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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
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Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,752 Views)
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July 9th spoilers. Go!
Oh fine, I see your subtle hint. - Quote:
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Gabi plans a fun outing with Chad
I nominate the above for the week's least interesting spoiler.
But don't you want to know if the outing is going to be good for Gabi or bad for Gabi? Haha. I was just going to post something similar. We have to find out whether the spoiler will be interesting for some and not so interesting for others.
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July 9th spoilers. Go!
Oh fine, I see your subtle hint. - Quote:
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Gabi plans a fun outing with Chad
I nominate the above for the week's least interesting spoiler.
But don't you want to know if the outing is going to be good for Gabi or bad for Gabi?
Haha. I was just going to post something similar. We have to find out whether the spoiler will be interesting for some and not so interesting for others. 5 bucks says she plans on them going strawberry picking.
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Jun 27 2012, 03:44 PM
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July 9th spoilers. Go!
We could always talk about Daniel & Nicole being swept away with passion. Riveting.
I'm all for Dicole or Dacole or Danicole or Dickie (my fav) sexy time, as long as they don't even utter the L-word for at least three months. The manwhore vs. the tramp is a good dynamic. Agreed, but I like Dikki.
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History doesn't seem to mean shit anymore....case in point, Sami shot EJ IN THE HEAD. From what we have seen in the past few weeks, EJ is in love with Nicole. And Nicole fell in love with EJ...until he fucked her over again. Like she said, EJ has done worse to her than fuck Sami...it's not about Sami until the writers need to throw a bone. For some fucked up and totally stupid reason, the writers want to toy with the nauseating relationship of EJ and the Swine, so they have to get Nicole out of there so it can work. Introduce the sloppy and unexpected Dicole. And as soon as #TeamAS gets bored by all the flattery, Sami will get to kick EJ in the balls again and humiliate him before SuperRafe saves the day. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. But I guess as long as people eat it up...
Hmmm...so if we can't count history then it's fair to assume that we can't count ANY of it, right? So that leaves us with the here and now...and as I see it if EJ were so inclined to make a choice between Nicole or Sami it wouldn't be a tough call. At the moment, Nicole is raking him over the coals every chance she gets - screwing him out of having any involvement with the impending birth of their baby, insisting it's someone else's kid, going to elaborate lengths to deceive him - such as screwing the good doctor that helped her alter the paternity test and now playing on EJ's emotions and concern for her (and using their baby to do it) so she can illegally search his apartment in the hope of finding evidence to send him to jail - and out of their kid's life (and that of his other kids) permanently. And all because she thinks he 'fucked her over' when he fucked Sami - after being forced to sign divorce papers. Sami, on the other hand, has been stepping up to offer support and compassion to him repeatedly of late. She was the first person he told about Lexie's diagnosis, she offered comfort both immediately after Stefano was killed and by bringing the kids to the house for the visitation. Even when they argue they end up laughing about it. There is no real animosity between them at the moment - certainly not on the level he's dealing with Nicole. And EJ's been shown to be affected by his feelings for Sami...in his conversation with Will, gazing at the photo of her and the kids, and apparently in the upcoming scenes regarding the 'tension' filled fight.
