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Spoilers for the week of July 2nd; *updated 6/26*
Topic Started: Jun 21 2012, 12:56 PM (30,992 Views)
Dolly


I get the feeling that the blackmailing of each other is kind of like an in joke between the 2 of them.
Up to this point, it seems that neither wants to hurt the other, or see anyone else hurt them.
I am interested to see where this is going.
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Ejami79
Jun 24 2012, 04:11 PM
The EJILL debate is hilarious. I think EJILL is so popular because their relationship has been well written and developed. The changing dynamics make sense. Will not only loves the perks & the power, but also the independence that EJ provided for him. EJ treats Will like an adult. Due to his association with EJ, Will has become more confident and happy. Will said at first he didn't want to work for EJ, but came to love it. I love that there was a transition from "hate" to "love" and it makes sense that Will was so upset when EJ fired him. Will had a lot going on in his life and EJ provided an outlet for Will. Will benefitted greatly from his association with EJ and I think EJ also enjoys the kinship. Plus Will has a natural dark side to him and with EJ he is able to tap into that side a bit more. I love dark Will too.

They threaten/blackmail each other to try to get more control, but there's also a dependency between the two. This is why EJILL have a complex relationship- there's different layers. I love that you don't know what's going to happen next or if there's going to be scenes where they're getting along, working together, scheming, threatening each other, or whatever. You know what you're going to get when Will has scenes with most other characters. So the EJILL dynamic is just more engaging to watch. I don't want to see EJILL get along all the time, though I enjoy the tender moments and when they're working together, but I want to see some angst too. I can see more betrayals, fights, and blackmail. But at the same time, see them supporting and protecting each other.

I could be wrong but I get the impression that haters of EJILL are basing their opinions based on other relationships. Lumis are jealous of the father/son type bond between EJILL, WilSon fans either want all of Will's storylines revolved around Sonny or don't like that the EJILL chemistry gets so much attention, and both Lumi & Ejoles see EJILL as an EJAMI connection. Does that sound about right or no?

I view EJILL as their own entity/dynamic and have a great consistent storyline that is fun to watch. I love that there's so much buzz and support for EJILL too! I hope Days is smart enough to keep writing for this popular and awesome dynamic duo!



Nope, I see you got it all wrong...I'm an EJole fan and why would I need for them to have a connection through Will, if they already have one through Johnny and Syd?

Some of us don't see the EJill story you described. I see it as starting out having potential but like every story the past year or so, crumbles on the weight of poor follow through and schizophrenic behavior by both EJ and Will.

Oh, I just love the posts where everyone is told by someone their reasons for disliking something. :sarcasm:
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Keith
Jun 24 2012, 05:32 PM
EJill is potentially great. The chemistry between CM and JS is explosive. As with everything on this show, however, the writing is throwing dynamic character under the bus to capitalize on that chemistry. If the writers utilized the chemistry correctly, it would appeal to more of the audience because there be more truth in it. The show spends so much time forcing chemistry that doesn't exist or squandering chemistry. Chemistry alone is never enough. Just like love alone is never enough. The audience has to understand why characters are interacting. Will wanting to get back at EJ makes sense. Being sorry that he betrayed him the first does not. The writers didn't build a believable bridge between on Will felt about EJ before and how feels about EJ now.
But I understand where the writers are going, I am not even focusing on the chemistry that they have. I think it is a nice change that they are working together, it is something new and exciting. I see a lot of potential with them, it is not random,neither it is unbelievable to me.
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Jun 24 2012, 05:36 PM
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I also do not think that their relationship is complex. It's puzzling but not complex. This blackmail story started with Will hating EJ which was in character, and believable after all the things that EJ has done to his family, so what changed. Is his affections so easily bought with a free apartment, car and a job. Maybe he has a crush on EJ with his good looks, smooth talk and all that money.


It's been said over and over on show and in interviews that it's the power. Will grew up bounced from home to home in the middle of all his parental drama and romantic issues.

