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Spoilers for the week of July 9th; *UPDATED 7/3*
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 12:09 PM (65,757 Views)
talbab1994
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Is this the week before the Olympics?
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SocRMum1
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Much prefers sweevil, snarky EJ over Father Figure Fucktard Eejiot.

Alligato
Jun 26 2012, 07:37 PM
SocRMum1
Jun 26 2012, 05:51 PM
Alligato
Jun 26 2012, 04:31 PM
There is no way that EJ would ever take Sami if he could have Nicole...
History not being an indicator, of course.

Nicole's whole schtick (and the reason she's being such a pissy bitch now) is because she's always felt like 2nd choice for EJ when it comes to Sami. She's like Jan Brady to Marsha. "Sami! Sami! Sami!"
History doesn't seem to mean shit anymore....case in point, Sami shot EJ IN THE HEAD.

From what we have seen in the past few weeks, EJ is in love with Nicole. And Nicole fell in love with EJ...until he fucked her over again. Like she said, EJ has done worse to her than fuck Sami...it's not about Sami until the writers need to throw a bone.

For some fucked up and totally stupid reason, the writers want to toy with the nauseating relationship of EJ and the Swine, so they have to get Nicole out of there so it can work. Introduce the sloppy and unexpected Dicole.

And as soon as #TeamAS gets bored by all the flattery, Sami will get to kick EJ in the balls again and humiliate him before SuperRafe saves the day. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. But I guess as long as people eat it up...
Hmmm...so if we can't count history then it's fair to assume that we can't count ANY of it, right?

So that leaves us with the here and now...and as I see it if EJ were so inclined to make a choice between Nicole or Sami it wouldn't be a tough call. At the moment, Nicole is raking him over the coals every chance she gets - screwing him out of having any involvement with the impending birth of their baby, insisting it's someone else's kid, going to elaborate lengths to deceive him - such as screwing the good doctor that helped her alter the paternity test and now playing on EJ's emotions and concern for her (and using their baby to do it) so she can illegally search his apartment in the hope of finding evidence to send him to jail - and out of their kid's life (and that of his other kids) permanently. And all because she thinks he 'fucked her over' when he fucked Sami - after being forced to sign divorce papers.

Sami, on the other hand, has been stepping up to offer support and compassion to him repeatedly of late. She was the first person he told about Lexie's diagnosis, she offered comfort both immediately after Stefano was killed and by bringing the kids to the house for the visitation. Even when they argue they end up laughing about it. There is no real animosity between them at the moment - certainly not on the level he's dealing with Nicole. And EJ's been shown to be affected by his feelings for Sami...in his conversation with Will, gazing at the photo of her and the kids, and apparently in the upcoming scenes regarding the 'tension' filled fight.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

lysie
Jun 26 2012, 06:17 PM
This spoiler is everything that is wrong with the writing on this show. And it has nothing to do with the characters or the pairing.
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Sami and E.J. have an argument that is fraught with sexual tension

They wrote the sexual tension in. They didn't let it happen organically. This is EXACTLY what they did with Carrie and Rafe and even before that it's what they did with Daniel and Jennifer. The actors are capable of having chemistry, but instead of letting them just do it, they're going to force it.

The John thing sounds interesting, but we haven't heard much about him working so I doubt it will go anywhere.

I could really get on board with EJ/Kate getting married. Doubtful, but I could totally go with that.
Hey, maybe this will play out like the electrifying moment or the near kiss.
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They wrote the sexual tension in. They didn't let it happen organically. This is EXACTLY what they did with Carrie and Rafe and even


Lucas needs to observe something hence the writing it in. It's written in for Lucas to react too.
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brazen
Jun 26 2012, 09:57 PM
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They wrote the sexual tension in. They didn't let it happen organically. This is EXACTLY what they did with Carrie and Rafe and even


Lucas needs to observe something hence the writing it in. It's written in for Lucas to react too.
Which is still forced.
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Jun 26 2012, 12:18 PM
Funny how Dr. Fuckmypatients is so 'into' his current patient/victim, he hasn't noticed that his daughter has gone missing!
Daniel and Nicole swept up in passion? I can't fucking believe TPTB are dishing out this shit.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DR. DANIEL JONAS ON SCREEN SEXING IT UP WITH ANYONE!
I just think it stupid that no one in Salem is missing Melanie. Does Daniel even know that she is gone yet? I might have skipped over that if he did learn about it. ;) But I would think that eventually someone would call Carly to get in touch with Melanie since she obviously isn't answering her phone and they would find out that she did not go visit her mother. I guess Dr. Dan is too busy sexing it up though to care about why his daughter suddenly took off without telling him.

