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Nelson Branco Soap Uncensored: Is Eileen Davidson back?
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 02:29 PM (30,986 Views)
Kevc1980
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Awesome news. There is just so much amazing storyline potential with Kristen and Susan leaving. It's give John and Marlena a frontburner story. Plus we get to finally see EJ with his mother and fake mother...
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lysie
Jun 26 2012, 06:36 PM
The BTS stuff makes so much sense. First of all, it confirms that there's a pretty big divide between what NBC wants and what Sony wants. Sony has always seemed a lot more supportive of vets. For me, I think it's a good sign that they seem to have been the one to make this call, and it actually makes me a little hopeful. I have no interest in what NBC wants, but me and Sony could watch some Days of Our Lives together.
Sony don't seem to interfere with the show as much as NBC, at least not that we know of, but when they do step in it seems like it's usually good. Eileen now and if I remember correctly they were the ones that brought over Ed Scott, Noel Maxam and Marnie Saitta from Y&R in 2007.

But would NBC and CBS really allow Eileen to work on both shows? Were everyone (NBC, CBS, Sony, Corday and Eileen) in agreement except the Y&R bosses?
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Sindacco
Jun 26 2012, 06:49 PM
lysie
Jun 26 2012, 06:36 PM
The BTS stuff makes so much sense. First of all, it confirms that there's a pretty big divide between what NBC wants and what Sony wants. Sony has always seemed a lot more supportive of vets. For me, I think it's a good sign that they seem to have been the one to make this call, and it actually makes me a little hopeful. I have no interest in what NBC wants, but me and Sony could watch some Days of Our Lives together.
Sony don't seem to interfere with the show as much as NBC, at least not that we know of, but when they do step in it seems like it's usually good. Eileen now and if I remember correctly they were the ones that brought over Ed Scott, Noel Maxam and Marnie Saitta from Y&R in 2007.

But would NBC and CBS really allow Eileen to work on both shows? Were everyone (NBC, CBS, Sony, Corday and Eileen) in agreement except the Y&R bosses?
I really wish they would interfere. Sony and I seem to have similar opinions.
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Mitchapalooza
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^ My face watching DAYS

Sindacco
Jun 26 2012, 06:49 PM
lysie
Jun 26 2012, 06:36 PM
The BTS stuff makes so much sense. First of all, it confirms that there's a pretty big divide between what NBC wants and what Sony wants. Sony has always seemed a lot more supportive of vets. For me, I think it's a good sign that they seem to have been the one to make this call, and it actually makes me a little hopeful. I have no interest in what NBC wants, but me and Sony could watch some Days of Our Lives together.
Sony don't seem to interfere with the show as much as NBC, at least not that we know of, but when they do step in it seems like it's usually good. Eileen now and if I remember correctly they were the ones that brought over Ed Scott, Noel Maxam and Marnie Saitta from Y&R in 2007.

But would NBC and CBS really allow Eileen to work on both shows? Were everyone (NBC, CBS, Sony, Corday and Eileen) in agreement except the Y&R bosses?
From the sounds of it, the deal fell through because of Y&R/CBS.

Even though the article does not directly say so, the way it is worded makes me think that DAYS/NBC were willing to share ED and Davidson herself was willing to do both shows.
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Mitchapalooza
Jun 26 2012, 06:39 PM
I doubt ED coming to DAYS had anything to do with not hiring back CC or MA or PR.

DAYS offloaded some money with SB, IB, MB, PM and RJ...ED could not have costed ALL of that, plus the amt of CC/MA/PR...sorry no way in hell am I buying dat bullshit.
I don't think so either. There are at least 10 other actors Days could've fired if they wanted to free up money for ED. Carrie, Austin, Jack, etc. were written out for creative reasons, I think.
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And who knows if the fired actors would've taken pay cuts, I doubt they even asked (besides PR possibly).
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"I like to be on top, Darling." - John Ross/Pamela

im sorry for the actors who were fired but im so excited that eileen is coming back!!!!!

the only GOOD NEWS that DAYS finally got after months of pure shit!
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DiMera87
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This is amazing news and I'm dying for a real confirmation of this. As for as the BTS part of this all I can say is wow. I can understand CBS saying no, but not the writers or anyone associated with Y&R. The Y&R people shouldn't really care, IMO. They don't write for Ashley and she's basically recurring without being recurring. They moved her lover into another woman's orbit and its not even a triangle, she's just the odd person out. Ashley Abbott is a HUGE character is the scheme of Y&R and the history of the show, but right now she's pointless. Y&R is going to outlast DAYS, lets just face it. So I don't see why they would mind using Ashley for just big events and letting DAYS have Eileen for the rest of the time.

