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Sariah
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Jun 27 2012, 10:53 AM
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Then how can you make that statement that if a character was failing they would be already written out? Remember this a character fails primarily because of the writing, and it excels primarily because of the same reason. Just because Madison was written out doesn't mean another writer can't come and make Madison SHINE.....this particular writer didn't want to deal with a former writers creation....regardless of if it was a failing or not.
She wasn't fired by the writers. It wasn't their choice to cut their losses with a character that was not working. Writers don't make firing and hiring choices. Hire ups who know the data did. Sarah Brown isn't cheap there's lots that go into trying to make a character work and if the money vs statistics wasn't making sense to them they cut the loses and they did. The new writers didn't come in and say "we're firing Matt Ashford." Read his interview down below. The new writers versus old writers isn't the in charge people here. And I'm not even going to bother explain "failure" anymore because it doesn't seem to make logic to you. I agree with you completely 100% about Rafe/GG, but you know what? I'm not the only viewer, there's lots of viewers who aren't on the internet, lots of viewers all over the place that aren't on this board. I can't speak for them to say what they like and what they don't. You may, but I won't. Rafe has fans who like him with Carrie, Rafe has fans who like him with Sami. I'm not going to make a blanket statement saying that he's a failure of a character when people obviously do like his character and it's not true. I may not be one of them who like him, but that doesn't make him a failure. Lots of people could like him for everyone that doesn't.
You hit the nail right on the head. I've seen this for years now. Why is Rafe still here? Why is Daniel still here? Why can't they get rid of Melanie? These characters have fans. I've seen it myself. There are several people who work at my office who started watching Days again in 2009 and actually enjoy Rafe, Melanie, Sami, EJ, etc. My mother STOPPED watching this year when Melanie and Nicole were hardly on. She also missed seeing Daniel. There are different tastes out there. Different viewers. The show has info that reflects that. Characters like Rafe and Daniel are still here because they are popular enough to be. Melanie lasted as long as she did because she was popular. The writing for them may suck but the actors are liked enough that the show can't justify getting rid of them because they have fans and people still like the characters despite the writing flaws. The show can't and won't ever please anyone. They tried that under MarDar and failed miserably. Your always going to have people on both sides of the fence. The thing is that if a character is still around 4-5 years later, there's a reason why and that reason has to be popularity. For every person who hates Rafe or EJ or whomever, there is others who love them and only watch for them. That has always been the case with any show. I'm sure there have been cases like that throughout history on this show. This isn't just some new development. The show has to go with the comprehensive information they have. They can't just look at one message board or at message boards, in general, to decide what to do. That is way to small a sample size. I don't know if popularity is the only gauge they use to decide whether or not a character stays. You have the money consideration (lesser known, younger actors are going to be paid a lot less than vets), and you have the writers' interests. For example, Higley loved Bricole. She's the one who put them together. When she was gone, they were gone. When Higley returned, so did Bricole. That's a pairing SHE loved. That's a pairing she created, and one she wanted to see on screen.
Philip and Morgan were put together because Ed Scott wanted Kristen Renton to be the show's new ingenue. It wasn't because Morgan was popular. It was simply the wishes of the executive producer to try and make her popular.
Tomlin obviously had his favorites, and the reason so many are dreading his return is that his favorites will again gain an inordinate amount of screen time. Not because they're popular. But because Tomlin has already shown who he wants to write for.
On the converse side, we've seen many a popular actor (like, supercouple popular) be let go because a writer didn't want to write for them (Reilly and Jack; Higley and Shelle) or because they were trying to cut the budget. If popularity was what they concerned themselves with most, they would find a way to keep the adored characters.
There's also the perception by TPTB that if a character is creating a lot of buzz, negative or positive, it's all good for the show. Corday wants us upset. The writers want us upset. Because their logic is if that we're upset, we will watch. So their definition of popularity may differ from mine.
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Jun 27 2012, 10:54 AM
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NBC should be polling not just the current dwindling set of viewers, but also their vast potential audience that they're not reaching. They should be trying to figure out why that is so. My theory is that they arrogantly think they already have the answers and are deciding on behalf of the audience what it should like. That's why they're in so much trouble as a network.