Him craving to hold the power and be in charge is a typical response. He wants to be like EJ. He likes the money, the perks
and the power EJ holds. He doesn't care about the blackmail, he's willingly wanting to work for EJ anyways because he wants to stick with him and be like him.

For Lucas, are there conversations that EJ and Will have that I think that Will could have with his father? I.E. the alibi conversation where Will told EJ where he was and EJ encouraged him to go to the police. Yes. But they're not building that relationship, they're building the one Will has with EJ.

As for the story not making sense, what story on this show does make sense? Everyone bounces around on a daily basis all over the place. Hope's married to Bo, Hope's married to John, Hope's being Gina, then they're all locked in a safe house and until last week the entire Almania plot was forgotten. Roman turns Stefano's case over to RAFE who Roman declares as unbias. When Rafe's claiming to be the father of EJ's wife's baby. Is Will's stepfather and is still married to Sami so is related to half the suspects.
If you want a show to make sense, this isn't it.
No, none of the stories make sense. I complain about them too. They haven't been pulled out special to whine about.
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Jun 24 2012, 04:48 PM
Ejami79
Jun 24 2012, 04:11 PM
The EJILL debate is hilarious. I think EJILL is so popular because their relationship has been well written and developed. The changing dynamics make sense. Will not only loves the perks & the power, but also the independence that EJ provided for him. EJ treats Will like an adult. Due to his association with EJ, Will has become more confident and happy. Will said at first he didn't want to work for EJ, but came to love it. I love that there was a transition from "hate" to "love" and it makes sense that Will was so upset when EJ fired him. Will had a lot going on in his life and EJ provided an outlet for Will. Will benefitted greatly from his association with EJ and I think EJ also enjoys the kinship. Plus Will has a natural dark side to him and with EJ he is able to tap into that side a bit more. I love dark Will too.

They threaten/blackmail each other to try to get more control, but there's also a dependency between the two. This is why EJILL have a complex relationship- there's different layers. I love that you don't know what's going to happen next or if there's going to be scenes where they're getting along, working together, scheming, threatening each other, or whatever. You know what you're going to get when Will has scenes with most other characters. So the EJILL dynamic is just more engaging to watch. I don't want to see EJILL get along all the time, though I enjoy the tender moments and when they're working together, but I want to see some angst too. I can see more betrayals, fights, and blackmail. But at the same time, see them supporting and protecting each other.

I could be wrong but I get the impression that haters of EJILL are basing their opinions based on other relationships. Lumis are jealous of the father/son type bond between EJILL, WilSon fans either want all of Will's storylines revolved around Sonny or don't like that the EJILL chemistry gets so much attention, and both Lumi & Ejoles see EJILL as an EJAMI connection. Does that sound about right or no?

I view EJILL as their own entity/dynamic and have a great consistent storyline that is fun to watch. I love that there's so much buzz and support for EJILL too! I hope Days is smart enough to keep writing for this popular and awesome dynamic duo!



Your impression is wrong. I've given my reasons. You may not agre with them but my opinion is as valid as yours.
I agree and enjoy reading differing opinions. Those were just some impressions I had in regards to why fanbases might not like EJILL and said I could be wrong. I also said I think the EJILL debate is hilarious and so I enjoy that people have different views of what they like or dislike about EJILL.
I love EJILL and think everything about their relationship is great!
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Jun 24 2012, 05:51 PM
Alex: Caustins story was rewritten? For the better?

It does matter a little cause I don't want Caustin bonding over their child after hearing their child heart beat then after that Carrie tells Rafe she isn't sure she isn't sure she can't stay with Austin.. Ya know? IF this has to happen and Carrie tells Rafe this it better be BEFORE Caustin bond.
Yes, they were written out of the show and leave TOGETHER!
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Alex: thence that makes me feel a little better knowing Caustin leave together with their child.

