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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,715 Views)
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Jul 7 2012, 03:08 PM
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Jul 6 2012, 10:49 AM
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Jul 6 2012, 10:39 AM
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Jul 6 2012, 10:31 AM
EJami are no more a joke than LUMI or EJole. All these couples are dysfunctional. How do you come back from years of tormenting each other, death row or your hubby playing a part in your mother's death or your wife standing by and watching you mourn the death of a child that wasn't yours? Yet, here we have LUMI and EJole. EJami can come back too.

How many times is Carrie going to fall for another guy, while poor Austin gets to wait for her. Yet, they always get back together..don't ask me why.
Another excellent point and this really is the bottom line for me.

Rock on with your dysfunctional selves, EJami. :rockon:
Granted though I am a SAFE fan the reason I could grow to like LUMI in the past and I also like EJOLE is that though yes they are dysfunctional I saw genuine love, care and understanding btwn them. Where EJ does not need to pretend to be good for Nicole to look at him. Where Sami only gave him a look when no one else was avaliable or thought he was "changing" all the while because another of EJ's lies would come out and then she would dump him. This is just WHY I can never like EJAMI without going into specifics of their history. Sami has NEVER said she loves him, I have NEVER seen her long for him or do any of the things you do when you love someone and the attraction itself is not enough. Never mind that MarDar just decided to ignore everything about them and that they did to each other to get them together. THAT does not work for me. But as of now I really think sami just needs to be alone to really re- evaluate herself and her life. I mean after five marriages you would think she would have done so by now.
well ej is not pretending to be good now. he is not trying to trick sami into falling for him. sami is well aware of what ej is capable of. she wants him to try to be his own man for the sake of his children. but ej has never said he would. yet sami can't seem to stay away from him.

as them not showing genuine love, IMO, ej has always been heads over heels in love with sami. she is the love of his life. granted, sami has never allowed herself to give her heart fully to ej YET. the best we have gotten are 'feelings'.

but hopefully, things will change. i am excited to see sami's 'feelings' develop into genuine love and acceptance of ej. it will be even more amazing because we have waited so long for that.

as far as ejole go, to each its own, but i honestly never seen genuine love from ej for nicole. animal attraction yes. nicole has always played second fiddle. ej has always been longing for another woman while with nicole. he was fantasizing about sami while married to nicole and he fell in love with taylor while married to nicole. sorry, i have not never seen that genuine love except maybe under MarDar writing. but i think it is because ej, like sami, is afraid to be alone and he thinks nicole is his only chance of being happy.
EJ is not pretending to be anything this time around with Sami. When she came over the other day he told her don't antagonize him (wub the smile on his face), so he is not cow towing to her wishes like in the past to get on her good side.

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has ejole ever sat down and discussed nicole faking a pregancy and wearing a pillow all those months? or have they discussed his love for her sister taylor or him causing her mom's death or or nicole kidnapping sydney , blackmailing ej or helping rafe bring him down?

ejami is not the only couple who sweep ugly things under the carpet. it is fair game for all couple.
Ejole did discuss all those things you mentioned.
no they did not......Taylor was a nice laugh while sipping champagne, even when Nicole found EJ in pain and was spitting venom at a man suffering, there was no talk of when, why, where and how.

When it comes to the baby, nothing besides EJ making a joke off it and then saying the other day he already forgave her for it!

EJ and Sami are not together, are not in a place where they are ready to be together, so there is still time for their talk about the last two years before they jump into the sack like some others.

We'll disagree then...

It was discussed...maybe you didnt think it was enough of a conversation...but it happened and it still happens. Just like the scenes when they felt the baby kick. When EJ brought up the kidnapping, he wasnt laughing or making it into a joke- he was mad. Mad enough for Nicole to leave and then EJ explained why be brought it up and told her that he'd forgiven her. I can post the clip later, but I think we'll still disagree, so I'll just leave it at that.

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Ejole did discuss all those things you mentioned.
no they did not......Taylor was a nice laugh while sipping champagne, even when Nicole found EJ in pain and was spitting venom at a man suffering, there was no talk of when, why, where and how.

