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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
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Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,747 Views)
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confusedbyitall
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Jun 29 2012, 10:34 AM
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- Jun 29 2012, 10:10 AM
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I see him backing away from it....but I also can see maybe TomSell's tweaks coming into play here.....the planting of the evidence in Ej's apartment after Lucas vows to defend his family and this confrontation takes place with Ej might just be leading to at least a suspicion by the audience that Lucas might be the one that plants the evidence. IMHO I think it's going to be someone else, maybe Bo now that he's on his way out, or Ian before he leaves town.....or it may turn out to be Lucas after all.....I think all this talk of him changing and maturing was fine until he got around sami again. She pushes his buttons and it would be good for Lucas to go back to his scheming ways.....as I always thought it should be with Sami....to scheme to protect those you love....
Unfortunately, I don't have much hope for Lucas under Tomlin. Not only based on history, but also because of BD's tweet this week asking them to write more for Lucas. If they are going to throw Ejami back together (probably under the guise of needing them to team up to hang on to DE), then it makes much more sense to have Ejucas as adversaries - both for Sami and in business - rather than Ejafe. But based on GT's unfathomable love of GG and based on recent tweets about who seems to be working together, I'm afraid we are going to get more crap about SuperRafe saving sweet, innocent Sami from the clutches of the evil DiMera. I know I should try to be more positive, but I've burned too many times to have hope for this show under Tomlin's control.
Yeah, if Tomlin wasn't writing I would be more optimistic, but yeah I get what you are saying.....still want to think that they won't totally waste Bryan this time, but then again GT is there so I have absolutely no hope. Wonder if they are going with an Ejami "partnership" because they are trying to keep John from taking over DiMera Enterprises. They both apparently hate John.
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LuvingLumi
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Jun 29 2012, 10:44 AM
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- brazen
- Jun 29 2012, 10:27 AM
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Lucas finally seeing that EJ has a magic hold over those he loves---- I'd love to see Lucas and EJ go at it in physical dual. Lucas playing loser to EJ, is just more EJ pimping. It mush have been in his contract. Lucas brought back as just a 'filler' for Sami, while she's in between men. Not what I wanted to see. Another MARDAR epic fail.
Didn't Lucas know this when he first came to town? IIRC he was the one telling Sami about her unresolved EJ feelings. He just looks stupid now to be behaving this way when he had brains when his character first returned. It makes him have himself to blame.
I guess he believed Sami when she said she didn't.....and she showed enough jealousy at his fiancee and even cancelled his plane ride back to HK, I guess that convinced him that at least she still had unresolved feelings for him too. Heck.....I can't fault him for being in love.... I also think we have to remember that it's about 'his loved ones', that includes Sami obviously but not too far behind is Will, who is working for the guy and being blackmailed to do it, regardless of how Will feels, it's still not going to be something that Lucas will accept.
Lucas is blind then. The thing with Will is he's not really being blackmailed to do it. Blackmail or no blackmail he still would choose to work for EJ. Lucas needs to see his son isn't a baby anymore. Babies don't take apart revolvers and deposit the pieces all over town. Frankly that's smarter than EJ who threw his gloves in a dumpster (to no doubt be found soon enough). It was his baby boy that started this relationship with EJ by blackmailing him first. Lucas has blame EJ for everything tunnel vision. When Will and even Sami are around him because they choose to be. Lucas isn't blind, he's in love.....no different that Ej still wanted to be with Sami after she SHOT HIM IN THE HEAD....so it's not unforeseen.....that Lucas is just going into this with his heart over his head...it happens.
Ej is blackmailing Will with the truth about the shooting coming out.....it might not matter anymore,but Ej still has the truth in his grasp knowing that he can use that against him at any time. The story is about to shift so obviously Will is going to get the upper hand soon. In the end, if Ej cared so much about Sami, he wouldn't blackmail her son, period
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LuvingLumi
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Jun 29 2012, 10:45 AM
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!
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- confusedbyitall
- Jun 29 2012, 10:34 AM
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- Jun 29 2012, 10:10 AM
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- Jun 29 2012, 09:52 AM
- LuvingLumi
- Jun 29 2012, 09:39 AM
I see him backing away from it....but I also can see maybe TomSell's tweaks coming into play here.....the planting of the evidence in Ej's apartment after Lucas vows to defend his family and this confrontation takes place with Ej might just be leading to at least a suspicion by the audience that Lucas might be the one that plants the evidence. IMHO I think it's going to be someone else, maybe Bo now that he's on his way out, or Ian before he leaves town.....or it may turn out to be Lucas after all.....I think all this talk of him changing and maturing was fine until he got around sami again. She pushes his buttons and it would be good for Lucas to go back to his scheming ways.....as I always thought it should be with Sami....to scheme to protect those you love....
