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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,722 Views)
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I would hope that Johns interest in DE would be a decent story but I can't get over the fact that outside of his first statement to Stefano in the HTS he hasn't mentioned the relationship once. Now he wants the company? Okay whatevs.
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Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I think the EJ is not a Dimera nonsense will be scrapped when the new regime stuff kicks in and I could see your scenario of her siding with EJ against John only temporarily I remember a JS interview where he boasted about some great scenes with AS And just speculating but I think they will be confrontational ones where she learns that EJ really set up John while she plays dummy the next few weeks leading into the cliffhanger and then has that bombshell revealed that EJ was behind framing John and the reason they thought Johnny was "dead". But we shall see just a thought but it goes with their history whenever they have her be friendlier to him it only lasts until she finds out what he did this time. Then turning her back and siding against him where the same cycle repeats itself again and again and again... how the PTB don't ever get tierd of the same old shit I will never understand.
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 5 2012, 09:25 AM.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

mer4santo
Jul 5 2012, 09:20 AM
I would hope that Johns interest in DE would be a decent story but I can't get over the fact that outside of his first statement to Stefano in the HTS he hasn't mentioned the relationship once. Now he wants the company? Okay whatevs.
Leads me to believe that maybe this is a TomSell tweak? Who knows.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

brazen
Jul 5 2012, 08:48 AM
Unless Sami's paying him from her own pocket, working for her still means working for the company and in the end working for EJ.
I thought it was no question that she was working for him. :shrug:
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LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 09:16 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I got a feeling Sami will be working for John soon...she'll be against it obviously, Lucas would have been fired or quit by then...Sami will side with Ej against John and sooner or later something will happen to screw that up too....and she'll be siding with John. It's so damn predictable it's just stupid.
ICAM! Its rinse repeat and repeat again!
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Helpless Romantic
Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I think the EJ is not a Dimera nonsense will be scrapped when the new regime stuff kicks in and I could see your scenario of her siding with EJ against John only temporarily I remember a JS interview where he boasted about some great scenes with AS And just speculating but I think they will be confrontational ones where she learns that EJ really set up John while she plays dummy the next few weeks leading into the cliffhanger and then has that bombshell revealed that EJ was behind framing John and the reason they thought Johnny was "dead". But we shall see just a thought but it goes with their history whenever they have her be friendlier to him it only lasts until she finds out what he did this time. THem turning her back and siding against him where the same cycle repeats itself again and again and again... how the PTB don't ever get tierd of the same old shit I will never understand.
I think that the reveal that Sami finds out what Ej did to John won't come around the Olympic cliffhanger....I think that throughout the summer they will continue to play up Ejami, maybe whatever happens around the Olympic cliffhanger will actually bring them closer, especially if either Ej or Sami are hurt somehow.....then the rest of August and September will focus on how they 'feel' about one another and then look for it to change sometime in October and then the reveal will happen toward the end of that month into November sweeps.
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LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM
mer4santo
Jul 5 2012, 09:20 AM
I would hope that Johns interest in DE would be a decent story but I can't get over the fact that outside of his first statement to Stefano in the HTS he hasn't mentioned the relationship once. Now he wants the company? Okay whatevs.
Leads me to believe that maybe this is a TomSell tweak? Who knows.
If it integrates the characters and their stories I'll turn a blind eye to the recent history; if not, ugh.
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Don't get up. So how are you? What happened, eh? Let me guess, Stefano told you that you could fly,and you jumped off a building. HeHe It's funny right, no I'm sorry Bad EJ, I should'nt be that cruel!