I still would love to know what makes them decide to leave?
And of course wanna know how this whole Carrie telling Rafe she isn't sure she can stay with Austin play out. I just pray to the heavens it's before Caustin bond over their child.
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Jun 24 2012, 05:36 PM
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I also do not think that their relationship is complex. It's puzzling but not complex. This blackmail story started with Will hating EJ which was in character, and believable after all the things that EJ has done to his family, so what changed. Is his affections so easily bought with a free apartment, car and a job. Maybe he has a crush on EJ with his good looks, smooth talk and all that money.


It's been said over and over on show and in interviews that it's the power. Will grew up bounced from home to home in the middle of all his parental drama and romantic issues.

Him craving to hold the power and be in charge is a typical response. He wants to be like EJ. He likes the money, the perks
and the power EJ holds. He doesn't care about the blackmail, he's willingly wanting to work for EJ anyways because he wants to stick with him and be like him.

For Lucas, are there conversations that EJ and Will have that I think that Will could have with his father? I.E. the alibi conversation where Will told EJ where he was and EJ encouraged him to go to the police. Yes. But they're not building that relationship, they're building the one Will has with EJ.

As for the story not making sense, what story on this show does make sense? Everyone bounces around on a daily basis all over the place. Hope's married to Bo, Hope's married to John, Hope's being Gina, then they're all locked in a safe house and until last week the entire Almania plot was forgotten. Roman turns Stefano's case over to RAFE who Roman declares as unbias. When Rafe's claiming to be the father of EJ's wife's baby. Is Will's stepfather and is still married to Sami so is related to half the suspects.
If you want a show to make sense, this isn't it.
If Will is all about Power, the money and perks and becoming like EJ, then I don't particularly like this version of Will. It would have been more admirable if he remained loyal to his family and not want to become like the man who have done them so much wrong.

I am aware that a lot of the stories makes no sense. It's been talked about that characters are written out of character, doing things that they would not normally do. The way they write these stories is part of the reason that people stop watching the show, so it is important for the writers to pay more attention to details, and how they continue to write the characters. I do want a show that makes sense, and I want Days to write stories that do.

EJ and Will is just another story that started out making sense and now, no longer does and because of that I am no longer enjoying them.

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Ejami79
Jun 24 2012, 04:11 PM
I could be wrong but I get the impression that haters of EJILL are basing their opinions based on other relationships. Lumis are jealous of the father/son type bond between EJILL, WilSon fans either want all of Will's storylines revolved around Sonny or don't like that the EJILL chemistry gets so much attention, and both Lumi & Ejoles see EJILL as an EJAMI connection. Does that sound about right or no?



I don't think it's only that. As a Lumi, I admit that Ejill rubs me the wrong way for these reasons. I don't want to see EJ encroaching or usurping a role that belongs to Lucas - I see enough of EJ on my screen, and I have seen enough of EJ trampling upon all things Lumi, that I don't need to see any more of it or him. And yes Ejill is another definitely another Ejami connection, contriving situations where Sami has cause to argue with EJ about his blackmailing her son, which could then be seen or played as angry Ejami foreplay or something. And that I do not like.

But, the reasons why viewers dislike Ejill is not only to do with fanbase allegiances, I don't think. Even I, a bonafide Lumi-er, dislike Ejill for reasons having to do with EJill only. I do not like to see EJ manhandle Will or smack him in the face. I do not like to hear him condescendingly holler at Will and for Will to just sit there and take it. This might change, which I hope it will soonish- but from what I see on my screens now, I do not like what I see. And maybe Will deserves to be taught a lesson and that is what EJ is doing. Ok - but I still don't have to like seeing it. Whether Will likes the job or not, he is still under the whim of EJ's capricious moods, and I do not like that.

I could observe that a lot of those posters who seem to like Ejill are not only EJ fans, but more particularly Ejami fans, and I could speculate the reasons why that is, and I don't think I would be totally off-base. But I don't presume to know anything definitive about posters' opinions, and I don't think all Ejill fans are Ejami's, etc.