On the second part of the post, so much of that is exactly why, after several weeks of contrived Ejami scenes and sudden BFF-ery, I became convinced MarDar or whomever were writing for Ejami. And that can mean anything -- writing for Ejami to actually happen, writing for Ejami to be heavily, heavily suggested, writing for Ejami so that other relationships would be affected by the oppressive Ejaminess in the air, etc. My goodness has EJ had a lot of reasons to need comforting. Comforting over the news of Lexie's illness; comforting over not being Stefano's son; comforting over Stefano's death; comforting over Lexie's death; etc. Now, don't get me wrong - I am not blind that these storylines are meaningful for more than how they may prop Ejami. Lexie was loved by many people - her death will likely resonate for long awhile, and I am not heartless to the loss suffered by Theo, Abe, Celeste, Lexie's friends, etc. And I don't doubt EJ's loss is genuine too - it does very little to pull at my heart-strings, but I don't doubt he loved and is grieving Lexie. But it iiiiiiiiiiisssssssss convenient for Sami to always be there. Gives her a chance to see EJ in a different light, to go awwwwwwww, see him and the kids together, etc. There is no real animosity at the moment when there should be - where there SHOULD BE, at least a little more than the "arguments" I have seen so far. Sami goes to confront EJ about Will. Don't you think he has more than just this to worry about, says Sami. EJ says, Sami, Will is not the only one going through shit right now, why don't you think about someone other than yourself, think about what I might be going through. I nearly vomited right there on the spot. First, way to flip the conversation back to you, EJ. Second, Sami is not unaware of what EJ is going though, but she was there to talk about Will, b/c really why should she care about EJ's sadness or whatever more than her son's safety? But, no, she is just shown there saying, I am sorry, I know you are going through so much right now, etc. etc. Awwwww. And all of EJ's gazing at well-timed flustered-ness....it seems to be a liittttllllle much, in my opinion. But that is likely also because I do not like them, so it seems pretttyyy contrived and barf-worthy to me. One who is a fan may just go crazy for such scenes, love them, think they are perfectly natural and appropriate and wonderful. In any event, that "contrived" line can be used about any part of this show, and especially for parts individual viewers do not like. It's just been clear to me for awhile now where all this Ejami bonding or whatever has been going, and this week's spoilers are just added confirmation. For Sami and EJ to go from hating each other over how the deadbabysex destroyed their marriages,to months of sudden BFF moments that, very obviously to me, have been building towards something, does seem forced and with a clear design in mind. All I know is that the Ejami spoilers make me sad. I really, really, really hate them together, and that will never change, and no amount of chemistry, no matter how forbidden and sexy it might seem to some, will change that for me. I am fine with Sami and EJ forgiving each other for their past misdeeds, I am fine with Sami forgiving EJ for raping her twice (once by proxy); I am fine with EJ forgiving Sami for shooting him in the head, etc. Ah, those lovable scamps!!!! :sarcasm: But I will never accept them as a thing, as a couple....I will never accept what any writer is trying to sell me as passing between them as love. It's just not my cup of tea, those are just my opinions, I have my reasons for liking and defending one couple over another. After all the debates are done, after the lists of items like, "this crime is worse" and "NO, THIS crime is worse," are tallied and compared, at the end of the day my opinion will not change. They will never work for me, and I will not watch them. Add to that the fact that Lucas is made to seem like the third wheel AGAIN, or that he is the only one seen to be fighting to protect his family, or that this family which I love so much is not working together against a common enemy, but is now maybe split because of said person (ahem, EJ)....I am done. I love dysfunction and turmoil as much as the next person. But as another poster said, where are the families working together?? Seems like to keep something like that interesting would be more challenging to write, and thus the payoff and experience of watching would be so much more satisfying. A part of me wants it to be Lucas to set up EJ - would be retribution for a lot - but a greater part doesn't. It might ultimately give Sami reason to turn away from him, and of course that is the last thing I want. It might be Ian too, or someone working for the SPD. And for the spoiler immediately preceding the setting-up spoiler to be about Lucas protecting his family - the juxtaposition there seems a little too obvious.....But who knows. This is too exhausting. Let this kind of writing continue, but I don't have to support it. I have been down this road before, I have seen this same storyline over and over gain. John's spoiler is interesting. But spare me the rest. ^^^Love this post. I.T.A.
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James usually says the storylines he is featured in are BRILLIANT, Exciting...etc. BUT this time even HE said in an interview that the show is totally unwatchable now. Boy, he wasn't kidding. Those spoilers are so horrible, that even the actor forced to act in the scenes are calling it unwatchable...THAT IS BAD!! I was told that even JS and AS didn't understand the scenes with Sami and EJ being BFFs--so how could they NOT be shaking their heads in disbelief when they read where Sami knows this man is blackmailing her son, but she still is hanging around him??? Who does that???