Cupcake06
Jul 3 2012, 03:46 PM
Yesssss Daniel and Nicole play basketball :wub:
For some reason I have the image of Nicole making slam dunks with her pregnant stomach :shame:
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lazydazes
Jul 5 2012, 09:09 AM
DAYS is a huge chessboard.
And for some crazy reason, Sami/EJ have been placed as the most coveted pieces.
Lucas, Rafe, and Nicole are merely the pieces that the writers carefully arrange and move around the board while they decide what play to make next. It's not about these three, it has never been, nor will it be. All the strategic moves have failed colossally as they struggle to make the Ejami story viable/sellable. Some have bought it, others haven't. And this is the epic struggle that's plagued the show for the past six years.
Lumi was basically trashed when EJ came on. And that's when the writers' love affair began with Ejami. To make a looooooong story short (yes, it's long since Sami waffled between them for eons), the writers chunked pawn A which is Lucas and gave him his walking papers. The writers looked at their chessboard again, and thought, 'we gotta mix it up'.
Enter pawn B, Nicole Walker, inteloper deluxette delight, and pawn C, laidback agent Rafe Hernandez. By this time, Sami was hiding her pregnancy, mixing it up with Hernandez, and EJ was doing Nicole in the elevator. Still, the writers ensured that Ejami had time for their 'big moment'. Of course, the babyswitch ensued, and Ari acted the hell out of it. And it was the only real highlight for me. So, the writers are forced to extract Pawn B because of her real life pregnancy, and Nicole is carted off to jail. That leaves Pawn C, Rafe, being strategically moved as they decide what to do next. So, Sami plays house with EJ while they ship Rafe off to prison with an incarcerated Shane, oh, and Pawn C mixed it up with Carly briefly. Ratings suck, then we have reboot 959. Pawn C is sprung from jail, and suddenly Sami decides that Rafey is the one. Still, though, the writers don't abandon the 'big moments' for their most coveted pieces. Pawn B, Nicole, is sprung from the slammer, but had a little sideshow as Brady/Arianna's inteloper, but then is strategically placed into their story again, returning as EJ's wife while he sexes it up with her sister. Of course, again, summer arrives, and DAYS reboots again. All the players are in play again, EJ/Nicole reunite, Rafe/Sami are together. Then, bam, here comes the griefsex, and the players are moved around the chessboard. Again......

So, when I read the spoilers, it's just the same game the writers have been playing for years. Pawn A (Lucas) returns, Pawns B&C are tossed aside in a new game with Carrie/Daniel with no serious intentions involved. And once again, the writer's most coveted pieces are the ones that the show is really concerned about. Now, we're faced with the same story that started six, long years ago. End it and put them together.

And that's what makes the Daniel/Nicole spoilers so sickening and aggravating. They have no meaning or no merit. It's the same game that they've been playing to just get Nicole out of the picture. So, TPTB are not the least bit serious about Nicole/Daniel. If anything fans would undoubtedly embrace a Bricole reunion more eagerly than Dicole. Yet, they turn aside from that, and force Dicole upon us. And that's evident proof that they're not serious about Nicole's part in the game.
Someone needs their ass kicked for letting these crazy stories play out on camera.
IA...TPTB dont know what to do with the "pawns" so they have them on standby until the other pawn's 3 month arc is up. Each and every recent story has revolved around EJ and Sami. I bet that EJill will be in the tanker by September. Theyll bring back Rafe and Nicole from Carrie/Dan and Will will be tossed aside with Sonny and given less air time.

Guess who'll be another pawn in this endless game of I dont give a shit: Kristen.
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LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 09:24 AM
Helpless Romantic
Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I think the EJ is not a Dimera nonsense will be scrapped when the new regime stuff kicks in and I could see your scenario of her siding with EJ against John only temporarily I remember a JS interview where he boasted about some great scenes with AS And just speculating but I think they will be confrontational ones where she learns that EJ really set up John while she plays dummy the next few weeks leading into the cliffhanger and then has that bombshell revealed that EJ was behind framing John and the reason they thought Johnny was "dead". But we shall see just a thought but it goes with their history whenever they have her be friendlier to him it only lasts until she finds out what he did this time. THem turning her back and siding against him where the same cycle repeats itself again and again and again... how the PTB don't ever get tierd of the same old shit I will never understand.
I think that the reveal that Sami finds out what Ej did to John won't come around the Olympic cliffhanger....I think that throughout the summer they will continue to play up Ejami, maybe whatever happens around the Olympic cliffhanger will actually bring them closer, especially if either Ej or Sami are hurt somehow.....then the rest of August and September will focus on how they 'feel' about one another and then look for it to change sometime in October and then the reveal will happen toward the end of that month into November sweeps.
Summer of suck part deux. I could see that but I am holding on to what Galen said so maybe they wont have her be as dumb, who are we kidding they will have her behaving like a total slutty dumbass only to eat crowe later when she has those blinders removed. At this point I hope the injured party is Sami because there was that tweet from Schyler where he said he was filming with AS and GG. So maybe she is injured? because him being a doctor is the only reason I could think of them sharing scenes if one of them is being checked out...
Edited by Helpless Romantic, Jul 5 2012, 09:40 AM.
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Summer of Suck part 5. KC has told us for the past five summers not to bother. Nice Work!
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Aliaron
Jul 5 2012, 07:48 AM
I think the show has failed greatly by making most of their main characters beneath the Dimeras some way. Sorry doesn't work. I have no interest in seeing the Dimeras own Salem. Especially when the two other families of power are ignored.

