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CarlD2
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Jun 25 2012, 08:26 PM
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The only thing that puzzles me is why Sonny is so drawn to Will. Is he so lonely that he latched on to the only guy in town that talks to him and gives him some attention? Does that potent combination of Brady and Horton DNA of Will's cast a such an intoxicating spell that not even a Kiriakis could resist? Is Sonny blinded by his own hormones so much that he wants Will's virginity no matter what? Or does Sonny actually respect Will due to all of the time they have spent building their trust and friendship that Sonny sees something in Will that is worth pursuing? I honestly do not know the reason as there are so many things wrong with Will right now that any sensible person would run the other way instead of chasing after him. The two of them do seem mesmerized by the other so if Sonny is happy and wants to chase after Will, then I wish him luck. I'm all on board.
I don't think the reason goes beyond, "He's the only other gay man in Salem (who doesn't just pop in for a few weeks)."
Sonny has been so devalued as a character and if he exists solely to hand-hold Will, then the relationship will not work. As it is now the only relationship Will is in which gets a lot of interest is his smirking and pouting at EJ. So Sonny not having a sexy accent or throwing out witty-for-1973 double entendres means he's just boring in comparison. The show has set the relationship, if you can even call it that, up for failure.
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Jun 25 2012, 08:27 PM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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I dont get the Ej and Sami thing or the Ej and Will thing, to me its all disgusting. She shot him in the head, that does not spell love to me.
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Jun 25 2012, 08:50 PM
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This is a pretty good show all around. Loved the Sonny and Will,,EJ and Sami, and EJ and Will scenes. Nicole is showing her true colors. I don't think she believes that EJ killed Stephano, but she's happy to help send him to prison. I sure hope EJ is going to figure out what a vengeful witch she is.
And couldn't she at least have gone home and showered after doing the deed with Daniel?
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Jun 25 2012, 08:50 PM
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Count me as one who has seen Sonny crushing on Will for months. From the coffee card scene, to when Will came out to Sonny, to when Sonny was seriously irritated with Will for pretending they were together - it's all added up to attraction, to Sonny feeling close enough to Will to share emotionally intimate moments and to call Will on his shit. Will? I think he may like Sonny deep down, but really he's taken advantage of Sonny's feelings for him by using Sonny as a sounding board and then run off to "hang out" with Neil off screen. If I were a friend of Sonny's, I'd tell him to find someone better than Will. And I've shipped Wilson for months.
As little as they give him to do, FS generally does a great job with making Sonny less of a busy body and a kill joy that the recaps sound like he might be. He puts inflections in his voice and uses his puppy dog eyes to great effect. That said, if Wilson is going to work - Sonny needs his own stories and he needs to make mistakes. Tomorrow sounds like the first scene in six months that is actually about Sonny's point of view. Maybe caring for Will could be his first big mistake. I think that could be true and Wilson still be endgame.
Also, at this point, Will is by no means ready for a relationship with Sonny. But that could be used to good effect in the story, if they are given one.
Find a notary and let me co-sign all of this. Sonny's crush has been evident for many months and evidently it has only grown since Will finally opened his closet door. The only thing that puzzles me is why Sonny is so drawn to Will. Is he so lonely that he latched on to the only guy in town that talks to him and gives him some attention? Does that potent combination of Brady and Horton DNA of Will's cast a such an intoxicating spell that not even a Kiriakis could resist? Is Sonny blinded by his own hormones so much that he wants Will's virginity no matter what? Or does Sonny actually respect Will due to all of the time they have spent building their trust and friendship that Sonny sees something in Will that is worth pursuing? I honestly do not know the reason as there are so many things wrong with Will right now that any sensible person would run the other way instead of chasing after him. The two of them do seem mesmerized by the other so if Sonny is happy and wants to chase after Will, then I wish him luck. I'm all on board. That being said, I would kill for the show to portray Sonny as going out with Will, fucking him and then dumping his ass before dawn. It would be such a character reset for Sonny that it would instantly become the most interesting thing about him. Since that won't happen, go, Sonny, and get your man! It doesn't puzzle me at all. He simply feels "it' for Will. And me as a viewer has seen it since day one but I get that is subjective. They have built as friends for a year and now the flirting is actually beginning and it's not just from Sonny. It's Will basically asking Sonny out on a date and he doesn't even realize it's a date :wub: .
