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Nelson Branco Soap Uncensored: Is Eileen Davidson back?
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 02:29 PM (30,982 Views)
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Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
That word sounds exactly like I'd sound if it were to actually happen. "Kristen and Rafe have sex?!?!" [Runs to toilet and begins heaving into the bowl:] "Kraaaafe! Kraaaaafe!!" [Wipes mouth.]
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bdboston
Jun 27 2012, 09:40 AM
The one thing that always bothered me was Stefano's reaction to EJ not being his biological son, and the "this changes everything" attitude. Kristen and Peter were adopted (i.e., not his biological kids), yet Stefano never viewed that as a negative.
This is why I don't think the Blakes would have been mentioned during that scene even if they hadn't been all but erased before. There was no way to mention them and pretend that the story made sense. EJ wouldn't even exist if Stefano couldn't accept non biological kids.
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Andre
Jun 27 2012, 09:44 AM
Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
That word sounds exactly like I'd sound if it were to actually happen. "Kristen and Rafe have sex?!?!" [Runs to toilet and begins heaving into the bowl:] "Kraaaafe! Kraaaaafe!!" [Wipes mouth.]
More like something you would associate with macaroni and cheese.

Which coincidentally is what I would throw at my tv screen if that pairing ever happened!
Edited by somersetfan, Jun 27 2012, 09:50 AM.
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"I like to be on top, Darling." - John Ross/Pamela

no confirmation yet? fuck!
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Did Stefano ever actually legally adopt Peter & Kristen? I always thought they were more like foster children or that he merely thought of them as children. Just like I never thought Mickey & Maggie ever actually legally adopted Melissa, but were instead appointed her legal guardians because Linda was "unfit" and didn't want her (and her legally adopted father Bob Anderson, hence Melissa's last name, had died). I know Melissa called Mickey & Maggie Mom & Dad (in fact, Mickey thought he was Melissa's father originally & Linda always kept trying to pass her off as his), but I never thought it was legal. Ditto Kristen/Peter. Also, Tony wasn't Stefano's bio-son,either (granted, that kept changing back and forth more often than the wind changes direction). IMO, the show missed a big boat by killing off Benji.
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Jun 27 2012, 08:54 AM
Please get her a henchman. I want Bart back! He was so funny, one of my favorite nothing characters ever. After a while I would love to see Rolf too. They're great characters. You made me nervous when you said she would be talking to herself. I don't need THAT JER plot point coming back. I don't need to see everyone talking to themselves and getting interrupted mid-secret. And I sure as Hell don't want to hear what people are thinking while they stare around corners every episode. I wonder how Tomlin is going to do with Kristen. I think Lorraine Broderick could do a great job with her. She seems to be a character that suits MarDar more than she will Tomlin, considering they are JER's disciples but they couldn't write anything interesting to save their lives. I can't put faith in Tomlin so they better be getting tons of input from Eileen Davidson.
MarDar may have been disciples of JER but they never showed it. They couldn't pace or structure a story and those were JER's greatest traits. That and they didn't seem interested in making Days feel like a soap. Remember how from day one they professed that they wanted to "unsoap the soap" and make it more "ripped from the headlines?" They certainly did that. The show became a boring, lifeless mess. They took all the melodrama that soaps are known for out of the show. It got better once De Cazote came on as co-EP but it was still lacking. Soaps need to have some camp and an over the top feel to them, especially a show like Days which has always been known for that. Tomlin and Whitesell can bring that back and will. They showed that when they were able to put some of their stamp on the show in 2009 and Fall 2010. They are much better suited for writing Kristen than MarDar or even Broderick. Broderick is great but I have a feeling she would try to soften Kristen a bit too much in an effort to do more with her while Tomlin and Whitesell will likely just want to write her as a vixen aka total bitch. They've always done well writing for characters like Kristen wherever they've written so I have faith in them. People keep citing what Tomlin and Whitesell did at Days from 2009-2011 but you have to remember that they did not have total control. Yes, there were periods where they got more power and definitely had enough influence to make the show better but Higley was still there, as was Corday. They still got some input and that is plenty to keep Tomlin and Whitesell from making the show truly theirs. Even with interference, I still expect to see a much more cohesive show and we will definitely get to see more of their classic trademarks that they bring with them. The show will be more campy and if anyone can write this show similarly to the 90's, it's these two. They couldn't go all the way in 2009 but they showed shades of 90's style writing that year. The worst of that period (early-mid 2010, 2011) was when Higley clearly had all the control. She brought us Nighttime Hope, Chloe as a hooker, Rafe II, Taylor, etc. Sure, they may bring a return of Daniel/Jennifer and Sami/Rafe (who Tomlin clearly loves but I think other parties involved do too) but not everything is truly theirs either. Corday seemed to like Daniel and Jennifer and we know NBC and Sony are involved too. While Tomlin and Whitesell will undoubtedly get more of their vision across being head writers this time, it's clear they still will have to cave in to others. We know how involved NBC and Sony seem to be and then there is Corday, who is always a factor.

