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I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation.
JS and AZ were not on the same page as to how to play those scenes. JS decided not to go for the full choke, but then AZ sat around in the latter scenes rubbing her neck as if EJ had really hurt Nicole.
JS said he did not go all out as the script dictated, but obviously AZ did and ultimately it is the script that mattered and everything Nicole has said since then is in line with this......he tried to kill her. I agree. That's why going off script oftentimes ends up being ineffective or confusing.
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I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation.
JS and AZ were not on the same page as to how to play those scenes. JS decided not to go for the full choke, but then AZ sat around in the latter scenes rubbing her neck as if EJ had really hurt Nicole.
JS said he did not go all out as the script dictated, but obviously AZ did and ultimately it is the script that mattered and everything Nicole has said since then is in line with this......he tried to kill her.
I agree. That's why going off script oftentimes ends up being ineffective or confusing. most defintely!
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he did more than advance on her, his hands were around her neck and like Nicole repeatedly said, Daniel stopped EJ from killing her. It was his intent, he even told Lexie before he left the Dimansion. EJ and Sami have both done horrible things to each other, they are on an even platform from where I am standing AND until they are prepared to take the next step and do more than co-parent, more than what they have established now is not necessary. Getting along for the kids is where they are at now, EJ and Sami the couple however will take more. They have set it up that EJILL (who I love BTW) are a separate relationship for the most part from Sami. They deal on their own terms and both prefer no outside interference, so EJ liking/loving Sami has nothing to do with it. EJ obviously LOVES having Will near him, he reminds him of someone he adores quite a bit and if Will wants to remain at his side, why shouldn't he let him. As JS said at the emmys, EJ connects with Will in a very constructive way, and he does not have a lot of that in his life; so why would EJ just let that go. As for Will getting to blackmail Will, yep the way he found the ammo was eye rolling, however they have not had EJ rolling over and playing dead......he finally has someone who emulates him and you could see the pride in him alongside him making it clear to Will that if he goes too far he will take him down. lol......such a great push and pull and dynamic!
I watched the scene, his hands were around her neck but he did not even squeeze. It was very easy for Nicole to remove it and she did. There was no struggle going on to say that Nicole was fighting for her life. She was scared and he was drunk. He was in accusatory mode and Nicole was talking back to him. As I said, she was telling him a few home truths that he did not want to hear, he advanced again when Daniel turned up. That's how i remember it and not once throughout that scene did I think Nicole was in danger of being murdered by EJ. If EJ and Sami was just getting along for the kids sake only, and it was shown that they are only getting on for the kids sake, that I could understand but, that is not what is happening. After the griefsex, EJ buys her an appartment moves next door and is kissing her and she did not back away. There was no struggle on her part for him to let her go. Then the scenes where he got wet and had to strip, then the suposedly sexual tensions. Some more sexual tensions coming up and where are the kids in all these scenes. Nowhere to be seen. I can count on one hand the amount of times they have shown EJ with the kids since he has moved next door. That is where the problem lies, Sami willing to kiss and have sex with EJ after all the things he has done to her. As for Will, Sami is his mother. Neither Sami or Lucas should be excluded from his life just because he wants to spend time with EJ. Well the writers are not excluding her because they happened to write that she found out about EJ blackmailing Will. This made her upset and angry. They had her confronting him about it so, EJ and Will are not in their own little world with the exclusion of everybody else. The fact that Sami approached EJ and expressed her concerns and asked him to let her son go. If he cared that much, I beleive he would. Instead he guilted her into walking away from any further confrontation.
I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation. A statement such as after the grief sex makes it out as if it happened right after, when in reality it was a whole six months after more fighting and what not. So six months down the road, Sami found herself in some trouble and EJ with no romantic intentions helped her out for her sake and that of her children. They are on the road to more now, but they are not there yet so there is still time for any trash out to happen. It has nothing to do with EJ and Will being in their own little world and those most certainly were not my words......what I said and I reiterate is that EJ and Will's relationship is not going to be dictated by Sami and what she wants. They are defining it themselves as it should be and Sami just has to deal. EJ and Sami's friendship is not defined by him doing things to please her only, like it used to be in the past and I love it! The griefsex happening six months prior does not make any difference. The fact is that it happened. Does anyone really know what EJ intentions are and I did not say it was romantic, just saying for two people who formed such a quick friendship so immediately after hating each other, they are certainly not behaving as if they are getting along just for the kids sake.
