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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,740 Views)
JamesScott_19
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Angie79
Jul 1 2012, 01:32 AM
Monday ("Taking the Test")
EJ consents to taking a polygraph test to prove his innocence; Nicole and Daniel can't fight their attraction.

Tuesday ("The Failed Test")
Will tells the police that EJ could not have killed Stefano; Daniel and Nicole discuss their relationship.

I love how Daniel and Nicole can't fight their attraction, then at the same time discuss their relationship.

There is no relationship, they just kissed, made love, and just had a dinner date.

Rinse and repeat, :shame:

I don't know how Will is going to prove Ej innocence, but I am sure that spoiler is not as how it is played out. Nevertheless, I love their bond.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

LuvingLumi
Jul 2 2012, 02:16 PM
Angie79
Jul 2 2012, 02:09 PM
Wednesday ("Coming Clean")
Sami tries to get EJ to open up to her; Chad receives an alarming call from Carly.
How is she going to do that by opening up her legs AGAIN?
It would'nt hurt :P
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

elci525
Jul 2 2012, 02:08 PM
EJamandBread
Jul 2 2012, 01:55 PM
elci525
Jul 2 2012, 01:23 PM
I am a diehard Lumi fan, and unfortunately I have to admit the reunion was rushed, and not written like it had lasting ability. I won't go so far to say Lumi were an insta-couple quite in the manner of Carrie and Rafe, or Abigail and Cameron, or Madison and Brady. At least, for those who are familiar with it (and there are a few of us out there), there was a long, rich history to support their reunion (although not enough narrative rebuild-up) and I am also of the mind that they never fell out of love with each other (forced apart from without). But even with all of that being true, and even though the huge fangirl in me thinks their reunion was actually too drawn out in that it's been four years or so, the writing for them this time has been like an afterthought. We have had a few wonderful scenes that fully reminded me of why I did and do still love Lumi so much, but so much has also been lacking. They have been written tamely, and it's been a disservice to what the couple has been and still can be. And that has made me incredibly sad.

And I also have to begrudgingly admit that, despite the fact that Sami and EJ went from spewing at each other one day, and the next day sharing wine and talking about "good sex" and being sudden besties, since that happened, the hinting they have been getting, the implications without overt declarations (like was the case with Lumi - I mean, they were saying they were "back together" after one day)...it does seem like that coupling has been getting a treatment that, in terms of soap opera writing, suggests they were they "real" couple being written for [it hurt my heart to say that just now]. Lumi had it too, when they refused to acknowledge how they felt at first. And you just knew back then all that suggestion and the build-up was indicative of SOMETHING, and would very likely lead to some big realization/payoff (as Lumi had).

So I know enough to recognize that is sort of pattern when it's happening, as it's playing out now a bit wieh Ejami, and holy mother it makes me sad and nervous. I still don't like it, I still think it's wrong and inexplicable. But I knew the instant Lumi got "back together," they were never the couple the writers intended to write as getting back together, if that makes sense. So MarDAr didn't give Lumis a Lumi reunion - they gave us some nice moments. But I am no idiot; I fully knew what those moments were in service of, what storyline they were being subsumed under. Monkey's paw indeed.

And again, it makes me so incredibly sad and disappointed.
But here is the thing: I think you are sad and disappointed because there is, literally nothing else going on on the show to interest you or root for. IMO, the reason all the fan base wars have gotten so out of hand is because there are NO interesting characters besides the few we are all always shipping. Maybe if Abigail and Cameron were giving us a compelling, root-able love story, it wouldn't hurt as much that we aren't getting our favorite couple (which probably has EJ or Sami as 50 percent of that couple, am I right?).

I have a favorite couple, and I'm dying to see them, but I have also been a soap fan long enough to know that if the rest of the stories are good, I an handle not getting my favorite pairing. Days mistake is not giving us build-up and payoff with anyone and relying solely on the talents of James and Alison to make other storylines interesting even without telling actual stories.
Hmmm....I think you give me a little more credit than I deserve. ;) I am sad and disappointed b/c my favorite pairing is being treated like a b-storyline in favor of another, less-favorable one....and it's a repeat of a time that was especially painful to me as a Lumi-girl. And I am smart enough to notice pretty heavy-handed soap writing when I see it, so I do see the writing on the wall, and that makes me sad.

It's my own fault for being ever-so-slightly-overly fanatical.