When it comes to the baby, nothing besides EJ making a joke off it and then saying the other day he already forgave her for it!

EJ and Sami are not together, are not in a place where they are ready to be together, so there is still time for their talk about the last two years before they jump into the sack like some others.

We'll disagree then...

It was discussed...maybe you didnt think it was enough of a conversation...but it happened and it still happens. Just like the scenes when they felt the baby kick. When EJ brought up the kidnapping, he wasnt laughing or making it into a joke- he was mad. Mad enough for Nicole to leave and then EJ explained why be brought it up and told her that he'd forgiven her. I can post the clip later, but I think we'll still disagree, so I'll just leave it at that.

we will have to agree to disagree, because him getting mad over her second betrayal and later saying he already forgave her for it and is sorry he brought it up again does not translate to a talk over her stealing his baby, making him grieve for one that was not his.

when it comes to EJAMI, here is to hoping we get them trashing it out......raw and real......love it!
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Or why not talk about Fafe raping her and have a good laugh like EJ did when he called him? Good times. Please..nothing is EVER talked about with EJ and Sami...laughing about is not talking through what they have done to each other...they are a joke.


has ejole ever sat down and discussed nicole faking a pregancy and wearing a pillow all those months? or have they discussed his love for her sister taylor or him causing her mom's death or or nicole kidnapping sydney , blackmailing ej or helping rafe bring him down?

ejami is not the only couple who sweep ugly things under the carpet. it is fair game for all couple.
Ejole did discuss all those things you mentioned.
Exactly. It wasn't like they drank a bottle of champagne and never talked about their history again. Nicole has broughten Tayho and her mother's death several times. Even at the reveal Nicole said you cheated on me again, they could have just ignored the Ejaylor part but they didn't. And they even brought up Ej losing it on Nicole when he was a drunken mess on the pier. I'd hardly say Ejole's history glossed over. Now compare that to Beast never talking about the Rafe 2 crap and them making a joke out of Beast shooting Ej in the head. I think they even brought up some of Lumi's bad history while continuing to ignore the bad history of a certain pairing.
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has ejole ever sat down and discussed nicole faking a pregancy and wearing a pillow all those months? or have they discussed his love for her sister taylor or him causing her mom's death or or nicole kidnapping sydney , blackmailing ej or helping rafe bring him down?

ejami is not the only couple who sweep ugly things under the carpet. it is fair game for all couple.
Ejole did discuss all those things you mentioned.
Exactly. It wasn't like they drank a bottle of champagne and never talked about their history again. Nicole has broughten Tayho and her mother's death several times. Even at the reveal Nicole said you cheated on me again, they could have just ignored the Ejaylor part but they didn't. And they even brought up Ej losing it on Nicole when he was a drunken mess on the pier. I'd hardly say Ejole's history glossed over. Now compare that to Beast never talking about the Rafe 2 crap and them making a joke out of Beast shooting Ej in the head. I think they even brought up some of Lumi's bad history while continuing to ignore the bad history of a certain pairing.
She jumped in the sack with him with barely a blink, when did EJOLE talk about EJ trying to kill her? Dikki's convo does not equal EJOLE talking about it.

as for EJAMI, they are makign a point of showing them having trust issues because of their past, they are not willing to go down that road again because of how crazy they can both become and it is why after four months unlike every other pairing EJAMI have not hit the sack. Time is being taken to mold something out of the mess DH created.

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Who is ever alone on a soap?
In the past Jennifer, Hope, Kayla and Kimberly were alone when their husbands were "dead" or MIA. Not every female needs to be with a man and it would do all of them good to be without a man ie Sami and Nicole to really figure out who and what they really want. No one ever questioned who the ladies that I mentioned wanted. They knew who they wanted and didn't settle for anyone else. They were also secure in who they were strong independent and were actually seen working. Yeah Sami got the CEO job handed to her but she hasn't worked at all.


wait a minute. if memory serves, (and if it is a big if) kayla hooked up with shane the second steve died. kimberly hooked up with that psycho (whatever his name what) who 'killed' shane. jennifer hooked with stephano's son. kristen brother.