Not saying he should do everything to please Sami. I should hope not anyway but, Will is Sami and Lucas son and they rightly have concerns for Will working for the Dimeras. Obiviously Will still has a lot of growing up to do. Still don't understand why EJ has to blackmail Will especially that he is willing to work for him but, her request is reasonable and her concerns are understandable.
Basically there are too many things about this story that makes no sense. EJ/Will especially no longer makes any sense.
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I watched the scene, his hands were around her neck but he did not even squeeze. It was very easy for Nicole to remove it and she did. There was no struggle going on to say that Nicole was fighting for her life. She was scared and he was drunk. He was in accusatory mode and Nicole was talking back to him. As I said, she was telling him a few home truths that he did not want to hear, he advanced again when Daniel turned up. That's how i remember it and not once throughout that scene did I think Nicole was in danger of being murdered by EJ. If EJ and Sami was just getting along for the kids sake only, and it was shown that they are only getting on for the kids sake, that I could understand but, that is not what is happening. After the griefsex, EJ buys her an appartment moves next door and is kissing her and she did not back away. There was no struggle on her part for him to let her go. Then the scenes where he got wet and had to strip, then the suposedly sexual tensions. Some more sexual tensions coming up and where are the kids in all these scenes. Nowhere to be seen. I can count on one hand the amount of times they have shown EJ with the kids since he has moved next door. That is where the problem lies, Sami willing to kiss and have sex with EJ after all the things he has done to her. As for Will, Sami is his mother. Neither Sami or Lucas should be excluded from his life just because he wants to spend time with EJ. Well the writers are not excluding her because they happened to write that she found out about EJ blackmailing Will. This made her upset and angry. They had her confronting him about it so, EJ and Will are not in their own little world with the exclusion of everybody else. The fact that Sami approached EJ and expressed her concerns and asked him to let her son go. If he cared that much, I beleive he would. Instead he guilted her into walking away from any further confrontation.
I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation. A statement such as after the grief sex makes it out as if it happened right after, when in reality it was a whole six months after more fighting and what not. So six months down the road, Sami found herself in some trouble and EJ with no romantic intentions helped her out for her sake and that of her children. They are on the road to more now, but they are not there yet so there is still time for any trash out to happen. It has nothing to do with EJ and Will being in their own little world and those most certainly were not my words......what I said and I reiterate is that EJ and Will's relationship is not going to be dictated by Sami and what she wants. They are defining it themselves as it should be and Sami just has to deal. EJ and Sami's friendship is not defined by him doing things to please her only, like it used to be in the past and I love it!
The griefsex happening six months prior does not make any difference. The fact is that it happened. Does anyone really know what EJ intentions are and I did not say it was romantic, just saying for two people who formed such a quick friendship so immediately after hating each other, they are certainly not behaving as if they are getting along just for the kids sake. Not saying he should do everything to please Sami. I should hope not anyway but, Will is Sami and Lucas son and they rightly have concerns for Will working for the Dimeras. Obiviously Will still has a lot of growing up to do. Still don't understand why EJ has to blackmail Will especially that he is willing to work for him but, her request is reasonable and her concerns are understandable. Basically there are too many things about this story that makes no sense. EJ/Will especially no longer makes any sense. No one is negating that the grief sex happened, the point is that it did not lead to him getting her an apartment and saving her from Kate.
EJ and Sami are not just a quick friendship though,; there is a lot of history, both good and bad that this reconnection is building on therefore there is an obvious amount of tension at times, anger at times and understanding at times but they both agreed from the get go to keep it platonic and for their children. Thus far neither has acted on anything.
also nothing about what I said had anything to do with Sami and Lucas having a right to be concerned and voicing such concerns.......I simply think EJ and Will are right not to allow Sami to dictate their pace which was a direct response to you saying that EJ should not blackmail Will because of his relationship with Sami.
As for EJILL, love to pieces, my second favorite part of the show right now. I thoroughly enjoyed their scenes on Wednesday where Will was dictating his terms to EJ and telling him he wanted to be him....aww.....lol......
