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| Tuesday, June 26th Daily Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 25 2012, 02:25 PM (8,317 Views) | |
| TribeHines | Jun 25 2012, 03:40 PM Post #21 |
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Thanks for posting :) This epi. sounds good. I love when EJ gets Sami riled up! Very sweet EJ displays a picture of Sami with the kids. |
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| six | Jun 25 2012, 03:42 PM Post #22 |
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As the person who said it did, let me explain - I assumed from the hints BD gave that Lucas was going to be giving Sonny some kind of advice and Sonny might get to have a reaction to it, but instead it's more 'super put together guy who has it all figured out says exactly the right thing and isn't even slightly nervous when this guy's dad who he doesn't even know asks him about his romantic feelings.' I mean yea, Sonny is worldly and confident and blah blah blah, but does nothing rattle him? Even a little? Maybe the actor will add a little extra something, but that exchange was so generic that it could have taken place with Sonny and anybody. |
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| yourstar | Jun 25 2012, 03:45 PM Post #23 |
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I disagree. I don't think you need to know someone's entire life story to fall for them. That type of openess usually comes as the relationship progresses. I think Sonny's feelings are quite natural. He helped Will through a really rough time and has been a sounding board for the better part of the last six months. They have shared numerous intimate conversations and he has seen Will at his lowest. And don't forget Will is a hottie. All the elements are their for an attraction to form. It's not as if he is confessing these feelings after their first meeting. |
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| michr544125 | Jun 25 2012, 03:46 PM Post #24 |
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Ok I see what you are saying. I guess until I see it hard to tell. Things tend to always play out differently for me on tv after reading recaps. I hope also that we at least see some nervousness in those scenes or hear hesitation in his voice. |
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| supercool74 | Jun 25 2012, 03:46 PM Post #25 |
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I also agree that they have shown some hints. I've seen the way Sonny has looked at Will on several occasions. I'd like to add that just because Sonny does not seem to know Will as much as we do...in that Will is hiding a lot from him...does not mean that he can't have feelings for him. People get crushes all the time and may not know one thing about them except that they seem nice and are good looking. I don't think Sonny is declaring his undying love at this point...just that his feelings run deeper than just friendship. I find that totally believable. Maybe he doesn't know everything about Will right now, but they are good friends and so he does know Will's personality for the most part and the fact that he's looking at him in more than friendship is not shocking to me. ETA: seems I had the same thoughts as yourstar :wave: Edited by supercool74, Jun 25 2012, 03:52 PM.
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| elci525 | Jun 25 2012, 03:48 PM Post #26 |
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I don't get what the big deal is. Will is in college right now; school should be his top priority. I work-studied throughout school, and was glad to do it. But classes and school work were always my first priority, as they should have been. Lucas is being a responsible, rational parent by saying that, and it's true. The job with EJ is ephemeral at best. It could teach him some important life lessons, but, really, why would Lucas or Sami or any of Will's family want to see him prioritize and privilege work for EJ over his schoolwork? And what work is Will doing with college? Really? Especially since working for EJ? I have seen one mention a few months ago where I think someone told him here are the notes for the class you missed. I admit we haven't seen any of the teen set go to class, as that is pretty boring to watch, but I am just saying this to try to prove that Lucas is not on some other planet making this completely ridiculous suggestion to his son. Sami wants him to have work, but honest work, and she is right about that. I don't think Lucas would disagree, he is just trying to give his son some perspective, help him refocus his priorities. What is so wrong about that? Lucas does many things wrong, but I don't think this was one of them. Edited by elci525, Jun 25 2012, 03:50 PM.
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| LuvingLumi | Jun 25 2012, 03:49 PM Post #27 |
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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Can someone find the quote from BD? All I remember him saying about this is that Lucas asked Sonny what his intentions were with Will. I think that is exactly how this plays out. |
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| michr544125 | Jun 25 2012, 03:52 PM Post #28 |
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He also said how he just wants to make sure Will and Sonny are on the "same page" and how it leads to some "good things" :wub: and how it's normally a conversation that you have with a significant other or a conversation a father has with their own child but instead he's talking to Sonny about it. Edited by michr544125, Jun 25 2012, 03:53 PM.