lead females hooking is nothing new. it has always been like that. just that they used to have better writing.
Kayla did not hook up with Shane the second Steve died and that "hookup" is never mentioned neither are the Jennifer and Peter years in fact when they came back in the early 2000s Jennifer ever marrying Peter was dropped and has not ever been spoken of since the 90s when the SL took place. Those years were also for the most part also the fake Jack and Jennifer years so IMO as a JnJ fan irrelevant to their history. On your other posts EJ is still not being honest with Sami about everything ie framing John and its only up for the PTB to decide who they want with whom and that still remains to be seen because this is still MarDar's writing.
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Who is ever alone on a soap?
In the past Jennifer, Hope, Kayla and Kimberly were alone when their husbands were "dead" or MIA. Not every female needs to be with a man and it would do all of them good to be without a man ie Sami and Nicole to really figure out who and what they really want. No one ever questioned who the ladies that I mentioned wanted. They knew who they wanted and didn't settle for anyone else. They were also secure in who they were strong independent and were actually seen working. Yeah Sami got the CEO job handed to her but she hasn't worked at all.


wait a minute. if memory serves, (and if it is a big if) kayla hooked up with shane the second steve died. kimberly hooked up with that psycho (whatever his name what) who 'killed' shane. jennifer hooked with stephano's son. kristen brother.

lead females hooking is nothing new. it has always been like that. just that they used to have better writing.
Kayla did not hook up with Shane the second Steve died and that "hookup" is never mentioned neither are the Jennifer and Peter years in fact when they came back in the early 2000s Jennifer ever marrying Peter was dropped. and has not ever been spoken of since. Those years were also for the most part were also the fake Jack and Jennifer years so IMO as a JnJ fan irrelevant to their history. On your other posts EJ is still not being honest with Sami about everything ie framing John and its only up for the PTB to decide who they want with whom and that still remains to be seen because this is still MarDar's writing.
EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John?

They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now.

If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
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Ejole did discuss all those things you mentioned.
Exactly. It wasn't like they drank a bottle of champagne and never talked about their history again. Nicole has broughten Tayho and her mother's death several times. Even at the reveal Nicole said you cheated on me again, they could have just ignored the Ejaylor part but they didn't. And they even brought up Ej losing it on Nicole when he was a drunken mess on the pier. I'd hardly say Ejole's history glossed over. Now compare that to Beast never talking about the Rafe 2 crap and them making a joke out of Beast shooting Ej in the head. I think they even brought up some of Lumi's bad history while continuing to ignore the bad history of a certain pairing.
She jumped in the sack with him with barely a blink, when did EJOLE talk about EJ trying to kill her? Dikki's convo does not equal EJOLE talking about it.

as for EJAMI, they are makign a point of showing them having trust issues because of their past, they are not willing to go down that road again because of how crazy they can both become and it is why after four months unlike every other pairing EJAMI have not hit the sack. Time is being taken to mold something out of the mess DH created.

Ejole have discussed those things. Yes Nicole did jump in the sack with Ej but it was just a day later she made him sign divorce papers because she felt she couldn't trust him because of their history. It didn't get glossed over and for me Dicole bringing up that incident at the pier does count because it relates to the bad part of Ejole's history.

Now compare that to what's going on with Ejami, all of a sudden their instant bffs, they gloss over Ej blackmailing Will. They have a dead Lexie pimping them when she knew that beast had no problem blowing her brother's brains out. They haven't dealt or discussed ANYTHING, instead they share a bottle of champagne and none of the bad things they have done to each other matter anymore.
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TV Guide Spoilers WK July 9th

Monday July 9th
Brady tries to convince Madison that he hasn't been lying; EJ has an angry outburst during his polygraph test; Nicole and Daniel enjoy a day of fun and romance.

Tuesday July 10th
EJ receives the results of his polygraph test; Will questions EJ about Stefano's murder; Daniel worries that he's going to end up in another love triangle; Lucas confronts Will about working for EJ.