And even if any or all of my distaste for Ejill stems from my love of Lumi, I still think those opinions are valid and shouldn't be dismissed as fanbase shipping or anything, in case that was the implication. I usually state when my feelings are motivated by shipping, and then I try to be objective and recognize the appear of Ejill. But even in that objectivity, I still I have real reasons not to like this dynamic whole-heartedly.
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I really like EJ/Will dynamic. It has a lot of layers and I see several of them even within an episode. One minute it's manipulative (usually EJ but some moments Will), another it's boss/employee, the next it's mentor/mentee (teaching him to do good or bad)... etc with very nice transitions from one to the next, IMO. It seems like no matter what the current relationship, both seem to enjoy the other's company and like what they are getting out of the relationship; it's probably those factors that had some folks talking about whether there are some sexual undertones between them. Either way, this dynamic is complex and isn't like anything else on the show right now. I love it.
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Jun 24 2012, 08:37 PM
I really like EJ/Will dynamic. It has a lot of layers and I see several of them even within an episode. One minute it's manipulative (usually EJ but some moments Will), another it's boss/employee, the next it's mentor/mentee (teaching him to do good or bad)... etc with very nice transitions from one to the next, IMO. It seems like no matter what the current relationship, both seem to enjoy the other's company and like what they are getting out of the relationship; it's probably those factors that had some folks talking about whether there are some sexual undertones between them. Either way, this dynamic is complex and isn't like anything else on the show right now. I love it.
That's exactly why I find the EJ/Will story so enjoyable, too. It's a departure from the usual relationships, and I'm not really sure where it's going. I love the layers and the unpredictability.
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If Will is all about Power, the money and perks and becoming like EJ, then I don't particularly like this version of Will. It would have been more admirable if he remained loyal to his family and not want to become like the man who have done them so much wrong.


Watching Will be a one-note character that only has to serve his family all the time and is stuck being a Brady pub bus boy doesn't seem interesting to me. It's also not very soapy.

I rather see complex characters. Will is in college and he's growing and changing. He does love his family, he loves Marlena, his dad, etc.. He also loves working for EJ. I rather watch Will struggle at this age between wanting power, wrong, right, good vs bad, his sexuality and conflict between his family and EJ than just watch him run around going just repeating "Dimera's are evil" and being some Brady sidekick. How does that work storyline wise with Roman, Sonny and Bo? PR is going for a reason and saying that he has been replaced in the stories of the show.

If Will was a one-note loyal Brady he'd have no real story plots. He'd be on once every couple weeks.

EJ and Will are getting the attention and praise and buzz it's getting from fans, media, etc.. is because you never know what you're going to get with them.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

gailwinters
Jun 24 2012, 08:42 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Jun 24 2012, 08:37 PM
I really like EJ/Will dynamic. It has a lot of layers and I see several of them even within an episode. One minute it's manipulative (usually EJ but some moments Will), another it's boss/employee, the next it's mentor/mentee (teaching him to do good or bad)... etc with very nice transitions from one to the next, IMO. It seems like no matter what the current relationship, both seem to enjoy the other's company and like what they are getting out of the relationship; it's probably those factors that had some folks talking about whether there are some sexual undertones between them. Either way, this dynamic is complex and isn't like anything else on the show right now. I love it.
That's exactly why I find the EJ/Will story so enjoyable, too. It's a departure from the usual relationships, and I'm not really sure where it's going. I love the layers and the unpredictability.
Not to mention that Will plans to blackmail him, their dynamic gets more interesting.
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Jun 24 2012, 08:47 PM
gailwinters
Jun 24 2012, 08:42 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Jun 24 2012, 08:37 PM
I really like EJ/Will dynamic. It has a lot of layers and I see several of them even within an episode. One minute it's manipulative (usually EJ but some moments Will), another it's boss/employee, the next it's mentor/mentee (teaching him to do good or bad)... etc with very nice transitions from one to the next, IMO. It seems like no matter what the current relationship, both seem to enjoy the other's company and like what they are getting out of the relationship; it's probably those factors that had some folks talking about whether there are some sexual undertones between them. Either way, this dynamic is complex and isn't like anything else on the show right now. I love it.
That's exactly why I find the EJ/Will story so enjoyable, too. It's a departure from the usual relationships, and I'm not really sure where it's going. I love the layers and the unpredictability.
Not to mention that Will plans to blackmail him, their dynamic gets more interesting.
oh, yeah. If/when Will finds out EJ's secret, their whole relationship is going to change; I'm guessing a role reversal. It's going to be goooooood! :popcorn: I can't wait!
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