The fact that the shows were trying to work this out as a sharing of Eileen makes me a little nervous that DAYS doesn't want to use her all of the time. I don't want this to be a short stint or a stint where we only see her once a week or less. If they were willing to share then I'm worried they might not have serious plans for the character. Y&R airs 12:30-1:30 in my market and DAYS airs 1-2 so I can totally understand CBS saying no chance to that. They know that Eileen was a huge part of the last time DAYS actually put up huge numbers and they're probably not happy with that. But I would say Y&R has the #1 rated soap on lock down until soaps no longer exist. They're just being greedy, IMO.

Those my negative thoughts. The positives far outweigh the negative if this all ends up being true because Eileen Davidson will be back on DAYS and that's all I really care about.
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I also wanted to state that I don't think Sony really likes vets. This is strictly a business decision. Eileen Davidson is making big bucks and doing nothing on Y&R when she could at least be a shot in the arm and drive story on DAYS AND most likely at a pay cut because Y&R contracts are huge compared to DAYS'. Sony are the reasons that Eric Braeden and Melody Thomas Scott always go through long drawn out contract negotiations that end up with their characters being backburnered for months. Y&R fans rage against Sony every other year, it seems. Although in this case I'm on Sony's team 100%, they aren't doing it because they like vets, they're doing it because Eileen Davidson was wasting away when there's a chance for her to matter on DAYS
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PhoenixRising05
Jun 26 2012, 06:31 PM

As for the Gay-less Days stuff, if that happens, I think that will tie in with Chandler leaving. We've seen Days do that before. The minute a young actor or actress makes his or her intentions known about leaving, they get backburnered. It happened to Darin Brooks, Rachel Melvin, Shelley Hennig, and Molly Burnett. If Chandler has told people he will be leaving, I think the show will backburner him and, as a result, Sonny as well. I don't think it has anything to do with the show wanting to get rid of the gay story. Tomlin first pitched the story, afterall. Chandler even mentioned how he knew they were going to make Will gay well before MarDar were hired and Higley and Tomlin were fired. The show has gotten so much praise and attention for it that there is no way they would get rid of it. Maybe not feature it as much? Perhaps. However, backburnering the characters, to me, will have more to do with Chandler leaving than anything else.


I agree with this, but, IMO, that is absolutely stupid in this particular situation. As of right now, this show could end in Sept 2013. If that's the case then the remaining time on Chandler's contract is longer than the show's actual life expectancy. If they want the show make it to 2014 it would be idiotic to backburner one of the only storylines that is garnering them any kind of good will regardless of Chandler's future intentions.

This is what OLTL did when they got rid of Kish and the show's cancellation was announced the week of the one year anniversary of Kish's final episodes (I would like to think that it was karma, but, tbh, I think the cancellation was Frons' goal when that debacle went down. TIIC wanted all of their soaps gone and they thought they could do it once The Spew finally went up in the ratings. I think they were completely blindsided with how monumentally The Revulsion tanked.)

Anyway, they need to expand on what is "working", I use quotation marks because I know the gay storyline is FAR from perfect re: the disappearance of Sonny for most of the story, rather than backtrack.
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Sindacco is right. Sony usually brings good changes. I think they want to make sure they still have influence on the show and that NBC doesn't have total control. Corday probably feels the same too. All 3 parties involved want to ensure they still have their imprint on the show so that is where the divide is. I think things are starting to work themselves out since it seems decisions have been made and things are settling.
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Jun 26 2012, 07:12 PM
I also wanted to state that I don't think Sony really likes vets. This is strictly a business decision. Eileen Davidson is making big bucks and doing nothing on Y&R when she could at least be a shot in the arm and drive story on DAYS AND most likely at a pay cut because Y&R contracts are huge compared to DAYS'. Sony are the reasons that Eric Braeden and Melody Thomas Scott always go through long drawn out contract negotiations that end up with their characters being backburnered for months. Y&R fans rage against Sony every other year, it seems. Although in this case I'm on Sony's team 100%, they aren't doing it because they like vets, they're doing it because Eileen Davidson was wasting away when there's a chance for her to matter on DAYS
They always use vets for their promotional stuff. I have no idea what they think of Y&R's vets, and I don't care, but they have always seemed to like Days' vets. The book tour should be pretty good evidence of that.
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I can't imagine Kristen's return giving John and Marlena a frontburner storyline. We said the same thing about Stefano returning in 2007 and we saw what happened there. Kristen's return will probably be a lot about EJ, more than anything else.
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DrewHamilton
Jun 26 2012, 07:20 PM
I can't imagine Kristen's return giving John and Marlena a frontburner storyline. We said the same thing about Stefano returning in 2007 and we saw what happened there. Kristen's return will probably be a lot about EJ, more than anything else.
I think it will involve John and Marlena a lot, too, but yeah..this will also contribute to the continuing Days of EJ's WishyWashy Life.
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Kenny
Jun 26 2012, 06:52 PM
Mitchapalooza
Jun 26 2012, 06:39 PM
I doubt ED coming to DAYS had anything to do with not hiring back CC or MA or PR.

