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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,721 Views)
tomsawyer
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Jul 5 2012, 10:46 AM
I don't think the information has been 'kept' from Sami intentionally - I just don't think it's important enough to focus on with her. All indications on screen since John's return is that Sami has returned to her attitude of resenting him and more or less blaming him for everythng including global warming. So Sami learning that EJ set him up - or even suspecting it - feels like a non story to me.

If they were pairing EJ and Carrie and keeping Carrie in the dark about all of this, then yeah...I would buy that it would end up being the deal breaker. But with Sami? I just don't see it.
I think the story could go either way. They haven't been building it up as EJ keeping a secret from Sami like they did with the Sydnap in 2010. In fact, they rarely even mention that EJ set up John and he certainly isn't feeling bad about it. If Ejami gets closer, I could see it be an issue they start to build up. But I could also see it be as insignificant of an issue as apparently EJ's blackmail of Will has turned out to be - i.e. one that is resolved in an epi because it's no big deal to Sami.
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Of all the things that could potentially blow EJami up if and when they ever do become romantic again, I just don't think EJ setting John up would cause much more than a raised eyebrow from Sami. It's pretty much assumed to be the God's honest truth throughout Salem at this point - people (Rafe, Billie, Jarlena, Bope, Kate, etc.) talk about it as if everyone and their brother already knows. EJ has done little if anything to deny it or cover it up. In fact, he's basically been cast as Stefano's victim because he wound up screwing EJ over with the money. So if there is to be a showdown between EJami (and no doubt there eventually will be) I sincerely doubt that would be the big catalyst.
What leads me to believe that it WILL be that is the fact that everyone seems to know BUT Sami. Surely if people are assuming this and talking about it openly, Sami would have found out by now no? But that is being kept from her? WHY? There has to be a reason..... and it will probably be just like the Sydnapping...where everyone told her that he really hadn't changed but she would tell everyone he had, then boom she finds out and all hell breaks lose.

Sami is irrational. She would side against John and with Ej only to throw a fit when the truth comes out about Ej not being 'truthful' with her about what he did to John. Remember they have made a big deal about having Sami say more than once that she faults the fact that Rafe and Carrie were on the same side of John's case with them falling for one another. Shit, she events faults that closeness for her marriage ending more than she faults her own cheating. It's just odd that she would continue to say this while we know that what truly caused her marriage to end was her pulling away from Rafe because of her guilt about what she had done with Ej.
I don't think the information has been 'kept' from Sami intentionally - I just don't think it's important enough to focus on with her. All indications on screen since John's return is that Sami has returned to her attitude of resenting him and more or less blaming him for everythng including global warming. So Sami learning that EJ set him up - or even suspecting it - feels like a non story to me.

If they were pairing EJ and Carrie and keeping Carrie in the dark about all of this, then yeah...I would buy that it would end up being the deal breaker. But with Sami? I just don't see it.
Idk about it being an EJ vs Sami thing, but Sami went back to that way of thinking regarding John because of the charges against him. The issue between EJ and Sami when it comes to thy subject should be that EJ's actions set the ball rolling for someone to open fire at the pub when Samj was there with her (and EJ's) chuldren.
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I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
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Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
Well, she pulled away from him because she cheated. Egg/chicken
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lysie
Jul 5 2012, 11:00 AM
SocRMum1
Jul 5 2012, 10:46 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 10:22 AM
SocRMum1
Jul 5 2012, 10:08 AM

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What leads me to believe that it WILL be that is the fact that everyone seems to know BUT Sami. Surely if people are assuming this and talking about it openly, Sami would have found out by now no? But that is being kept from her? WHY? There has to be a reason..... and it will probably be just like the Sydnapping...where everyone told her that he really hadn't changed but she would tell everyone he had, then boom she finds out and all hell breaks lose.