JamaicanBeauty7
Jun 24 2012, 08:53 PM
JamesScott_19
Jun 24 2012, 08:47 PM
gailwinters
Jun 24 2012, 08:42 PM
JamaicanBeauty7
Jun 24 2012, 08:37 PM
I really like EJ/Will dynamic. It has a lot of layers and I see several of them even within an episode. One minute it's manipulative (usually EJ but some moments Will), another it's boss/employee, the next it's mentor/mentee (teaching him to do good or bad)... etc with very nice transitions from one to the next, IMO. It seems like no matter what the current relationship, both seem to enjoy the other's company and like what they are getting out of the relationship; it's probably those factors that had some folks talking about whether there are some sexual undertones between them. Either way, this dynamic is complex and isn't like anything else on the show right now. I love it.
That's exactly why I find the EJ/Will story so enjoyable, too. It's a departure from the usual relationships, and I'm not really sure where it's going. I love the layers and the unpredictability.
Not to mention that Will plans to blackmail him, their dynamic gets more interesting.
oh, yeah. If/when Will finds out EJ's secret, their whole relationship is going to change; I'm guessing a role reversal. It's going to be goooooood! :popcorn: I can't wait!
Oh yes that is going to be exciting, C'mon Will come to the dark side. :rockon:
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Jun 24 2012, 05:53 PM
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Jun 24 2012, 04:11 PM
The EJILL debate is hilarious. I think EJILL is so popular because their relationship has been well written and developed. The changing dynamics make sense. Will not only loves the perks & the power, but also the independence that EJ provided for him. EJ treats Will like an adult. Due to his association with EJ, Will has become more confident and happy. Will said at first he didn't want to work for EJ, but came to love it. I love that there was a transition from "hate" to "love" and it makes sense that Will was so upset when EJ fired him. Will had a lot going on in his life and EJ provided an outlet for Will. Will benefitted greatly from his association with EJ and I think EJ also enjoys the kinship. Plus Will has a natural dark side to him and with EJ he is able to tap into that side a bit more. I love dark Will too.

They threaten/blackmail each other to try to get more control, but there's also a dependency between the two. This is why EJILL have a complex relationship- there's different layers. I love that you don't know what's going to happen next or if there's going to be scenes where they're getting along, working together, scheming, threatening each other, or whatever. You know what you're going to get when Will has scenes with most other characters. So the EJILL dynamic is just more engaging to watch. I don't want to see EJILL get along all the time, though I enjoy the tender moments and when they're working together, but I want to see some angst too. I can see more betrayals, fights, and blackmail. But at the same time, see them supporting and protecting each other.

I could be wrong but I get the impression that haters of EJILL are basing their opinions based on other relationships. Lumis are jealous of the father/son type bond between EJILL, WilSon fans either want all of Will's storylines revolved around Sonny or don't like that the EJILL chemistry gets so much attention, and both Lumi & Ejoles see EJILL as an EJAMI connection. Does that sound about right or no?

I view EJILL as their own entity/dynamic and have a great consistent storyline that is fun to watch. I love that there's so much buzz and support for EJILL too! I hope Days is smart enough to keep writing for this popular and awesome dynamic duo!



I agree that is why I love their relationship, I don't see Ej bullying Will to do anything. He treats him as an adult, also he told him that he had the permission to leave but Will wanted to stay. I don't see Ej forcing Will to continue to work with him, Will seems to like the fact that he is working with him, not to mention the benefits he has.

I see the bullying coming in when EJ, like, manhandles Will in the HTS or smacks him in the face and mouth. I see the bullying when he condescendingly hollers at Will, or even couches/defines the power dynamic inherent in the relationship, as it is now, with expressions like "I own you" or "I say jump and you say how high" and having Will repeat it like a monkey.

