Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]



Hello, soap fans -- and welcome to Daytime Royalty!

For those unfamiliar, we are an uncensored community for fans and lovers of the daytime genre. We have a no-holds-barred atmosphere in regards to the shows, writers, actors etc. but we do not allow member suffering succotash in any form.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.

Join our community!

If you're already a member, please log in to your account to access all of our features.

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,723 Views)
lazydazes
Member Avatar


Quote:
 
I think the show has failed greatly by making most of their main characters beneath the Dimeras some way. Sorry doesn't work. I have no interest in seeing the Dimeras own Salem. Especially when the two other families of power are ignored.

This show will continue to suck as long as the writers deem it necessary to flood our screen with James Scott and to try and have him carry the show. He is by far the worse lead I have ever seen. But what do you expect from a man with no successful storyline even though he gets triple the sl as everyone else.

It's not just the writing.


Agreed.
What about the Kiriakis brood? The show has continuously crapped on them for years now. And they're practically as nonexistent as ever. Victor's just a whipped boy with no balls. I mean, seriously, this is the same badass that put Shane/Kim through hell during the 80's. And his oneliners were priceless. Unsurprisingly this once great villain has been destroyed.
Phillip's no longer in the coop, and they just let Brady booze it up. Rather than just focus on the Dimeras, the Kiriakis clan needs to rise to power.
John Aniston is (was) a master at villianry until they pocketed Victor's balls in Maggie's apron. Jay Kenneth Johnson became fed up with playing storylines with teeny boppers, basically deciding to blow the joint. Don't blame him either. While I love drooling over Eric Martsolf's hot bod :wub: the show never has given him material meaty enough to be a badass Kiriakis. And then, you have Judi Evans/Wally Kurth, both fantastic actors languishing on the backburner while they pump up Victor's stepson, DanMan.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
elci525
Member Avatar


LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 08:19 AM
elci525
Jul 5 2012, 07:59 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 07:43 AM
bomber
Jul 5 2012, 12:02 AM
I think one of the problems is that because there is so much bed hopping that the show is pitting fans against each other. You have Ejole, Ejami,Lumi,Safe,Rafe,Dicole etc and you cant please them all. In the old days they stayed more monogamous (not totally but more than now). If today's formula was applied then Hope would have been with Jack, Steve, Frankie, marcus and probably even Eugene! And Bo would have had an affair with Melissa, Adrienne, Jennifer and Isabella. And because changing partners takes all attention, there's no time for other storylines. it also means the dialogues all sound the same.


And the bed hopping can be understood, it's a different generation. But in one eppy, Carrie can cry with Austin that she will make it up to him, then turn around and go all "Gone With the Wind" with Rafe. E.J. "bonds" with Nicole over their child, after he was looking at a pic of Sami and his kids. Sami and Nicole have so may options for pairings and Eric isn't even here yet.

I just think the writers are not ready to make a final decision as to who Sami or Nicole will be with. I feel like they have with Nicole, by bringing Eric back. They could easily have let her bounce back and forth between E.J. and Brady or have her be with one of them. So obviously, they must be ready to move on from EJole.

Now it looks to me as if SAFE is dead. Rafe can't stand her, he is all about Carrie. And Sami has finally realized what a condescending creep she was with, who blamed her for the end of their marriage, when he too had fallen for Carrie. I see no future for SAFE :cheer: ...thank gawd.

Now I just need theme to move away from LUMI and focus on EJami and I will be happy happy.
They definitely need to have more males 30-something on the canvas, b/c having all these options and all the s/lines being about Nicole and Sami is ridiculous (esp. Sami, if you ask me).

I think bringing Eric back is not indicative of any definitive choice TPTB have made. It is an interesting development, and I am sure Nicole and Eric will be involved some way, but I have no assurances that EJ won't also be involved somehow. I do think Eric coming back, plus the fact that Madi is out - well, that doesn't protend too well for Brady.

