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Spoilers for the week of July 2nd; *updated 6/26*
Topic Started: Jun 21 2012, 12:56 PM (30,989 Views)
DayDreamer
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Fan of EJ+ABBY!

Ejami79
Jun 25 2012, 10:36 AM
Will told EJ he was impressed with how EJ usually gets what he wants- a sign of admiration
EJ doesn't get what he wants all the time. He never got Sami, did he? LOL :P
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SocRMum1
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Hologram
Jun 25 2012, 01:48 PM
Ejami79
Jun 25 2012, 10:36 AM
Will told EJ he was impressed with how EJ usually gets what he wants- a sign of admiration
EJ doesn't get what he wants all the time. He never got Sami, did he? LOL :P
I agree with you...but considering what Will witnessed last Fall I'm not sure he would agree with us. :laugh:
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WGuyMd35


I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ. Yes, EJ is straight and that doesn't have to change - straight men are known to fool-around with other men at times. EJ could bascially use Will for the sex, and Will puts up with it because of his unreciprocated crush/lust/love. The ultimate in controlling someone. Gay man in love with straight man. Oldest story in the book, but would work perfectly for these two characters and create amazing soapy drama and fallout.
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Sami,of course she's upset about Carrie being preggers,cuz everything has to be about her and her alone.
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Hologram
Jun 25 2012, 01:42 PM
supercool74
Jun 25 2012, 01:54 AM
Just to add...they would have to come up with something really interesting for Will and Lucas to do to spend more time together. I liked the idea of Lucas and Will (and maybe Sami) working together to bring EJ down or something along those lines. Otherwise any father/son scenes would get old after a while. There has to be a story, not just hanging out together.
I get the appeal of doing that,... its just that EJ is now completely alone. Nobodys is on his side or consider him as a friend now that Lexie and Stefano is gone,.. If everyone + Will, Sami and Lucas would go against him. At one point EJ would crack.

That guy has been in so much pain that I am starting to feel pity for the guy. He loved Sami for years, always getting rejected but also getting a hint of a chance between them, Rafe always screwing things for him. His father was against him and did not exactly always help sami and EJs case. Nicole basically have always messed things up for EJ, intensionally or not.

I don't count Chad as true Dimera.

I would get Lucas and Will maybe try to do something,.. but yeah.
Yeah, I personally don't really care if they go after EJ or not. I'm just saying that Will and Lucas need something to do if they are going to have scenes together. A lot of the LUMI fans are up in arms over Will and EJ having this relationship and so they want equal time for Lucas. I understand the reasoning, I just don't see a story. This is just a scenerio for that to happen. Otherwise I just don't see much Lucas/Will happening other than the occasional family outing. They can only do so much of that before :sleep:
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WGuyMd35
Jun 25 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ. Yes, EJ is straight and that doesn't have to change - straight men are known to fool-around with other men at times. EJ could bascially use Will for the sex, and Will puts up with it because of his unreciprocated crush/lust/love. The ultimate in controlling someone. Gay man in love with straight man. Oldest story in the book, but would work perfectly for these two characters and create amazing soapy drama and fallout.
I don't know any straight men who fools around with other men..that's a contradiction..
Edited by EJ_SamiFF, Jun 25 2012, 02:00 PM.
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LucasHortonFan
Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

I am definetly on the
Sonny and Will train. As for a Ej and Will sexual thing, gross! I do not ever want to see that bc if I do then I will quit watching. Thanks God I dont think Days is that stupid to try that.
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WGuyMd35
Jun 25 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ. Yes, EJ is straight and that doesn't have to change - straight men are known to fool-around with other men at times. EJ could bascially use Will for the sex, and Will puts up with it because of his unreciprocated crush/lust/love. The ultimate in controlling someone. Gay man in love with straight man. Oldest story in the book, but would work perfectly for these two characters and create amazing soapy drama and fallout.
I'm not saying I wouldn't want to see it...because :omg: :popcorn: but it would never happen. I don't think EJ would ever actually have sex with William, but I think he could totally use any feelings Will has and use them. I'm pretty sure EJ is not above flirting with Will to get what he wants...unfortunately it isn't sex with Will that he wants. :D
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WGuyMd35


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I don't think EJ would ever actually have sex with William, but I think he could totally use any feelings Will has and use them. I'm pretty sure EJ is not above flirting with Will to get what he wants...unfortunately it isn't sex with Will that he wants.


Agreed. I'm not saying they have to show "love" scenes - nor would they have the guts to do it- but I think they should take advantage of the potential drama of gay man in lust with a straight guy. However EJ takes advantage of that crush, it's worth exploring.
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I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ


That would be gross. I never ever want to see that ever. Will working for EJ as a mentor/ee is one thing that would be totally
different.