This is a good point. The audience that is still watching must largely like EJ, because he's practically the whole show, and they are watching. (However, I think a large portion of what's left of the audience is also people who have just always watched Days and keep on watching, even when it stinks.) So anyway, I don't know that just tossing EJ would be a good thing, but trying to share the airtime with others and build other stories might be better than keeping EJ on 4-5 days a week. Keep EJ for the EJ fans, but try to hook those unimpressed with EJ too. (And then, once the EJ fans have been hooked by something better, go ahead and toss him :) ) It's not a good thing that Days has allowed itself to be so dependent on this one character. I've said before that a character like Steve was almost certainly more popular than EJ, but when Nichols wanted to leave, it wasn't the end of the world because there were things like JnJ and John/Isabella and Bo/Carly going to keep the fans hooked. But it was a major catastrophe when JS made noise about leaving. That shouldn't have been the case.
I think Days' best hope for gaining more viewers is to try to draw back lapsed viewers (whom I don't think are likely to come back for EJ) and try to hook those viewers' children. I just don't think people who never watched Days/teenagers are going to hop on board now with all the media options available now. The reboot was a great concept poorly executed, and now we're going back to square one. I saw a post somewhere else in which someone wrote that they heard Ashford was up for an Emmy and got excited to watch Days again because this person hadn't even realized MA was back, but then this person learned MA had already been fired. At least, though she doesn't do much for me, ED might at least pull in some lapsed viewers. I think the vets need to be used to make the show feel like Days and to attract viewers who have left and might be interested in coming back to see their old favorites (and it might be good if a character like Jack got enough air time for a lapsed viewer to realize he was back). At the same time, I think a decent younger set needs to be built while the vets are there to be an anchor. I think the current 30-something crowd is a mess full of unrootables, and I'd love for them to be phased out.
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Jun 27 2012, 10:56 AM
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Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about. Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about.
That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them.
EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:08 AM
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NBC should be polling not just the current dwindling set of viewers, but also their vast potential audience that they're not reaching. They should be trying to figure out why that is so. My theory is that they arrogantly think they already have the answers and are deciding on behalf of the audience what it should like. That's why they're in so much trouble as a network.
This is a good point. The audience that is still watching must largely like EJ, because he's practically the whole show, and they are watching. (However, I think a large portion of what's left of the audience is also people who have just always watched Days and keep on watching, even when it stinks.) So anyway, I don't know that just tossing EJ would be a good thing, but trying to share the airtime with others and build other stories might be better than keeping EJ on 4-5 days a week. Keep EJ for the EJ fans, but try to hook those unimpressed with EJ too. (And then, once the EJ fans have been hooked by something better, go ahead and toss him :) ) It's not a good thing that Days has allowed itself to be so dependent on this one character. I've said before that a character like Steve was almost certainly more popular than EJ, but when Nichols wanted to leave, it wasn't the end of the world because there were things like JnJ and John/Isabella and Bo/Carly going to keep the fans hooked. But it was a major catastrophe when JS made noise about leaving. That shouldn't have been the case. I think Days' best hope for gaining more viewers is to try to draw back lapsed viewers (whom I don't think are likely to come back for EJ) and try to hook those viewers' children. I just don't think people who never watched Days/teenagers are going to hop on board now with all the media options available now. The reboot was a great concept poorly executed, and now we're going back to square one. I saw a post somewhere else in which someone wrote that they heard Ashford was up for an Emmy and got excited to watch Days again because this person hadn't even realized MA was back, but then this person learned MA had already been fired. At least, though she doesn't do much for me, ED might at least pull in some lapsed viewers. I think the vets need to be used to make the show feel like Days and to attract viewers who have left and might be interested in coming back to see their old favorites (and it might be good if a character like Jack got enough air time for a lapsed viewer to realize he was back). At the same time, I think a decent younger set needs to be built while the vets are there to be an anchor. I think the current 30-something crowd is a mess full of unrootables, and I'd love for them to be phased out. What Days has lost is that character for fans to root for. They need a character that brings fans together. EJ will never be that. He's been overexposed and written too poorly to ever be a character that causes nothing but split decisions.