DAYS offloaded some money with SB, IB, MB, PM and RJ...ED could not have costed ALL of that, plus the amt of CC/MA/PR...sorry no way in hell am I buying dat bullshit.
I don't think so either. There are at least 10 other actors Days could've fired if they wanted to free up money for ED. Carrie, Austin, Jack, etc. were written out for creative reasons, I think.
I think in some cases it was creative (SB, IB, maybe even PM) but I'm not sure about the others. I know most would say it's easier to just get rid of characters like Roman, Caroline, Chad, Chad, Gabi, etc but they are cheap and it's easier to get rid of one paycheck that can easily allow for maybe 2 cheaper contracts than to get rid of 3-4 just for one expensive contract. Not a precise example but it illustrates my point.

I have a feeling Y&R's involvement in this may be why they are so upset about Days winning writing. The negativity from them did seem a bit strange given there has never been much malice between the shows before.
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Jamey Giddens tweeted to me last week that Peter Reckell's exit was on Sony and not Corday so I'm still bitter about that. He said Sony has a company wide problem with treating vets like shit. I assume that means DAYS too. Using vets to promote a book about the history of the show only makes sense.
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stormymac
Jun 26 2012, 07:17 PM
PhoenixRising05
Jun 26 2012, 06:31 PM

As for the Gay-less Days stuff, if that happens, I think that will tie in with Chandler leaving. We've seen Days do that before. The minute a young actor or actress makes his or her intentions known about leaving, they get backburnered. It happened to Darin Brooks, Rachel Melvin, Shelley Hennig, and Molly Burnett. If Chandler has told people he will be leaving, I think the show will backburner him and, as a result, Sonny as well. I don't think it has anything to do with the show wanting to get rid of the gay story. Tomlin first pitched the story, afterall. Chandler even mentioned how he knew they were going to make Will gay well before MarDar were hired and Higley and Tomlin were fired. The show has gotten so much praise and attention for it that there is no way they would get rid of it. Maybe not feature it as much? Perhaps. However, backburnering the characters, to me, will have more to do with Chandler leaving than anything else.


I agree with this, but, IMO, that is absolutely stupid in this particular situation. As of right now, this show could end in Sept 2013. If that's the case then the remaining time on Chandler's contract is longer than the show's actual life expectancy. If they want the show make it to 2014 it would be idiotic to backburner one of the only storylines that is garnering them any kind of good will regardless of Chandler's future intentions.

This is what OLTL did when they got rid of Kish and the show's cancellation was announced the week of the one year anniversary of Kish's final episodes (I would like to think that it was karma, but, tbh, I think the cancellation was Frons' goal when that debacle went down. TIIC wanted all of their soaps gone and they thought they could do it once The Spew finally went up in the ratings. I think they were completely blindsided with how monumentally The Revulsion tanked.)

Anyway, they need to expand on what is "working", I use quotation marks because I know the gay storyline is FAR from perfect re: the disappearance of Sonny for most of the story, rather than backtrack.
OLTL kills KISH, a storyline that garners the show new viewership and huge popularity online and awards.

They bring back an iconic villain (Todd Manning) played by the original actor to great fanfare.

The show is canceled.

I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I do wonder if Kristen/ED is being brought back to wrap up the show.
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I'm thrilled with Sony for the Eileen Davidson news, but I don't think they treated her good at all. "Hey, you're on the #1 show and you make more money than you could ever make at DAYS, buuuuuuuut you're going to DAYS or you're not working for us."
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lysie


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Jun 26 2012, 07:24 PM
Jamey Giddens tweeted to me last week that Peter Reckell's exit was on Sony and not Corday so I'm still bitter about that. He said Sony has a company wide problem with treating vets like shit. I assume that means DAYS too. Using vets to promote a book about the history of the show only makes sense.
I've just never seen evidence of this when it comes to Days. I've thought they were more pro-vets for years. I think they had a lot to do with making the reset happen. They were the ones tweeting with fans. I know NBC doesn't care for vets, but someone with some power does.
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DiMeraFan67
Jun 26 2012, 07:24 PM
Jamey Giddens tweeted to me last week that Peter Reckell's exit was on Sony and not Corday so I'm still bitter about that. He said Sony has a company wide problem with treating vets like shit. I assume that means DAYS too. Using vets to promote a book about the history of the show only makes sense.
I never believed it was Corday's decision. Corday considers his actors, especially the vets, as family. He would never willingly get rid of Reckell, Alfonso, Hall or Hogestyn. The same could probably be said about McCay, Rogers, Reynolds and of course Taylor. When one of them are fired, I think it's obvious Corday was forced into it.
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