And I am just THAT big of an non-Ejami person.

But you are right that there is also nothing else to fill that void for me, as there are no real stories that I find compelling or intriguing on the show, enough to compensate for any sense of loss =) I see tidbits of interesting directions, but I do want to see real stories that involve lots of different characters (not just one or two) and make me feel like there is some deep connection between the various players on the canvas. I stopped watching Days for a little while, and that is the first thing I noticed when I came back - how isolated the characters and s/lines seemed to be. We had a return to this broader-connectiveness with Lexie's memorial, but that was one day and one very unique scenario. So yes, I want to see better stories.
I just have to tell you - despite the fact we're of polar opposite sides on preferred pairings I love your insightful and often funny posts. Often times I feel like you could interchange "EJami" where you've typed "Lumi" and I would swear you are inside my head.

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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

eugenie
Jul 2 2012, 04:24 PM
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Jul 1 2012, 12:52 PM
Hopeless_Dreamer
Jul 1 2012, 12:18 PM
tomsawyer
Jul 1 2012, 10:43 AM
Awh man, I'm worried they are going to ruin Dikki. Too much movement and too many discussions about the status of their relationship. C'mon writers, AZ/SC have great chemistry and you set up their dynamic well. Please don't ruin it by having them fall for each other quickly.

Well considering Tanman already sexed up his pregnant patient on a fucking desk after maybe two conversations its a little too late to even think about slow build with these two. Anyways we already know they are going back to Dannifer so there really is no need for tptb to build these two up as something when its not going to matter in three months.
If you blinked and didn't watch Days for a week and came back, one would have wondered where the hell did Dicole come from and how could Nicole sleep with that patient molestor? It's rushed, it's gross and it's gonna be over as fast as it began. Not fast enough. Daniel's heavy panting and breathing and looking at women like he wants to do bad, bad things to them is revolting. It reminds me of those dirty, hillbilly, toothless, perverts from the movie "Deliverance" that got pleasure from making that poor guy squeel like a pig. Does everyone have that picture in their head??? Well, that's how heinous and disgusting Daniel is. I'm gonna call him "Deliverance Dan" from now on. Sicko needs a name to signify just how perverted and gross he is. I want him off the show. Nicole, Jennifer even Chloe doesn't deserve the likes of that manwhore.
Man, the Racole banners disappeared fast. Oops! Guess the Dik Ole ones will pop up any day.

Nicole sure does make people see chemistry, even if her partners (Rafe, the Perv) have none of their own. Now, just get her back with her true mate, Elvis Junior Dimera. I have hope, now that the MerDe team has been sacked.
That's the beauty of chemistry - it's completely subjective. Some people see it in certain pairings, other's don't. It's what makes the world (and the fan base wars) go 'round. And round. And round and round....
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I am excited to see Ej open up to Sami assuming that he does. He needs to tell her that he is not a Dimera since everyone else who knew besides Will now, is dead. Feels good because if this was DH I would have never had wanted Ej to tell Sami anything b/c she would just use it against him, it doesn't feel that way now.
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So I wonder if the "coming clean" is EJ telling Sami that he's not a DiMera. I'm still thinking Ejami's upcoming story is them partnering up to hide that fact so he doesn't lose DE and she doesn't lose her job at CW.
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I'm just one of those fans that like to see some growth in a character. Having Nicole regress to how she was 5-10 years ago is not something I want to see. She can still scheme and be a bad girl while pregnant without sexing it up with most disgusting male in Salem. That's where I draw the line.
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tomsawyer
Jul 2 2012, 04:57 PM
So I wonder if the "coming clean" is EJ telling Sami that he's not a DiMera. I'm still thinking Ejami's upcoming story is them partnering up to hide that fact so he doesn't lose DE and she doesn't lose her job at CW.
Maybe. I think that's when they have their "heated discussion" with some "sexual tension" thrown in so who knows how this conversation is going to go. Looks like the convo will be interesting to say the least.
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tomsawyer
Jul 2 2012, 04:57 PM
So I wonder if the "coming clean" is EJ telling Sami that he's not a DiMera. I'm still thinking Ejami's upcoming story is them partnering up to hide that fact so he doesn't lose DE and she doesn't lose her job at CW.
Yeah, I think so too and the timing would be right for this to be when Sami learns the truth.