I don't think Safe is dead at all, esp. with GT being back. I have no idea who is controlling what, who has say over whom, who is really running the show, etc. But I wouldn't rule Safe out as returning.

Ejami - well clearly we are headed there, and although it unnerves me in every way and makes me oh-so sad, I would rather it happen so that it just happens already, and I can stop hearing that they never got a really chance at romance, EJ is this big unanswered question for Sami, she has unresolved feelings, he has unresolved feelings, they can't stop thinking of what could have been, :blah: :blah: :blah: Let them resolve these feelings, put this "sexy" unknowness to rest, and then let's see what happens.

I fear for my Lumi, honestly, and that crushes me a bit. But given comments I have read from GG and BD, I dunno - I am not ready to say anything is a done deal just yet. But I am being very overly optimistic, admittedly.

But I definitely agree TPTB have a very hard time just picking a coupling, esp. for Sami. Sami suddenly became this irresistible thing, and somehow fanbases latched on to her couplings pretty ferociously. Funny how that happened.
I think you mean more females right? Lol.....

I sort of fear for Lumi too, not that I think they are done for good, I know that in a soap only when that last show airs is when you can be sure of that but I am not liking how they are writing them now, they seem to be intentional downplaying them. I even have issues with how they are writing Lucas. He's waaaaaay to mellowed out. I know that characters grow, mature and I can't always expect the same thing, but what I love about Lucas is that he's always been a straight shooter but he's also been sarcastic, funny and I am not getting any of that anymore. Not that I expect anything from TomSell, it's sort of a bummer all around. It's kind of sad that the only thing I have to look forward to is that he hasn't been fired.
haha yes - sorry, too early in the morning. more females - other than Sami and Nicole. Let me correct.

And I agree with everything in your post, unsurprisingly! If this is how they are going to write Lumi, well then, no thanks. And Lucas too - the brass, the sarcasm, the boppity-bop-bop back and forth with Sami has just been bloodletted, We got like a very weak version of the boppity-bop-bop the night of Stefano's murder, with Lucas's "It's in a safe....it's a safe so it's safe....what is safer than a safe....??" line...and then Sami reminds him "remember...it is in a safe, what's safer than a safe". And that was pretty much it - not too much to hang my adoration on. Plus I didn't love all those "safe" mentions. ;) But yeah, whoopdeedoo.

And I am clinging onto the same thing you are clinging onto, looking forward just to that, and that ain't saying much. Grrr
Edited by elci525, Jul 5 2012, 08:29 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LuvingLumi
Member Avatar
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

lazydazes
Jul 5 2012, 08:21 AM
Quote:
 
I think the show has failed greatly by making most of their main characters beneath the Dimeras some way. Sorry doesn't work. I have no interest in seeing the Dimeras own Salem. Especially when the two other families of power are ignored.

This show will continue to suck as long as the writers deem it necessary to flood our screen with James Scott and to try and have him carry the show. He is by far the worse lead I have ever seen. But what do you expect from a man with no successful storyline even though he gets triple the sl as everyone else.

It's not just the writing.