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I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation. A statement such as after the grief sex makes it out as if it happened right after, when in reality it was a whole six months after more fighting and what not. So six months down the road, Sami found herself in some trouble and EJ with no romantic intentions helped her out for her sake and that of her children. They are on the road to more now, but they are not there yet so there is still time for any trash out to happen. It has nothing to do with EJ and Will being in their own little world and those most certainly were not my words......what I said and I reiterate is that EJ and Will's relationship is not going to be dictated by Sami and what she wants. They are defining it themselves as it should be and Sami just has to deal. EJ and Sami's friendship is not defined by him doing things to please her only, like it used to be in the past and I love it!
The griefsex happening six months prior does not make any difference. The fact is that it happened. Does anyone really know what EJ intentions are and I did not say it was romantic, just saying for two people who formed such a quick friendship so immediately after hating each other, they are certainly not behaving as if they are getting along just for the kids sake. Not saying he should do everything to please Sami. I should hope not anyway but, Will is Sami and Lucas son and they rightly have concerns for Will working for the Dimeras. Obiviously Will still has a lot of growing up to do. Still don't understand why EJ has to blackmail Will especially that he is willing to work for him but, her request is reasonable and her concerns are understandable. Basically there are too many things about this story that makes no sense. EJ/Will especially no longer makes any sense.
No one is negating that the grief sex happened, the point is that it did not lead to him getting her an apartment and saving her from Kate. EJ and Sami are not just a quick friendship though,; there is a lot of history, both good and bad that this reconnection is building on therefore there is an obvious amount of tension at times, anger at times and understanding at times but they both agreed from the get go to keep it platonic and for their children. Thus far neither has acted on anything. also nothing about what I said had anything to do with Sami and Lucas having a right to be concerned and voicing such concerns.......I simply think EJ and Will are right not to allow Sami to dictate their pace which was a direct response to you saying that EJ should not blackmail Will because of his relationship with Sami. As for EJILL, love to pieces, my second favorite part of the show right now. I thoroughly enjoyed their scenes on Wednesday where Will was dictating his terms to EJ and telling him he wanted to be him....aww.....lol...... I think you are misunderstanding me. I have not even mentioned Kate once. Ok. lets agree to disagree.
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The griefsex happening six months prior does not make any difference. The fact is that it happened. Does anyone really know what EJ intentions are and I did not say it was romantic, just saying for two people who formed such a quick friendship so immediately after hating each other, they are certainly not behaving as if they are getting along just for the kids sake. Not saying he should do everything to please Sami. I should hope not anyway but, Will is Sami and Lucas son and they rightly have concerns for Will working for the Dimeras. Obiviously Will still has a lot of growing up to do. Still don't understand why EJ has to blackmail Will especially that he is willing to work for him but, her request is reasonable and her concerns are understandable. Basically there are too many things about this story that makes no sense. EJ/Will especially no longer makes any sense.
No one is negating that the grief sex happened, the point is that it did not lead to him getting her an apartment and saving her from Kate. EJ and Sami are not just a quick friendship though,; there is a lot of history, both good and bad that this reconnection is building on therefore there is an obvious amount of tension at times, anger at times and understanding at times but they both agreed from the get go to keep it platonic and for their children. Thus far neither has acted on anything. also nothing about what I said had anything to do with Sami and Lucas having a right to be concerned and voicing such concerns.......I simply think EJ and Will are right not to allow Sami to dictate their pace which was a direct response to you saying that EJ should not blackmail Will because of his relationship with Sami. As for EJILL, love to pieces, my second favorite part of the show right now. I thoroughly enjoyed their scenes on Wednesday where Will was dictating his terms to EJ and telling him he wanted to be him....aww.....lol......
I think you are misunderstanding me. I have not even mentioned Kate once. Ok. lets agree to disagree. There is no misunderstanding, the Kate part was thrown in since it goes hand in hand with getting her the apartment. It changes nothing!