Either way, I like the fact that Sami has picked up on the fact that something has been bothering EJ, other than the loss of Stefano and Lexie.
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Hopeless_Dreamer
Jul 2 2012, 05:03 PM
I'm just one of those fans that like to see some growth in a character. Having Nicole regress to how she was 5-10 years ago is not something I want to see. She can still scheme and be a bad girl while pregnant without sexing it up with most disgusting male in Salem. That's where I draw the line.
Actually I think her relationship with Daniel shows more growth than a relationship with Rafe could. She's being honest with him. She's being herself and calling herself and him for that matter just like she sees it. With Rafe she'd have to pretend to be something she is not, just like Sami did. So, I do see growth there.

I just wish she wasn't pregnant because A) I personally don't dig her sleeping with one guy while pregnant by another guy B) EJ is my fav and I cannot root for Nicole while she is doing this to EJ. She sucks for that.
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SocRMum1
Jul 2 2012, 04:07 PM
elci525
Jul 2 2012, 02:08 PM
EJamandBread
Jul 2 2012, 01:55 PM
elci525
Jul 2 2012, 01:23 PM
I am a diehard Lumi fan, and unfortunately I have to admit the reunion was rushed, and not written like it had lasting ability. I won't go so far to say Lumi were an insta-couple quite in the manner of Carrie and Rafe, or Abigail and Cameron, or Madison and Brady. At least, for those who are familiar with it (and there are a few of us out there), there was a long, rich history to support their reunion (although not enough narrative rebuild-up) and I am also of the mind that they never fell out of love with each other (forced apart from without). But even with all of that being true, and even though the huge fangirl in me thinks their reunion was actually too drawn out in that it's been four years or so, the writing for them this time has been like an afterthought. We have had a few wonderful scenes that fully reminded me of why I did and do still love Lumi so much, but so much has also been lacking. They have been written tamely, and it's been a disservice to what the couple has been and still can be. And that has made me incredibly sad.

And I also have to begrudgingly admit that, despite the fact that Sami and EJ went from spewing at each other one day, and the next day sharing wine and talking about "good sex" and being sudden besties, since that happened, the hinting they have been getting, the implications without overt declarations (like was the case with Lumi - I mean, they were saying they were "back together" after one day)...it does seem like that coupling has been getting a treatment that, in terms of soap opera writing, suggests they were they "real" couple being written for [it hurt my heart to say that just now]. Lumi had it too, when they refused to acknowledge how they felt at first. And you just knew back then all that suggestion and the build-up was indicative of SOMETHING, and would very likely lead to some big realization/payoff (as Lumi had).

So I know enough to recognize that is sort of pattern when it's happening, as it's playing out now a bit wieh Ejami, and holy mother it makes me sad and nervous. I still don't like it, I still think it's wrong and inexplicable. But I knew the instant Lumi got "back together," they were never the couple the writers intended to write as getting back together, if that makes sense. So MarDAr didn't give Lumis a Lumi reunion - they gave us some nice moments. But I am no idiot; I fully knew what those moments were in service of, what storyline they were being subsumed under. Monkey's paw indeed.

And again, it makes me so incredibly sad and disappointed.
But here is the thing: I think you are sad and disappointed because there is, literally nothing else going on on the show to interest you or root for. IMO, the reason all the fan base wars have gotten so out of hand is because there are NO interesting characters besides the few we are all always shipping. Maybe if Abigail and Cameron were giving us a compelling, root-able love story, it wouldn't hurt as much that we aren't getting our favorite couple (which probably has EJ or Sami as 50 percent of that couple, am I right?).

I have a favorite couple, and I'm dying to see them, but I have also been a soap fan long enough to know that if the rest of the stories are good, I an handle not getting my favorite pairing. Days mistake is not giving us build-up and payoff with anyone and relying solely on the talents of James and Alison to make other storylines interesting even without telling actual stories.
Hmmm....I think you give me a little more credit than I deserve. ;) I am sad and disappointed b/c my favorite pairing is being treated like a b-storyline in favor of another, less-favorable one....and it's a repeat of a time that was especially painful to me as a Lumi-girl. And I am smart enough to notice pretty heavy-handed soap writing when I see it, so I do see the writing on the wall, and that makes me sad.

It's my own fault for being ever-so-slightly-overly fanatical.

And I am just THAT big of an non-Ejami person.