On another note...spoilers sound pretty boring but then once I came to the John taking over Dimera Enterprises my interest was peaked. Funny that it seems most of us are on the same page there.
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So the entire run of John being back in town they ignored his connection to Stefano but NOW they want to make it a deal? Whatevs.
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darraholic
Jun 26 2012, 12:26 PM
Dreamer
Jun 26 2012, 12:23 PM
John going after Dimera Enterprises--- I like this spoiler--- could lead to some good EJ-John scenes.
What if Steffy planned to leave Dimera Enterprises to Kristen and she comes back to take over? Steffy had to leave it to someone, especially if he took EJ out of his will.
I def think this will have something to do with Kristen's return.
I really hope this is what might happen.
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Aliaron
Jun 26 2012, 06:20 PM
I could care less if Lucas plants shit on Ej. How many times have EJ done the same to innocent people on the show?

Hell, it should be Lucas, Sami and Will trying to bring down the maggot. It makes no sense that Sami doesn't care that he's blackmailing Will and Will puts all the blame for his screwed up family on Sami. Bring this family together to do what they do best-- fuck someone over.

Lucas should not be the only one looking to protect his family. When was the last time this show had a family working together?
OMG! That is one of the most awesomely horrific photos of JS ever in you banner! Serious kudos! ;o)
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James usually says the storylines he is featured in are BRILLIANT, Exciting...etc. BUT this time even HE said in an interview that the show is totally unwatchable now. Boy, he wasn't kidding. Those spoilers are so horrible, that even the actor forced to act in the scenes are calling it unwatchable...THAT IS BAD!! I was told that even JS and AS didn't understand the scenes with Sami and EJ being BFFs--so how could they NOT be shaking their heads in disbelief when they read where Sami knows this man is blackmailing her son, but she still is hanging around him??? Who does that???

I am so glad the seriously deranged MARDAR team is long gone. If Gary T can save this mess, he will be a hero of sorts.
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SocRMum1
Jun 26 2012, 09:24 PM
Alligato
Jun 26 2012, 07:37 PM
SocRMum1
Jun 26 2012, 05:51 PM
Alligato
Jun 26 2012, 04:31 PM
There is no way that EJ would ever take Sami if he could have Nicole...
History not being an indicator, of course.

Nicole's whole schtick (and the reason she's being such a pissy bitch now) is because she's always felt like 2nd choice for EJ when it comes to Sami. She's like Jan Brady to Marsha. "Sami! Sami! Sami!"
History doesn't seem to mean shit anymore....case in point, Sami shot EJ IN THE HEAD.

From what we have seen in the past few weeks, EJ is in love with Nicole. And Nicole fell in love with EJ...until he fucked her over again. Like she said, EJ has done worse to her than fuck Sami...it's not about Sami until the writers need to throw a bone.

For some fucked up and totally stupid reason, the writers want to toy with the nauseating relationship of EJ and the Swine, so they have to get Nicole out of there so it can work. Introduce the sloppy and unexpected Dicole.

And as soon as #TeamAS gets bored by all the flattery, Sami will get to kick EJ in the balls again and humiliate him before SuperRafe saves the day. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. But I guess as long as people eat it up...
Hmmm...so if we can't count history then it's fair to assume that we can't count ANY of it, right?

So that leaves us with the here and now...and as I see it if EJ were so inclined to make a choice between Nicole or Sami it wouldn't be a tough call. At the moment, Nicole is raking him over the coals every chance she gets - screwing him out of having any involvement with the impending birth of their baby, insisting it's someone else's kid, going to elaborate lengths to deceive him - such as screwing the good doctor that helped her alter the paternity test and now playing on EJ's emotions and concern for her (and using their baby to do it) so she can illegally search his apartment in the hope of finding evidence to send him to jail - and out of their kid's life (and that of his other kids) permanently. And all because she thinks he 'fucked her over' when he fucked Sami - after being forced to sign divorce papers.