And there is of course the blackmail EJ still has on Will, which could still frighten Will a little. Even though he has been cleared as a suspect due to his alibi, I can still see him being fearful about what EJ could expose about him (even though that might mean EJ would be implicating himself as an obstructor of justice, Will was a minor at the time), etc.

That EJ treats Will like an adult is also debatable. He has given Will his independence, sorta, with a car and apartment -- but those are conditional and do not really belong to Will (so nothing very adult about that). He has given Will shady work to do, which was probably fun for Will, he liked the feeling of getting away with things, etc. Those are grown-up things to give Will to do, responsibility to expect him to be able to handle, etc. But I haven't seen EJ entrust him with these kinds of responsibilities lately. What was he last doing for EJ? Culling and collecting media items re: EJ? something liek that? Seems like busy/lackey work at the moment. Nothing very grown-up about that. And I also see Will just standing there and allowing himself to be screamed at with the same blank look/smirk on his face. As EJ's subordinate, I supposed he should take it..to an extent. But a lot of those scenes make me uncomfortable, I would like to see Will start to defend himself.

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....for one I never saw Ej trying to replace Lucas as a Father. He respects his role as a Father but that does not mean that means that Will should stop working for Ej because of his reputation....I don't see any father/son bond....
I do. Perhaps it is happening subtly, but I do. Perhaps it's more a mentor/mentee relationship for now, but I can see it quickly crossing into something father/son-y. I see it happening right now, actually. It was even rather suggestively suggested when Sonny asked Will if his dad had been cool about Will being gay, Will said yes, Sonny said, he probably turned your mother around (something like that, I am paraphrasing from Friday's show...or is it from the day-ahead for Monday's show?? one of those). And Will said yes, but actually it was more EJ who talked to her, turned her around, etc. My blood boiled a bit after that. grrr. And EJ respects Lucas's role as a father? Hmmm, I am not so sure I believe that. I could be wrong, but that is my feeling.

I dislike Ejill for many reasons, but I like them for others....I just want to see some tweaking. I like gray characters over black and white characters, so as I have said, I am enjoying seeing Will's character navigate these grayer, murkier waters. I am sure he likes the power that comes from working for EJ. I am sure he feels a sense of obligation to EJ for the job, etc. EJ has given him, but some of that "loyalty" is also motivated by his fear of what EJ might do should Will betray him. I don't like there to be affection, warmth or tenderness between the two. Respect and admiration is one thing, but the other I just could not stomach (my opinion). I personally don't feel Will should feel "indebted" to EJ for much of anything...not the car, nor the apt, nor the keeping him out of jail, really, b/c I feel like I know the real reason EJ did that, and it wasn't selfless nor paternal nor altruistic. I think Will should hate EJ for what he has done to his family, and I want to see this come out more. Will hated him in the beginning, and I feel like that hatred should still exist. But Will has also liked working for EJ, so that complicated things....and maybe he has also been afforded a different look at EJ b/c he has seen how much EJ has lost recently. I say whatever, but I agree that could make Will even more conflicted about working/being around EJ. I just don't want to hear Will say he [EJ] isn't so bad (bah), without that being balanced with an instance where Will realizes EJ IS that bad, and that continues the ping-ponging. A poster somewhere said the tide might change for Will if his involvement with EJ hurts Sonny in some way, if EJ hurts Sonny in some way, and I think that is accurate - I want to see that happen.

Will as a darker, gray character is great. But I also want to see him as loyal and defending his family at all costs, esp. against someone like EJ. So I hope, whatever dirt Will finds on EJ that he might use merely to be in control of EJ (which would be pretty satisfying to see), I hope he is at least partially truthful about wanting to bring EJ down. I can see it being about both things. And I can also see Will soften in his ardor to double-cross EJ, and then stiffen in his hatred once again. I can see this dynamic changing by the second. Some might call that conflicted and complex; some might call it schizophrenic and directionless. I can see it being both, depends on the writing.