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he did more than advance on her, his hands were around her neck and like Nicole repeatedly said, Daniel stopped EJ from killing her. It was his intent, he even told Lexie before he left the Dimansion. EJ and Sami have both done horrible things to each other, they are on an even platform from where I am standing AND until they are prepared to take the next step and do more than co-parent, more than what they have established now is not necessary. Getting along for the kids is where they are at now, EJ and Sami the couple however will take more. They have set it up that EJILL (who I love BTW) are a separate relationship for the most part from Sami. They deal on their own terms and both prefer no outside interference, so EJ liking/loving Sami has nothing to do with it. EJ obviously LOVES having Will near him, he reminds him of someone he adores quite a bit and if Will wants to remain at his side, why shouldn't he let him. As JS said at the emmys, EJ connects with Will in a very constructive way, and he does not have a lot of that in his life; so why would EJ just let that go. As for Will getting to blackmail Will, yep the way he found the ammo was eye rolling, however they have not had EJ rolling over and playing dead......he finally has someone who emulates him and you could see the pride in him alongside him making it clear to Will that if he goes too far he will take him down. lol......such a great push and pull and dynamic!
I watched the scene, his hands were around her neck but he did not even squeeze. It was very easy for Nicole to remove it and she did. There was no struggle going on to say that Nicole was fighting for her life. She was scared and he was drunk. He was in accusatory mode and Nicole was talking back to him. As I said, she was telling him a few home truths that he did not want to hear, he advanced again when Daniel turned up. That's how i remember it and not once throughout that scene did I think Nicole was in danger of being murdered by EJ. If EJ and Sami was just getting along for the kids sake only, and it was shown that they are only getting on for the kids sake, that I could understand but, that is not what is happening. After the griefsex, EJ buys her an appartment moves next door and is kissing her and she did not back away. There was no struggle on her part for him to let her go. Then the scenes where he got wet and had to strip, then the suposedly sexual tensions. Some more sexual tensions coming up and where are the kids in all these scenes. Nowhere to be seen. I can count on one hand the amount of times they have shown EJ with the kids since he has moved next door. That is where the problem lies, Sami willing to kiss and have sex with EJ after all the things he has done to her. As for Will, Sami is his mother. Neither Sami or Lucas should be excluded from his life just because he wants to spend time with EJ. Well the writers are not excluding her because they happened to write that she found out about EJ blackmailing Will. This made her upset and angry. They had her confronting him about it so, EJ and Will are not in their own little world with the exclusion of everybody else. The fact that Sami approached EJ and expressed her concerns and asked him to let her son go. If he cared that much, I beleive he would. Instead he guilted her into walking away from any further confrontation.
I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation. A statement such as after the grief sex makes it out as if it happened right after, when in reality it was a whole six months after more fighting and what not. So six months down the road, Sami found herself in some trouble and EJ with no romantic intentions helped her out for her sake and that of her children. They are on the road to more now, but they are not there yet so there is still time for any trash out to happen. It has nothing to do with EJ and Will being in their own little world and those most certainly were not my words......what I said and I reiterate is that EJ and Will's relationship is not going to be dictated by Sami and what she wants. They are defining it themselves as it should be and Sami just has to deal. EJ and Sami's friendship is not defined by him doing things to please her only, like it used to be in the past and I love it! How is Ej intending to kill (choke) Nicole different than Sami shooting him in the head? Sami is excused because she has "sexual tension" with EJ. Nicole is a "bitch, slut, whore" for telling EJ some truths he did not want to hear. I don't care for either pairing (gimmee EJope and Jacole :D ) but IMO Nicole isn't getting a fair assessment. Sami holds Marlena responsible for the way she acts because of her childhood, then Nicole should get a free pass too because of her father. BOTH women are fucked up.
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There IS no way to reach the castle! That's why they call it "Kafkaesque". Where are we again?
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I watched the scene, his hands were around her neck but he did not even squeeze. It was very easy for Nicole to remove it and she did. There was no struggle going on to say that Nicole was fighting for her life. She was scared and he was drunk. He was in accusatory mode and Nicole was talking back to him. As I said, she was telling him a few home truths that he did not want to hear, he advanced again when Daniel turned up. That's how i remember it and not once throughout that scene did I think Nicole was in danger of being murdered by EJ. If EJ and Sami was just getting along for the kids sake only, and it was shown that they are only getting on for the kids sake, that I could understand but, that is not what is happening. After the griefsex, EJ buys her an appartment moves next door and is kissing her and she did not back away. There was no struggle on her part for him to let her go. Then the scenes where he got wet and had to strip, then the suposedly sexual tensions. Some more sexual tensions coming up and where are the kids in all these scenes. Nowhere to be seen. I can count on one hand the amount of times they have shown EJ with the kids since he has moved next door. That is where the problem lies, Sami willing to kiss and have sex with EJ after all the things he has done to her. As for Will, Sami is his mother. Neither Sami or Lucas should be excluded from his life just because he wants to spend time with EJ. Well the writers are not excluding her because they happened to write that she found out about EJ blackmailing Will. This made her upset and angry. They had her confronting him about it so, EJ and Will are not in their own little world with the exclusion of everybody else. The fact that Sami approached EJ and expressed her concerns and asked him to let her son go. If he cared that much, I beleive he would. Instead he guilted her into walking away from any further confrontation.
