nicole should be in a business storyline. She's a schemer. Too much focus has been put on her looking for love. And love always came second for Nicole. Sami has a business storyline that has potential. She should be trying to build a life. What exactly is she doing now? Rafe should be involved in some cop shennanigans. And EJ needs to be in junior high.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:12 AM
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MarDar, TomSell, heck Guza. None of it matters, what matters is what NBC is telling them. MarDar have said that NBC controlled them. NBC is going to control TomSell and who ever is after TomSell. In 3 months, Lucas won't suddenly have a major story, Rafe won't be backburned, EJ and Will won't not be interacting. I really don't know what people expect to see suddenly in a snap between MarDar and TomSell's transition considering the editing now is already in transition. - Quote:
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No one is sticking his or her heads in the sand. To me the anvils are obvious which is why I pretty confidently said MarDar were writing for Ejami, and I didn't mean immediately....I meant building towards something for later down the road. Some might say MarDar's Ejami stuff, in addition to the OCC and all-over the place writing, was a reason for the firing, others might say the anvils weren't good enough and higher-ups wanted to move things along. I really have no idea what is happening behind the scenes to speak for any writing regime or tv executive.
But anvils are just that - signs that hint that something might happen, but nothing clear-cut, unequivocal and declarative just yet. I don't think Lexie saying Ej and Sami should be together seals any kind of a deal. It's a big juicy anvil that, were I an Ejami fan, I'd probably be all over. But it doesn't mean anything is set in stone. It could be a red herring. It could be any number of things. Even when events that you think might seal the deal happen -- weddings, births, etc. -- that is never the case it seems. So I still maintain that we can't know anything until we see it, and even then, events and history on Days are funny fluid and changeable sorts of things.
If the roads the writers are on isn't the road they want to be on, then the scenes will be cut. Simple as that. The new writers are editing to suit their own needs and vision. People see anvils in lots of things that are random. However a major character of Lexie being dead and her last words of wisdom for EJ isn't just any anvil. It's huge. Had she said it about EJ and Nicole, EJ and Will, EJ and Melanie. It would be the same thing. If the scene is cut, that's the answer right there. If the scene plays, then there's one road that character is on.
Here's the thing with anvils. Remember a few months ago when we were getting anvils every other day that EJ was going to be John's son? Then we started getting anvils that Lucas was going to be Ian's son, but then we heard that Ian was supposed to EJ's father. Even moreso, these are anvils from MarDar, not TomSell. I think there's probably something coming up with EJami, but whether that something will be positive or negative or part of MarDar's story or part of TomSell's story, I don't know. I know what my guess is, and my guess is based on just as much and just as reliable information as your guess. Nobody knows what's going to happen, and at some point we're all going to have to stop pretending we do. The show isn't speaking. We.Don't.Know. I think that had more to do with MarDar not knowing how to tell a story. They start something and then poop out in the middle only to visit it for about two seconds a month later. Maybe they were trying to trick the audience so that they could surprise them later and then you were suppose to remember anvils dropped ages ago :shrug: I don't now and don't care just glad they are gone. What they wanted doesn't much matter anyway we all have to wait and see AGAIN. Maybe Tomsell will write their own stories maybe they will write NBC's all I know is it better be good.
Oh on another note all this talk about ho this and ho that makes me think of Ludacris
You doin ho activities With ho tendencies Hos are your friends, hoes are your enemies
Cant turn a ho into a housewife Hos dont act right
I got that song stuck in my head now lol I loved that Nicole grew up and stopped being a ho but now they are regressing her character with dr. orangeglow :shame:
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Jun 21 2012, 11:13 AM
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Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character.
Well considering the way she was raised being forced into porn and being raped by her father, I find her behavoiur very understandable. I don't think she's ho. And as for that comment about having millions with Ej, yeah she may have said that, but with Ej I think she just saw that as a plus the real reason she wanted to be with him was because she actually loved him.
Just becuase she had the life she had when she was younger dosent excuse her adult behavior. She uses her body to get what she wants.