Agreed.
What about the Kiriakis brood? The show has continuously crapped on them for years now. And they're practically as nonexistent as ever. Victor's just a whipped boy with no balls. I mean, seriously, this is the same badass that put Shane/Kim through hell during the 80's. And his oneliners were priceless. Unsurprisingly this once great villain has been destroyed.
Phillip's no longer in the coop, and they just let Brady booze it up. Rather than just focus on the Dimeras, the Kiriakis clan needs to rise to power.
John Aniston is (was) a master at villianry until they pocketed Victor's balls in Maggie's apron. Jay Kenneth Johnson became fed up with playing storylines with teeny boppers, basically deciding to blow the joint. Don't blame him either. While I love drooling over Eric Martsolf's hot bod :wub: the show never has given him material meaty enough to be a badass Kiriakis. And then, you have Judi Evans/Wally Kurth, both fantastic actors languishing on the backburner while they pump up Victor's stepson, DanMan.
The Kiriakis should be the more prominent bad family now that the show has focused on the Dimeras for YEARS now. The problem is that Philip left and Brady is really not the type of character that can run with the Kiriakis family empire having such close ties to John and his Dimeraness, lol. Either they bring Philip back, OR they focus on bringing in a new villaneous family. They should have really thought about leaving Ian a bit more, establish him somewhat, bring a daughter or son or both along for him to mix it up with, establish them and then write out Ian and keep the other two so they can cause issues in Salem. I also think they should focus on the Hortons more as the 'good family'.....the Hortons have been decimated and if I remember correctly the show said around the reset that they would focus more on them...I would never imagine that they'd open up a Horton Town Square without bringing in Bill, Lucas or any other HOrton to actually be part of the festivities, or that they would actually make Daniel and Mel honorary Hortons, really sucks.
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
brazen
Member Avatar


Bringing back Eric is a good step, they could be wanting to bring back Phillip also or Shawn D (Jason Cook is free). If Bo leaves by "fake death" it would be a good excuse to have them all return at the same time. His son, his brother, his nephew.

I would think Lucas would just be out the door if that's the case. He already is at the bottom of the totem pole as is. Bryan and Lisa Rinna are thrown in like extras.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
six
Member Avatar


LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 07:46 AM
six
Jul 5 2012, 07:28 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 07:20 AM
brazen
Jul 4 2012, 04:22 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
If you go by what Sami said....Lucas works for HER, not for the Dimeras....she's the one that works for them....

The only way that would work is if Lucas was her gardener or something. If he works for her on CW stuff and she works for them, then they both work for them.
I'm just stating what Sami said.....that's all.....
I know. I'm just saying that makes no sense. Lumi would have to be dumb or deluding themselves to claim he wasn't a Dimera employee.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LuvingLumi
Member Avatar
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

six
Jul 5 2012, 08:38 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 07:46 AM
six
Jul 5 2012, 07:28 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 07:20 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
The only way that would work is if Lucas was her gardener or something. If he works for her on CW stuff and she works for them, then they both work for them.
I'm just stating what Sami said.....that's all.....
I know. I'm just saying that makes no sense. Lumi would have to be dumb or deluding themselves to claim he wasn't a Dimera employee.
Since when does this show make sense? The dialogue struck me as hilarious that is why I remember it.
Edited by LuvingLumi, Jul 5 2012, 08:44 AM.
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

elci525
Jul 5 2012, 07:59 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 07:43 AM
bomber
Jul 5 2012, 12:02 AM
I think one of the problems is that because there is so much bed hopping that the show is pitting fans against each other. You have Ejole, Ejami,Lumi,Safe,Rafe,Dicole etc and you cant please them all. In the old days they stayed more monogamous (not totally but more than now). If today's formula was applied then Hope would have been with Jack, Steve, Frankie, marcus and probably even Eugene! And Bo would have had an affair with Melissa, Adrienne, Jennifer and Isabella. And because changing partners takes all attention, there's no time for other storylines. it also means the dialogues all sound the same.


And the bed hopping can be understood, it's a different generation. But in one eppy, Carrie can cry with Austin that she will make it up to him, then turn around and go all "Gone With the Wind" with Rafe. E.J. "bonds" with Nicole over their child, after he was looking at a pic of Sami and his kids. Sami and Nicole have so may options for pairings and Eric isn't even here yet.

I just think the writers are not ready to make a final decision as to who Sami or Nicole will be with. I feel like they have with Nicole, by bringing Eric back. They could easily have let her bounce back and forth between E.J. and Brady or have her be with one of them. So obviously, they must be ready to move on from EJole.

Now it looks to me as if SAFE is dead. Rafe can't stand her, he is all about Carrie. And Sami has finally realized what a condescending creep she was with, who blamed her for the end of their marriage, when he too had fallen for Carrie. I see no future for SAFE :cheer: ...thank gawd.