I saw the scenes as well many times, even read James interview where he talked about choosing to not go full out, but at the end of the day his actions were still quite clear and Nicole herself right after said EJ tried to kill her. There really was no room for interpretation. A statement such as after the grief sex makes it out as if it happened right after, when in reality it was a whole six months after more fighting and what not. So six months down the road, Sami found herself in some trouble and EJ with no romantic intentions helped her out for her sake and that of her children. They are on the road to more now, but they are not there yet so there is still time for any trash out to happen. It has nothing to do with EJ and Will being in their own little world and those most certainly were not my words......what I said and I reiterate is that EJ and Will's relationship is not going to be dictated by Sami and what she wants. They are defining it themselves as it should be and Sami just has to deal. EJ and Sami's friendship is not defined by him doing things to please her only, like it used to be in the past and I love it!
How is Ej intending to kill (choke) Nicole different than Sami shooting him in the head? Sami is excused because she has "sexual tension" with EJ. Nicole is a "bitch, slut, whore" for telling EJ some truths he did not want to hear. I don't care for either pairing (gimmee EJope and Jacole :D ) but IMO Nicole isn't getting a fair assessment. Sami holds Marlena responsible for the way she acts because of her childhood, then Nicole should get a free pass too because of her father. BOTH women are fucked up. The issue that was being discussed had NOTHING to do with which is worse, pitting Sami vs Nicole, so I am not really seeing where the claim of an unfair assessment of Nicole is even coming from.
but since you brought it up, yeah they are both fucked up..........lol........no denying that and I personally hate when they try to show them as anything but; crying, weeping, helpless victims they most certainly are not!
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Kayla did not hook up with Shane the second Steve died and that "hookup" is never mentioned neither are the Jennifer and Peter years in fact when they came back in the early 2000s Jennifer ever marrying Peter was dropped. and has not ever been spoken of since. Those years were also for the most part were also the fake Jack and Jennifer years so IMO as a JnJ fan irrelevant to their history. On your other posts EJ is still not being honest with Sami about everything ie framing John and its only up for the PTB to decide who they want with whom and that still remains to be seen because this is still MarDar's writing.
EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John? They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now. If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum with the same results and thats been there done that.
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I think its pretty safe to say they were. EJAMI BRADISON and CAFE got the favorable or rootable writing. In a soap it is fairly obvious who the writers want and I maintain IMO that the couples I listed were who they were going with on top of things they said in interviews and joining the Facebook page for EJAMI. Now with the writers change this direction will no doubt change as well but from all the spoilers that were very pro EJAMI the dialogue btwn them and the moments given to them all made wheree they were going very clear to me. Since November it was all their story and not anyone elses because Lucas has not been seen and Rafe shifted to Carrie's orbit as well as Nicole in Dan's again all MarDar.
I do not see how given that EJAMI are written totally different from the Mar/Dar formula of EJOLE, Bradison, LUMI et al which is to jump into bed at a whimp and given that Mar/Dar said they were not allowed to write their stories, why is EJAMI suddenly the exception? Grief Sex happened and EJ and Sami were still eons away from each other, so I do not see how they could have been written for since Nov; are the tickle fest obsolete then? and what does joining EJAMI's FB have to do with anything? and how can anyone be confident that the new writers will move away from EJAMI, nothing has been said to negate that NBC are not the ones who wanted EJAMI to begin with and Tom/Sell wont be able to move away from that. Point is, it can go any which way, there is nothing set in stone, and we are all guessing at this point rather tham being able to make proclamations with any amount of confidence!