I like the complex work relationship of Will and EJ, but that's far as it should ever go. Will is the brother and sister of EJ's kids.
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Ej_Sami
Jun 25 2012, 01:59 PM
WGuyMd35
Jun 25 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ. Yes, EJ is straight and that doesn't have to change - straight men are known to fool-around with other men at times. EJ could bascially use Will for the sex, and Will puts up with it because of his unreciprocated crush/lust/love. The ultimate in controlling someone. Gay man in love with straight man. Oldest story in the book, but would work perfectly for these two characters and create amazing soapy drama and fallout.
I don't know any straight men who fools around with other men..that's a contradiction..
I'm sure it goes without saying that how people identify or classify themselves in public does not always match what they do behind closed doors, especially with straight men.

As for a sexual relationship between EJ and Will, um, hell no. If EJ hadn't fathered two children by Will's mother, then I might be able to get on board with it. Relationships like that might work for Woody Allen; but I couldn't support it between these two characters. Besides, even though EJ was raised partially in Britain, that doesn't make him bisexual, even if some people confuse the two.
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annie21


All this talk about "hurt puppy dog" looks and being "smacked around" and an unbalanced "bullying" relationship makes me think of Spike and Chester.


And we all know how those two ended up, don't we?


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WGuyMd35


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Will is the brother and sister of EJ's kids.


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If EJ hadn't fathered two children by Will's mother, then I might be able to get on board with it. Relationships like that might work for Woody Allen; but I couldn't support it between these two characters.


Exactly the reason they should go there - Drama. It is wrong on so many levels. This show plays it too safe all the time, which is why it is boring!
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WGuyMd35
Jun 25 2012, 06:54 PM
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Will is the brother and sister of EJ's kids.


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If EJ hadn't fathered two children by Will's mother, then I might be able to get on board with it. Relationships like that might work for Woody Allen; but I couldn't support it between these two characters.


Exactly the reason they should go there - Drama. It is wrong on so many levels. This show plays it too safe all the time, which is why it is boring!
Well, it's not like they themselves are related. I've seen worse happen on other shows. But they would NEVER go there anyway. NEVER.
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Days has already gone there. Julie isn't Hope's mother. She's Hope's half sister, who was in a love triangle with her mother Addy over Doug's affections.

That said, I'd rather see EJ/Will stay firmly in the area of innuendo and see Wilson proceed. Not that I don't think EJ would sleep with a guy if it suited him or suited his purposes, I just think it's not right for the story right now. A few months ago, I might have felt differently, but now I'd rather just have Will gain the power and flirt mercilessly with EJ while he wields it.
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Ej_Sami
Jun 25 2012, 01:59 PM
WGuyMd35
Jun 25 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ. Yes, EJ is straight and that doesn't have to change - straight men are known to fool-around with other men at times. EJ could bascially use Will for the sex, and Will puts up with it because of his unreciprocated crush/lust/love. The ultimate in controlling someone. Gay man in love with straight man. Oldest story in the book, but would work perfectly for these two characters and create amazing soapy drama and fallout.
I don't know any straight men who fools around with other men..that's a contradiction..
I don't, either. If a man "fools around" with other men, he is not "straight". He is bi-sexual or gay.

Call it bullying; call it a "father-son" relationship, call it love; but EJ smacking Will around and making him say, "How high?" is not pleasant to see and does not look a whit like mentoring. It looks like a stronger person pushing a weaker one around. Maybe if EJ did not have such a penchant for choking women but hiring out his violence against men it would not seem so much like bullying.

I don't like seeing Will take it and hold out hope that it's all to take the man who has decimated his family down to the ground.
Edited by eugenie, Jun 25 2012, 07:37 PM.
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supercool74
Jun 25 2012, 01:59 PM
Hologram
Jun 25 2012, 01:42 PM
supercool74
Jun 25 2012, 01:54 AM
Just to add...they would have to come up with something really interesting for Will and Lucas to do to spend more time together. I liked the idea of Lucas and Will (and maybe Sami) working together to bring EJ down or something along those lines. Otherwise any father/son scenes would get old after a while. There has to be a story, not just hanging out together.
I get the appeal of doing that,... its just that EJ is now completely alone. Nobodys is on his side or consider him as a friend now that Lexie and Stefano is gone,.. If everyone + Will, Sami and Lucas would go against him. At one point EJ would crack.