Now I just need theme to move away from LUMI and focus on EJami and I will be happy happy.
They definitely need to have more female 30-somethings on the canvas, b/c having all these options and all the s/lines being about Nicole and Sami is ridiculous (esp. Sami, if you ask me).

I think bringing Eric back is not indicative of any definitive choice TPTB have made. It is an interesting development, and I am sure Nicole and Eric will be involved some way, but I have no assurances that EJ won't also be involved somehow. I do think Eric coming back, plus the fact that Madi is out - well, that doesn't protend too well for Brady.

I don't think Safe is dead at all, esp. with GT being back. I have no idea who is controlling what, who has say over whom, who is really running the show, etc. But I wouldn't rule Safe out as returning.

Ejami - well clearly we are headed there, and although it unnerves me in every way and makes me oh-so sad, I would rather it happen so that it just happens already, and I can stop hearing that they never got a really chance at romance, EJ is this big unanswered question for Sami, she has unresolved feelings, he has unresolved feelings, they can't stop thinking of what could have been, :blah: :blah: :blah: Let them resolve these feelings, put this "sexy" unknowness to rest, and then let's see what happens.

I fear for my Lumi, honestly, and that crushes me a bit. But given comments I have read from GG and BD, I dunno - I am not ready to say anything is a done deal just yet. But I am being very overly optimistic, admittedly.

But I definitely agree TPTB have a very hard time just picking a coupling, esp. for Sami. Sami suddenly became this irresistible thing, and somehow fanbases latched on to her couplings pretty ferociously. Funny how that happened.


I believe that SAFE is indeed dead. The whole point of that relationship, was Sami putting Rafe on a pedestal and pretend he was a God. That all feel apart when she slept with E.J. He fell for Carrie and blamed Sami for the end of their marriage. Sami and Rafe worked, because they made her totally dependent on him. With the old Sami coming back, SAFE can't exist. Of course GT might feel differently, we can only wait and see. NBC seems to be in charge, not him. So he will write what they want him to. But with Bo leaving, I can totally see them pair poor Hope with him. Hence the reason Carrie isn't coming back.

As for a triangle with E.J./Nicole/Eric. E.J. will not win that one. And I don't think a possible triangle will involve him. Does he even know, care about Daniel? He is too busy hanging out with Will. So far he's done nothing to prove to Nicole that she is the one. And Chloe isn't coming back, what will they do with Brady?

And with Nicole, having a child with E.J., while kissing and dreaming of Rafe. Now sleeping with Daniel, when Eric is coming back. Pick a couple please and I think thay have: Ericole.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
brazen
Member Avatar


Unless Sami's paying him from her own pocket, working for her still means working for the company and in the end working for EJ.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Helpless Romantic


Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 08:48 AM
elci525
Jul 5 2012, 07:59 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 07:43 AM
bomber
Jul 5 2012, 12:02 AM
I think one of the problems is that because there is so much bed hopping that the show is pitting fans against each other. You have Ejole, Ejami,Lumi,Safe,Rafe,Dicole etc and you cant please them all. In the old days they stayed more monogamous (not totally but more than now). If today's formula was applied then Hope would have been with Jack, Steve, Frankie, marcus and probably even Eugene! And Bo would have had an affair with Melissa, Adrienne, Jennifer and Isabella. And because changing partners takes all attention, there's no time for other storylines. it also means the dialogues all sound the same.


And the bed hopping can be understood, it's a different generation. But in one eppy, Carrie can cry with Austin that she will make it up to him, then turn around and go all "Gone With the Wind" with Rafe. E.J. "bonds" with Nicole over their child, after he was looking at a pic of Sami and his kids. Sami and Nicole have so may options for pairings and Eric isn't even here yet.

I just think the writers are not ready to make a final decision as to who Sami or Nicole will be with. I feel like they have with Nicole, by bringing Eric back. They could easily have let her bounce back and forth between E.J. and Brady or have her be with one of them. So obviously, they must be ready to move on from EJole.