Unfortunately, I don't have much hope for Lucas under Tomlin. Not only based on history, but also because of BD's tweet this week asking them to write more for Lucas. If they are going to throw Ejami back together (probably under the guise of needing them to team up to hang on to DE), then it makes much more sense to have Ejucas as adversaries - both for Sami and in business - rather than Ejafe. But based on GT's unfathomable love of GG and based on recent tweets about who seems to be working together, I'm afraid we are going to get more crap about SuperRafe saving sweet, innocent Sami from the clutches of the evil DiMera. I know I should try to be more positive, but I've burned too many times to have hope for this show under Tomlin's control.
Yeah, if Tomlin wasn't writing I would be more optimistic, but yeah I get what you are saying.....still want to think that they won't totally waste Bryan this time, but then again GT is there so I have absolutely no hope.
Wonder if they are going with an Ejami "partnership" because they are trying to keep John from taking over DiMera Enterprises. They both apparently hate John. I don't doubt that, it might be the plan for the summer. Sami's hate for John is only so deep, once Sami realizes what Ej did to John, and what it lead to and who it could have hurt then she will kick him to the curb and try to get Lucas back in her circle....I just hope Lucas tells her to go fly a kite....
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Jun 29 2012, 10:48 AM
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- Jun 28 2012, 05:31 PM
National Enquirer Spoilers -EJ receives the result to the polygraph test. -Dan gets a distressing call from Carly. -John reveals his intent to take control of the family empire. -An epic confrontation builds between Lucas and EJ. -Rafe finds something shocking in EJ's apartment. -Chad finds Melanie's bracelet in Andrew's house. Let's question the obvious Fuckery: why the hell is Chad at Andrew's house?!?!?
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lysie
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Jun 29 2012, 10:55 AM
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- mer4santo
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- Angie79
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National Enquirer Spoilers -EJ receives the result to the polygraph test. -Dan gets a distressing call from Carly. -John reveals his intent to take control of the family empire. -An epic confrontation builds between Lucas and EJ. -Rafe finds something shocking in EJ's apartment. -Chad finds Melanie's bracelet in Andrew's house.
Let's question the obvious Fuckery: why the hell is Chad at Andrew's house?!?!? Why does Andrew get a house when half of Salem lives in a hotel?
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elci525
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Jun 29 2012, 10:58 AM
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Andrew lives in a house? I imagined him always living in that dark room or in a warehouse somewhere
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LonePirate
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Jun 29 2012, 10:59 AM
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- lysie
- Jun 29 2012, 10:55 AM
Why does Andrew get a house when half of Salem lives in a hotel? Probably because he's more interesting and entertaining than half of Salem.
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Kyan
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Jun 29 2012, 11:31 AM
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There had better be a good reason chad is at Andrews unless it's for Andrew to knock him off. It's too soon to let out the wack job. I say if she has to be freed September 27 th is the right day.
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LuvingLumi
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Jun 29 2012, 11:36 AM
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- lysie
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- Jun 28 2012, 05:31 PM
National Enquirer Spoilers -EJ receives the result to the polygraph test. -Dan gets a distressing call from Carly. -John reveals his intent to take control of the family empire. -An epic confrontation builds between Lucas and EJ. -Rafe finds something shocking in EJ's apartment. -Chad finds Melanie's bracelet in Andrew's house.
Let's question the obvious Fuckery: why the hell is Chad at Andrew's house?!?!?
Why does Andrew get a house when half of Salem lives in a hotel? isn't Andrew's basement where this guy is keeping Mel
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Honeybees
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Jun 29 2012, 11:36 AM
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- Jun 29 2012, 10:59 AM
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Why does Andrew get a house when half of Salem lives in a hotel?
Probably because he's more interesting and entertaining than half of Salem. But something still tells me that we will never see the inside of either Will or Sonny's abodes.
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lysie
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Jun 29 2012, 12:00 PM
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National Enquirer Spoilers -EJ receives the result to the polygraph test. -Dan gets a distressing call from Carly. -John reveals his intent to take control of the family empire. -An epic confrontation builds between Lucas and EJ. -Rafe finds something shocking in EJ's apartment. -Chad finds Melanie's bracelet in Andrew's house.
Let's question the obvious Fuckery: why the hell is Chad at Andrew's house?!?!?
Why does Andrew get a house when half of Salem lives in a hotel?
isn't Andrew's basement where this guy is keeping Mel I think so, but I really never took the time to think about what that meant.
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Jun 29 2012, 12:06 PM
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Doesn't Andrew work for the photogs that do Gabi and Chad's shoots? I mean its still stupid for him to willingly let Chad over his house, but maybe he's getting cocky. I'm done with all of this.
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Jun 29 2012, 12:36 PM
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something tell me that rafe or nicole killed stefano and he tried to put evidence to make Ej is murder but the truth will come out do you agree with me? some people said that stefano not dead I know that the actor is a life in the read and I mean dead is in the series not in the real life.