DOOL has forgotten what made stories like the possession work. Everyone wanted Marlena and John to win. The fight, the falls and the moment they won was what kept people watching.
When was the last time DOOL has had a storyline where good triumphs over evil? Where the majority of the story is spent on the understanding the good guy not the bad guy?
No, DOOL is too busy trying to write every bad guy/girl like he's misunderstood. Meanwhile, not taking nearly enough time to develop the good guys/girls unless its to make them dark. When did dark become complex? Last time I checked Superman was a very complex character. Old style Roman was the same.
Days needs to stop banking on the villains to make them successful. They need to go back to the basics and write for the good guy.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:13 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- Aliaron
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Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about.
Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about. That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them. EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light. But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has?
What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:21 AM
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Well, hopefully this is to about to become an ensemble show again where no 1 (2, 3, or 4) character is the center of the universe. And that's the way it should be.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:21 AM
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Now don't come whoopin' my ass at the grocery store cause I picked on your fav on here!
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^^ I agree.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:23 AM
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Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about.
Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about. That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them. EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light.
But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has? What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response. I think it's a chicken and egg question. I think the character had potential and a charismatic/good looking actor in the beginning to get him started, but now I think the character has been horribly mishandled, yet he's still the main thing to talk about because he's the focus. And for all EJ's faults, he's a whole lot more interesting than Melanie/Chad, Daniel/woman of the week, Abby/Cameron, so maybe EJ being the best thing going is an indication of how lousy the other stuff that gets focus is.
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No, DOOL is too busy trying to write every bad guy/girl like he's misunderstood.
See, I don't mind that concept. My favorite was a "misunderstood bad guy." The problem is, the show keeps not going there with EJ. See, I was a sucker for EJ when I thought that was the plan, but I can no longer take EJ seriously. He's gone inexplicably back and forth too much, to the point that he's become soulless to me. I can't love to hate him as a villain, because he's really not a villain, but I can't root for him as a protagonist either, because I see nothing there for which to root.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:25 AM
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Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about.
Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about. That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them. EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light.
But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has? What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response. No. The show is not written around EJ because he's popular. It is written around EJ because he's a paper thin character that they can use for anything. Need a bad guy. Let's use EJ. Need a victim. Let's use EJ.
He is the perfect instrument for a terrible writer. The is nothing solid or concrete about him. Add on the fact, that JS probably gets paid in guarantees and he's a cheap get.
If popularity equaled stories then Jack wouldn't be fired, Stefano would be more than EJ's play pet and Marlena would have an actual story.
I don't care if some watch the show for EJ. This is an ensemble cast. Others watch the show only for Will and Sonny. Then you got those who watched for Jack. And don't forget those who watch for Marlena.
Yet and still, only one of the characters is consuming the show. And its been shown that EJ can not carry this show to success. He hasn't led one successful storyline.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:25 AM
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^ My face watching DAYS
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Even though I like James Scott...I agree...Days of EJ's Lives needs to come to an end...this is an ensemble show...not a 1 or 2 person show.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:28 AM
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EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light. I don't agree with the content of your post, but had to compliment this turn of phrase. Nice.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:28 AM
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That's all I'm saying. Cut the guys storylines and airtime down. I don't begrudge his fans but I'm not one of them. The time I could have been one has come and gone. If this show is only for EJ fans then this show is doomed.
And its definitely not Days Of Our Lives!
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Jun 27 2012, 11:29 AM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about.
Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about. That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them. EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light.
But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has? What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response. Oh I don't know...maybe Hogan Sheffer's preference for James, just like GT prefers and favors GG?
I don't know.....I think it was preferences for sure...when they realized that they can milk this Ejami/Lumi triangle for all it's worth mainly because 2 out of the 3 actors already had a large established following and the other actor was coming from AMC with somewhat of a following too. Problem was that JER had an idea for who EJ was and Hogan pretty much continued to follow that mold for a little while but then got lost in his favoritism for Scott pretty much how GT got lost in his thing for GG and the rest is history. He just had to give JS two roles and make him the center of everything, that summer the ratings were awful and the featured story was santeen/vendetta and unlike now that you can blame a few storylines on the bad ratings.....everything that summer revolved around Santeen/Vendetta, it was awful.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:30 AM
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Well, hopefully this is to about to become an ensemble show again where no 1 (2, 3, or 4) character is the center of the universe. And that's the way it should be. Exactly. That is what it should be.