Sami is irrational. She would side against John and with Ej only to throw a fit when the truth comes out about Ej not being 'truthful' with her about what he did to John. Remember they have made a big deal about having Sami say more than once that she faults the fact that Rafe and Carrie were on the same side of John's case with them falling for one another. Shit, she events faults that closeness for her marriage ending more than she faults her own cheating. It's just odd that she would continue to say this while we know that what truly caused her marriage to end was her pulling away from Rafe because of her guilt about what she had done with Ej.
I don't think the information has been 'kept' from Sami intentionally - I just don't think it's important enough to focus on with her. All indications on screen since John's return is that Sami has returned to her attitude of resenting him and more or less blaming him for everythng including global warming. So Sami learning that EJ set him up - or even suspecting it - feels like a non story to me.

If they were pairing EJ and Carrie and keeping Carrie in the dark about all of this, then yeah...I would buy that it would end up being the deal breaker. But with Sami? I just don't see it.
Idk about it being an EJ vs Sami thing, but Sami went back to that way of thinking regarding John because of the charges against him. The issue between EJ and Sami when it comes to thy subject should be that EJ's actions set the ball rolling for someone to open fire at the pub when Samj was there with her (and EJ's) chuldren.
And EJ's actions are what brought John and Marlena back to Salem, throwing Carrie and Rafe into a close "working together" arrangement to get John off. (yeah, I meant it like that.) Which of course led to googly eyes, lots of hugs and a partnership in the worst PI firm in the history of the Universe.

Though, I doubt Sami will give a flying fart. But who knows with that fickle pickle.
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Jul 5 2012, 11:08 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
Well, she pulled away from him because she cheated. Egg/chicken
She was already ranting and raving tho from them working together on John's case. Before she got down and dirty with EJ on the Dimera couch of love.
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

lysie
Jul 5 2012, 11:00 AM
SocRMum1
Jul 5 2012, 10:46 AM
LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 10:22 AM
SocRMum1
Jul 5 2012, 10:08 AM

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What leads me to believe that it WILL be that is the fact that everyone seems to know BUT Sami. Surely if people are assuming this and talking about it openly, Sami would have found out by now no? But that is being kept from her? WHY? There has to be a reason..... and it will probably be just like the Sydnapping...where everyone told her that he really hadn't changed but she would tell everyone he had, then boom she finds out and all hell breaks lose.

Sami is irrational. She would side against John and with Ej only to throw a fit when the truth comes out about Ej not being 'truthful' with her about what he did to John. Remember they have made a big deal about having Sami say more than once that she faults the fact that Rafe and Carrie were on the same side of John's case with them falling for one another. Shit, she events faults that closeness for her marriage ending more than she faults her own cheating. It's just odd that she would continue to say this while we know that what truly caused her marriage to end was her pulling away from Rafe because of her guilt about what she had done with Ej.
I don't think the information has been 'kept' from Sami intentionally - I just don't think it's important enough to focus on with her. All indications on screen since John's return is that Sami has returned to her attitude of resenting him and more or less blaming him for everythng including global warming. So Sami learning that EJ set him up - or even suspecting it - feels like a non story to me.