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| LuvingLumi | Jun 25 2012, 03:52 PM Post #29 |
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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I don't either. Lucas is trying to have Will see the light, that working for Ej (The Dimeras) in ANY capacity is wrong, especially when they have something to hold over your head. What is so bad about a father wanting to have his son concentrate on what's important, in this case school and not continue to be Ej's puppet. I see no problem in that, regardless of what Lucas did and how he worked for Kate or what not. One thing has nothing to do with the other, Lucas is looking out for his son more than anything. |
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| cyndabell | Jun 25 2012, 03:53 PM Post #30 |
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You're right, brazen. Sonny voicing his so called feelings for Will is so contrived! :eyeroll: Nothing leading up to this indicated that he harbored these feelings. See, this is what happens when characters aren't built. Sonny has been on the show for a year now, yet he's still too much of a puzzle. I think it would've been more effective and believable if Sonny discovered he had feelings for Will BEFORE he came out. It would've been a lot more dramatic that way and it would've been fun to see how Will handled Sonny having a crush on him while he was still presumed to be straight. Having said all this, I think the path to WILSON is not going to be an easy one. First, Will is going to have to reciprocate Sonny's feelings and Will's little "thing" with EJ is sure to be some kind of an obstacle as well. |
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| Ashtonion | Jun 25 2012, 03:54 PM Post #31 |
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Mrs. H and Mr. B
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What the hell? Sami can't even stay mad at EJ for blackmailing her son. What a flake. Lucas, EJ and isn't she supposed to be getting jealous of Rafe/Carrie soon? I really hate that chick. Stick with Lucas, it will be the best decision you ever made. Seriously I wish the Olympics were on now and Days didn't come back on till August. My frustration level of this show is off the charts. But as I said before: No Dicole after talk or buttoning up their clothes or getting dressed means for me they did not have sex. Until they say it, it didn't happen. It's just as reasonable as saying it did since they didnt' show them at least finishing up. I can live in my la-la land until the words come out of Dan's or Nicole's mouth since so many different things have been cut. |
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| six | Jun 25 2012, 03:56 PM Post #32 |
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I remember something about Lucas having the kind of conversation with Sonny that one usually has with their son about a girl, which to me equals advice. Whatever was said, I had higher hopes for it than what we got. |
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| spartan | Jun 25 2012, 03:58 PM Post #33 |
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I don't see how it can be seen as a prop when, as you said and I agree, it's in character. Lucas has been treating Sami this way since post-Stan wedding, IMO. Precisely around the time I could no longer stand the character of Lucas. He became too self-righteous for my taste. I get that it's not that way for others and I respect that. It is refreshing to see Sami call him out on it, though. Too many times before, she would just apologize profusely while Lucas stood with arms crossed, scowling like a disapproving parent. So that is a change in the usual response dynamic. I guess I don't see any of this as a surprise or 'contrived'. Sami was clearly affected by EJ and Lucas knew that but still re-entered into this 'friends with benefits' relationship with Sami again. He knew EJ was not out of her system by a longshot. I think he knew what would happen and why he's freaking out now seeing that it is in fact beginning all over again. The beginning of the end, perhaps. For what it's worth though, I enjoy reading your posts here and how you articulate your points about Lumi and why you like them. |
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| brazen | Jun 25 2012, 04:02 PM Post #34 |
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Is Will's family going to provide for him? Buy all his books and food and clothes until he's done school? Sami had no job and couldn't afford rent not to long ago, she got herself a free apartment from EJ just like Will got. He doesn't even live or want to live with Lucas or Sami. We don't even know where Lucas lives or if he's even got his own apartment (According to Bryan's latest interview, he has no home.) Will got himself an apartment, car and works for money to pay his own way at school, provide for himself and be independent. That's what people go to college to be learn to be able to do. Get out of college and be able to support yourself. Will's doing it now. Lucas himself only has a job because it was given to him by Sami, he now also has EJ as his boss. Sami works for EJ. Lucas (runs around calling him evil yet he ) works for EJ. Why can't Will work for EJ while he also goes to school? As long as his school work isn't suffering (and since they never show him at school or mention his grades we can just assume they're not suffering). Lucas and Sami's reaction is all just contrived crap for some redo of a triangle they've done already. It's really got nothing to do with Will or his education while working for EJ. It's about EJ/Sami/Lucas. Edited by brazen, Jun 25 2012, 04:06 PM.