No writer that i kmow joins one fansite while ignoring others and thats just it maybe the EJAMI full blown story is in part what they werent allowed to tell because while EJAMI was always teased in the past no regime actually went there and always made EJ the villian to her relationships. Why we wont know but they didn't go there full steam ahead. Now IMO MarDar really wanted to go there but they were stopped. I mean the show has been heavily EJ and Sami centric. LUMI ' relationship was treated as an after thought and completely off screen. I don't think its just coincidental that their love scenes werent shown and the rate at which they were just thrown together spelled doom. While IMO BRADISON EJAMI and CAFE have been building for six monts and Lucas and Nicole were temporary for Sami and EJ. Again see Daniel whose romp with Nicole was also shown on screen.
if TPTB is planning to break ejami, why spend big bucks on this expensive photo shoot to promote them as a couple? that photo shoot was taken during the new regime wasn't it? why not do the photo shoot with their new chosen couple like ejole, lumi or safe? makes no sense to me. why waste time and money on a couple that is doomed?
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EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John? They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now. If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum with the same results and thats been there done that.
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I do not see how given that EJAMI are written totally different from the Mar/Dar formula of EJOLE, Bradison, LUMI et al which is to jump into bed at a whimp and given that Mar/Dar said they were not allowed to write their stories, why is EJAMI suddenly the exception? Grief Sex happened and EJ and Sami were still eons away from each other, so I do not see how they could have been written for since Nov; are the tickle fest obsolete then? and what does joining EJAMI's FB have to do with anything? and how can anyone be confident that the new writers will move away from EJAMI, nothing has been said to negate that NBC are not the ones who wanted EJAMI to begin with and Tom/Sell wont be able to move away from that. Point is, it can go any which way, there is nothing set in stone, and we are all guessing at this point rather tham being able to make proclamations with any amount of confidence!
No writer that i kmow joins one fansite while ignoring others and thats just it maybe the EJAMI full blown story is in part what they werent allowed to tell because while EJAMI was always teased in the past no regime actually went there and always made EJ the villian to her relationships. Why we wont know but they didn't go there full steam ahead. Now IMO MarDar really wanted to go there but they were stopped. I mean the show has been heavily EJ and Sami centric. LUMI ' relationship was treated as an after thought and completely off screen. I don't think its just coincidental that their love scenes werent shown and the rate at which they were just thrown together spelled doom. While IMO BRADISON EJAMI and CAFE have been building for six monts and Lucas and Nicole were temporary for Sami and EJ. Again see Daniel whose romp with Nicole was also shown on screen.
if TPTB is planning to break ejami, why spend big bucks on this expensive photo shoot to promote them as a couple? that photo shoot was taken during the new regime wasn't it? why not do the photo shoot with their new chosen couple like ejole, lumi or safe? makes no sense to me. why waste time and money on a couple that is doomed? I have no idea what their plans are. But a photo shoot is not that big of a deal. They did a photo shoot on J&J right before they backburned them. They've done several photo shoots only to fire the actors right afterward. There probably is something coming up storyline wise, but the money spent on it has never meant anything before and there's no reason to think it does now. That photo shoot was no different than every other photo shoot this show has done for the last 47 years. Some end up having relevance and some don't. Also, while the shoot was done during the new regime, they'd only been in place for about an hour and a half, lol. There's no way to know if they had anything to do with it or not. IDK if the writers have any say in that, but considering when it happened, if the writers do have anything to do with it, it could have been either team. The EPs haven't changed, though, and I'd think that would have been a decision to come from them.
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- Jul 7 2012, 05:09 PM
I am hoping that JS's favorite scenes ever which are with AS around the time of the Olympic Cliffhanger is off EJAMI trashing it out.
The fight before grief sex was soooooo good; I can only imagine with them being the way they are now, it will be even better! urrrgghh,.. how am I going to survive three weeks (or is it two weeks) of no DAYS.
No EJ and No Sami and No William, etc. :-/
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That's pretty funny. Trashing it out. Yeah, that's Skanki, all right. Trash.
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The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum with the same results and thats been there done that.