Now it looks to me as if SAFE is dead. Rafe can't stand her, he is all about Carrie. And Sami has finally realized what a condescending creep she was with, who blamed her for the end of their marriage, when he too had fallen for Carrie. I see no future for SAFE :cheer: ...thank gawd.

Now I just need theme to move away from LUMI and focus on EJami and I will be happy happy.
They definitely need to have more female 30-somethings on the canvas, b/c having all these options and all the s/lines being about Nicole and Sami is ridiculous (esp. Sami, if you ask me).

I think bringing Eric back is not indicative of any definitive choice TPTB have made. It is an interesting development, and I am sure Nicole and Eric will be involved some way, but I have no assurances that EJ won't also be involved somehow. I do think Eric coming back, plus the fact that Madi is out - well, that doesn't protend too well for Brady.

I don't think Safe is dead at all, esp. with GT being back. I have no idea who is controlling what, who has say over whom, who is really running the show, etc. But I wouldn't rule Safe out as returning.

Ejami - well clearly we are headed there, and although it unnerves me in every way and makes me oh-so sad, I would rather it happen so that it just happens already, and I can stop hearing that they never got a really chance at romance, EJ is this big unanswered question for Sami, she has unresolved feelings, he has unresolved feelings, they can't stop thinking of what could have been, :blah: :blah: :blah: Let them resolve these feelings, put this "sexy" unknowness to rest, and then let's see what happens.

I fear for my Lumi, honestly, and that crushes me a bit. But given comments I have read from GG and BD, I dunno - I am not ready to say anything is a done deal just yet. But I am being very overly optimistic, admittedly.

But I definitely agree TPTB have a very hard time just picking a coupling, esp. for Sami. Sami suddenly became this irresistible thing, and somehow fanbases latched on to her couplings pretty ferociously. Funny how that happened.


I believe that SAFE is indeed dead. The whole point of that relationship, was Sami putting Rafe on a pedestal and pretend he was a God. That all feel apart when she slept with E.J. He fell for Carrie and blamed Sami for the end of their marriage. Sami and Rafe worked, because they made her totally dependent on him. With the old Sami coming back, SAFE can't exist. Of course GT might feel differently, we can only wait and see. NBC seems to be in charge, not him. So he will write what they want him to. But with Bo leaving, I can totally see them pair poor Hope with him. Hence the reason Carrie isn't coming back.

As for a triangle with E.J./Nicole/Eric. E.J. will not win that one. And I don't think a possible triangle will involve him. Does he even know, care about Daniel? He is too busy hanging out with Will. So far he's done nothing to prove to Nicole that she is the one. And Chloe isn't coming back, what will they do with Brady?

And with Nicole, having a child with E.J., while kissing and dreaming of Rafe. Now sleeping with Daniel, when Eric is coming back. Pick a couple please and I think thay have: Ericole.
I am no EJAMI fan but I never thought they were dead same with SAFE not being dead. LUMI seemed like they were "dead" too but they were resurrected. Point is none of Sami's relationships are ever truely dead, unless like in BD and Matt Cedenos( Brandon's) case where they left but BD was brought back again and as far as we know Galen Gering is not going anywhere. As much as I would like to say they will definitively pick my couple, I know better. They are likely to tease all these relationships until they do pick someone and that likely wont be until the end of the show. So when the final curtain closes I believe is when they will pick someone for her but as of now SAFE LUMI EJAMI EJOLE etc etc arent "dead" nothing ever is on a SOAP until its cancelled. I never viewed Rafe as this perfect guy and I think this latest SL shows that Sami and Rafe are both flawed something that was alluded to about him being a trouble maker as a kid when he first came on and said the nuns straightened him out. Did she put him ona pedestal, maybe sometimes but only because she loved him but he ALWAYS told her he was not perfect and that she did deserved his love.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 5 2012, 09:07 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Geovanne


Ali_James
Jul 4 2012, 04:05 PM
What I don't like is Lucas focusing all his energy badmouthing E.J., when Will is just as bad. He didn't have to go with E.J. when he bailed him out, he chose to.