I am so glad the seriously deranged MARDAR team is long gone. If Gary T can save this mess, he will be a hero of sorts. No way can Tomlin save this show.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
We'll all be sorry soon, I think.
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July 9th spoilers. Go!
We could always talk about Daniel & Nicole being swept away with passion. Riveting.
I'm all for Dicole or Dacole or Danicole or Dickie (my fav) sexy time, as long as they don't even utter the L-word for at least three months. The manwhore vs. the tramp is a good dynamic. I'm all for it also, as long as they never utter the L-word. I WANT EJOLE. But Dacole is a goooood substitute so far until I get my Ejole. I could watch Dacole get their freak on. They are uber hot.
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She's not delusional if she says that at all, that would be totally in character for Sami.
Well you are right about that :P
Let's be more accurate. That is totally in character to this poorly written, out of character Sami. The real Sami Brady wouldn't even be sitting at the table. This show learned nothing from the summer of EJami. I think they learned a hell of a lot, which is Keep a gag on Kenny C. His telling everyone not no bother watching the Summer of 2010 because they would be returning to the Safe Suckfest Is what caused a lot of tuneouts. Whoever did stay around got to watch the gross shooting/bleeding and safe sex scenes intercut together. I'll never get the image of that garbage out of my brain.
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Well you are right about that :P
Let's be more accurate. That is totally in character to this poorly written, out of character Sami. The real Sami Brady wouldn't even be sitting at the table. This show learned nothing from the summer of EJami.
I think they learned a hell of a lot, which is Keep a gag on Kenny C. His telling everyone not no bother watching the Summer of 2010 because they would be returning to the Safe Suckfest Is what caused a lot of tuneouts. Whoever did stay around got to watch the gross shooting/bleeding and safe sex scenes intercut together. I'll never get the image of that garbage out of my brain. Speaking of Kenny boy has he been quite............ :flipoff:
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LUCAS is clearly being set up as the third wheel to whomever SAMI has eyes for. Sami wants her cake and eat it too! Lucas comes home to save her and she treats him more like a brother than a lover.
She doesn't say ILU back to him. Sami can't stand to be alone. She always has to have some man around to soothe her insecuritie. Sami is going to end up under EJ again because she can't help herself. EJ was staring at the picture of Sami and the kids. All those two need now is catalyst to light that smoldering fire,then look out.
What exactly is so different about this time than say 2010 with Ejami? I see no difference. Sami still doesn't know he set up John and when she finds out she's going to kick him to the curb again. Plus I don't buy that Sami wouldn't have a bigger problem with Ej blackmailing her son again. Regardless of how Will feels, Sami in character would have a huge problem with that. I don't get this thing about her not saying ILY to Lucas....she's said it many times before and he JUST declared his love for her.....just as before, it'll take her a while to say it....not the first or the last time it happens.
Oh I dont know, earlier this week did not look like brother sister to me. Him in her robe, her in his boxers, that looks like lovers to me, and pretty darn hot ones at that! My husband who is totally impartial to the Ejami stuff, has turned up his nose when he saw nasty dead baby sex. He saw Ejole and went, that is hot! He's seen the scenes of them when they had massages, and I agree, that type of writing is hot. He loved all the Ej and Nicole mayor story line. He also does like Lumi very much, especially these latest scenes. I love a man's point of view on this stuff, its so biased free lol. Thats not a slam against anyone on here, its just the way I see them and my husband sees them. Omg, him in a woman's robe with his belly hanging over the belt was not something I needed to see. Not sexy at all.
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Let's be more accurate. That is totally in character to this poorly written, out of character Sami. The real Sami Brady wouldn't even be sitting at the table. This show learned nothing from the summer of EJami.
I think they learned a hell of a lot, which is Keep a gag on Kenny C. His telling everyone not no bother watching the Summer of 2010 because they would be returning to the Safe Suckfest Is what caused a lot of tuneouts. Whoever did stay around got to watch the gross shooting/bleeding and safe sex scenes intercut together. I'll never get the image of that garbage out of my brain.