Sami, on the other hand, has been stepping up to offer support and compassion to him repeatedly of late. She was the first person he told about Lexie's diagnosis, she offered comfort both immediately after Stefano was killed and by bringing the kids to the house for the visitation. Even when they argue they end up laughing about it. There is no real animosity between them at the moment - certainly not on the level he's dealing with Nicole. And EJ's been shown to be affected by his feelings for Sami...in his conversation with Will, gazing at the photo of her and the kids, and apparently in the upcoming scenes regarding the 'tension' filled fight.
On the second part of the post, so much of that is exactly why, after several weeks of contrived Ejami scenes and sudden BFF-ery, I became convinced MarDar or whomever were writing for Ejami. And that can mean anything -- writing for Ejami to actually happen, writing for Ejami to be heavily, heavily suggested, writing for Ejami so that other relationships would be affected by the oppressive Ejaminess in the air, etc.

My goodness has EJ had a lot of reasons to need comforting. Comforting over the news of Lexie's illness; comforting over not being Stefano's son; comforting over Stefano's death; comforting over Lexie's death; etc. Now, don't get me wrong - I am not blind that these storylines are meaningful for more than how they may prop Ejami. Lexie was loved by many people - her death will likely resonate for long awhile, and I am not heartless to the loss suffered by Theo, Abe, Celeste, Lexie's friends, etc. And I don't doubt EJ's loss is genuine too - it does very little to pull at my heart-strings, but I don't doubt he loved and is grieving Lexie. But it iiiiiiiiiiisssssssss convenient for Sami to always be there. Gives her a chance to see EJ in a different light, to go awwwwwwww, see him and the kids together, etc. There is no real animosity at the moment when there should be - where there SHOULD BE, at least a little more than the "arguments" I have seen so far. Sami goes to confront EJ about Will. Don't you think he has more than just this to worry about, says Sami. EJ says, Smanther, Will is not the only one going through shit right now, why don't you think about someone other than yourself, think about what I might be going through. I nearly vomited right there on the spot. First, way to flip the conversation back to you, EJ. Second, Sami is not unaware of what EJ is going though, but she was there to talk about Will, b/c really why should she care about EJ's sadness or whatever more than her son's safety? But, no, she is just shown there saying, I am sorry, I know you are going through so much right now, etc. etc. Awwwww. And all of EJ's gazing and well-timed flustered-ness....it seems to be a liittttllllle much, in my opinion. But that is likely also because I do not like them, so it seems pretttyyy contrived and barf-worthy to me. One who is a fan may just go crazy for such scenes, love them, think they are perfectly natural and appropriate and wonderful.

In any event, that "contrived" line can be used about any part of this show, and especially for parts individual viewers do not like. It's just been clear to me for awhile now where all this Ejami bonding or whatever has been going, and this week's spoilers are just added confirmation. For Sami and EJ to go from hating each other over how the deadbabysex destroyed their marriages,to months of sudden BFF moments that, very obviously to me, have been building towards something, does seem forced and with a clear design in mind.

All I know is that the Ejami spoilers make me sad. I really, really, really hate them together, and that will never change, and no amount of chemistry, no matter how forbidden and sexy it might seem to some, will change that for me. I am fine with Sami and EJ forgiving each other for their past misdeeds, I am fine with Sami forgiving EJ for raping her twice (once by proxy); I am fine with EJ forgiving Sami for shooting him in the head, etc. Ah, those lovable scamps!!!! :sarcasm: But I will never accept them as a thing, as a couple....I will never accept what any writer is trying to sell me as passing between them as love. It's just not my cup of tea, those are just my opinions, I have my reasons for liking and defending one couple over another. After all the debates are done, after the lists of items like, "this crime is worse" and "NO, THIS crime is worse," are tallied and compared, at the end of the day my opinion will not change. They will never work for me, and I will not watch them.