If they were pairing EJ and Carrie and keeping Carrie in the dark about all of this, then yeah...I would buy that it would end up being the deal breaker. But with Sami? I just don't see it.
Idk about it being an EJ vs Sami thing, but Sami went back to that way of thinking regarding John because of the charges against him. The issue between EJ and Sami when it comes to thy subject should be that EJ's actions set the ball rolling for someone to open fire at the pub when Samj was there with her (and EJ's) chuldren.
I absolutely agree that is what the issue between them should be but thus far I haven't seen any indication they'll bother to revisit it. In fact, at this point I'll be a bit surprised if they ever really put any focus on the fact that EJ set John up because you'd think they'd then have to play that story out. If it ever comes to a point that truth 'comes out' to a degree is has to be dealt with - what would that entail? Will they put EJ in jail? They should...but it seems unlikely is history is any indicator. So it just feels to me like most stories in the past they trot it out now and again in dialogue with characters but I doubt they'll ever focus on it much more than that in the future.
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Jul 5 2012, 11:08 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
Well, she pulled away from him because she cheated. Egg/chicken
Nope. There's no indication that Rafe would have left Sami or that she would have left him due to her guilt and the way it manifested. It caused a strain, but it didn't cause the break up.
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Jul 5 2012, 11:24 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 11:08 AM
six
Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
Well, she pulled away from him because she cheated. Egg/chicken
Nope. There's no indication that Rafe would have left Sami or that she would have left him due to her guilt and the way it manifested. It caused a strain, but it didn't cause the break up.
Lol. I think I missed something.
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Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
IMHO DH/GT's Days USE to be very heavy handed, but MarDar got away from that and gave us basically no lead up to some of the major turns in their stories....since this is still very much their story I can see how they wouldn't mention it, or even hint at it.....OR it can be that they had no reason to until Sami and Ej started getting closer and I guess based on this week's spoiler SOD article, we are getting there now. I'm assuming if they are going that route we will start seeing more and more of it in the story as it plays out soon.....then again GT is back and he's HW now...so whether it was MarDar's intention to bring it up more or it's GT's insertion we will never really know. But I'm willing to bet at this stage that it's the one thing that Sami will care about when she finds out. What else is there? Aside from Will getting hurt doing something underhanded for Ej, I see nothing else brewing that can cause a problem for Ejami and we all know that there will be a reason for Sami to again turn around and call Ej every name in the book.
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Jul 5 2012, 09:31 AM
Summer of suck part deux. I could see that but I am holding on to what Galen said so maybe they wont have her be as dumb, who are we kidding they will have her behaving like a total slutty dumbass only to eat crowe later when she has those blinders removed. At this point I hope the injured party is Sami because there was that tweet from Schyler where he said he was filming with AS and GG. So maybe she is injured? because him being a doctor is the only reason I could think of them sharing scenes if one of them is being checked out...
Either that or she has slept with EJ and forgotten to use protection once again and is now pregnant! Pwahaha.

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Jul 5 2012, 10:26 AM
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Jul 5 2012, 10:16 AM
I'm sick of Ejami and Ejill, I can't even enjoy Ej anymore thanks to those two pairings/SLs. :flipoff:

And I agree that even though he's one of my favorites he's on too much, along with Beast who seems to be in every SL as well. :shame:
HopelessDreamer I just have to say your banner is hysterical :laugh:
It sickens me....considering the characters I'll add that it's also fitting for these two.
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Well, Sami is obviously into EJ and we'll see how the writing continues for EJami something tells me that this is just the beginning for this couple and they'll probably go full force with them, so previous relationships will probably not be so current. So what happens to Lucas, Nicole, Rafe? who knows? but they will probably not be of any significance for EJami! IMO
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Jul 5 2012, 01:16 PM
Well, Sami is obviously into EJ and we'll see how the writing continues for EJami something tells me that this is just the beginning for this couple and they'll probably go full force with them, so previous relationships will probably not be so current. So what happens to Lucas, Nicole, Rafe? who knows? but they will probably not be of any significance for EJami! IMO
Going full force with a couple doesn't mean much anymore. They'll still find a way to make it a triangle.
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Jul 5 2012, 01:19 PM
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Jul 5 2012, 01:16 PM
Well, Sami is obviously into EJ and we'll see how the writing continues for EJami something tells me that this is just the beginning for this couple and they'll probably go full force with them, so previous relationships will probably not be so current. So what happens to Lucas, Nicole, Rafe? who knows? but they will probably not be of any significance for EJami! IMO
Going full force with a couple doesn't mean much anymore. They'll still find a way to make it a triangle.
We already know AS has been working with GG, so we'll have another round of Safe. I doubt theyll be a real triangle..Sami will be too busy yelling at EJ for the billionth time.
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Jul 5 2012, 12:46 PM
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Jul 5 2012, 09:31 AM
Summer of suck part deux. I could see that but I am holding on to what Galen said so maybe they wont have her be as dumb, who are we kidding they will have her behaving like a total slutty dumbass only to eat crowe later when she has those blinders removed. At this point I hope the injured party is Sami because there was that tweet from Schyler where he said he was filming with AS and GG. So maybe she is injured? because him being a doctor is the only reason I could think of them sharing scenes if one of them is being checked out...
Either that or she has slept with EJ and forgotten to use protection once again and is now pregnant! Pwahaha.