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No writer that i kmow joins one fansite while ignoring others and thats just it maybe the EJAMI full blown story is in part what they werent allowed to tell because while EJAMI was always teased in the past no regime actually went there and always made EJ the villian to her relationships. Why we wont know but they didn't go there full steam ahead. Now IMO MarDar really wanted to go there but they were stopped. I mean the show has been heavily EJ and Sami centric. LUMI ' relationship was treated as an after thought and completely off screen. I don't think its just coincidental that their love scenes werent shown and the rate at which they were just thrown together spelled doom. While IMO BRADISON EJAMI and CAFE have been building for six monts and Lucas and Nicole were temporary for Sami and EJ. Again see Daniel whose romp with Nicole was also shown on screen.
if TPTB is planning to break ejami, why spend big bucks on this expensive photo shoot to promote them as a couple? that photo shoot was taken during the new regime wasn't it? why not do the photo shoot with their new chosen couple like ejole, lumi or safe? makes no sense to me. why waste time and money on a couple that is doomed?
I have no idea what their plans are. But a photo shoot is not that big of a deal. They did a photo shoot on J&J right before they backburned them. They've done several photo shoots only to fire the actors right afterward. There probably is something coming up storyline wise, but the money spent on it has never meant anything before and there's no reason to think it does now. That photo shoot was no different than every other photo shoot this show has done for the last 47 years. Some end up having relevance and some don't. Also, while the shoot was done during the new regime, they'd only been in place for about an hour and a half, lol. There's no way to know if they had anything to do with it or not. IDK if the writers have any say in that, but considering when it happened, if the writers do have anything to do with it, it could have been either team. The EPs haven't changed, though, and I'd think that would have been a decision to come from them. I think NBC and Sony are at least going to use those photos to promote the show.
Whether there's an actual EJami centric story ahead is debatable, but I expect to see the possibility of one teased.....and teased.....and teased.
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I wish TPTB would just make it clear they're going with Ejami and get on with it. So tired of being fucked with.
However, except for the frustration of the EJami "will they or won't they," I'm really enjoying the show right now.
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if TPTB is planning to break ejami, why spend big bucks on this expensive photo shoot to promote them as a couple? that photo shoot was taken during the new regime wasn't it? why not do the photo shoot with their new chosen couple like ejole, lumi or safe? makes no sense to me. why waste time and money on a couple that is doomed?
I have no idea what their plans are. But a photo shoot is not that big of a deal. They did a photo shoot on J&J right before they backburned them. They've done several photo shoots only to fire the actors right afterward. There probably is something coming up storyline wise, but the money spent on it has never meant anything before and there's no reason to think it does now. That photo shoot was no different than every other photo shoot this show has done for the last 47 years. Some end up having relevance and some don't. Also, while the shoot was done during the new regime, they'd only been in place for about an hour and a half, lol. There's no way to know if they had anything to do with it or not. IDK if the writers have any say in that, but considering when it happened, if the writers do have anything to do with it, it could have been either team. The EPs haven't changed, though, and I'd think that would have been a decision to come from them.
I think NBC and Sony are at least going to use those photos to promote the show. Whether there's an actual EJami centric story ahead is debatable, but I expect to see the possibility of one teased.....and teased.....and teased. As is always the case. But as I have said no matter what AZ JS GG and AS are likely to all still be connected in story no matter who they go with which I doubt will be definitive as it never is especially with Sami and to a lesser extent Nicole.
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EJ as not told Sami about John, true, but as of right now, why should he tell her about John? They are not in a relationship, he has made no promises to her and Sami is very well aware that he is still his ole Dimera loving self right now. If ever the occasion arises where this truth is being asked of him and he with hold it from her, then it is an issue.
The whole point is if a relationship was ever to work btwn them putting aside their history for a moment he would need to be honest with at least her which he has never been. In fact there is always a lie lingering in the background that she later dumps him because of. MarDar were clearly building to EJAMI and were likely not going to have her care but every other regime wrote it that he lies to her about something plays her for a fool she gets mad and dumps him. Until the cycle starts again and again ad naseaum with the same results and thats been there done that.
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I do not see how given that EJAMI are written totally different from the Mar/Dar formula of EJOLE, Bradison, LUMI et al which is to jump into bed at a whimp and given that Mar/Dar said they were not allowed to write their stories, why is EJAMI suddenly the exception? Grief Sex happened and EJ and Sami were still eons away from each other, so I do not see how they could have been written for since Nov; are the tickle fest obsolete then? and what does joining EJAMI's FB have to do with anything? and how can anyone be confident that the new writers will move away from EJAMI, nothing has been said to negate that NBC are not the ones who wanted EJAMI to begin with and Tom/Sell wont be able to move away from that. Point is, it can go any which way, there is nothing set in stone, and we are all guessing at this point rather tham being able to make proclamations with any amount of confidence!