Has the build up been perfect? No way. Sonny was probably almost written out of the show or close to it not seeing him for three months. There was a three month void...though with the pacing probably only a month in Salem time.
But the screen caps I saw and the details from people that watched the show make me not really care about much else except seeing some movement in their romance. But yes Sonny needs development along with that. But I do feel we are slowly getting to see more about him. But yes he does need much more focus.
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Jun 25 2012, 08:58 PM
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- Jun 25 2012, 06:24 PM
I really want EJole back together, otherwise what is the point of her being pregnant! I hope something will come of Nicole's snooping, reignite the spark! hehe. I love Lumi also but this time around isn't as dynamic as it was in the past. Its sort of like the 2 of them have been watered down and Lucas is made to be boring. That's exactly what they're doing. They are writing Lucas much like they wrote Austin. I love Lucas and though he has his moments, he is no Mr. Nice Guy. These writers are not writing Lucas and Sami's dynamic at full force. You remember how Lucas/sami would banter sbout everything. They would go back and forth adlibbing we have seen none of that none of the fun sassy side of Lumi.
If it wasn't for how well Ali and Bry work together and their characters' histories this would not work.
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Jun 25 2012, 09:14 PM
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Count me as one who has seen Sonny crushing on Will for months. From the coffee card scene, to when Will came out to Sonny, to when Sonny was seriously irritated with Will for pretending they were together - it's all added up to attraction, to Sonny feeling close enough to Will to share emotionally intimate moments and to call Will on his shit. Will? I think he may like Sonny deep down, but really he's taken advantage of Sonny's feelings for him by using Sonny as a sounding board and then run off to "hang out" with Neil off screen. If I were a friend of Sonny's, I'd tell him to find someone better than Will. And I've shipped Wilson for months.
As little as they give him to do, FS generally does a great job with making Sonny less of a busy body and a kill joy that the recaps sound like he might be. He puts inflections in his voice and uses his puppy dog eyes to great effect. That said, if Wilson is going to work - Sonny needs his own stories and he needs to make mistakes. Tomorrow sounds like the first scene in six months that is actually about Sonny's point of view. Maybe caring for Will could be his first big mistake. I think that could be true and Wilson still be endgame.
Also, at this point, Will is by no means ready for a relationship with Sonny. But that could be used to good effect in the story, if they are given one.
Find a notary and let me co-sign all of this. Sonny's crush has been evident for many months and evidently it has only grown since Will finally opened his closet door. The only thing that puzzles me is why Sonny is so drawn to Will. Is he so lonely that he latched on to the only guy in town that talks to him and gives him some attention? Does that potent combination of Brady and Horton DNA of Will's cast a such an intoxicating spell that not even a Kiriakis could resist? Is Sonny blinded by his own hormones so much that he wants Will's virginity no matter what? Or does Sonny actually respect Will due to all of the time they have spent building their trust and friendship that Sonny sees something in Will that is worth pursuing? I honestly do not know the reason as there are so many things wrong with Will right now that any sensible person would run the other way instead of chasing after him. The two of them do seem mesmerized by the other so if Sonny is happy and wants to chase after Will, then I wish him luck. I'm all on board. That being said, I would kill for the show to portray Sonny as going out with Will, fucking him and then dumping his ass before dawn. It would be such a character reset for Sonny that it would instantly become the most interesting thing about him. Since that won't happen, go, Sonny, and get your man!
It doesn't puzzle me at all. He simply feels "it' for Will. And me as a viewer has seen it since day one but I get that is subjective. They have built as friends for a year and now the flirting is actually beginning and it's not just from Sonny. It's Will basically asking Sonny out on a date and he doesn't even realize it's a date :wub: . Has the build up been perfect? No way. Sonny was probably almost written out of the show or close to it not seeing him for three months. There was a three month void...though with the pacing probably only a month in Salem time. But the screen caps I saw and the details from people that watched the show make me not really care about much else except seeing some movement in their romance. But yes Sonny needs development along with that. But I do feel we are slowly getting to see more about him. But yes he does need much more focus. The perfect place for Sonny's story to go would be to have him drawn to Will and deal with a classic head versus heart struggle. He knows Will is a hot mess, but he's still drawn to him. Will was very good to him when he first hit town, and they worked very well together through the website story. So there is a foundation of something other than Will talking about his problems.