That guy has been in so much pain that I am starting to feel pity for the guy. He loved Sami for years, always getting rejected but also getting a hint of a chance between them, Rafe always screwing things for him. His father was against him and did not exactly always help sami and EJs case. Nicole basically have always messed things up for EJ, intensionally or not.

I don't count Chad as true Dimera.

I would get Lucas and Will maybe try to do something,.. but yeah.
Yeah, I personally don't really care if they go after EJ or not. I'm just saying that Will and Lucas need something to do if they are going to have scenes together. A lot of the LUMI fans are up in arms over Will and EJ having this relationship and so they want equal time for Lucas. I understand the reasoning, I just don't see a story. This is just a scenerio for that to happen. Otherwise I just don't see much Lucas/Will happening other than the occasional family outing. They can only do so much of that before :sleep:
If the writers can make up this fake ass out of the blue mentoring relationship between Ej and Will then they can come up with a storyline for will and Lucas, who had a strong relationship that's being downplayed now. It's not that hard to do.
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Predominantly straight people can be incidentally homosexual. Not sure if that applies to this situation though.
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eugenie
Jun 25 2012, 07:35 PM
Ej_Sami
Jun 25 2012, 01:59 PM
WGuyMd35
Jun 25 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I would love to see a sexual relationship between Will and EJ. Yes, EJ is straight and that doesn't have to change - straight men are known to fool-around with other men at times. EJ could bascially use Will for the sex, and Will puts up with it because of his unreciprocated crush/lust/love. The ultimate in controlling someone. Gay man in love with straight man. Oldest story in the book, but would work perfectly for these two characters and create amazing soapy drama and fallout.
I don't know any straight men who fools around with other men..that's a contradiction..
I don't, either. If a man "fools around" with other men, he is not "straight". He is bi-sexual or gay.

Call it bullying; call it a "father-son" relationship, call it love; but EJ smacking Will around and making him say, "How high?" is not pleasant to see and does not look a whit like mentoring. It looks like a stronger person pushing a weaker one around. Maybe if EJ did not have such a penchant for choking women but hiring out his violence against men it would not seem so much like bullying.

I don't like seeing Will take it and hold out hope that it's all to take the man who has decimated his family down to the ground.
Will loves the attention that he gets from EJ and enjoys the well developed relationship that has formed with him.

Will is not weak and so he can see that EJ is not bullying him. It would be so sad if Will thought that EJ was bullying him. Could you imagine Will going to Marlena & complaining about how EJ tapped his with a binder & that EJ said some mean things to him LOL! It would be pathetic for Will to complain about EJ.
Will is a loose cannon and needs some discipline and tough love.

Everyone treats Will like a Saint. People are always defending or protecting Will, which is why he is now so impulsive & reactionary. He's never had any guidance. No one understands Will like the way that EJ does, in that EJ recognizes Will's dark side. It's clear that EJ cares about Will and is trying to help Will use his qualities in a good way. Otherwise Will would go back to crying, having tons of anger outbursts, trying to shoot people, or whatever else.

Will is happy when he works for EJ, and if Will is happy, then I'm happy :smile:


Edited by Ireland98, Jun 25 2012, 10:20 PM.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

elci525
Jun 25 2012, 10:32 AM
JamesScott_19
Jun 25 2012, 10:24 AM
elci525
Jun 25 2012, 10:21 AM
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We will have to agree to disagree because I don't see any physical bullying or Will doing anything that he does not wants to do.


Didn't say Will was doing something he didn't want to do, although there are probably complex layers affecting that too. But that the physical stuff was ever there bothers me and I don't think it should be ignored when looking at the whole scope that is the all-over-the-place EJill dynamic thus far. EJ sure looked like a bully to me in those instances.
I think that Ej was just messing around with him, I don't think that meant he was bullying him. I don't define a bully as someone that can defend himself, Will has defended himself many times against Ej, not to mention him getting the upper hand coming soon, that does not classify bullying IMO.

I didn't see it as just "messing" with Will. And EJ was using physical force to make a point, on someone smaller and most likely weaker. That is never OK my book - EJ can get by perfectly just using his words and playing mind games. I feel like Will hasn't really defended himself against EJ - not really aside from a few snarky comments. That Will is gaining the upper hand now doesn't mean those previous instances didn't happen. And it doesn't change what they meant for me. But I am thrilled for Will for gaining the upper hand (although what that means and for how long remains to be seen); I have been wanting to see the tides change for awhile, esp. given some of EJ's treatment of Will. I'd like to see the power dynamic evens out a little bit.
We are never going to see eye to eye cause I don't see any forcing on either side.
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