Lucas has always know, at least since 07, that Will was troubled. He did nothing. Now E.J. is the bad guy? He needs to focus on his son, see Will for who he is and stop obsessing over Elvis.

And also stop excluding Sami, she is Will's mother.
It is my hope that this Lucas, Will, and Ej stuff is a way to involve John and Marlena and I like it. This actually makes sense and I for one am so happy to see them involved. EJ Wells and Will Horton almost seem like the same person to me at this point, they are both acting stupid in my opinion. I have watched way to many of their scenes. I started out watching this EJ and Will story because of Will and his scenes with Marlena. I just followed the story with Will but now that he is out and is a "di Mera in training", I was losing interest until I read the spoiler with John. Now I am interested again in fact, I am looking forward to watching this play out.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LuvingLumi
Member Avatar
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Helpless Romantic
Jul 5 2012, 08:54 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 08:48 AM
elci525
Jul 5 2012, 07:59 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 07:43 AM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
They definitely need to have more female 30-somethings on the canvas, b/c having all these options and all the s/lines being about Nicole and Sami is ridiculous (esp. Sami, if you ask me).

I think bringing Eric back is not indicative of any definitive choice TPTB have made. It is an interesting development, and I am sure Nicole and Eric will be involved some way, but I have no assurances that EJ won't also be involved somehow. I do think Eric coming back, plus the fact that Madi is out - well, that doesn't protend too well for Brady.

I don't think Safe is dead at all, esp. with GT being back. I have no idea who is controlling what, who has say over whom, who is really running the show, etc. But I wouldn't rule Safe out as returning.

Ejami - well clearly we are headed there, and although it unnerves me in every way and makes me oh-so sad, I would rather it happen so that it just happens already, and I can stop hearing that they never got a really chance at romance, EJ is this big unanswered question for Sami, she has unresolved feelings, he has unresolved feelings, they can't stop thinking of what could have been, :blah: :blah: :blah: Let them resolve these feelings, put this "sexy" unknowness to rest, and then let's see what happens.

I fear for my Lumi, honestly, and that crushes me a bit. But given comments I have read from GG and BD, I dunno - I am not ready to say anything is a done deal just yet. But I am being very overly optimistic, admittedly.

But I definitely agree TPTB have a very hard time just picking a coupling, esp. for Sami. Sami suddenly became this irresistible thing, and somehow fanbases latched on to her couplings pretty ferociously. Funny how that happened.


I believe that SAFE is indeed dead. The whole point of that relationship, was Sami putting Rafe on a pedestal and pretend he was a God. That all feel apart when she slept with E.J. He fell for Carrie and blamed Sami for the end of their marriage. Sami and Rafe worked, because they made her totally dependent on him. With the old Sami coming back, SAFE can't exist. Of course GT might feel differently, we can only wait and see. NBC seems to be in charge, not him. So he will write what they want him to. But with Bo leaving, I can totally see them pair poor Hope with him. Hence the reason Carrie isn't coming back.

As for a triangle with E.J./Nicole/Eric. E.J. will not win that one. And I don't think a possible triangle will involve him. Does he even know, care about Daniel? He is too busy hanging out with Will. So far he's done nothing to prove to Nicole that she is the one. And Chloe isn't coming back, what will they do with Brady?