Wednesday July 11th
Chad learns that Melanie never went to Europe; Lucas confides in John and Marlena about Will's involvement with EJ again; Melanie tries to charm Andrew and pretends to bond with him; EJ and Sami nearly kiss .

Thursday July 12th
Chad learns that Daniel also got a distressing call from Carly; Gabi begs Andrew to let Melanie go; EJ asks Sami to promise she'll protect their children ; Chad and Daniel go to the police to report that Melanie is missing.

Friday July 13th
An intense confrontation builds between Lucas and EJ ; Bo and Hope learn that Melanie's last e-mail was sent from somewhere in Salem; Chad finds Melanie's bracelet in Andrew's house; Rafe uncovers a suspicious pair of gloves in EJ's apartment
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wait a minute. if memory serves, (and if it is a big if) kayla hooked up with shane the second steve died. kimberly hooked up with that psycho (whatever his name what) who 'killed' shane. jennifer hooked with stephano's son. kristen brother.

lead females hooking is nothing new. it has always been like that. just that they used to have better writing.
Kayla did not hook up with Shane the second Steve died and that "hookup" is never mentioned neither are the Jennifer and Peter years in fact when they came back in the early 2000s Jennifer ever marrying Peter was dropped. and has not ever been spoken of since. Those years were also for the most part were also the fake Jack and Jennifer years so IMO as a JnJ fan irrelevant to their history. On your other posts EJ is still not being honest with Sami about everything ie framing John and its only up for the PTB to decide who they want with whom and that still remains to be seen because this is still MarDar's writing.
EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John?

They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now.

If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum with the same results and thats been there done that.
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Oh, I actually miss the days when Brady and EJ fought over a worthy woman -- Nicole. Anybody fighting over the Beast Down Under is laughable, especially EJ and Lucas.
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Exactly. It wasn't like they drank a bottle of champagne and never talked about their history again. Nicole has broughten Tayho and her mother's death several times. Even at the reveal Nicole said you cheated on me again, they could have just ignored the Ejaylor part but they didn't. And they even brought up Ej losing it on Nicole when he was a drunken mess on the pier. I'd hardly say Ejole's history glossed over. Now compare that to Beast never talking about the Rafe 2 crap and them making a joke out of Beast shooting Ej in the head. I think they even brought up some of Lumi's bad history while continuing to ignore the bad history of a certain pairing.
She jumped in the sack with him with barely a blink, when did EJOLE talk about EJ trying to kill her? Dikki's convo does not equal EJOLE talking about it.

as for EJAMI, they are makign a point of showing them having trust issues because of their past, they are not willing to go down that road again because of how crazy they can both become and it is why after four months unlike every other pairing EJAMI have not hit the sack. Time is being taken to mold something out of the mess DH created.

Ejole have discussed those things. Yes Nicole did jump in the sack with Ej but it was just a day later she made him sign divorce papers because she felt she couldn't trust him because of their history. It didn't get glossed over and for me Dicole bringing up that incident at the pier does count because it relates to the bad part of Ejole's history.

Now compare that to what's going on with Ejami, all of a sudden their instant bffs, they gloss over Ej blackmailing Will. They have a dead Lexie pimping them when she knew that beast had no problem blowing her brother's brains out. They haven't dealt or discussed ANYTHING, instead they share a bottle of champagne and none of the bad things they have done to each other matter anymore.
so if Dicole bringing it up, then Lucas bringing up EJ's ill deeds this week will count for EJAMI, Lucas reminding Will in EJ's presence of EJ's ill deeds against Rafe and Sami will count for EJAMI as well.