I can say the same for EJ. I have read so many times Stefano's upbringing of EJ being used as an excuse for EJ's behaviour as an adult and the choices he has made. So IMO that is just one more connection that EJOLE have where no one can understand them like each other. :wub: And if Boobs Gene Brady can still use "My mama does not care for me like she does my sisters, wha", to guide her in her adult life, anyone can fall back on their childhood as justification. And I don't know about y'all, but Nicole had it much harder than Boobs.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:23 AM
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As long as Daniel is on canvas, he needs a mate. I would prefer Billie, but am not interested in watching a SL for them? Nicole can be paired with better choices. Daniel is clearly the odd man out. Danloe is the only SL I could see him, as long as he stuffs his ego and self righteous attitude in the toilet. I really wanted Parker to be his, Daniel needs his own family, not running around Salem trying to steal someonelse's.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:24 AM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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As far as I am concerned all of this is speculation except for the actual spoilers of this week. Lysie is right, we do not even know if Stefano is alive. I will stand my ground, its rather cold to want someone to lose their child, real or imagined. I am over the ho thing, it has lost its sting bc the word is thrown around so much. So I'm going with how I was feeling earlier, if its in the spoilers, if it plays out on my tv, then I choose to watch or not to watch as is my choice. I refuse to watch any ejami crapola or any Dicole sex. I will only watch clips of Lumi Ejole and Jarlena once they hit you tube. I have taken DAYs off my dvr. Its a sad thing how a once fav show and fav characters are being destroyed.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:26 AM
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- Jun 20 2012, 11:47 PM
^^ Well, Rafe 2 doesn't count, and I think the majority of us would agree on that. She was MARRIED to Rafe. So, IMO those two are x'd off that ho list.
I can't excuse EJ, however, she WAS married to him before. And she was single when she boinked Lucas. So, there is your 3rd x'd off the ho list.
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's a healthy and active sex life. Well, maybe not HEALTHY. But I don't think it means she is a HO. Now, if all those had been inthe same week, or month. Thats another story. AND Sami didn't screw any of these men to GET SOMETHING FROM THEM. It was either lovemaking or just plain sex. No manipulations, no intentions to get something as a result.
AND this is the first time Sami has behaved this way. Nicole has a history of screwing men for money, or for whatever trips her trigger. Hey, not trqashing her, I like the character of Nicole. it is the way she is written,and it fits her. how many people were most upset about the grief sex becasue Sami cheated on Rafe, and although Sami is a lot of things, a cheater she is not. She doesn't cheat, and she isn't "loose". (wasn't). So, no. Ho isn't for Sami, IMO, but does fit Nicole.
Sorry for unpopular opinion, but great for debate!
If you give your boyfriend some because he washed the dishes, you are a ho if you are saying its done to gain some benefit. If you give him some on Monday and Friday because he took you to Paris, when you usually only do it on Friday you are a ho. If you give him some because he pays to have your car repaired, you are a ho. Ho, ho, ho, all day long every day!!!!
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Jun 21 2012, 11:29 AM
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Nicole's alwasy been a "ho". Money is the only thing she ever wanted. She slept with almost every man in town, dumped the love of her life for 5 million dollars, and even with EJ, I sort of remember her telling Dr. Baker that she was going to be a Dimera and have millions. Nicole written in character is an opportunist who uses her body and manipulations to get what she wants. Unfortunately her body is her number one choice of manipulation, and although I don't particularly like the word "ho", I can see how some would use it to describe her character.
Well considering the way she was raised being forced into porn and being raped by her father, I find her behavoiur very understandable. I don't think she's ho. And as for that comment about having millions with Ej, yeah she may have said that, but with Ej I think she just saw that as a plus the real reason she wanted to be with him was because she actually loved him.
I don't think she's ever loved EJ. She loved his money, power and good looks.