And with Nicole, having a child with E.J., while kissing and dreaming of Rafe. Now sleeping with Daniel, when Eric is coming back. Pick a couple please and I think thay have: Ericole.
I am no EJAMI fan but I never thought they were dead same with SAFE not being dead. LUMI seemed like they were "dead" too but they were resurrected. Point is none of Sami's relationships are ever truely dead, unless like in BD and Matt Cedenos( Brandon's) case where they left but BD was brought back again and as far as we know Galen Gering is not going anywhere. As much as I would like to say they will definitively pick my couple, I know better. They are likely to tease all these relationships until they do pick someone and that likely wont be until the end of the show. So when the final curtain closes I believe is when they will pick someone for her but as of now SAFE LUMI EJAMI EJOLE etc etc arent "dead" nothing ever is on a SOAP until its cancelled. I never viewed Rafe as this perfect guy and I think this latest SL shows that Sami and Rafe are both flawed something that was alluded to about him being a trouble maker as a kid when he first came on and said the nuns straightened him out. Did she put him ona pedestal maybe sometimes but only because she loved him but he ALWAYS told her he was not perfect and that she did de4serve his love.
ITA....history proves that no couple is dead....Safe isn't dead, or why would Sami even bother to care if he got Carrie pregnant or not? Ejami was thought dead after the shooting and doppelganger and look what is happening. Lumi won't be dead either.....no couple on a soap is dead especially when they continue to focus on Sami's man issues.
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
lazydazes
Member Avatar


DAYS is a huge chessboard.
And for some crazy reason, Sami/EJ have been placed as the most coveted pieces.
Lucas, Rafe, and Nicole are merely the pieces that the writers carefully arrange and move around the board while they decide what play to make next. It's not about these three, it has never been, nor will it be. All the strategic moves have failed colossally as they struggle to make the Ejami story viable/sellable. Some have bought it, others haven't. And this is the epic struggle that's plagued the show for the past six years.
Lumi was basically trashed when EJ came on. And that's when the writers' love affair began with Ejami. To make a looooooong story short (yes, it's long since Sami waffled between them for eons), the writers chunked pawn A which is Lucas and gave him his walking papers. The writers looked at their chessboard again, and thought, 'we gotta mix it up'.
Enter pawn B, Nicole Walker, inteloper deluxette delight, and pawn C, laidback agent Rafe Hernandez. By this time, Sami was hiding her pregnancy, mixing it up with Hernandez, and EJ was doing Nicole in the elevator. Still, the writers ensured that Ejami had time for their 'big moment'. Of course, the babyswitch ensued, and Ari acted the hell out of it. And it was the only real highlight for me. So, the writers are forced to extract Pawn B because of her real life pregnancy, and Nicole is carted off to jail. That leaves Pawn C, Rafe, being strategically moved as they decide what to do next. So, Sami plays house with EJ while they ship Rafe off to prison with an incarcerated Shane, oh, and Pawn C mixed it up with Carly briefly. Ratings suck, then we have reboot 959. Pawn C is sprung from jail, and suddenly Sami decides that Rafey is the one. Still, though, the writers don't abandon the 'big moments' for their most coveted pieces. Pawn B, Nicole, is sprung from the slammer, but had a little sideshow as Brady/Arianna's inteloper, but then is strategically placed into their story again, returning as EJ's wife while he sexes it up with her sister. Of course, again, summer arrives, and DAYS reboots again. All the players are in play again, EJ/Nicole reunite, Rafe/Sami are together. Then, bam, here comes the griefsex, and the players are moved around the chessboard. Again......

So, when I read the spoilers, it's just the same game the writers have been playing for years. Pawn A (Lucas) returns, Pawns B&C are tossed aside in a new game with Carrie/Daniel with no serious intentions involved. And once again, the writer's most coveted pieces are the ones that the show is really concerned about. Now, we're faced with the same story that started six, long years ago. End it and put them together.