Personally however, NAH! its takes the pair it happened to to trash it out, no third parties!

and while they did have EJ and Sami click over wine, since then, all off four months ago, we have constantly heard them make reference to what she/he did to the other, they are shocked at times that they are getting along and most importantly they have made no steps to being a couple. So if or when EJ and Sami get together and do not have a talk ala May 2008, then this applies to them.

when it comes to Will's so called blackmail, Sami trashing it out with EJ is not glossing it over, sure it was not her spitting venom, but you kinda have no leg to stand on when the person being blackmailed wants to be where he is. Imagine how Lucas and Sami will feel when they learn Will is blackmailing EJ to make him his Mini Me. lol
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Kayla did not hook up with Shane the second Steve died and that "hookup" is never mentioned neither are the Jennifer and Peter years in fact when they came back in the early 2000s Jennifer ever marrying Peter was dropped. and has not ever been spoken of since. Those years were also for the most part were also the fake Jack and Jennifer years so IMO as a JnJ fan irrelevant to their history. On your other posts EJ is still not being honest with Sami about everything ie framing John and its only up for the PTB to decide who they want with whom and that still remains to be seen because this is still MarDar's writing.
EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John?

They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now.

If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum.
are they in a relationship? unless they are, what does him revealing everything have to do with it.

Unlike the Sydnapping, EJ and Sami are not getting close again because of something she thinks he did or did not do and oh is it refreshing and a joy to watch this time around. He is not tip toeing around her pretending to be the good boy; he is EJ Dimera and she just has to deal.
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Exactly. It wasn't like they drank a bottle of champagne and never talked about their history again. Nicole has broughten Tayho and her mother's death several times. Even at the reveal Nicole said you cheated on me again, they could have just ignored the Ejaylor part but they didn't. And they even brought up Ej losing it on Nicole when he was a drunken mess on the pier. I'd hardly say Ejole's history glossed over. Now compare that to Beast never talking about the Rafe 2 crap and them making a joke out of Beast shooting Ej in the head. I think they even brought up some of Lumi's bad history while continuing to ignore the bad history of a certain pairing.
She jumped in the sack with him with barely a blink, when did EJOLE talk about EJ trying to kill her? Dikki's convo does not equal EJOLE talking about it.

as for EJAMI, they are makign a point of showing them having trust issues because of their past, they are not willing to go down that road again because of how crazy they can both become and it is why after four months unlike every other pairing EJAMI have not hit the sack. Time is being taken to mold something out of the mess DH created.

Ejole have discussed those things. Yes Nicole did jump in the sack with Ej but it was just a day later she made him sign divorce papers because she felt she couldn't trust him because of their history. It didn't get glossed over and for me Dicole bringing up that incident at the pier does count because it relates to the bad part of Ejole's history.

Now compare that to what's going on with Ejami, all of a sudden their instant bffs, they gloss over Ej blackmailing Will. They have a dead Lexie pimping them when she knew that beast had no problem blowing her brother's brains out. They haven't dealt or discussed ANYTHING, instead they share a bottle of champagne and none of the bad things they have done to each other matter anymore.
Who said it doesn't matter. Their story is still being told....we got a little confrontation before grief sex happen..when ejami say stuff like it would be crazy for them to get together again..it matters...I Can't wait for the scenes were they lay everything out on the table...it's gonna be good :cheer: ...
ETA: hopefully we get scenes like that lol.. :rockon: speculation only....
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She jumped in the sack with him with barely a blink, when did EJOLE talk about EJ trying to kill her? Dikki's convo does not equal EJOLE talking about it.

as for EJAMI, they are makign a point of showing them having trust issues because of their past, they are not willing to go down that road again because of how crazy they can both become and it is why after four months unlike every other pairing EJAMI have not hit the sack. Time is being taken to mold something out of the mess DH created.

Ejole have discussed those things. Yes Nicole did jump in the sack with Ej but it was just a day later she made him sign divorce papers because she felt she couldn't trust him because of their history. It didn't get glossed over and for me Dicole bringing up that incident at the pier does count because it relates to the bad part of Ejole's history.

Now compare that to what's going on with Ejami, all of a sudden their instant bffs, they gloss over Ej blackmailing Will. They have a dead Lexie pimping them when she knew that beast had no problem blowing her brother's brains out. They haven't dealt or discussed ANYTHING, instead they share a bottle of champagne and none of the bad things they have done to each other matter anymore.
Who said it doesn't matter. Their story is still being told....we got a little confrontation before grief sex happen..when ejami say stuff like it would be crazy for them to get together again..it matters...I Can't wait for the scenes were they lay everything out on the table...it's gonna be good :cheer: ...
I am hoping that JS's favorite scenes ever which are with AS around the time of the Olympic Cliffhanger is off EJAMI trashing it out.