This show will continue to suck as long as the writers deem it necessary to flood our screen with James Scott and to try and have him carry the show. He is by far the worse lead I have ever seen. But what do you expect from a man with no successful storyline even though he gets triple the sl as everyone else.

It's not just the writing.
I'm honestly curious - what would you deem a 'successful' storyline in the past 6 years? Or even 10 years? And what, in your opinion, made it successful?
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

^^I'm going to answer that one, and Aliaron might disagree with me, but a successful storyline in the past 10 years would be the SSK. It was arguably some of JER's best work his second time around. Both for ratings and for the show it really did something. I know many people didn't like it but I was tuning in to see what would happen and apparently others were also. We needed to know who would be next to die, who were the suspects.....it was intriguing, kept me guessing, was entertaining and frankly kept me watching....obviously, it wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but it wasn't awful either. I think the story hit issues after they were found to be alive, not before. As it was going on, I think the show engaged the audience and more importantly build it and kept them while the story was playing out.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 09:24 AM
Helpless Romantic
Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I think the EJ is not a Dimera nonsense will be scrapped when the new regime stuff kicks in and I could see your scenario of her siding with EJ against John only temporarily I remember a JS interview where he boasted about some great scenes with AS And just speculating but I think they will be confrontational ones where she learns that EJ really set up John while she plays dummy the next few weeks leading into the cliffhanger and then has that bombshell revealed that EJ was behind framing John and the reason they thought Johnny was "dead". But we shall see just a thought but it goes with their history whenever they have her be friendlier to him it only lasts until she finds out what he did this time. THem turning her back and siding against him where the same cycle repeats itself again and again and again... how the PTB don't ever get tierd of the same old shit I will never understand.
I think that the reveal that Sami finds out what Ej did to John won't come around the Olympic cliffhanger....I think that throughout the summer they will continue to play up Ejami, maybe whatever happens around the Olympic cliffhanger will actually bring them closer, especially if either Ej or Sami are hurt somehow.....then the rest of August and September will focus on how they 'feel' about one another and then look for it to change sometime in October and then the reveal will happen toward the end of that month into November sweeps.
Of all the things that could potentially blow EJami up if and when they ever do become romantic again, I just don't think EJ setting John up would cause much more than a raised eyebrow from Sami. It's pretty much assumed to be the God's honest truth throughout Salem at this point - people (Rafe, Billie, Jarlena, Bope, Kate, etc.) talk about it as if everyone and their brother already knows. EJ has done little if anything to deny it or cover it up. In fact, he's basically been cast as Stefano's victim because he wound up screwing EJ over with the money. So if there is to be a showdown between EJami (and no doubt there eventually will be) I sincerely doubt that would be the big catalyst.
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Jul 5 2012, 09:10 AM
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Jul 4 2012, 04:05 PM
What I don't like is Lucas focusing all his energy badmouthing E.J., when Will is just as bad. He didn't have to go with E.J. when he bailed him out, he chose to.

Lucas has always know, at least since 07, that Will was troubled. He did nothing. Now E.J. is the bad guy? He needs to focus on his son, see Will for who he is and stop obsessing over Elvis.