I think Nicole did have loving feelings for EJ, but that EJ never really loved Nicole. Even James Scott said in his interview with the soap series that EJ has has 2 significant love interests- Sami & Taylor. EJ has had loving feelings for Nicole, but has never been in love with her. Nicole is just a placeholder for EJ for when he's feeling lonely. Ejole have had about 4 attempts at a romance and every time he chooses another woman over Nicole. Nicole should be with someone who makes her feel like a priority..and someone that she has better chemistry with. I'm excited to see the Daniel/Nicole sex this week! But think/hope she'll be with either Brady or Eric Brady this Fall. Right now I support BRICOLE, but will have to see scenes between Ari & the new actor for Eric. :smile: Actually JS said his main two love interest were Nicole and Sami. I've always saw Ej's realtionsip with Sami as more of an obsession then anything. Taylor was a stupid fantasy. Actually Nicole is the only one out of the three that I actually buy he loved.
As for shipping Nicole with someone who puts her first, Daniel isn't or else he wouldn't be screwing while she's going through a high risk pregnancy and Brady didn't he mainly used Nicole for sex. Now Eric did, but I'd like to see the chemistry first before I decide to ship them. I think an Eric/Nicole/Ej could be interesting if written right though I'll probably always want Ejole. :wub:
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Jun 21 2012, 11:29 AM
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Nicole is going to do it again, to use EJ again. She is not just trying to keep him from the child, she is going to try to put him away.
When women do sexual things for money, Millions, rich husbands, getting even with another woman, the word "ho" just fits them so very well! I'd rather marry/hump a tycoon than a truck driver. I think I would rather my daughters marry/hump a tycoon rather than a truck driver. The hump is the same. The money is the bonus.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:31 AM
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Nicole is going to do it again, to use EJ again. She is not just trying to keep him from the child, she is going to try to put him away.
When women do sexual things for money, Millions, rich husbands, getting even with another woman, the word "ho" just fits them so very well! How 'bout "lucky ho"?
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Jun 21 2012, 11:32 AM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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:popcorn: :soda: this thread is better then the darn show it prolly has more views then Days and more of an audience
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Jun 21 2012, 11:34 AM
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Now don't come whoopin' my ass at the grocery store cause I picked on your fav on here!
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^^ Hahahaha. Well, Don't see how that is related to what I was saying...but I'll go with it.
To use your example:
Rafe does dishes... sami is thankful, and not so tired now, so they have sex/make love/whatever. Rafe did the dishes, and in response, he gets sex. Yay for Rafe. Yay for Sami (I guess)
That do not make a ho. That is called marriage.
HOWEVER: Sami wants dishes done. Hey Rafe- If I have sex/make love to you- Will you do dishes for me? That's a little manipulative, but not so much a ho. LOL
HOWEVER: Nicole needs a DNA change, finds a horny orange doc, and kisses him to coerce him to change results. Then fucks him later to keep him silent.
Hmmm, yeah, that could be a HO.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:35 AM
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MarDar, TomSell, heck Guza. None of it matters, what matters is what NBC is telling them. MarDar have said that NBC controlled them. NBC is going to control TomSell and who ever is after TomSell. In 3 months, Lucas won't suddenly have a major story, Rafe won't be backburned, EJ and Will won't not be interacting. I really don't know what people expect to see suddenly in a snap between MarDar and TomSell's transition considering the editing now is already in transition. - Quote:
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No one is sticking his or her heads in the sand. To me the anvils are obvious which is why I pretty confidently said MarDar were writing for Ejami, and I didn't mean immediately....I meant building towards something for later down the road. Some might say MarDar's Ejami stuff, in addition to the OCC and all-over the place writing, was a reason for the firing, others might say the anvils weren't good enough and higher-ups wanted to move things along. I really have no idea what is happening behind the scenes to speak for any writing regime or tv executive.
But anvils are just that - signs that hint that something might happen, but nothing clear-cut, unequivocal and declarative just yet. I don't think Lexie saying Ej and Sami should be together seals any kind of a deal. It's a big juicy anvil that, were I an Ejami fan, I'd probably be all over. But it doesn't mean anything is set in stone. It could be a red herring. It could be any number of things. Even when events that you think might seal the deal happen -- weddings, births, etc. -- that is never the case it seems. So I still maintain that we can't know anything until we see it, and even then, events and history on Days are funny fluid and changeable sorts of things.