The fight before grief sex was soooooo good; I can only imagine with them being the way they are now, it will be even better!
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EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John?

They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now.

If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum.
are they in a relationship? unless they are, what does him revealing everything have to do with it.

Unlike the Sydnapping, EJ and Sami are not getting close again because of something she thinks he did or did not do and oh is it refreshing and a joy to watch this time around. He is not tip toeing around her pretending to be the good boy; he is EJ Dimera and she just has to deal.
Again MarDar were very obviously building to it and before a relationship can happen you need to build a foundation of trust which these two have never had. Making any union shakey especially if there are lies. Sami may have lied to all her partners at one time or another that she expects to be forgiven for but if she gets lied to or has something kept from her look out. I also want to say in response to RachelGreen's post that even though the Sami "hating " John was drergudged up her reasoning for that was because it brought CAFE closer together because of the case and since EJ was framing John she would at least be pissed for that reason and thinking that her son was "dead" . If she didn't care about John but her anger towards him was always because she loved him and had abandonment issues because of Stefano replacing Roman with John who she turned on because of loyalty to Roman after all was revealed but they did have her make peace and she has said she loves him like a father. At the beginning of the embezzlement case she was even angry that John was arrested and at first believing his innocence which he no doubt was. Being that EJ framed him. So even if she "hated " John she would still have a problem for the other two reasons I mentioned. I mean just last week they had her blaming John's case for the breakup of her marriage. Will TomSell have it lead anywhere remains to be seen. Once their writing takes over.
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The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum.
are they in a relationship? unless they are, what does him revealing everything have to do with it.

Unlike the Sydnapping, EJ and Sami are not getting close again because of something she thinks he did or did not do and oh is it refreshing and a joy to watch this time around. He is not tip toeing around her pretending to be the good boy; he is EJ Dimera and she just has to deal.
Again MarDar were very obviously building to it and before a relationship can happen you need to build a foundation of trust which these two have never had. Making any union shakey especially if there are lies. Sami may have lied to all her partners at one time or another that she expects to be forgiven for but if she gets lied to or has something kept from her look out. I also want to say in response to RachelGreen's post that even though the Sami "hating " John was drergudged up her reasoning for that was because it brought CAFE closer together because of the case and since EJ was framing John she would at least be pissed for that reason and thinking that her son was "dead" . If she didn't care about John but her anger towards him was always because she loved him and had abandonment issues because of Stefano replacing Roman with John who she turned on because of loyalty to Roman after all was revealed but they did have her make peace and she has said she loves him like a father. At the beginning of the embezzlement case she was even angry that John was arressted and at first believing his innocence which he no doubt was. Being that EJ framed him.
I do not think anyone is in any position to say what they were obviously doing, after all before the news of their firing I was seeing that the EJAMI being friends again were obviously crumbs or being done so EJ could prove to Nicole that he hates Sami.

The John thing can play out any number of ways; Sami can do as you say, or very much achknowledge that EJ suffered as much as she did from the shooting, that Rafe and Carrie did their own thing without any help and quite frankly if she is with EJ when she learns this truth, it should not matter because she will be where she wants to be anyway! lol
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are they in a relationship? unless they are, what does him revealing everything have to do with it.

Unlike the Sydnapping, EJ and Sami are not getting close again because of something she thinks he did or did not do and oh is it refreshing and a joy to watch this time around. He is not tip toeing around her pretending to be the good boy; he is EJ Dimera and she just has to deal.
Again MarDar were very obviously building to it and before a relationship can happen you need to build a foundation of trust which these two have never had. Making any union shakey especially if there are lies. Sami may have lied to all her partners at one time or another that she expects to be forgiven for but if she gets lied to or has something kept from her look out. I also want to say in response to RachelGreen's post that even though the Sami "hating " John was drergudged up her reasoning for that was because it brought CAFE closer together because of the case and since EJ was framing John she would at least be pissed for that reason and thinking that her son was "dead" . If she didn't care about John but her anger towards him was always because she loved him and had abandonment issues because of Stefano replacing Roman with John who she turned on because of loyalty to Roman after all was revealed but they did have her make peace and she has said she loves him like a father. At the beginning of the embezzlement case she was even angry that John was arressted and at first believing his innocence which he no doubt was. Being that EJ framed him.
I do not think anyone is in any position to say what they were obviously doing, after all before the news of their firing I was seeing that the EJAMI being friends again were obviously crumbs or being done so EJ could prove to Nicole that he hates Sami.