And that's what makes the Daniel/Nicole spoilers so sickening and aggravating. They have no meaning or no merit. It's the same game that they've been playing to just get Nicole out of the picture. So, TPTB are not the least bit serious about Nicole/Daniel. If anything fans would undoubtedly embrace a Bricole reunion more eagerly than Dicole. Yet, they turn aside from that, and force Dicole upon us. And that's evident proof that they're not serious about Nicole's part in the game.
Someone needs their ass kicked for letting these crazy stories play out on camera.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LuvingLumi
Member Avatar
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

brazen
Jul 5 2012, 08:48 AM
Unless Sami's paying him from her own pocket, working for her still means working for the company and in the end working for EJ.
When you think about it...Ej isn't even a Dimera.....who does she REALLY work for now? Chad?
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

Geovanne
Jul 5 2012, 08:55 AM
Ali_James
Jul 4 2012, 04:05 PM
What I don't like is Lucas focusing all his energy badmouthing E.J., when Will is just as bad. He didn't have to go with E.J. when he bailed him out, he chose to.

Lucas has always know, at least since 07, that Will was troubled. He did nothing. Now E.J. is the bad guy? He needs to focus on his son, see Will for who he is and stop obsessing over Elvis.

And also stop excluding Sami, she is Will's mother.
It is my hope that this Lucas, Will, and Ej stuff is a way to involve John and Marlena and I like it. This actually makes sense and I for one am so happy to see them involved. EJ Wells and Will Horton almost seem like the same person to me at this point, they are both acting stupid in my opinion. I have watched way to many of their scenes. I started out watching this EJ and Will story because of Will and his scenes with Marlena. I just followed the story with Will but now that he is out and is a "di Mera in training", I was losing interest until I read the spoiler with John. Now I am interested again in fact, I am looking forward to watching this play out.


I think Sami will team up with E.J. and Will to keep DiMera Enterprises in E.J.'s hands. Will is going to have to choose sides. E.J./Sami or Marlena/John. And at first, he will be "against" Jarlena, struggling with it. but ultimately, he will end up turning on E.J. and Sami. Sami will not take it well and she will be at odds with her mother and John again, because Will chose them over her. And Will will cause problems for himself and E.J.

Involving John and Marlena in this SL is a way to continue with the whole Sami vs Will. Sami vs Marlena, John and Jarlena. E.J. vs John, E.J. vs Will.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Ali_James
EJ to Sami: What? That we have this connection together, Samantha? Body and soul. It's forever. That's the truth of the matter.

E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
lysie


I think John and Marlena's involvement is going to be pretty limited.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LuvingLumi
Member Avatar
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I got a feeling Sami will be working for John soon...she'll be against it obviously, Lucas would have been fired or quit by then...Sami will side with Ej against John and sooner or later something will happen to screw that up too....and she'll be siding with John. It's so damn predictable it's just stupid.
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
JamesScott_19
Member Avatar
Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Aliaron
Jul 5 2012, 07:48 AM
I think the show has failed greatly by making most of their main characters beneath the Dimeras some way. Sorry doesn't work. I have no interest in seeing the Dimeras own Salem. Especially when the two other families of power are ignored.

This show will continue to suck as long as the writers deem it necessary to flood our screen with James Scott and to try and have him carry the show. He is by far the worse lead I have ever seen. But what do you expect from a man with no successful storyline even though he gets triple the sl as everyone else.

It's not just the writing.
I highly doubt the show will improve if James was'nt on that much. It does not matter who is leading the show if the writing is atrocious.

Yes actors are apart of the writing but to say the show will improve if one was featured on more, is highly unlikely.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LuvingLumi
Member Avatar
Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

lysie
Jul 5 2012, 09:14 AM
I think John and Marlena's involvement is going to be pretty limited.
I think you are right...if we get 3 scenes out of it, I'd be SHOCKED....
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Lil
Member Avatar


lysie
Jul 5 2012, 09:14 AM
I think John and Marlena's involvement is going to be pretty limited.
While you're probably right, I hope not.

Personally, I wish the "cliffhanger" explosion or whatever it's going to be would blast Samanhands and her harem to kingdom come. Bring in some older characters we haven't seen in a while to mourn them and then get working on some fresh stories. But that is a pipe dream lol
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Fully Featured & Customizable Free Forums
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · DAYS: News, Spoilers & Discussion · Next Topic »
Add Reply