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Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
It's like my worst nightmare....in print.
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bdboston
Jun 27 2012, 09:40 AM
The one thing that always bothered me was Stefano's reaction to EJ not being his biological son, and the "this changes everything" attitude. Kristen and Peter were adopted (i.e., not his biological kids), yet Stefano never viewed that as a negative.
The only way the EJ thing makes sense to me is if Stefano found out someone like John was actually EJ's father. If he is EJ's father though, they'll have to undo Santeen. Other than John....perhaps Victor? But that's stretching it and makes no sense.
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SoapGal1
Jun 27 2012, 10:25 AM
Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
It's like my worst nightmare....in print.
Ironically, it sounds a lot like "queef".
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Jun 27 2012, 10:25 AM
Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
It's like my worst nightmare....in print.
Even worse than Krafe: Kraniel or Danstin. :puke:
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Matt
Jun 27 2012, 10:28 AM
SoapGal1
Jun 27 2012, 10:25 AM
Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
It's like my worst nightmare....in print.
Ironically, it sounds a lot like "queef".
Or crap.

Krafe-a bunch of queefy crap.

And a new tagline is born.
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Poker Face
Jun 27 2012, 09:53 AM
no confirmation yet? fuck!
Matt Ashford confirmed her return in his interview with DR.
Edited by Mitchapalooza, Jun 27 2012, 10:51 AM.
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DrewHamilton
Jun 26 2012, 07:37 PM
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Jun 26 2012, 07:22 PM
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Jun 26 2012, 07:20 PM
I can't imagine Kristen's return giving John and Marlena a frontburner storyline. We said the same thing about Stefano returning in 2007 and we saw what happened there. Kristen's return will probably be a lot about EJ, more than anything else.
I think it will involve John and Marlena a lot, too, but yeah..this will also contribute to the continuing Days of EJ's WishyWashy Life.
Oh, I think John and Marlena will be used, but it won't be their story with Kristen. Since they're Sami's parents, it ties them to EJ and whatever Kristen will be brought back to do in support of the character, which will allow them to interact. But the days of a Marlena/John/Kristen storyline are far behind us, I'm afraid.
I agree. I doubt J&M will actually be used much by Tomsell at all.
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parisa
Jun 26 2012, 09:36 PM
I have been waiting for this day since April 1998. Halle-freakin-lujah!!

I want Marlena to be heavily involved - these two were made for each other. Imagine the look on Marlena's face when Kristen walks into the room!!!

And please keep ED away from AS, unless Sister Mary is giving her another slap.
They were fantastic in scenes... but honestly, I don't believe DAYS will do this justice. They won't use the rich, complex history. They won't let John & Marlena be really angry and show just how much they hate Kristen, justifiably so, and how much she hates J&M for ruining her life. You can bring EJ into it to the degree that Kristen still blames J&M for taking him away from her, and wants them ruined for doing it.