Regardless, I would just like to see Will be more assertive, and flex those family loyalty muscles a bit more now that he is being tested a little.
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I would so put Days on my DVR just to see Will working with EJ and getting sucked in with him, instead of EJ and Sami together. I would LOVE to see Will and Sami continue to be at odds. Soap!
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Jun 22 2012, 02:02 PM
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Jun 22 2012, 11:38 AM
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Jun 21 2012, 08:10 PM
That little boring short shrimp Sonny aka the Mr. Rogers Neighborhood wannabe of Salem needs to STFU. I'd much rather Will learn how to scheme and connive than spend his time helping him serve coffee in that boring ass coffee shop.
I don't hate Sonny...but THAT my friend was fucking HILARIOUS!

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There's a serious danger of Sonny becoming a wet blanket if they don't give him his own storyline and write some layers. He can be good without being no fun, but he's teetering on the brink of being a total kill joy. And I am a big fan of FS, when they use him.
Agreed. He's so perfect and well meaning (someone compared him to Rafe, and I have to disagree, because imo, Sonny genuinely does have all the good qualities he's praised for...and he can make expressions, but anyway), but right now he has nothing else going on besides being Will's moral center. That's not going to take him very far, and since the trouble Will gets himself into is also entertaining, it's not going to be fun if Sonny stands on the sidelines b*tching and moaning about everything. It'd be nice if he had his own stuff going on and wasn't always 100% confident and self assured. Maybe Will or one ot the other teens could even be there for him.
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Jun 24 2012, 08:45 PM
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If Will is all about Power, the money and perks and becoming like EJ, then I don't particularly like this version of Will. It would have been more admirable if he remained loyal to his family and not want to become like the man who have done them so much wrong.


Watching Will be a one-note character that only has to serve his family all the time and is stuck being a Brady pub bus boy doesn't seem interesting to me. It's also not very soapy.

I rather see complex characters. Will is in college and he's growing and changing. He does love his family, he loves Marlena, his dad, etc.. He also loves working for EJ. I rather watch Will struggle at this age between wanting power, wrong, right, good vs bad, his sexuality and conflict between his family and EJ than just watch him run around going just repeating "Dimera's are evil" and being some Brady sidekick. How does that work storyline wise with Roman, Sonny and Bo? PR is going for a reason and saying that he has been replaced in the stories of the show.

If Will was a one-note loyal Brady he'd have no real story plots. He'd be on once every couple weeks.

EJ and Will are getting the attention and praise and buzz it's getting from fans, media, etc.. is because you never know what you're going to get with them.
While EJill is written inconsistently, and I don't like any warmth or real affection between them, I agree with this. Will has become far more interesting in EJ's orbit, and there's an incredible potential for conflict and storyline. I don't think he likes EJ personally, but I think he's gotten addicted to the power and perks of working for him. And I am looking forward to Will learning EJ's big secret, and I'm very interested in the fact that Will will likely not come forward with the information but use it to gain power over EJ, the thought of which seems to be giving Will a rush.

I don't think the relationship with EJ is positive for Will, but it's great for the storyline. And I hope that Will continues to evolve as a character and become an adult that has internal conflict between right and wrong. I can see Will eventually getting hired by Grandma Kate, not out of nepotism but because she recognizes his talents.

I think the relationship is written imperfectly, and I wish there was more involvement with Sami, Lucas and especially Chad in the EJill scenes. I'd really like to see Chad get jealous of the attention his brother pays to Will. I'd like to see more of what Will does for EJ work wise, and I'd like to see Lucas or Sonny be specifically concerned about that.

I get that it's not everybody's cup of tea, but I do think that it could lead to good stories - especially now that Will is ready to turn the tables.
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Jun 24 2012, 09:04 PM
I would so put Days on my DVR just to see Will working with EJ and getting sucked in with him, instead of EJ and Sami together. I would LOVE to see Will and Sami continue to be at odds. Soap!
That's the period I enjoyed Will the most. When he was really upset with his mother and wasn't shy about telling her exactly what he thought of her.
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