Add to that the fact that Lucas is made to seem like the third wheel AGAIN, or that he is the only one seen to be fighting to protect his family, or that this family which I love so much is not working together against a common enemy, but is now maybe split because of said person (ahem, EJ)....I am done. I love dysfunction and turmoil as much as the next person. But as another poster said, where are the families working together?? Seems like to keep something like that interesting would be more challenging to write, and thus the payoff and experience of watching would be so much more satisfying.

A part of me wants it to be Lucas to set up EJ - would be retribution for a lot - but a greater part doesn't. It might ultimately give Sami reason to turn away from him, and of course that is the last thing I want. It might be Ian too, or someone working for the SPD. And for the spoiler immediately preceding the setting-up spoiler to be about Lucas protecting his family - the juxtaposition there seems a little too obvious.....But who knows.

This is too exhausting. Let this kind of writing continue, but I don't have to support it. I have been down this road before, I have seen this same storyline over and over again. John's spoiler is interesting. But pleeeease spare me the rest.
Edited by elci525, Jun 27 2012, 08:45 PM.
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LucasHortonFan
Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

Ejami are only around for bone throwing purposes and I believe this is still Mar Dars shit. Not going to be concerned at all until Tom sell's stories start coming on. I will give the stories a chance but if Ej and Sami are featured I will not watch that shit. Its gross and disturbing and so forced. Its clearly there to keep people watching. I hate to tell tptb, more sets will be turned off then turned on with Ej and Sami bc I believe as is my right that there are more haters then there are lovers. Thank God for that.
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

OH I will watch the John stuff though, that does look good. Finally, another of my favs getting some well deserved air time. Move over Ej, John is way hotter and better to look at!
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Are they going back to John being a Dimera? Since it has never been changed, it makes sense for John to do this. He tried once and since EJ took all his Basic Black money ....payback is in order. This story has potential compared to all the other ghastly ones for that week.
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Please write 4 Bryan Dattilo, Give him a love interest.

all I can say is if Ej and Sami have nasty angry sex or any other kind of sex I will need a triple size barf bag. Oh these two are but disgusting. I will be skipping the day of the Ej and Sami argument. No thanks!
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LucasHortonFan
Jun 27 2012, 07:49 AM
all I can say is if Ej and Sami have nasty angry sex or any other kind of sex I will need a triple size barf bag. Oh these two are but disgusting. I will be skipping the day of the Ej and Sami argument. No thanks!
EJ AND Sami = BARF ALERT!
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It seems pretty clear ro me that MerDe were going for EJ and Sami. They must have believed all the buzz over the pigsex meant positive! ratings! Luckily, they have sent MerDe down the tubes where they belong.
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Jun 27 2012, 07:49 AM
all I can say is if Ej and Sami have nasty angry sex or any other kind of sex I will need a triple size barf bag. Oh these two are but disgusting. I will be skipping the day of the Ej and Sami argument. No thanks!
If Will sees EJami sex this time - and given how much he hangs around EJ that's a distinct possibility - I'd like him to not run away devastated but just make gag noises and drive heaves outside the door. :lol:
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

supercool74
Jun 26 2012, 10:53 PM
Dreamer
Jun 26 2012, 12:18 PM
Funny how Dr. Fuckmypatients is so 'into' his current patient/victim, he hasn't noticed that his daughter has gone missing!
Daniel and Nicole swept up in passion? I can't fucking believe TPTB are dishing out this shit.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DR. DANIEL JONAS ON SCREEN SEXING IT UP WITH ANYONE!
I just think it stupid that no one in Salem is missing Melanie. Does Daniel even know that she is gone yet? I might have skipped over that if he did learn about it. ;) But I would think that eventually someone would call Carly to get in touch with Melanie since she obviously isn't answering her phone and they would find out that she did not go visit her mother. I guess Dr. Dan is too busy sexing it up though to care about why his daughter suddenly took off without telling him.

On another note...spoilers sound pretty boring but then once I came to the John taking over Dimera Enterprises my interest was peaked. Funny that it seems most of us are on the same page there.
Dr. Dan is too worried fucking NIcole to worry about his precious Pippi
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I don't think the Melanie thing will be a big deal for quite some time. Plenty of people stay in contact with texting and email. It's not 1992. Maggie/Daniel/Abby could think she's very busy and doesn't have time to have a phone conversation.
Edited by six, Jun 27 2012, 08:47 AM.
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