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| Thomson | Jun 25 2012, 04:10 PM Post #35 |
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http://www.nbc.com/days-of-our-lives/video/dangerous-territory-62612/1407593 |
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| elci525 | Jun 25 2012, 04:11 PM Post #36 |
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Oh, well that is nice thing to say :P Nice to know my posts are being read, as I feel like I am talking in circles or verbally banging my head against the wall 99% of the time. It is not contrived or a surprise, necessarily, but with the rush of everything else that happens in Tuesday's episode (Monday was Lumi, Tuesday was Ejami, Wednesday will be Sabe? Thursday will be Seo?) it just sounded to me like on more thing to use as a strike against Lumi. I am likely being very sensitive here, but that is how it reads to me. If Tuesday is a pro-Ejami day, to have Lucas behave this way, while, as we agree, not being totally OOC, is one more way to make it a pro-Ejami day. Others might say this is a reason to like Ejami more than Lumi normally and every day. I disagree, but ok, that's an opinion. To me it just sounds like one more thing to add to the deluge of strikes-aginst-Lumi in tomorrow's episode - it all seems to get laid on especially thick. Especially when when just today have Luca ssaying such wonderful and accepting things to Sami. Timing seems interesting, that's all. I don't think Lucas has treated Sami this way since the post-Stan wedding - I mean, right after maybe, but not all the time since. My fave time for Lumi was 2006/7 (despite the ingratiating presence of a certain someone) because that self-righteousness as you call it was toned down a bit, Lucas felt regret for the way he had treated Sami in the past, blamed himself for why Sami couldn't tell him about the rape sooner, etc. And that is what made me fall in love with them all over. I agree that the writers did a great detriment to Lumi by making them want to change into better people all the time, and for Lucas to be this hero figure wanting to turn over a new leaf. Growth is good, but not a complete whitewashing please. They should have been kept as scheming partners-in-crimes appreciative of each other's very unique and particular gifts. I had hoped EJill might occasion a return to that a little, but it seems that is not in the cards. Edited by elci525, Jun 25 2012, 04:35 PM.
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| sonwill | Jun 25 2012, 04:12 PM Post #37 |
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Love the Will/Sonny and Sonny/Lucas stuff. It's been obvious to me for awhile, at least, that Sonny's had some lingering underlying feelings for Will just by the little looks, it doesn't have to be real obvious, plus we have the hug moment and the crotch lock, both were clear indicators of feelings there. The Sonny/Lucas scenes sound pretty cool and kind of how I expect them to be. And Will asking Sonny to go to the movies, love it. I'm probably a lot biased on all this, though, but I have always felt that chemistry and underlying attraction between the two - this is just one persons opinion though.
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| Honeybees | Jun 25 2012, 04:20 PM Post #38 |
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Count me as one who has seen Sonny crushing on Will for months. From the coffee card scene, to when Will came out to Sonny, to when Sonny was seriously irritated with Will for pretending they were together - it's all added up to attraction, to Sonny feeling close enough to Will to share emotionally intimate moments and to call Will on his shit. Will? I think he may like Sonny deep down, but really he's taken advantage of Sonny's feelings for him by using Sonny as a sounding board and then run off to "hang out" with Neil off screen. If I were a friend of Sonny's, I'd tell him to find someone better than Will. And I've shipped Wilson for months. As little as they give him to do, FS generally does a great job with making Sonny less of a busy body and a kill joy that the recaps sound like he might be. He puts inflections in his voice and uses his puppy dog eyes to great effect. That said, if Wilson is going to work - Sonny needs his own stories and he needs to make mistakes. Tomorrow sounds like the first scene in six months that is actually about Sonny's point of view. Maybe caring for Will could be his first big mistake. I think that could be true and Wilson still be endgame. Also, at this point, Will is by no means ready for a relationship with Sonny. But that could be used to good effect in the story, if they are given one. |
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| supercool74 | Jun 25 2012, 04:26 PM Post #39 |
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:lol: :lol: :lol: I never thought of it as a crotch lock. hehe I guess not everyone is seeing the looks which I don't get. They've been hinting at it for a little while. I could see something brewing back when they were at HTS and Will wanted to play beer pong with Neil. A lot of people were saying Sonny was just being a do-gooder because he told Will he wasn't of age or whatever. I think he was jealous, pure and simple. He just didn't want Will going off to hang with another dude. Edited by supercool74, Jun 25 2012, 04:28 PM.
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| Kyan | Jun 25 2012, 04:26 PM Post #40 |
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I trace Sonny's true intentions towards Will back to the reboot and the HTS party where Mel and sonny are talking and Will is wearing the suit that Justin got married to Adrienne in for added symbolism. Sonny looks directly towards WIll and camera pans to Will, then Sonny. later Gabi has inane conversation with Will and he obviously could care less and looks toward Sonny whole time. |
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