Speaking of Kenny boy has he been quite............ :flipoff: Thank you soap Jesus. :hail:
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I think I'm going to send some sympathy cards to a few actors: AZ, MA, BD, JS, for starters.............Oh, and WK and JE.Lessee....did I leave anyone out?
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What exactly is so different about this time than say 2010 with Ejami? I see no difference. Sami still doesn't know he set up John and when she finds out she's going to kick him to the curb again. Plus I don't buy that Sami wouldn't have a bigger problem with Ej blackmailing her son again. Regardless of how Will feels, Sami in character would have a huge problem with that. I don't get this thing about her not saying ILY to Lucas....she's said it many times before and he JUST declared his love for her.....just as before, it'll take her a while to say it....not the first or the last time it happens.
Oh I dont know, earlier this week did not look like brother sister to me. Him in her robe, her in his boxers, that looks like lovers to me, and pretty darn hot ones at that! My husband who is totally impartial to the Ejami stuff, has turned up his nose when he saw nasty dead baby sex. He saw Ejole and went, that is hot! He's seen the scenes of them when they had massages, and I agree, that type of writing is hot. He loved all the Ej and Nicole mayor story line. He also does like Lumi very much, especially these latest scenes. I love a man's point of view on this stuff, its so biased free lol. Thats not a slam against anyone on here, its just the way I see them and my husband sees them.
Omg, him in a woman's robe with his belly hanging over the belt was not something I needed to see. Not sexy at all. ICAM!Lucas looked a hot mess in that robe..the first thing I zoomed in on was his pot belly :drunk:
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I know right! EJ has chosen other women over Nicole so many times. Nothing about EJ & Nicole makes sense. I wish we didn't have to be subjected to watching any more of their boring scenes. EJ & Nicole have had 4 attempts at a romance and have no chemistry. Nicole deserves someone that will make her their #1 priority, whether it's Rafe, Brady, Daniel or Eric.
Doesn't EJ deserve the same thing?
Nicole did put EJ first.She took him back after he kicked her and Sidney out the mansion,had an affair with her sister and rubbed it in her face,he played a major role in the death of her mother, and broke his promise to be honest with her.If that is not putting him first,I don't know what that phrase means.I want EJ,Nicole,and the baby together but if she never forgives him,helps get his arrested, and/or hides the baby until s/he graduates from college.I don't have a signficant problem with it.Whether she is actually his back up or not,she feels that she was his second choice.She owes him nothing.He did not have one night stand sex with some insignficant woman,he did it with Sami who hates Nicole and with whom he has children. The only person Nicole has ever put first is Nicole. And I'm ok with that, especially right now.
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Jun 27 2012, 06:22 PM
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What exactly is so different about this time than say 2010 with Ejami? I see no difference. Sami still doesn't know he set up John and when she finds out she's going to kick him to the curb again. Plus I don't buy that Sami wouldn't have a bigger problem with Ej blackmailing her son again. Regardless of how Will feels, Sami in character would have a huge problem with that. I don't get this thing about her not saying ILY to Lucas....she's said it many times before and he JUST declared his love for her.....just as before, it'll take her a while to say it....not the first or the last time it happens.
Oh I dont know, earlier this week did not look like brother sister to me. Him in her robe, her in his boxers, that looks like lovers to me, and pretty darn hot ones at that! My husband who is totally impartial to the Ejami stuff, has turned up his nose when he saw nasty dead baby sex. He saw Ejole and went, that is hot! He's seen the scenes of them when they had massages, and I agree, that type of writing is hot. He loved all the Ej and Nicole mayor story line. He also does like Lumi very much, especially these latest scenes. I love a man's point of view on this stuff, its so biased free lol. Thats not a slam against anyone on here, its just the way I see them and my husband sees them.
Omg, him in a woman's robe with his belly hanging over the belt was not something I needed to see. Not sexy at all. He's got a nice firm belly and he's super hot. That is sexy to the ultimate and in no way forced. Lucas and Sami imho is super hot! Lucas is hot!