I do wish the Ian plot hadn't been dropped like a stone, since he was an investor in Common Grounds. That might have given his own crisis.
I am very hopeful that now that Sonny is showing up in a lot of spoilers, we'll get some development of his character.
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Jun 25 2012, 09:14 PM
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I really want EJole back together, otherwise what is the point of her being pregnant! I hope something will come of Nicole's snooping, reignite the spark! hehe. I love Lumi also but this time around isn't as dynamic as it was in the past. Its sort of like the 2 of them have been watered down and Lucas is made to be boring.
That's exactly what they're doing. They are writing Lucas much like they wrote Austin. I love Lucas and though he has his moments, he is no Mr. Nice Guy. These writers are not writing Lucas and Sami's dynamic at full force. You remember how Lucas/sami would banter sbout everything. They would go back and forth adlibbing we have seen none of that none of the fun sassy side of Lumi. If it wasn't for how well Ali and Bry work together and their characters' histories this would not work. Yes! I co-sign this post. I have enjoyed the few Lumi moments I have been charitably allowed thus far, but some of that enjoyment is overcompensation for the fact these scenes will be few and far between, and probably undone in the next episode, so better enjoy and savor what I can get. But the banter, the really wonderful zippity zip zip back and forth - it's been lacking a little. We have seen some banter, some ad-libbing, and the ease is always there because the actors are just so wonderful together. But it hasn't been at full throttle fersure. And that makes me sad. Tomorrow's episode makes me sad. I have to stop caring so much. But Ali and Bry's chemistry keeps pulling me in - such a drug they are.
But yes - so much truth in this. Thanks for saying it.
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Jun 25 2012, 09:20 PM
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He simply feels "it' for Will. And me as a viewer has seen it since day one but I get that is subjective. They have built as friends for a year and now the flirting is actually beginning and it's not just from Sonny. It's Will basically asking Sonny out on a date and he doesn't even realize it's a date :wub: . Has the build up been perfect? No way. Sonny was probably almost written out of the show or close to it not seeing him for three months. There was a three month void...though with the pacing probably only a month in Salem time. But the screen caps I saw and the details from people that watched the show make me not really care about much else except seeing some movement in their romance. But yes Sonny needs development along with that. But I do feel we are slowly getting to see more about him. But yes he does need much more focus. I fully understand how the friendship from last year and the deep bond of trust and closeness they forged during Will's coming out process undoubtedly drew Sonny towards Will. I honestly don't know how anyone could have missed it, even Will. I simply think the show needs to explain why Sonny feels the way he does. Relying on scenes from months ago when the show was still portraying them as friends (despite what FS and CM added to the scenes) does not tell the complete story. Granted, this could well be part of a grand confession Sonny makes when he finally opens his heart to Will, and that's perfectly fine. I'm less concerned about when it happens than I am about if it happens. There are several ways Days could play this. I hope they don't take their ball and go home by having this event occur offscreen.
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Jun 25 2012, 10:06 PM
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Saw the day ahead. It's a good show. Things are moving along nicely. One thing's for sure, This show is one more proof if how slimy Nicole is and what a jackass Rafe is.
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Jun 25 2012, 10:59 PM
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No Dicole after talk or buttoning up their clothes or getting dressed means for me they did not have sex. Until they say it, it didn't happen. . I can go with that. That means that Lumi sex didn't happen either, and I can totally live with that.
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Jun 25 2012, 11:23 PM
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I'm can't wait to see this! I have miss ejami fights! Aww thats so sweet that EJ keeps a picture of Sami and the kids .. Sami says grrr I hate you God I hate you.l (EJ is laughing) SAmi turns around and says go ahead under estimate me. I dare you. She leaves and EJ laughs :wub: What Sami hates is that after everything, she still can't hate him.
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Jun 26 2012, 12:11 AM
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Alli have to say is Will/Sonny was freakin adorable. The way Sonny smiles when Lucas asks him if he has feelings for Will.... :wub: And Will basically asks him on a date. ADORABLE!! Finally seeing some personality shine through Sonny.