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mer4santo
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Jun 29 2012, 12:57 PM
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National Enquirer Spoilers -EJ receives the result to the polygraph test. -Dan gets a distressing call from Carly. -John reveals his intent to take control of the family empire. -An epic confrontation builds between Lucas and EJ. -Rafe finds something shocking in EJ's apartment. -Chad finds Melanie's bracelet in Andrew's house.
Let's question the obvious Fuckery: why the hell is Chad at Andrew's house?!?!?
Why does Andrew get a house when half of Salem lives in a hotel? Half of Salem isn't mercifully storing Melanie in their basement. Kudos to Andrew for stepping up.
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Jun 29 2012, 07:40 PM
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- brazen
- Jun 29 2012, 10:27 AM
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Lucas finally seeing that EJ has a magic hold over those he loves---- I'd love to see Lucas and EJ go at it in physical dual. Lucas playing loser to EJ, is just more EJ pimping. It mush have been in his contract. Lucas brought back as just a 'filler' for Sami, while she's in between men. Not what I wanted to see. Another MARDAR epic fail.
Didn't Lucas know this when he first came to town? IIRC he was the one telling Sami about her unresolved EJ feelings. He just looks stupid now to be behaving this way when he had brains when his character first returned. It makes him have himself to blame.
I guess he believed Sami when she said she didn't.....and she showed enough jealousy at his fiancee and even cancelled his plane ride back to HK, I guess that convinced him that at least she still had unresolved feelings for him too. Heck.....I can't fault him for being in love.... I also think we have to remember that it's about 'his loved ones', that includes Sami obviously but not too far behind is Will, who is working for the guy and being blackmailed to do it, regardless of how Will feels, it's still not going to be something that Lucas will accept.
Lucas is blind then. The thing with Will is he's not really being blackmailed to do it. Blackmail or no blackmail he still would choose to work for EJ. Lucas needs to see his son isn't a baby anymore. Babies don't take apart revolvers and deposit the pieces all over town. Frankly that's smarter than EJ who threw his gloves in a dumpster (to no doubt be found soon enough). It was his baby boy that started this relationship with EJ by blackmailing him first. Lucas has blame EJ for everything tunnel vision. When Will and even Sami are around him because they choose to be. Sami was getting into trouble way before EJ drove into town and she'll still be getting into trouble after he sails out of town.
That's why she needs EJ so much so he can be the scapegoat for all her dramas.
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Jun 29 2012, 07:44 PM
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There had better be a good reason chad is at Andrews unless it's for Andrew to knock him off. It's too soon to let out the wack job. I say if she has to be freed September 27 th is the right day. Oooh that would leave Theo as the one true Dimera.
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Jun 29 2012, 08:17 PM
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- Jun 29 2012, 09:43 AM
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I don't think realizing it is the problem. Just because he knows it, doesn't mean he has to be okay with it. It was the same with EJ and Rafe. If Lucas backs off and lets them be, there's no drama. Which is why that's probably exactly what he'll do since MarDar aren't fans of drama.
Yep. It was interesting to read MA's interview with DR and how disappointed he, MR and SC were when they learned that Daniel was going to be sent off-screen. I felt the same way about it. Not only because I actually like SC/Daniel, but because I knew what that meant for Jack and Jen. If couples and characters aren't getting some kind of conflict and drama, either from their own relationship or from outside forces, they are going to be backburnered. Soap operas are meloDRAMAS, not nuanced character studies. Drama is what the whole genre is built on. Now, you want to have good characters, but the main point of shows like Days is to watch characters you love experience dramatic events and intense emotions. Without drama, couples, characters and the show overall becomes pointless. But there's a difference between good, interesting drama vs shitty, uninteresting drama.
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Jun 29 2012, 11:08 PM
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Yeah. Good, interesting drama has defined characters and logical progress. Days drama has neither.
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Jun 29 2012, 11:24 PM
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EJ and Sami sexual tension. The show finally roped me back in! Bout frackin time!
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Jun 29 2012, 11:30 PM
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!
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- lysie
- Jun 29 2012, 09:32 AM
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- Jun 29 2012, 12:26 AM
Lucas should recognize that despite his annoying warnings, neither Will or Sami can stay from EJ. Problem solved. Lucas needs to realize he's second fiddle to EJ for both Sami and Will :D Go EJAMI! Go EJILL!
The sooner he realizes it, the better ;)
I don't think realizing it is the problem. Just because he knows it, doesn't mean he has to be okay with it. It was the same with EJ and Rafe. If Lucas backs off and lets them be, there's no drama. Which is why that's probably exactly what he'll do since MarDar aren't fans of drama. I don't expect Lucas to back off, I know he is not going to do that. I am talking about the sooner he realizes that Sami can't stay away from Ej. I agree with you there is no drama if he was to just back off but I don't expect him to just let them be happy, without butting in. That is the same for any couple, there is always going to be someone that wants to intervene, typical soap.
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