And also stop excluding Sami, she is Will's mother.
It is my hope that this Lucas, Will, and Ej stuff is a way to involve John and Marlena and I like it. This actually makes sense and I for one am so happy to see them involved. EJ Wells and Will Horton almost seem like the same person to me at this point, they are both acting stupid in my opinion. I have watched way to many of their scenes. I started out watching this EJ and Will story because of Will and his scenes with Marlena. I just followed the story with Will but now that he is out and is a "di Mera in training", I was losing interest until I read the spoiler with John. Now I am interested again in fact, I am looking forward to watching this play out.


I think Sami will team up with E.J. and Will to keep DiMera Enterprises in E.J.'s hands. Will is going to have to choose sides. E.J./Sami or Marlena/John. And at first, he will be "against" Jarlena, struggling with it. but ultimately, he will end up turning on E.J. and Sami. Sami will not take it well and she will be at odds with her mother and John again, because Will chose them over her. And Will will cause problems for himself and E.J.

Involving John and Marlena in this SL is a way to continue with the whole Sami vs Will. Sami vs Marlena, John and Jarlena. E.J. vs John, E.J. vs Will.
That's what I hope happens! The EJ/Will scenes yesterday were perfection and you can see how much Will really wants to continue his association with EJ. So awesome! I want to see Will have another one of his anger outbursts if he finds out John/Marlena/Lucas are going to try to take away DiMera enterprises from EJ :) Seeing Will side with EJ over Marlena & Lucas would be so great.

I can see Will siding with EJ first and then Sami will follow suit. I think Sami will sympathize with EJ, she'll want to support Will, and plus she already dislikes John & Marlena and isn't going to like their interference.

Hopefully out of all of this we see EJAMI get closer and EJ/Will continue their amazing dynamic! EJILL, EJAMI, and Will/Sami have each had their fair share of drama or love/hate relationships, which would make it so fun to see EJ, Sami, & Will all team up together!

So tired of everyone telling Will & Sami to stay from EJ. Just let them make their own choices. If it comes back to bite them in the ass, then so be it!

Bring on the drama!
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I'm sick of Ejami and Ejill, I can't even enjoy Ej anymore thanks to those two pairings/SLs. :flipoff:

And I agree that even though he's one of my favorites he's on too much, along with Beast who seems to be in every SL as well. :shame:
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Jul 5 2012, 10:08 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 09:24 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM
Ali_James
Jul 5 2012, 09:13 AM
E.J. may not be a bio DiMera. But he still owns the company and his last name is Dimera. Sami and Lucas work for him, Will too. Oh the irony...
I think the EJ is not a Dimera nonsense will be scrapped when the new regime stuff kicks in and I could see your scenario of her siding with EJ against John only temporarily I remember a JS interview where he boasted about some great scenes with AS And just speculating but I think they will be confrontational ones where she learns that EJ really set up John while she plays dummy the next few weeks leading into the cliffhanger and then has that bombshell revealed that EJ was behind framing John and the reason they thought Johnny was "dead". But we shall see just a thought but it goes with their history whenever they have her be friendlier to him it only lasts until she finds out what he did this time. THem turning her back and siding against him where the same cycle repeats itself again and again and again... how the PTB don't ever get tierd of the same old shit I will never understand.
I think that the reveal that Sami finds out what Ej did to John won't come around the Olympic cliffhanger....I think that throughout the summer they will continue to play up Ejami, maybe whatever happens around the Olympic cliffhanger will actually bring them closer, especially if either Ej or Sami are hurt somehow.....then the rest of August and September will focus on how they 'feel' about one another and then look for it to change sometime in October and then the reveal will happen toward the end of that month into November sweeps.
Of all the things that could potentially blow EJami up if and when they ever do become romantic again, I just don't think EJ setting John up would cause much more than a raised eyebrow from Sami. It's pretty much assumed to be the God's honest truth throughout Salem at this point - people (Rafe, Billie, Jarlena, Bope, Kate, etc.) talk about it as if everyone and their brother already knows. EJ has done little if anything to deny it or cover it up. In fact, he's basically been cast as Stefano's victim because he wound up screwing EJ over with the money. So if there is to be a showdown between EJami (and no doubt there eventually will be) I sincerely doubt that would be the big catalyst.
What leads me to believe that it WILL be that is the fact that everyone seems to know BUT Sami. Surely if people are assuming this and talking about it openly, Sami would have found out by now no? But that is being kept from her? WHY? There has to be a reason..... and it will probably be just like the Sydnapping...where everyone told her that he really hadn't changed but she would tell everyone he had, then boom she finds out and all hell breaks lose.