No writer that i kmow joins one fansite while ignoring others and thats just it maybe the EJAMI full blown story is in part what they werent allowed to tell because while EJAMI was always teased in the past no regime actually went there and always made EJ the villian to her relationships. Why we wont know but they didn't go there full steam ahead. Now IMO MarDar really wanted to go there but they were stopped. I mean the show has been heavily EJ and Sami centric. LUMI ' relationship was treated as an after thought and completely off screen. I don't think its just coincidental that their love scenes werent shown and the rate at which they were just thrown together spelled doom. While IMO BRADISON EJAMI and CAFE have been building for six monts and Lucas and Nicole were temporary for Sami and EJ. Again see Daniel whose romp with Nicole was also shown on screen.
if TPTB is planning to break ejami, why spend big bucks on this expensive photo shoot to promote them as a couple? that photo shoot was taken during the new regime wasn't it? why not do the photo shoot with their new chosen couple like ejole, lumi or safe? makes no sense to me. why waste time and money on a couple that is doomed? Photo shoots don't mean anything SL wise. I think they just chose them to promote DAYS and it makes sense because AS has BL also on NBC and JS is one of the leads on DAYS. Now I am not saying that they wont be connected in story as I already said because the PTB love to focus on the foursome of AS GG AZ and JS. No matter the couplings they ultimately go with which IMO is no where near being decided likely until DAYS gets cancelled. Its all a ploy by NBC to string us all along but as I have also said we will see soon enough what TomSell do and if those photos mean anything to story when IMO it could just be publicity for DAYS.
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if TPTB is planning to break ejami, why spend big bucks on this expensive photo shoot to promote them as a couple? that photo shoot was taken during the new regime wasn't it? why not do the photo shoot with their new chosen couple like ejole, lumi or safe? makes no sense to me. why waste time and money on a couple that is doomed?
I have no idea what their plans are. But a photo shoot is not that big of a deal. They did a photo shoot on J&J right before they backburned them. They've done several photo shoots only to fire the actors right afterward. There probably is something coming up storyline wise, but the money spent on it has never meant anything before and there's no reason to think it does now. That photo shoot was no different than every other photo shoot this show has done for the last 47 years. Some end up having relevance and some don't. Also, while the shoot was done during the new regime, they'd only been in place for about an hour and a half, lol. There's no way to know if they had anything to do with it or not. IDK if the writers have any say in that, but considering when it happened, if the writers do have anything to do with it, it could have been either team. The EPs haven't changed, though, and I'd think that would have been a decision to come from them.
I think NBC and Sony are at least going to use those photos to promote the show. Whether there's an actual EJami centric story ahead is debatable, but I expect to see the possibility of one teased.....and teased.....and teased. NBC alread started using it; it was on their homepage......
either way, the pics were hott, and much appreciated by EJAMIs! :cheer: :wub:
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That's pretty funny. Trashing it out. Yeah, that's Skanki, all right. Trash. hey at least the men in her life don't call her that, can't say the same about someone else. :lol:
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Photo shoots don't mean anything SL wise. I think they just chose them to promote DAYS and it makes sense because AS has BL also on NBC and JS is one of the leads on DAYS. Now I am not saying that they wont be connected in story as I already said because the PTB love to focus on the foursome of AS GG AZ and JS. No matter the couplings they ultimately go with which IMO is no where near being decided likely until DAYS gets cancelled. Its all a ploy by NBC to string us all along but as I have also said we will see soon enough what TomSell do and if those photos mean anything to story when IMO it could just be publicity for DAYS. sometimes they do and sometimes they do not. We don't know def. about these but in the past they have been indicative of the pairings that TPTB are currently focused on. for eg. the pics in the park were AS/GG and AZ/JS which was what was on our screens for a while; so the same can be argued with these AS/JS and without the other two even being included in some form or fashion the argument can be made even further.
yeah we will know soon enough and fongers crossed it does.
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