And, yes, popularity isn't the only factor in a character or actor staying around but when you see characters like Rafe, Daniel, EJ, etc survive different writing regimes than that becomes the major factor. You'll find new writers often don't like to keep on characters brought on by the previous regime unless they are popular and are forced to write for them and, of course, they may like them and that makes the job easier. Look what happened to Madison and Ian. They are prime examples.
Yes, there are other factors. It's just that popularity tends to be the reasoning as to why a character like Rafe or Daniel or others like them stick around despite not having the best writing and some parts of the audience disliking them. The fact that a writer or producer may like them may play a role but if the character or actor sticks around even after that writer or producer is gone, that is proof that it's more about popularity in regards to those characters than anything else.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:32 AM
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Well, hopefully this is to about to become an ensemble show again where no 1 (2, 3, or 4) character is the center of the universe. And that's the way it should be. I doubt it. If you look at actor episode counts, Tomlin was probably the WORST at saturating the canvas with his preferred characters. If you don't like watching EJ, Sami, Nicole, Rafe, Dan, Melanie, Hope, Maggie and the kids 4 or 5 days a week, you probably won't like how Tomlin allocates screentime.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:36 AM
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Just happened to be checking the Twitter trends on my phone and saw that Melissa Reeves just followed Greg Vaughan. I don't think that's a coincidence. I wonder if he's already started filming before these two dark weeks. I can't believe Marlena's gonna have her oldest son back (yes, Brady is also Marlena's son and I feel like verbally smacking anyone who says he's not.). Maybe they'll actually give them a relationship! They've ignored Brady/Marlena's relationship since J&M came back. And played by a guy who, like Jensen Ackles, has the charisma to play DH's son.
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If the character was failing then the character wouldn't be here anymore
Even completely ignoring EJ, this is so not true. There are a lot of character's who have failed who are still in the show. Dude, Winston's been on for 15 freaking years this summer.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:38 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- Aliaron
- Jun 27 2012, 10:56 AM
- AHM
- Jun 27 2012, 10:27 AM
Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about.
Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about. That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them. EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light.
But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has? What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response.
No. The show is not written around EJ because he's popular. It is written around EJ because he's a paper thin character that they can use for anything. Need a bad guy. Let's use EJ. Need a victim. Let's use EJ. He is the perfect instrument for a terrible writer. The is nothing solid or concrete about him. Add on the fact, that JS probably gets paid in guarantees and he's a cheap get. If popularity equaled stories then Jack wouldn't be fired, Stefano would be more than EJ's play pet and Marlena would have an actual story. I don't care if some watch the show for EJ. This is an ensemble cast. Others watch the show only for Will and Sonny. Then you got those who watched for Jack. And don't forget those who watch for Marlena. Yet and still, only one of the characters is consuming the show. And its been shown that EJ can not carry this show to success. He hasn't led one successful storyline. EJ is a product of the writers - whomever they are. So why would that singular character be given so much because he's 'paper thin'. How is it the same writers aren't writing other characters to be 'paper thin'?
I sincerely doubt James Scott is a 'cheap get' - particularly since the renegotiated contract kicked in. There are any number of other actors on the show that would likely be every bit as 'cheap' - so why focus solely on him?
I am the first person to agree that the show needs more balance and that EJ gets more air time than is necessary - particularly lately. While I enjoy seeing him I understand the negative impact on the show. But I completely disagree with your assessment as to why they focus so much on him.
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Jun 27 2012, 11:42 AM
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.
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- LuvingLumi
- Jun 27 2012, 11:29 AM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 27 2012, 11:13 AM
- Aliaron
- Jun 27 2012, 10:56 AM
- AHM
- Jun 27 2012, 10:27 AM
Ah, EJ. "Failure" is a difficult word. It's hard to say he's a failure when it's possible he's the most popular character on the show. At the same time though, he's the most featured character on the show, so he's what people see and talk about---that's because he's what the show mainly gives us to talk about.