The John thing can play out any number of ways; Sami can do as you say, or very much achknowledge that EJ suffered as much as she did from the shooting, that Rafe and Carrie did their own thing without any help and quite frankly if she is with EJ when she learns this truth, it should not matter because she will be where she wants to be anyway! lol
I think its pretty safe to say they were. EJAMI BRADISON and CAFE got the favorable or rootable writing. In a soap it is fairly obvious who the writers want and I maintain IMO that the couples I listed were who they were going with on top of things they said in interviews and joining the Facebook page for EJAMI. Now with the writers change this direction will no doubt change as well but from all the spoilers that were very pro EJAMI the dialogue btwn them and the moments given to them all made where they were going very clear to me. Since November it was all their story and not anyone elses because Lucas has not been seen and Rafe shifted to Carrie's orbit as well as Nicole in Dan's again all MarDar.
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Again MarDar were very obviously building to it and before a relationship can happen you need to build a foundation of trust which these two have never had. Making any union shakey especially if there are lies. Sami may have lied to all her partners at one time or another that she expects to be forgiven for but if she gets lied to or has something kept from her look out. I also want to say in response to RachelGreen's post that even though the Sami "hating " John was drergudged up her reasoning for that was because it brought CAFE closer together because of the case and since EJ was framing John she would at least be pissed for that reason and thinking that her son was "dead" . If she didn't care about John but her anger towards him was always because she loved him and had abandonment issues because of Stefano replacing Roman with John who she turned on because of loyalty to Roman after all was revealed but they did have her make peace and she has said she loves him like a father. At the beginning of the embezzlement case she was even angry that John was arressted and at first believing his innocence which he no doubt was. Being that EJ framed him.
I do not think anyone is in any position to say what they were obviously doing, after all before the news of their firing I was seeing that the EJAMI being friends again were obviously crumbs or being done so EJ could prove to Nicole that he hates Sami.

The John thing can play out any number of ways; Sami can do as you say, or very much achknowledge that EJ suffered as much as she did from the shooting, that Rafe and Carrie did their own thing without any help and quite frankly if she is with EJ when she learns this truth, it should not matter because she will be where she wants to be anyway! lol
I think its pretty safe to say they were. EJAMI BRADISON and CAFE got the favorable or rootable writing. In a soap it is fairly obvious who the writers want and I maintain IMO that the couples I listed were who they were going with on top of things they said in interviews and joining the Facebook page for EJAMI. Now with the writers change this direction will no doubt change as well but from all the spoilers that were very pro EJAMI the dialogue btwn them and the moments given to them all made wheree they were going very clear to me. Since November it was all their story and not anyone elses because Lucas has not been seen and Rafe shifted to Carrie's orbit as well as Nicole in Dan's again all MarDar.
I do not see how given that EJAMI are written totally different from the Mar/Dar formula of EJOLE, Bradison, LUMI et al which is to jump into bed at a whimp and given that Mar/Dar said they were not allowed to write their stories, why is EJAMI suddenly the exception? Grief Sex happened and EJ and Sami were still eons away from each other, so I do not see how they could have been written for since Nov; are the tickle fest obsolete then?

and what does joining EJAMI's FB have to do with anything? and how can anyone be confident that the new writers will move away from EJAMI, nothing has been said to negate that NBC are not the ones who wanted EJAMI to begin with and Tom/Sell wont be able to move away from that. Point is, it can go any which way, there is nothing set in stone, and we are all guessing at this point rather tham being able to make proclamations with any amount of confidence!
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