But you are right that there is also nothing else to fill that void for me, as there are no real stories that I find compelling or intriguing on the show, enough to compensate for any sense of loss =) I see tidbits of interesting directions, but I do want to see real stories that involve lots of different characters (not just one or two) and make me feel like there is some deep connection between the various players on the canvas. I stopped watching Days for a little while, and that is the first thing I noticed when I came back - how isolated the characters and s/lines seemed to be. We had a return to this broader-connectiveness with Lexie's memorial, but that was one day and one very unique scenario. So yes, I want to see better stories.
I just have to tell you - despite the fact we're of polar opposite sides on preferred pairings I love your insightful and often funny posts. Often times I feel like you could interchange "EJami" where you've typed "Lumi" and I would swear you are inside my head.

Hey awesome - thanks!! That is a very nice thing to say, and I am glad I could entertain ;) I am fully aware of how comedic my hyperbolic obsessions are, so I try to balance the shipping rantings with some degree of objectivity, as well as take a jab at myself so that I don't take these storylines too seriously. I don't often do a good job of that, as evidenced by my expressions of intense sadness and hurt feelings. It's not like these are real people or anything....

And I am glad there can be bridges of communion even within fan-base opposition :P It just goes to show that we love the same overall kinds of storylines, just disagree about who we want to see populate the stories. And this does go back to the point that we need less fan-base-inciting writing and more simply good, well-developed stories we'd want to invest in.

Bringing it back full circle.
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eugenie
Jul 2 2012, 04:24 PM
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Jul 1 2012, 12:52 PM
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Jul 1 2012, 12:18 PM
tomsawyer
Jul 1 2012, 10:43 AM
Awh man, I'm worried they are going to ruin Dikki. Too much movement and too many discussions about the status of their relationship. C'mon writers, AZ/SC have great chemistry and you set up their dynamic well. Please don't ruin it by having them fall for each other quickly.

Well considering Tanman already sexed up his pregnant patient on a fucking desk after maybe two conversations its a little too late to even think about slow build with these two. Anyways we already know they are going back to Dannifer so there really is no need for tptb to build these two up as something when its not going to matter in three months.
If you blinked and didn't watch Days for a week and came back, one would have wondered where the hell did Dicole come from and how could Nicole sleep with that patient molestor? It's rushed, it's gross and it's gonna be over as fast as it began. Not fast enough. Daniel's heavy panting and breathing and looking at women like he wants to do bad, bad things to them is revolting. It reminds me of those dirty, hillbilly, toothless, perverts from the movie "Deliverance" that got pleasure from making that poor guy squeel like a pig. Does everyone have that picture in their head??? Well, that's how heinous and disgusting Daniel is. I'm gonna call him "Deliverance Dan" from now on. Sicko needs a name to signify just how perverted and gross he is. I want him off the show. Nicole, Jennifer even Chloe doesn't deserve the likes of that manwhore.
Man, the Racole banners disappeared fast. Oops! Guess the Dik Ole ones will pop up any day.

Nicole sure does make people see chemistry, even if her partners (Rafe, the Perv) have none of their own. Now, just get her back with her true mate, Elvis Junior Dimera. I have hope, now that the MerDe team has been sacked.
At least one danicole banner will be up as soon as there are caps from tomorrow's awesome scenes. Nicole cuddled up against Daniel with her head on his chest was adorable.

Anyway, I like seeing characters grow as well, but becoming a weak doormat isn't growth.