Its pretty unfair to say he's the most popular character on the show. He's featured in five or six storylines, the most of any character on the show. The show is literally written around him so of course he's talked about. That's like saying Dawson of Dawson's Creek was the most popular character on the show. But then heck, even Dawson wasn't on every show. To me a popular character is one that creates buzz without having the entire show surround them. EJ shines because he's covering up the sun not because he's a radiant light.
But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has? What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response.
Oh I don't know...maybe Hogan Sheffer's preference for James, just like GT prefers and favors GG? I don't know.....I think it was preferences for sure...when they realized that they can milk this Ejami/Lumi triangle for all it's worth mainly because 2 out of the 3 actors already had a large established following and the other actor was coming from AMC with somewhat of a following too. Problem was that JER had an idea for who EJ was and Hogan pretty much continued to follow that mold for a little while but then got lost in his favoritism for Scott pretty much how GT got lost in his thing for GG and the rest is history. He just had to give JS two roles and make him the center of everything, that summer the ratings were awful and the featured story was santeen/vendetta and unlike now that you can blame a few storylines on the bad ratings.....everything that summer revolved around Santeen/Vendetta, it was awful. But even that was five years ago...and JS's prominence on the show has continued if not grown since then.
Like I said - I agree they are using him too much these days and have in the past. But I think it's also indicative that, as SoapGal said, TPTB see something in him that makes them want to write for him.
Trust me...there have been times when I would have prayed they rest him rather than continue with whatever shitastic stuff they were having him do. Scarfmance would be my first example. :laugh:
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Jun 27 2012, 11:45 AM
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- SocRMum1
- Jun 27 2012, 11:38 AM
- Aliaron
- Jun 27 2012, 11:25 AM
- SocRMum1
- Jun 27 2012, 11:13 AM
- Aliaron
- Jun 27 2012, 10:56 AM
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But that's just it. Is the show written around EJ because he became so popular and generated so much interest? Is it because James Scott has proven to be so talented? What prompted EJ to be given the air time that he has? What you may see as covering up the light others see as the primary reason to watch the show. To each their own. It's up to TPTB to decide which side brings a bigger response.
No. The show is not written around EJ because he's popular. It is written around EJ because he's a paper thin character that they can use for anything. Need a bad guy. Let's use EJ. Need a victim. Let's use EJ. He is the perfect instrument for a terrible writer. The is nothing solid or concrete about him. Add on the fact, that JS probably gets paid in guarantees and he's a cheap get. If popularity equaled stories then Jack wouldn't be fired, Stefano would be more than EJ's play pet and Marlena would have an actual story. I don't care if some watch the show for EJ. This is an ensemble cast. Others watch the show only for Will and Sonny. Then you got those who watched for Jack. And don't forget those who watch for Marlena. Yet and still, only one of the characters is consuming the show. And its been shown that EJ can not carry this show to success. He hasn't led one successful storyline.
EJ is a product of the writers - whomever they are. So why would that singular character be given so much because he's 'paper thin'. How is it the same writers aren't writing other characters to be 'paper thin'? I sincerely doubt James Scott is a 'cheap get' - particularly since the renegotiated contract kicked in. There are any number of other actors on the show that would likely be every bit as 'cheap' - so why focus solely on him? I am the first person to agree that the show needs more balance and that EJ gets more air time than is necessary - particularly lately. While I enjoy seeing him I understand the negative impact on the show. But I completely disagree with your assessment as to why they focus so much on him. They are trying to write other characters as paper thin but their fans aren't having it. J&J fans were like f' this when they turned Jennifer into a worse waffler than she was. Look how they've watered down Austin, who was already watered down. And Lucas who was never this much of a good guy.
There are not many other characters the writers can flip-flop constantly and their fans go along with it. If Marlena started stealing babies and blackmailing people, something tells me her fans would be pissed.
But EJ has no true solid core. He's like clay and they can just mush into a mode. Great for writers. Terrible for the audience who have to follow that mess.
To say, EJ is just sooo popular that they have to use him five times a week in five storylines is just ignoring the fact that there are more popular characters that have not been used and have been tossed aside.
I'd have to be walking with blinders on to believe that.
Edited by Aliaron, Jun 27 2012, 11:48 AM.
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