If the roads the writers are on isn't the road they want to be on, then the scenes will be cut. Simple as that. The new writers are editing to suit their own needs and vision. People see anvils in lots of things that are random. However a major character of Lexie being dead and her last words of wisdom for EJ isn't just any anvil. It's huge. Had she said it about EJ and Nicole, EJ and Will, EJ and Melanie. It would be the same thing. If the scene is cut, that's the answer right there. If the scene plays, then there's one road that character is on.
Here's the thing with anvils. Remember a few months ago when we were getting anvils every other day that EJ was going to be John's son? Then we started getting anvils that Lucas was going to be Ian's son, but then we heard that Ian was supposed to EJ's father. Even moreso, these are anvils from MarDar, not TomSell. I think there's probably something coming up with EJami, but whether that something will be positive or negative or part of MarDar's story or part of TomSell's story, I don't know. I know what my guess is, and my guess is based on just as much and just as reliable information as your guess. Nobody knows what's going to happen, and at some point we're all going to have to stop pretending we do. The show isn't speaking. We.Don't.Know.
I think that had more to do with MarDar not knowing how to tell a story. They start something and then poop out in the middle only to visit it for about two seconds a month later. Maybe they were trying to trick the audience so that they could surprise them later and then you were suppose to remember anvils dropped ages ago :shrug: I don't now and don't care just glad they are gone. What they wanted doesn't much matter anyway we all have to wait and see AGAIN. Maybe Tomsell will write their own stories maybe they will write NBC's all I know is it better be good. Oh on another note all this talk about ho this and ho that makes me think of Ludacris You doin ho activities With ho tendencies Hos are your friends, hoes are your enemies Cant turn a ho into a housewife Hos dont act right I got that song stuck in my head now lol I loved that Nicole grew up and stopped being a ho but now they are regressing her character with dr. orangeglow :shame: Luda must watch Boobs Brady on DOOL.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:36 AM
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I love this place! So much better than DOOL!
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Jun 21 2012, 11:39 AM
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No more kidnapping of babies/children atleast with the Ej/Sami/Nicole/Rafe/etc group... please! I dont want a baby story with EJ/Sami/Nicole/Rafe period.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:42 AM
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^^ Hahahaha. Well, Don't see how that is related to what I was saying...but I'll go with it.
To use your example:
Rafe does dishes... sami is thankful, and not so tired now, so they have sex/make love/whatever. Rafe did the dishes, and in response, he gets sex. Yay for Rafe. Yay for Sami (I guess)
That do not make a ho. That is called marriage.
HOWEVER: Sami wants dishes done. Hey Rafe- If I have sex/make love to you- Will you do dishes for me? That's a little manipulative, but not so much a ho. LOL
HOWEVER: Nicole needs a DNA change, finds a horny orange doc, and kisses him to coerce him to change results. Then fucks him later to keep him silent.
Hmmm, yeah, that could be a HO. I thought Nicole already manipulated the DNA results and Daniel knows it. She does not need to hump him now. She just has to remind him that he is complicit (sp) in that fact and that his career could be in jeopardy. She has not had sex in a while. Maybe she just needs sex.
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Jun 21 2012, 11:43 AM
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Now don't come whoopin' my ass at the grocery store cause I picked on your fav on here!
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^^ She probably does. I don't blame her.
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As long as Daniel is on canvas, he needs a mate. I would prefer Billie, but am not interested in watching a SL for them? Nicole can be paired with better choices. Daniel is clearly the odd man out. Danloe is the only SL I could see him, as long as he stuffs his ego and self righteous attitude in the toilet. I really wanted Parker to be his, Daniel needs his own family, not running around Salem trying to steal someonelse's. Its really sad despite daniel character is not working and they still give chance after chance but yet refuse to even try write for long fanfavorites
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