eta: changed my mind
Edited by six, Jul 2 2012, 06:37 PM.
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Jul 2 2012, 12:05 PM
I like the optimistic attitude by some faithful about the new old writers.But there is no reason to believe they will be any better than MarDar and Higley.In fact,I find the rehiring of Whitesal and Tomlin a bad sign.
I TOTALLY agree with this. I think that a couple of months after the old/new writers take over the show, people are going to beg for MarDar's return. Heck, they may even beg for Dena's.
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Jul 2 2012, 04:57 PM
So I wonder if the "coming clean" is EJ telling Sami that he's not a DiMera. I'm still thinking Ejami's upcoming story is them partnering up to hide that fact so he doesn't lose DE and she doesn't lose her job at CW.
I think it might be that she wants him to come clean about whether or not he killed Stephano.
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Jul 2 2012, 06:50 PM
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Jul 2 2012, 04:57 PM
So I wonder if the "coming clean" is EJ telling Sami that he's not a DiMera. I'm still thinking Ejami's upcoming story is them partnering up to hide that fact so he doesn't lose DE and she doesn't lose her job at CW.
I think it might be that she wants him to come clean about whether or not he killed Stephano.
Frankly I wonder if this is not Stefano pulling the strings, it's not the first time he's done nasty things to his children. And he did do nasty things to EJ prethis, like the election and his marriage with Nicole. It just seems like a phoenix norm. Not that I care, but just saying. I say when the show goes down the drain can I roll over and giggle. I specially like the ideal of when a couple pairing has not worked several times over they rinse and repeat. Like Crocodile Dundee said "Shit for Brains."
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If you blinked and didn't watch Days for a week and came back, one would have wondered where the hell did Dicole come from and how could Nicole sleep with that patient molestor? It's rushed, it's gross and it's gonna be over as fast as it began. Not fast enough. Daniel's heavy panting and breathing and looking at women like he wants to do bad, bad things to them is revolting. It reminds me of those dirty, hillbilly, toothless, perverts from the movie "Deliverance" that got pleasure from making that poor guy squeel like a pig. Does everyone have that picture in their head??? Well, that's how heinous and disgusting Daniel is. I'm gonna call him "Deliverance Dan" from now on. Sicko needs a name to signify just how perverted and gross he is. I want him off the show. Nicole, Jennifer even Chloe doesn't deserve the likes of that manwhore.
Man, the Racole banners disappeared fast. Oops! Guess the Dik Ole ones will pop up any day.

Nicole sure does make people see chemistry, even if her partners (Rafe, the Perv) have none of their own. Now, just get her back with her true mate, Elvis Junior Dimera. I have hope, now that the MerDe team has been sacked.
At least one danicole banner will be up as soon as there are caps from tomorrow's awesome scenes. Nicole cuddled up against Daniel with her head on his chest was adorable.

Anyway, I like seeing characters grow as well, but becoming a weak doormat isn't growth.

eta: changed my mind
The bolded is exactly my reason for hating Ej/Beast as a pairing. ;)

I would hardly call Nicole a weak doormat. Ej has actually been shown to love her this time around. I don't want her to take him back right now, but I'd be okay with her taking him back eventually. It sure beats her instantly hooking up with a guy she's maybe had three conversations with and who's abandoned every woman patient he's ever claimed to love.
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Oh. My. God! HD, your banner! Ash here did it? It's just great. For a lot of reasons, it's great. The pig nose, the color, the slam at the stupid 50 shades of shit, locker room Lolita, and more subtle stuff that just made my week.

Oh, edited to add, yeah, Lolita was a teenager, so no comparison to pigslug Sami. Maybe the girl in the porn is more like her; I don't know.
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Oh. My. God! HD, your banner! Ash here did it? It's just great. For a lot of reasons, it's great. The pig nose, the color, the slam at the stupid 50 shades of shit, locker room Lolita, and more subtle stuff that just made my week.

Oh, edited to add, yeah, Lolita was a teenager, so no comparison to pigslug Sami. Maybe the girl in the porn is more like her; I don't know.
Haha thanks :laugh: glad it made your day. The wonderfully talented Ash made it. :)
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

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Man, the Racole banners disappeared fast. Oops! Guess the Dik Ole ones will pop up any day.

Nicole sure does make people see chemistry, even if her partners (Rafe, the Perv) have none of their own. Now, just get her back with her true mate, Elvis Junior Dimera. I have hope, now that the MerDe team has been sacked.
At least one danicole banner will be up as soon as there are caps from tomorrow's awesome scenes. Nicole cuddled up against Daniel with her head on his chest was adorable.

Anyway, I like seeing characters grow as well, but becoming a weak doormat isn't growth.

eta: changed my mind
The bolded is exactly my reason for hating Ej/Beast as a pairing. ;)

I would hardly call Nicole a weak doormat. Ej has actually been shown to love her this time around. I don't want her to take him back right now, but I'd be okay with her taking him back eventually. It sure beats her instantly hooking up with a guy she's maybe had three conversations with and who's abandoned every woman patient he's ever claimed to love.
If Nicole is not weak, she is certially not strong now. I really do not hope for an Ejole fix, it just seems that Nicole never learned from Sami keepin the truth from Ej, she needs to just be honest. I don't know what she wants to be with, seems like Daniel is the only thing on her mind now. :shame:
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