But they can't do a redux without destroying John, Marlena or even Kristen. Don't do a stupid triangle, this show has enough stupid "almost" couples. John/Kristen weren't popular in the 90s, it wouldn't be now, esp considering since ED left, J&M have become beyond triangles to degree of having three seriously ridiculously attempts thrown their way that didn't work. Kristen can't and shouldn't still be delusional in the same way. Delusional in that she blames Stefano for not finding her, Marlena for her losing John, John for her losing EJ. But not still beliving that John would love her "if just"... This show needs a freaking villain, let her be it. Let good (J&M) fight evil (Kristen).

The audience that reads magazines and boards WILL tune in because John/Marlena vs Kristen was epic. I'm just afraid this regime won't do it justice. The actors, I don't doubt will bring it, but the writers - don't trust them at all. They'll probably make it some weird and twisted EJ/Kristen/Sami triangle. Romantic and villainous.
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blueskies
Jun 27 2012, 10:27 AM
bdboston
Jun 27 2012, 09:40 AM
The one thing that always bothered me was Stefano's reaction to EJ not being his biological son, and the "this changes everything" attitude. Kristen and Peter were adopted (i.e., not his biological kids), yet Stefano never viewed that as a negative.
The only way the EJ thing makes sense to me is if Stefano found out someone like John was actually EJ's father. If he is EJ's father though, they'll have to undo Santeen. Other than John....perhaps Victor? But that's stretching it and makes no sense.
Hell, I'll buy that re-write. An opportunity for Victor Kiriakis to be EVIL again? And have DiMeras vs Kiriakises with John, Marlena, Bo and Hope caught in the middle?
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blueskies
Jun 27 2012, 10:27 AM
bdboston
Jun 27 2012, 09:40 AM
The one thing that always bothered me was Stefano's reaction to EJ not being his biological son, and the "this changes everything" attitude. Kristen and Peter were adopted (i.e., not his biological kids), yet Stefano never viewed that as a negative.
The only way the EJ thing makes sense to me is if Stefano found out someone like John was actually EJ's father. If he is EJ's father though, they'll have to undo Santeen. Other than John....perhaps Victor? But that's stretching it and makes no sense.
Actually, the Victor story could be fairly easily explained. We know EJ is the result of artificial insemination and we know Victor made a deposit when he and Kate wanted kids. Maybe he and Stefano used the same lab and there was a mix up.

IMO, Stefano would have been delighted to find out he'd raised John's child.
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blueskies
Jun 27 2012, 10:29 AM
SoapGal1
Jun 27 2012, 10:25 AM
Matt
Jun 27 2012, 07:35 AM
Krafe
It's like my worst nightmare....in print.
Even worse than Krafe: Kraniel or Danstin. :puke:
I just hope that Kristen remains completely healthy. If she gets even a hangnail, I'm going to worry that she'll end up with Daniel as her doctor! And on this show, being Daniel's female patient pretty much equates with being Daniel's latest sex partner! :puke:

However, I would love it if Kristen were the one woman who smacked Daniel senseless if he tried to molest her during an exam! Kick the ass of the pervy doctor, Kristen! Kick his ass hard! :cheer:
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^ My face watching DAYS

I am hoping now that Joe M is for sure coming back.

Did we ever hear if he is for sure? Didn't he say he was already back in the interview with SOD?
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Mitchapalooza
Jun 27 2012, 01:51 PM
I am hoping now that Joe M is for sure coming back.

Did we ever hear if he is for sure? Didn't he say he was already back in the interview with SOD?
This is from the SOD article:

As for now, Mascolo told SOD, “For all intent and purposes, Stefano is dead.” But sources are reporting that he is already included in future story plans!
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Mitchapalooza
Jun 27 2012, 10:51 AM
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Jun 27 2012, 09:53 AM
no confirmation yet? fuck!
Matt Ashford confirmed her return in his interview with DR.
HE DID???? ok thank you!!!!! :flipoff:
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