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Oh I dont know, earlier this week did not look like brother sister to me. Him in her robe, her in his boxers, that looks like lovers to me, and pretty darn hot ones at that! My husband who is totally impartial to the Ejami stuff, has turned up his nose when he saw nasty dead baby sex. He saw Ejole and went, that is hot! He's seen the scenes of them when they had massages, and I agree, that type of writing is hot. He loved all the Ej and Nicole mayor story line. He also does like Lumi very much, especially these latest scenes. I love a man's point of view on this stuff, its so biased free lol. Thats not a slam against anyone on here, its just the way I see them and my husband sees them.
Omg, him in a woman's robe with his belly hanging over the belt was not something I needed to see. Not sexy at all.
He's got a nice firm belly and he's super hot. That is sexy to the ultimate and in no way forced. Lucas and Sami imho is super hot! Lucas is hot! Bryan's belly may be firm, but it certainly didn't show in that ridiculous robe. He looked like he had a beer belly. IMO, Lucas did not look hot or sexy in those scenes.
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well thats yho, mine is that the only reason its happening at all and being said is bc of Ej and I stand by what I say. on to other things, I will be watching just the clips I want to see that week and avoiding all the ejami scenes nicely! I love being able to see what I want to and not what I don't!
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Jun 27 2012, 06:34 PM
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.
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oh another reason I watch is bc of John Black. I hope he sure as heck gives Ej a run for his money with the Dimera stuff. That will be good watching!
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Jun 27 2012, 06:36 PM
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Omg, him in a woman's robe with his belly hanging over the belt was not something I needed to see. Not sexy at all.
He's got a nice firm belly and he's super hot. That is sexy to the ultimate and in no way forced. Lucas and Sami imho is super hot! Lucas is hot!
Bryan's belly may be firm, but it certainly didn't show in that ridiculous robe. He looked like he had a beer belly. IMO, Lucas did not look hot or sexy in those scenes. Sadly, I agree. Someone effed up in wardrobe because that was not a good look on BD and I know he looks better than that. A tank top/shirtless with shorts would have been just fine. But the robe, no bueno. It's not the first time nor will it be the last wardrobe picks out something unflattering on an actor's figure.
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Jun 27 2012, 06:41 PM
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GAG ME. Thumbs down. Zzzzzz
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Jun 27 2012, 07:10 PM
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But why would EJ have tried to break up Safe when both he and Sami agreed the grief sex was a mistake? Particularly when Nicole came to him immediately afterward and told him she wanted to be with him? There was no reason for EJ to set about busting up Safe and expect Sami to jump into his arms - but that's not an indication that if both Nicole and Sami were openly pursuing a relationship with him he wouldn't have chosen Sami. Should that ever happen we'll have our answer as to who EJ would 'choose' - but as of now he's never really been given an option.
Having Sami attached to someone, or having her say it's wrong or a mistake has never stopped him from at least trying, or pursuing her, he spent from 2006 through 2008 attempted to have Sami regardless of what Sami was saying and how she was feeling. This time around, he didn't bother with that, why? Because he loved Nicole over Sami at that particular point. That is all I'm saying.....
I disagree. He may not have been obsessively pursuing Sami at that point - but I don't see that as a bad thing. Nicole immediately offered herself to him after the grief sex - and Sami returned to Rafe. But it doesn't negate that the grief sex happened - for whatever reason. If given a choice, I'd love to see who he would actually choose. (Mostly because I'd really love to see a story unfold of Sami openly pursuing EJ :wub: )
Isn't Sami openly pursuing him now by always running to him for shit, befriending him after all the horrible shit (including attempted murder via shot in the head) and being "there" for him? She isn't too subtle. Seriously though, I don't think the writers don't know who to pair her with. She's a 30 something woman/child with four kids she can't take care of, a job she is not qualified for, and she is jealous of her own family, and apparently she can't forgive or forget things in the past that happened many years ago. She does conveniently forget that EJ has treated her like shit and done horrible things to her and still she, IMHO, loves him. Marlena, on the other hand , is treated like the dogshit on her shoe. And all Marlena does is love her. Sigh. I used to like her when she was a conniving bitch. :shutup:
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