Sami forgets alot of things but at this point she does NOT need another kid.
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Jul 5 2012, 12:39 PM
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Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
IMHO DH/GT's Days USE to be very heavy handed, but MarDar got away from that and gave us basically no lead up to some of the major turns in their stories....since this is still very much their story I can see how they wouldn't mention it, or even hint at it.....OR it can be that they had no reason to until Sami and Ej started getting closer and I guess based on this week's spoiler SOD article, we are getting there now. I'm assuming if they are going that route we will start seeing more and more of it in the story as it plays out soon.....then again GT is back and he's HW now...so whether it was MarDar's intention to bring it up more or it's GT's insertion we will never really know. But I'm willing to bet at this stage that it's the one thing that Sami will care about when she finds out. What else is there? Aside from Will getting hurt doing something underhanded for Ej, I see nothing else brewing that can cause a problem for Ejami and we all know that there will be a reason for Sami to again turn around and call Ej every name in the book.
There's no reason why there already has to be something else to make Sami hate EJ. I know Days likes to cause trouble for ejami before they begin, but it's not a requirement. :)
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

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Jul 5 2012, 01:24 PM
LuvingLumi
Jul 5 2012, 12:39 PM
six
Jul 5 2012, 11:07 AM
I mostly agree with tomsawyer. Days is usually very heavy handed with these kinds of things. I think if they were planning on having that cause a huge showdown, Sami would still be complaining that John endangered her family, or she'd be telling EJj and everyone else that he changed. She doesn't seem to care about John though and she knows EJ doesn't want to change and doesn't appear to mind. I also disagree that Sami's marriage was destroyed because she pulled away from Rafe; it was destroyed because he found out she cheated. I could see the new writers using EJ framing John to reunite safe, but there's no indication that that was the original plan.
IMHO DH/GT's Days USE to be very heavy handed, but MarDar got away from that and gave us basically no lead up to some of the major turns in their stories....since this is still very much their story I can see how they wouldn't mention it, or even hint at it.....OR it can be that they had no reason to until Sami and Ej started getting closer and I guess based on this week's spoiler SOD article, we are getting there now. I'm assuming if they are going that route we will start seeing more and more of it in the story as it plays out soon.....then again GT is back and he's HW now...so whether it was MarDar's intention to bring it up more or it's GT's insertion we will never really know. But I'm willing to bet at this stage that it's the one thing that Sami will care about when she finds out. What else is there? Aside from Will getting hurt doing something underhanded for Ej, I see nothing else brewing that can cause a problem for Ejami and we all know that there will be a reason for Sami to again turn around and call Ej every name in the book.
There's no reason why there already has to be something else to make Sami hate EJ. I know Days likes to cause trouble for ejami before they begin, but it's not a requirement. :)
Well if they are going to be happily ever after then fine as long as they don't grace the screen I'll be fine...they can go to London, Switzerland, the French Alps, anything but get them the hell away from my TV screen....lol...
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Liz<3Days
Jul 5 2012, 01:22 PM
lysie
Jul 5 2012, 01:19 PM
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Jul 5 2012, 01:16 PM
Well, Sami is obviously into EJ and we'll see how the writing continues for EJami something tells me that this is just the beginning for this couple and they'll probably go full force with them, so previous relationships will probably not be so current. So what happens to Lucas, Nicole, Rafe? who knows? but they will probably not be of any significance for EJami! IMO
Going full force with a couple doesn't mean much anymore. They'll still find a way to make it a triangle.
We already know AS has been working with GG, so we'll have another round of Safe. I doubt theyll be a real triangle..Sami will be too busy yelling at EJ for the billionth time.
Considering that everything happening on the show now was a bomb and got MarDar fired, I have a feeling rekindlings of love like Safe and Ejole will eventually find their way back. All this Ejami and Dicole stuff that's been happening has been just terrible and out of character for ALL parties involved.
Edited by Ashtonion, Jul 5 2012, 01:29 PM.
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