Sami is irrational. She would side against John and with Ej only to throw a fit when the truth comes out about Ej not being 'truthful' with her about what he did to John. Remember they have made a big deal about having Sami say more than once that she faults the fact that Rafe and Carrie were on the same side of John's case with them falling for one another. Shit, she events faults that closeness for her marriage ending more than she faults her own cheating. It's just odd that she would continue to say this while we know that what truly caused her marriage to end was her pulling away from Rafe because of her guilt about what she had done with Ej.
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Jul 5 2012, 10:16 AM
I'm sick of Ejami and Ejill, I can't even enjoy Ej anymore thanks to those two pairings/SLs. :flipoff:

And I agree that even though he's one of my favorites he's on too much, along with Beast who seems to be in every SL as well. :shame:
HopelessDreamer I just have to say your banner is hysterical :laugh:
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

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Jul 5 2012, 10:22 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 09:24 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM

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I think that the reveal that Sami finds out what Ej did to John won't come around the Olympic cliffhanger....I think that throughout the summer they will continue to play up Ejami, maybe whatever happens around the Olympic cliffhanger will actually bring them closer, especially if either Ej or Sami are hurt somehow.....then the rest of August and September will focus on how they 'feel' about one another and then look for it to change sometime in October and then the reveal will happen toward the end of that month into November sweeps.
Of all the things that could potentially blow EJami up if and when they ever do become romantic again, I just don't think EJ setting John up would cause much more than a raised eyebrow from Sami. It's pretty much assumed to be the God's honest truth throughout Salem at this point - people (Rafe, Billie, Jarlena, Bope, Kate, etc.) talk about it as if everyone and their brother already knows. EJ has done little if anything to deny it or cover it up. In fact, he's basically been cast as Stefano's victim because he wound up screwing EJ over with the money. So if there is to be a showdown between EJami (and no doubt there eventually will be) I sincerely doubt that would be the big catalyst.
What leads me to believe that it WILL be that is the fact that everyone seems to know BUT Sami. Surely if people are assuming this and talking about it openly, Sami would have found out by now no? But that is being kept from her? WHY? There has to be a reason..... and it will probably be just like the Sydnapping...where everyone told her that he really hadn't changed but she would tell everyone he had, then boom she finds out and all hell breaks lose.

Sami is irrational. She would side against John and with Ej only to throw a fit when the truth comes out about Ej not being 'truthful' with her about what he did to John. Remember they have made a big deal about having Sami say more than once that she faults the fact that Rafe and Carrie were on the same side of John's case with them falling for one another. Shit, she events faults that closeness for her marriage ending more than she faults her own cheating. It's just odd that she would continue to say this while we know that what truly caused her marriage to end was her pulling away from Rafe because of her guilt about what she had done with Ej.
I don't think the information has been 'kept' from Sami intentionally - I just don't think it's important enough to focus on with her. All indications on screen since John's return is that Sami has returned to her attitude of resenting him and more or less blaming him for everythng including global warming. So Sami learning that EJ set him up - or even suspecting it - feels like a non story to me.

If they were pairing EJ and Carrie and keeping Carrie in the dark about all of this, then yeah...I would buy that it would end up being the deal breaker. But with Sami? I just don't see it.
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Jul 5 2012, 10:26 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 10:16 AM
I'm sick of Ejami and Ejill, I can't even enjoy Ej anymore thanks to those two pairings/SLs. :flipoff:

And I agree that even though he's one of my favorites he's on too much, along with Beast who seems to be in every SL as well. :shame:
HopelessDreamer I just have to say your banner is hysterical :laugh:
Thanks glad it gave you a good laugh. Ash made it. :rockon:
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