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Jun 26 2012, 12:29 AM
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I dont get the Ej and Sami thing or the Ej and Will thing, to me its all disgusting. She shot him in the head, that does not spell love to me. Neither does death by lethal injection. Only on soaps lol
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Jun 26 2012, 12:34 AM
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Alli have to say is Will/Sonny was freakin adorable. The way Sonny smiles when Lucas asks him if he has feelings for Will.... :wub: And Will basically asks him on a date. ADORABLE!! Finally seeing some personality shine through Sonny. I thought that was great too. The way Sonny said, "I can't believe I am saying this"...SMILE. Very nice. And, after watching the Lumi and Will scenes for tomorrow, I was surprised at how much I liked the scenes with Sonny and Lucas. Wilson on the stairs (such an odd place, that HTS) and Sonny and Lucas were the best parts of the epi for me. Surprised at the getting-along-chemistry BD and FS had. Kept me from completely ripping my hair out.
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Jun 26 2012, 01:49 AM
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I feel like none of the storylines are well defined. Just a bunch of scenes strung together. if there are actual thoughtful stories they are so dull and bland that they feel like they don't really exist.
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Jun 26 2012, 01:57 AM
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`` It feels like moments, no stories. Just enough though to make characters that should be loved, ones I find that I'm indifferent to.
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Jun 26 2012, 04:24 AM
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I dont get the Ej and Sami thing or the Ej and Will thing, to me its all disgusting. She shot him in the head, that does not spell love to me.
Neither does death by lethal injection. Only on soaps lol Lethal injection? Kate and Sami? I never saw them as a couple.
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Jun 26 2012, 07:55 AM
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I dont get the Ej and Sami thing or the Ej and Will thing, to me its all disgusting. She shot him in the head, that does not spell love to me.
Neither does death by lethal injection. Only on soaps lol
Lethal injection? Kate and Sami? I never saw them as a couple. We all know Lucas was in on that, too. If he'd just told Roman the truth after the accident where he almost killed himself and Will*, it never would have gotten to the point where Sami was on death row. If you want Sami in a semi healthy relationship, your choices are Brandon or Rafe.
*Since last time this came up, it was claimed that Lucas woke up from his coma with amnesia and had no idea what Kate had done for months: A little over two real life weeks after Franco was killed; during the span of one Salem day, Lucas dreams about killing Franco, wakes up from the coma, clams up when Roman questions him, learns that Kate framed Sami and tells her she's doing the wrong thing. And just for fun: Lucas decides it would be great for Sami to be in prison and tells Kate he's come to that conclusion because Sami tried to kill him.
-the bold print are links.
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Jun 26 2012, 07:55 AM
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Count me as one who has seen Sonny crushing on Will for months. From the coffee card scene, to when Will came out to Sonny, to when Sonny was seriously irritated with Will for pretending they were together - it's all added up to attraction, to Sonny feeling close enough to Will to share emotionally intimate moments and to call Will on his shit. Will? I think he may like Sonny deep down, but really he's taken advantage of Sonny's feelings for him by using Sonny as a sounding board and then run off to "hang out" with Neil off screen. If I were a friend of Sonny's, I'd tell him to find someone better than Will. And I've shipped Wilson for months.
As little as they give him to do, FS generally does a great job with making Sonny less of a busy body and a kill joy that the recaps sound like he might be. He puts inflections in his voice and uses his puppy dog eyes to great effect. That said, if Wilson is going to work - Sonny needs his own stories and he needs to make mistakes. Tomorrow sounds like the first scene in six months that is actually about Sonny's point of view. Maybe caring for Will could be his first big mistake. I think that could be true and Wilson still be endgame.
Also, at this point, Will is by no means ready for a relationship with Sonny. But that could be used to good effect in the story, if they are given one. I hope you are right. I don't think Will is mature enough to be in a real relationship with Sonny quite yet. I REALLY like FS and adore Sonny...but they really need to get on with it and give hime something new to do. I get it. Being gay isn't bad. I already knew this but thanks. Now...how about giving Sonny more personality than that? He's a Kiriakis for fuck's sake! He can't be THAT perfect all the time...And with all the shit Will has going on, I definitely can see falling for him as a mistake right now...but WilSon HAVE to be endgame. Been waiting too damned long for them! :wub:
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Jun 26 2012, 07:59 AM
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- Jun 25 2012, 04:56 PM
Saw the scenes with Lucas and Sonny... Y'all don't shoot me but Lucas and Sonny have chemistry.. I'm not lying! Of course love the EJ/Sami and the EJ/Will scenes.. :wub: LOL I could get down with that. I'd feel sorry for Will but at least Lucas would have something to do besides follow SlamMe around.
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